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Posted by Dwaggy on 01-09-2003 01:51 PM:

i'm gonna be the first to reply, that will make me cool...

Right?

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Posted by -=(M on 01-09-2003 01:54 PM:

lol yeah!

is there anywhere a screenshot?

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Posted by Som12H8 on 01-09-2003 02:16 PM:

Watched the sample, they should have split it to 2 discs...
8/8/10.


Posted by sp00ky on 01-09-2003 02:19 PM:

sure it will!

/me is no. 2 :P

the nfo looks weird.
i wonder if there'll be any way to get this baby!?

i want the dd5.1


//spooky


Posted by dvdude on 01-09-2003 02:25 PM:

svcd re-encode?..


Posted by Unset on 01-09-2003 02:28 PM:

who hoo no.3
great release guys


Posted by D-X on 01-09-2003 02:38 PM:

hmmm

The rumour says there's a repack on its way

...it's nice that this finally came, but I think it's a shame that they have made it a one disc because they will have to compress the movie a lot to fit 3 hours + to a DVD-R


Posted by Lord_Sauron on 01-09-2003 03:07 PM:

Are they being sarcastic talking about the 'menu' and extras?

If this is 'kosher'...good bless America!


Posted by TitoMcFlores on 01-09-2003 03:27 PM:

an independent dvdr rls eh..

quote from nfo:
"Menu, and everything else is there!"

since when is there a menu on a dvd screener.. (if there is then hey cool more props but.. i dunno haha)

ill leech it saves me time convertin' this svcd to dvd

-Tito


Posted by garagekru on 01-09-2003 03:28 PM:

is there 4 files missing on every1's sites??????


Posted by perra_himself on 01-09-2003 03:52 PM:

Cool blurry

the sample looks a little bit blurry right?


Posted by Sonikku on 01-09-2003 04:07 PM:

My only question:

Does the video look at least as good as the SVCD? If so then what's the problem? I would have no complaints for SVCD picture quality with the 5.1 sound! :P


Posted by jeffreii on 01-09-2003 04:34 PM:

sample is definetely nothing great....i wonder if the audio is actually 5.1....the fact remains, that the svcd was 3 gigs, and this dvd cannot be much better than the svcd....it really should be 2 discs and i'm confident another group will release a proper, 2 disc of this movie- it's what it deserves....

the sample is definetely a bit blurry- it IS the best release thus far for DVDr, but i think i'll wait this one out


Posted by dotmusik on 01-09-2003 04:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Som12H8
Watched the sample, they should have split it to 2 discs...
8/8/10.



Ummmm the NFO says its 93x50mb, so I'm guessing thats 1 DVD, not 1 CD?? In which case y would u need more than 1 DVD? 2 DVDs would be a bit excessive.

And if it is 1 CD wtf does it say 93x50mb??


Posted by dotmusik on 01-09-2003 04:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Som12H8
Watched the sample, they should have split it to 2 discs...
8/8/10.



Itsn't a DVD? Not CD, hence 93x50mb in the NFO?


Posted by Som12H8 on 01-09-2003 04:52 PM:

Nuke, not regionfree...
And the video q is not much better than SVCD. 4.7 Gb - 5.1 audio = 4 Gb video. SVCD = 3.2 Gb - audio = not much difference...


Posted by jeffreii on 01-09-2003 04:57 PM:

come on now, all previous lotr releases have been 2 dvds. also, the svcd is 4 cds....it clearly needs a 2 dvd release- i don't think there's any question in the matter...you can see the grainy quality of this release, it's not gonna get any better without a second disc- and i wouldn't have anything less


Posted by amnesiahouse on 01-09-2003 05:18 PM:

You moaning, grumpy n00bs. All this time everyones been bitching on about the lack of a dvdr release and as soon as one comes along its nothing but moan, moan, moan. If you arent doing the release yourself then stfu.

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Posted by Lord_Sauron on 01-09-2003 05:32 PM:

Split it? WHy?

Anybody have idea what they mean by 'extras' on this yet?

Split into 2 DVD's?

That kinda defeats the purpose of releasing this on DVD-R, if it looks as good or even a teeny tiny bit better than the SVCD it's golden to me...


Posted by Arthur on 01-09-2003 05:43 PM:

The Question is what is it Sourced from ?

If its a REAL SCREENER what media was it sourced from, flipping VHS tape!! lol

People loose track of the meanings of
SCREENER
CAM
TS
Etc Etc...

the same Flick Converted From CAM to TS to SVCD to DVD then back to VCD on and on and on an on.
Oh and not forgetting the Smart alik who makes a 1 cd DVIX.
Flipping eck, its getting like news groupes all over the place.


ive seen CAM's on dvd ??? WTF
that Insults the verry name DVD,
With 5.1 Dts !!!
5.1 my ass,
Its not to hard to Aurthor a dvd master and spred the Mono
sound to all 6 channels then WAY HAY the 5.1 little blue
light comes on, on my Amp.
is it 5.1? like Feck it is.

Rant over for now,

Ive not Finished the Download on this yet so i will reserve my comments
on this releace for now. But From the Reports im getting
This Sounds NOT like a REAL Screener,

Screener ?
Think....
007 Die another Day
Harry Potter 2

you follow ?


Posted by XFACTOR on 01-09-2003 06:40 PM:

2 cds is not necessary or rather dvds is not necessary. if u remember the first LOTR was dvd screener was released on 1cd and that was fine, excellent quality. since it is a dvd screener, and they do screen from dvds as well. there shouldn't be any menus, extras, etc. the first movie is just as long and didn't need 2cds for that screener. so i don't think 2 is necessary for this one. even the retail of LOTR was 1 cd with animated menus and audio. it just needs to be re-encoded.


Posted by Jurai on 01-09-2003 07:33 PM:

gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by jeffreii
come on now, all previous lotr releases have been 2 dvds. also, the svcd is 4 cds....it clearly needs a 2 dvd release- i don't think there's any question in the matter...you can see the grainy quality of this release, it's not gonna get any better without a second disc- and i wouldn't have anything less


retail rip of fellowship was 1 dvd, but plz, STFU FUCKIN MORON


Posted by perra_himself on 01-09-2003 07:37 PM:

hi ! i am a flamer and I have no life, i have no friends so I like to sit here in front of my comp and get mad .


Posted by iGotLaid_off on 01-09-2003 08:12 PM:

based on lotr2.dvdr.sample.vob

9/8/? (yeah i still haven't seen it)

Video bitrate ranges from 2200-4200Mbps avg about 3300Mbps still much better than any rls so far.

DD5.1 @448Kbps may not be true DD. It seems as though the same sound is comming out all the speakers and i'm not hearing anything out of the center channle (maybe its just me)

never the less the Convenience of 1 dvd!

I'm gonna go for this rls then wait a while till the retail.


Posted by puppydg68 on 01-09-2003 08:36 PM:

I think a 2 DVD release for this would be extremely good. 3 hours is quite a lot to compress down, having the CCE bitrate at less than 3 and with all the action in this movie, the compression would be very noticible. AC3 is great and what the SVCD version is missing.. Someone has the DVD-9 original rip somewhere, it would be mint if it was released, then we have the choice to downsample or split.


Posted by goSu on 01-09-2003 08:58 PM:

this release just screams reencode, first of normalized sound, i've yet to see a dvdr rls play ac3 sound at a normal volume...where's a real group's release when you want one? ;p


Posted by dotmusik on 01-09-2003 09:07 PM:

Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai


retail rip of fellowship was 1 dvd, but plz, STFU FUCKIN MORON



I totally agree with u mate. They are all getting confused with a CD and DVD! LMAO!

I thought I had tell some of you guys, a DVD is BIGGER than a CD, and bigger than 4 CDs for that matter. Spliting it to 2 DVDs would be completely pointless!


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-09-2003 09:49 PM:

Red face Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai


retail rip of fellowship was 1 dvd, but plz, STFU FUCKIN MORON




THANK YOU! Some of these guys are idiots! Since we have you seen 2 DVD-R packs of movies? He's a dumbass. He is thinking SVCD, not DVD-R! We don't need two f*cking DVD-Rs, as that defeats the purpose!

Thank you for pointing this out.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-09-2003 09:51 PM:

Red face

quote:
Originally posted by jeffreii
come on now, all previous lotr releases have been 2 dvds. also, the svcd is 4 cds....it clearly needs a 2 dvd release- i don't think there's any question in the matter...you can see the grainy quality of this release, it's not gonna get any better without a second disc- and i wouldn't have anything less


newbie is right -- DVD-R section idiot - not SVCD. Most DVD-R releases are ONE DISC!!! Hint, 4.7GB, not 700MB CD-Rs!

wake the fuck up!


Posted by m3ta on 01-09-2003 10:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dotmusik


Ummmm the NFO says its 93x50mb, so I'm guessing thats 1 DVD, not 1 CD?? In which case y would u need more than 1 DVD? 2 DVDs would be a bit excessive.

And if it is 1 CD wtf does it say 93x50mb??



he didnt say "CD", he said "DISC". doh. and he was correct. 1 dvd=1 disc

:P

and no, 2 dvcds WOULDNT be excessive for a 3hr movie


Posted by m3ta on 01-09-2003 10:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by XFACTOR
2 cds is not necessary or rather dvds is not necessary. if u remember the first LOTR was dvd screener was released on 1cd and that was fine, excellent quality. since it is a dvd screener, and they do screen from dvds as well. there shouldn't be any menus, extras, etc. the first movie is just as long and didn't need 2cds for that screener. so i don't think 2 is necessary for this one. even the retail of LOTR was 1 cd with animated menus and audio. it just needs to be re-encoded.


excellent quality on 1 cd?

better quit those drugs ure on


Posted by m3ta on 01-09-2003 10:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by goSu
this release just screams reencode, first of normalized sound, i've yet to see a dvdr rls play ac3 sound at a normal volume...where's a real group's release when you want one? ;p



if it IS reencode, its stupid. to put svcd on dvdr one just has to patch the svcd headers, reauthor and repatch. but before someone asks "how how", the answer is RTFM.


Posted by tHaCuBe on 01-09-2003 10:12 PM:

of course the retail was 1 dvd.....see how big it was. probably 7gb+ dvd+rs are only 4.7, retail can be as big as 10gb


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-09-2003 11:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by m3ta


excellent quality on 1 cd?

better quit those drugs ure on



Are you on CRACK? Do half you knitwits realize you are in the DVD-R section, where 1 disc is common place? One DVD-R disc holds 4.7GB, the size of SEVERAL CDs. We are talking DVD-R, not CD!!!! WAKE the FUCK UP!


Posted by hoozdapimp on 01-09-2003 11:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by m3ta



if it IS reencode, its stupid. to put svcd on dvdr one just has to patch the svcd headers, reauthor and repatch. but before someone asks "how how", the answer is RTFM.



not if you want the video to play on all dvd players..my pioneer as well as my other friends pioneer will not play with the patched headers...well it plays it but only half the screener (the dvd player doesn't stretch the 480 properly to 720).


Posted by m3ta on 01-09-2003 11:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides


Are you on CRACK? Do half you knitwits realize you are in the DVD-R section, where 1 disc is common place? One DVD-R disc holds 4.7GB, the size of SEVERAL CDs. We are talking DVD-R, not CD!!!! WAKE the FUCK UP!



no, u wake the fuck up. a 3hr dvd (on 1 disc) is crap. around 2800 bitrate. as was PROVEN, lotr first retail was ... CRAP. just for the stupid masses like you (that is prolly a vcd freak lol) pay and enjoy.

a dvdr at that bitrate has about 60% of the REAL capabilities. if the dvdr "scene" (hate that word actually) was to be based on movies at 2800-3000 bitrate, fuck it, better buy the retail. or be a jackass and ejoy TS's.


Posted by perra_himself on 01-09-2003 11:28 PM:

hmmm

Lord.Of.The.Rings.Two.Towers.Region1.Fix.PPF.OWLiS .

hmmm =)


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-09-2003 11:49 PM:

Lightbulb

quote:
Originally posted by hoozdapimp


not if you want the video to play on all dvd players..my pioneer as well as my other friends pioneer will not play with the patched headers...well it plays it but only half the screener (the dvd player doesn't stretch the 480 properly to 720).



I have a Pioneer too, and I know about this, but I also have a Samsung and Apex that correct the rez.

What an encoder can do is run the SVCD mpegs through TMPGE and redo the rez to the appropriate size. It should fix the problem with the pioneer players.


Posted by puppydg68 on 01-09-2003 11:49 PM:

Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides



THANK YOU! Some of these guys are idiots! Since we have you seen 2 DVD-R packs of movies? He's a dumbass. He is thinking SVCD, not DVD-R! We don't need two f*cking DVD-Rs, as that defeats the purpose!

Thank you for pointing this out.



If you looked in a.b.dvd you would see many 2 disc rips including one of Raiders of the Lost ark - because they didn't want to sacrifice the quality of the LD conversion.. Aliens is also being posted as DVD-9 using the doom9.org Splitting across 2 DVDs. There is a program called dvdxcopy.com which retains the original quality across 2 DVDs. Most commercial DVD's are DVD-9 9 Gigs. On a 3 hour movie the bitrate would have to be so low to fit that much on a 4 gig disc. So Across 2 dvd's would give you commerical quality - ie. the same QUALITY as the original DVD-9 that it was ripped from.

It would be pointless to try to upconvert the SVCD release to DVD, BUT what we are talking about is having the original DVD-9 released across 2 DVD's. ZERO quality loss. at $2/DVD to be able to enjoy Two Towers as it is in the theatres I think is worth it, and I'm sure any of the DVDR Advocates would agree. Flame me if you want, but the reason this DVD isn't as crisp is because whoever did the encode had to sacrifice the video quality to put it on a single DVD. It still remains to be seen if this is simply the SVCD's upconverted or the original DVD-9 downconverted.


Posted by BitchAss on 01-10-2003 12:00 AM:

What you people have to remember is:

1) The DVD-R version of this is Anamorphic (Widescreen TV enhanced), so unlike the SVCD we get a better picture cause no zoom is needed.

2) Its Dolby Digtal 5.1 sound (the svcd aint obviously)

really you are getting a better picture in some ways. However the downcoding is highly compressed and with the extra resolution dvd has over SVCD you'll needed the extra space for that resolution. the detail lever in terms of MPEG in coding is identical to the SVCD but because you have more lines of resolution you get a bettter picture overall.

Anyway you people really should stop moaning, these DVD screeners prob wont be around after march april, so you might wanna appeciate them while you can!


Posted by SAT4N on 01-10-2003 12:24 AM:

Being that this is not a retail dvd, maybe the source was only 1 disc, therefore no way to make it 2 discs for the better quality. Plus, arent all of these dvd screeners single layer, so then no need to encode either. Just my two cents.


Posted by Lord_Sauron on 01-10-2003 12:33 AM:

Wow...I thought the pages of people talking about whether the sound of the SVCD release had a 'hiss' was pointless...

There is NO POINT TO A 2 DVD RELEASE OF THIS....PERIOD...

Why?

It's a SCREENER....not RETAIL, there are no trailers, specials, deleted scenes, etc.

The only point to this release is for improved sound and ONE disc, rather than the 4 cds...


On a side note, anyone 'view' this yet? The nfo. had a line about a menu & extras...what did that mean? Subtitles would be the only thing I could think of...that WAS a mistake in the nfo. wasn't it?


Posted by neo_tokyo on 01-10-2003 12:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by tHaCuBe
of course the retail was 1 dvd.....see how big it was. probably 7gb+ dvd+rs are only 4.7, retail can be as big as 10gb


lol
10gb?! why not 20??


[edited]


Posted by SilentRAGE on 01-10-2003 01:02 AM:

I agree, there is no need for a 2 dvd version of this, hell downsample it and dont complain, there are no features, no one complains when harry potter dvd-r is downsampled, or all these other dvd-r dvd screeners, but god for bid, it's lord of the rings, now we need to change the scene rules for one god damn movie, I dont think so...as for the comment about iot being animorphic, I dont think so, I have a widescreen tv and will burn this and see if it its, most likely it isnt animorphic. Now if this is a svcd re-encode, there is need for a re-rip, but if this comes from the dvd-9 dvdscr and is simply downsampled, it's fine, quit complaining, watch the movie.


Posted by DaGamePimp on 01-10-2003 01:17 AM:

Wink

there most certainly is a need for a 2 DVD-r release for those that want the same Quality as the original 3 hour DVD [ which is on a DVD9 ] . There is no way to preserve the Quality with only a single DVD-r version [ it is not possible ] . For those that decide to flame this [ you do not understand encoding , read some and then you might understand ] . Now while I am sure the majority will want a single dvd-r release [ as was done ] this will not give you the full video quality of the actual dvd screener . Those of you watching on a sdtv will say there is no difference , well you are wrong as there most certainly is but you need to have the ability to display it [ Anamorphic progressive scan is where it's at for DVD - until HD-DVD ] .
--- DGP ---


Posted by neo_tokyo on 01-10-2003 01:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by -=(MîSt@ X)=-
lol yeah!

is there anywhere a screenshot?




yes here three


http://devil-inside.virtualave.net/ttwrdvd.jpg
http://devil-inside.virtualave.net/ttwrdvd1.jpg
http://devil-inside.virtualave.net/ttwrdvd2.jpg


Posted by SilentRAGE on 01-10-2003 01:41 AM:

ok i'll agree with you there, no loss of quality for widescreen hdtv people, like me, but since when is this release call for the need to do this on 2 dvd-rs, harry potter was a huge movie, no complaints there. Anyway I viewed the sample, its looks good, I'd admit it's downsampled a ton, so why doesnt someone do a 2 dvd-r internal and then just leave the single dvd one out. The fact of the matter is one dvd or 2 dvd, you people are lucky there even is dvd screeners in the first place, if you havent watched it in the theater be glad you can even watch this at home, when the majority of people will wait months and months for a retail dvd. Now I do have fast internet, but for ppl who aren't really fast, is another 4.5 gig really worth it for the few ppl who have hdtv widescreen tv's.


Posted by champion on 01-10-2003 01:48 AM:

is it contains scene selections, menus etc. ?


Posted by Arthur on 01-10-2003 03:01 AM:

How many of you Got PM's asking

"Where Can i Download This film" & "where do you download your stuff from please?"


geeez umm let me see, oh yer kazaa.c*m good luck


Posted by fletch on 01-10-2003 03:29 AM:

If the original screener was a DVD9, then there is deffinately a demand for 2 DVDR release without re-encoding.

A growing number of people these days have home theater setups and widescreen tvs.. If the original screener is anamorphic, I hope any release keeps it as such..

The people complaining about a 2 DVDR release obviously do not know any better or how good it COULD look if it is released untouched...

Cheers

Fletch

:: i agree . ~2800kbit for an anamorphic rls in a hires format is just too low. 2xDVD would mean changing the disc 90mins in, which is not a problem. and if you dont like the filesize, well.. dvdr isn't for you then -pHo


Posted by zepperdude on 01-10-2003 05:59 AM:

hmm ...

This is going to sound like a newbie question - but what IRC channels carry DVDR releases. I can always find the SVCD releases on MYD***LOADER or P***ETNEWS - but they never seem to list the DVDR releases.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 06:31 AM:

Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by puppydg68


If you looked in a.b.dvd you would see many 2 disc rips including one of Raiders of the Lost ark - because they didn't want to sacrifice the quality of the LD conversion.. Aliens is also being posted as DVD-9 using the doom9.org Splitting across 2 DVDs. There is a program called dvdxcopy.com which retains the original quality across 2 DVDs. Most commercial DVD's are DVD-9 9 Gigs. On a 3 hour movie the bitrate would have to be so low to fit that much on a 4 gig disc. So Across 2 dvd's would give you commerical quality - ie. the same QUALITY as the original DVD-9 that it was ripped from.

It would be pointless to try to upconvert the SVCD release to DVD, BUT what we are talking about is having the original DVD-9 released across 2 DVD's. ZERO quality loss. at $2/DVD to be able to enjoy Two Towers as it is in the theatres I think is worth it, and I'm sure any of the DVDR Advocates would agree. Flame me if you want, but the reason this DVD isn't as crisp is because whoever did the encode had to sacrifice the video quality to put it on a single DVD. It still remains to be seen if this is simply the SVCD's upconverted or the original DVD-9 downconverted.





You really a dumbfuck aren't you? We are not talking about UPGRADING a SVCD to DVD-R, but using the DVD SCR to make t he DVD-R, the same way the SVCD was made. Do you NOT get t his? No one is going from SVCD to DVD-R if the DVD SCR is available to the rls groups. Most people with "common sense" are not saying what is available by some punk ass newsgroups.

Look at the listing here!!!! Or isonews.com, do you see many 2 disc DVD-Rs? NO! Hello NO! ...and lot of them look fantastic, with many not even needing to be downsampled (at all) once stripped of the bullshit extras.

Learn something you noob!!!


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 06:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by m3ta


no, u wake the fuck up. a 3hr dvd (on 1 disc) is crap. around 2800 bitrate. as was PROVEN, lotr first retail was ... CRAP. just for the stupid masses like you (that is prolly a vcd freak lol) pay and enjoy.

a dvdr at that bitrate has about 60% of the REAL capabilities. if the dvdr "scene" (hate that word actually) was to be based on movies at 2800-3000 bitrate, fuck it, better buy the retail. or be a jackass and ejoy TS's.



LOTR Retail and first DVD-R rip was not crap! Your dumb ass probably never had it, going by hearsay.

Second, if you thought it was CRAP , WTF are you doing here? On the net downloading and griping about bootlegs???? GO TO THE FUCKING STORE THEN!!!


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 06:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by DaGamePimp
there most certainly is a need for a 2 DVD-r release for those that want the same Quality as the original 3 hour DVD [ which is on a DVD9 ] . There is no way to preserve the Quality with only a single DVD-r version [ it is not possible ] . For those that decide to flame this [ you do not understand encoding , read some and then you might understand ] . Now while I am sure the majority will want a single dvd-r release [ as was done ] this will not give you the full video quality of the actual dvd screener . Those of you watching on a sdtv will say there is no difference , well you are wrong as there most certainly is but you need to have the ability to display it [ Anamorphic progressive scan is where it's at for DVD - until HD-DVD ] .
--- DGP ---



I can't believe this shit - Now people want 2 disc DVD-Rs because of LOTR? GEEZE! Then do this, RIP YOURSELF, or WAIT and GO BUY IT!!!!


Posted by ScabbyDoo on 01-10-2003 09:51 AM:

while you are all complaining and whining remember this.

it's free...


Posted by perra_himself on 01-10-2003 09:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ScabbyDoo
while you are all complaining and whining remember this.

it's free...




good point dude =))


Posted by Hest on 01-10-2003 11:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by neo_tokyo


lol
10gb?! why not 20??


[edited]



learn the difference between dvd5 and 9....


Posted by vorbis on 01-10-2003 12:17 PM:

I'd have to concur, these are bootlegs. Some people won't be happy until the retail comes out. The quality of this release is more than sufficient. What more do you want? Be grateful that its here at all.


Posted by amnesiahouse on 01-10-2003 02:40 PM:

Will someone that has actually burnt and watched this movie please leave a comment as I doubt this moaning bunch have. Also has anyone used the patch ok?

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Posted by Arthur on 01-10-2003 02:55 PM:

Ok ive Burnt it and its fine

Something About my vertion of Winrar, gave me an error in each and every fecking rar.
Not CRC errors some other type of error, not a big worry as
ive had this before with ps2 (prolly just my Crap pc)
Anyway on with the post..

The Sfv check sayed all rars are 100% fine
So i Unrar but in my case i tick "keep Borken Files"

now i have the .iso So i patch it with the Region fix (thanks dude who made it for us)

Then Burn the .ISO to a good old Traxdata, Slap it in my Stand-Alone dvd player and it boots

NOT into a Menu as was said in the nfo, But into a Warning Msg
the Kind of Msg you would expext on a Propper Screener About how we are not allowed to copy or rent etc etc.

There are about 5 or 6 chapters and No chapter menu,
( Like i said theres No menus what so ever.)

Sound is Propper 5.1 (center speaker is fine and works here)
no other sound tracks that i could find and no subs

Picture, Well im no expert but the Picture looks Just as good
as the Harry potter 2 and 007 screeners.

What can i say,, Big Thanks to the guys who brought it to us all for Free THanks


Posted by neo_tokyo on 01-10-2003 03:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hest


learn the difference between dvd5 and 9....



lol beside saying that why don't you try to it to me?
as my little little and flawed brain understood a dvd5 dvd was 4.5gb and a dvd9 couldn't be over 9gb..
which in fact wa wrong as the dvd5 is 4.7gb. and the dvd9 only 8.5 acording to this

quote:

DVD-5 | DVD-9 | DVD-10
4.7 GB | 8.5 GB | 9.4 GB
http://www.amtechdisc.com/dvdspecs.htm



i still wonder if there is 10gb dvd yet...
thnaks for underligning my dumbness...


Posted by tsarrack on 01-10-2003 03:32 PM:

From viewing the sample, it looks pretty good to me.....good enough until a retail is available.

I'm just curious, has anyone watched the whole thing? Does it have menus like the nfo says?


Posted by Gville on 01-10-2003 04:05 PM:

You people need to get a fucking clue. You have a near DVD QUALITY copy of one of the most anticipated and watched movies ever and its only been in theatres for THREE WEEKS!!! Yet you still bitch about the quality. It's free!!! Why not write a letter to New Line Cinema explaining to them that you need a copy of the original DVD9 screener because you just can't watch the downsampled one, it's not good enough for you....


Posted by EvilBoB on 01-10-2003 04:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by neo_tokyo

pop-quiz...
can you tell me the name of a dvd movie has 10gb of data?.



Answer : Lord Of The Rings : The Fellowship of the Ring - Extended version
Comes on two DVD9's


Posted by puppydg68 on 01-10-2003 04:29 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides




You really a dumbfuck aren't you? We are not talking about UPGRADING a SVCD to DVD-R, but using the DVD SCR to make t he DVD-R, the same way the SVCD was made. Do you NOT get t his? No one is going from SVCD to DVD-R if the DVD SCR is available to the rls groups. Most people with "common sense" are not saying what is available by some punk ass newsgroups.

Look at the listing here!!!! Or isonews.com, do you see many 2 disc DVD-Rs? NO! Hello NO! ...and lot of them look fantastic, with many not even needing to be downsampled (at all) once stripped of the bullshit extras.

Learn something you noob!!!


You know what you guys are suck arrogant idiots.. If you had read the post properly it you would know that WE are NOT talking about upconverting SVCD, the whole point is the keep the original quality of the DVD-9 that all of these were made from.. AT the point of posting no-one could confirm that this was anamorphic, and confirm that the aC3 was real (some didn't have center or sub).. So The statement of it still remains to be seen if it was upconverted OR downconverted was there. Don't flame people for nothing, I gave very good references and locations of DVD-9 releases on the net. As well as a website with software to split your DVD-9s to 2 DVD-5's. So just because ISOnews and group releases don't list it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.. Go yourself and you can see both raiders of the lost ark and aliens are being posted DVD-9 right now. And for most cases, DVD-9 rips are only around 5-6GB for the movie. This is a DVDR group I would have figured the people participating know a little about DVDR..

Cheers to the release, it's a great release.. if nothing better come so be it. But I know there are many others here who would be very happy to see a DVD-9 release of this.. Those would wouldn't be happy, don't download, and keeps kind of useless to compain about something higher quality being released doesn't it?


Posted by TroLL417 on 01-10-2003 04:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ScabbyDoo
while you are all complaining and whining remember this.

it's free...





agreeded FREEEEEEEE and its a good release no reson to bitch at all


Posted by JayTray on 01-10-2003 05:15 PM:

No Menus and 5 chapters

No, there are no menus and only 5 chapters. Quality is not blurry and audio says 5.1 Dolby Digital. Looks good to me. 2 DVDs would be a total waste for a DVD Screener. I doubt that the actual Screener itself was 2 DVDs, so quit bitching all you maggots who haven't even d/l'd the image file yet. Download the SVCD if your so worried about wasting bandwidth or it being a recode from SVCD, or wait for the Retail DVD to come out.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 05:44 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by puppydg68

You know what you guys are suck arrogant idiots.. If you had read the post properly it you would know that WE are NOT talking about upconverting SVCD, the whole point is the keep the original quality of the DVD-9 that all of these were made from.. AT the point of posting no-one could confirm that this was anamorphic, and confirm that the aC3 was real (some didn't have center or sub).. So The statement of it still remains to be seen if it was upconverted OR downconverted was there. Don't flame people for nothing, I gave very good references and locations of DVD-9 releases on the net. As well as a website with software to split your DVD-9s to 2 DVD-5's. So just because ISOnews and group releases don't list it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.. Go yourself and you can see both raiders of the lost ark and aliens are being posted DVD-9 right now. And for most cases, DVD-9 rips are only around 5-6GB for the movie. This is a DVDR group I would have figured the people participating know a little about DVDR..

Cheers to the release, it's a great release.. if nothing better come so be it. But I know there are many others here who would be very happy to see a DVD-9 release of this.. Those would wouldn't be happy, don't download, and keeps kind of useless to compain about something higher quality being released doesn't it?



GET THIS: NO ONE IS GOING TO DO A 2 DISC DVD-R OF IT, so STOP CRYING AND WHINING FOR ONE!!!

The single-disc DVD-R (DVD-5) will DO JUST FINE until the RETAIL - live with it!!! It is a BOOTLEG, for christ's sake!!!

Now you guys want perfect quality from a bootleg? GET FUCKING REAL!!!


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 05:47 PM:

Talking Re: No Menus and 5 chapters

quote:
Originally posted by JayTray
No, there are no menus and only 5 chapters. Quality is not blurry and audio says 5.1 Dolby Digital. Looks good to me. 2 DVDs would be a total waste for a DVD Screener. I doubt that the actual Screener itself was 2 DVDs, so quit bitching all you maggots who haven't even d/l'd the image file yet. Download the SVCD if your so worried about wasting bandwidth or it being a recode from SVCD, or wait for the Retail DVD to come out.


Agreed!!! Damn noobs whining about a 2 Disc DVD-R to maintain perfect quality on a bootleg??? Is that a JOKE?

Grabbed it, didn't patch it (since I am NTSC region), and it booted fine in Pioneer, no issues. Like you said, no menus, and only a handful of chapters. Didn't watch whole thing yet, will do later.....Picture quality looked excellent, and seems true 5.1, not that recreated 5.1 on the PDVD.


Posted by ScabbyDoo on 01-10-2003 06:34 PM:

anyway time for my review.

Sound.

when i first listened to the sample the sound really blew me away. the sound is perfect and 5.1 Dolby Digital is greatly appreciated.

Video

video is Very good, better tahn the svcd. the quality will suite me until the DVD Retail is out.

about 2 DVDR's if the retail comes out at 2 dvdr's so be it. but if you really like the movie you should really think about buying this on retail. its one of many films that deserve your money. and the advantage of it all being on 1 disk rather than 2 will be great and i would gladly pay for that.


Posted by Ibegoat on 01-10-2003 07:47 PM:

wow... can't believe it is here already...but I have so much trouble finding dvd-r's..anyways I did find a sample and it looks great, and for those of you who are bitching about 2 DVD's need to go and play this on your tv... there would be not much of a quality difference unless u pay thousands for a HDTV..I'm out


-GoaT-


Posted by Mr_Grinch on 01-10-2003 07:51 PM:

Just a point (Don't know if it's been mentioned yet) but the special edition of Fellowship came on DVD's and you've got to remember that commercial discs are bigger than dvd-r's! But to be fair that release also had on about 6 different commentaries. But I (For a change) agree with the people bitching. THe point of dvd-r releases is not so you don't have to get off your lazy arse and swap the disc, it's for improved quality. And if 2 discs is the way to go then fair enough.

Also, I'm very ill.


Posted by huntdubie on 01-10-2003 08:01 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides


GET THIS: NO ONE IS GOING TO DO A 2 DISC DVD-R OF IT, so STOP CRYING AND WHINING FOR ONE!!!

The single-disc DVD-R (DVD-5) will DO JUST FINE until the RETAIL - live with it!!! It is a BOOTLEG, for christ's sake!!!

Now you guys want perfect quality from a bootleg? GET FUCKING REAL!!!




what's wrong with you guys? get so angry over a stupid little conversation about DVDR's and LOTR on a forum. It's sad....

by the way, paul, someone will release a two dvd ttt bootleg. just look at all the releases we have so far of just a TS and now two DVD SCR... it's inevitable


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 08:38 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by huntdubie



what's wrong with you guys? get so angry over a stupid little conversation about DVDR's and LOTR on a forum. It's sad....

by the way, paul, someone will release a two dvd ttt bootleg. just look at all the releases we have so far of just a TS and now two DVD SCR... it's inevitable




Don't hold your breath. Did you even BOTHER to look at the list of DVD-Rs here? How many are 2 Disc DVD-Rs?

It is a WASTE of time. If you want PERFECT quality, wait and buy the retail - geeze!


Posted by dotmusik on 01-10-2003 09:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ibegoat
wow... can't believe it is here already...but I have so much trouble finding dvd-r's..anyways I did find a sample and it looks great, and for those of you who are bitching about 2 DVD's need to go and play this on your tv... there would be not much of a quality difference unless u pay thousands for a HDTV..I'm out



I agree mate. Best release yet!

I dunno why ppl are giving it 8 for audio and sound, definetely atleast 9, but I'm going for 10/10/10

Get it! Its worth it!


Posted by Lord_Sauron on 01-10-2003 11:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gville
You people need to get a fucking clue. You have a near DVD QUALITY copy of one of the most anticipated and watched movies ever and its only been in theatres for THREE WEEKS!!! Yet you still bitch about the quality. It's free!!! Why not write a letter to New Line Cinema explaining to them that you need a copy of the original DVD9 screener because you just can't watch the downsampled one, it's not good enough for you....


LOL

Funny to think of someone writing or calling New Line...

Anyway, thx for the CLEAR info about this release...


Posted by ScabbyDoo on 01-11-2003 12:39 AM:

i doubt that there will be a 2 disk DVDR proper and/or internal.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with the quality of this rls. and i dont think any group is gunna waste there time whiney little assholes. they will save 2 disk rlses for the Retail version come on this is jsut a sreener. its got watermarks and using 1 dvdr is ok by me for a scr but 2 would be suicide considering i use DVD+R medi and you have to pay through the balls for it.


Posted by Moonshiner on 01-11-2003 12:44 AM:

Pretty good release

This is a genuine DVD-screener, and yes -the quality is about 70% that of the original screener DVD. But what do you expect? This is a 3-hour movie crammed onto space meant for no more than 2. Even with lower bitrate, you can notice hardly any artifacts. Only with real small objects.

Still the superior resolution over SVCD makes this release better than any SVCD of this release we've seen before. You can tell me what you want! 2.8 GB worth of SVCD is nothing compared to 4.3 GB of DVD. The bitrate is still higher. So before you start flaming me for being right, engage your brain before you engage your mouth, ok?


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-11-2003 01:39 AM:

Talking after

after watching quite a bit of the dvd-r, I think iND did an excellent job.... of course it is not perfect, but it looks hella nice and sounds great!

Congrats and MUCH THANKS to iND for the DVD SCR DVD-R, and the QUICK release of it


Paul


Posted by Jc100 on 01-11-2003 04:04 AM:

I know this release is a dvdr, is it any better than the svcd? is the sound corrected and is it true stereo not that shit that sounds so low u gotta amp your stereos to max to hear? Im wondering, if this is a better download and worth a re-encode to svcd myself. I love the pic on svcd sound was to low though.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-11-2003 06:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
I know this release is a dvdr, is it any better than the svcd? is the sound corrected and is it true stereo not that shit that sounds so low u gotta amp your stereos to max to hear? Im wondering, if this is a better download and worth a re-encode to svcd myself. I love the pic on svcd sound was to low though.


Of course it is, it is a HIGHER bitrate than the SVCD, and true
5.1 DD sound...... what do you think?


Posted by Devnull on 01-11-2003 07:52 AM:

Has it been determined whether or not this is just the SVCD re-encoded? And how about the audio? is it better in this release?


Posted by Jejje on 01-11-2003 08:42 AM:

think it´s great

This release is a hell lot of better than the 4cd SVCD release.. compared some scenes with water.. and it´s alot more clear in this version.. you can really see the difference there.. i was happy about the SVCD release but hell.. this is MUCH better and no cd-changes..

will buy the retail when it comes out.. but until then this is just as good.. or better even. because this is NOW!!!


Posted by DonOlsen on 01-11-2003 10:35 AM:

Jesus how hard can it be to read the other post in this tread? Stop asking ifs its the same as svcd and if the sound is better...its already been confirmed a few post back, if ya borthered to look.
Oh and by the way to put my vote in the discussion ...no it dos'nt need a 2 dvd version. Be happy that its here at all.


Posted by pcjerk on 01-11-2003 10:49 AM:

Well from all the info above I would have to say yes, this is a true DVDrip with the bitrate downsampled. The quality is superb for what it is. Only a picky spoiled pir8 would cry about this release.
The audio is TRUE 5.1 DD. This is not a svcd re-encode.


Posted by dotmusik on 01-11-2003 11:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Devnull
Has it been determined whether or not this is just the SVCD re-encoded? And how about the audio? is it better in this release?


No its most definetely not Better than SVCD.

Btw Devnull I gather ur the same dude from w****net? (DM here )


Posted by Sonikku on 01-11-2003 12:06 PM:

No, this is not the SVCD re-encoded. This was a direct copy of the screener DVD, with a lower bitrate to accomodate the consumer (4.7GB DVDR) instead of the pressed (9GB DVD9) the original was on.

Yes, the picture is better than the SVCD, and the sound is AC3 5.1 surround.

And why would you download the DVDR just to re-encode it to SVCD? That makes about 0 sense as you would just end up with...the SVCD release. Just get that and don't add the extra step.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-11-2003 01:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Devnull
Has it been determined whether or not this is just the SVCD re-encoded? And how about the audio? is it better in this release?



For the 100th FUCKING time, this is NOT, NOT, NOT, a SVCD re-encode!


Posted by Araknofobia on 01-11-2003 04:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides



For the 100th FUCKING time, this is NOT, NOT, NOT, a SVCD re-encode!



Hey smartass,

Take a chillpill dude

several other people have replied to his question, no need to diss him even more...


Posted by Devnull on 01-11-2003 09:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides



For the 100th FUCKING time, this is NOT, NOT, NOT, a SVCD re-encode!



wow, you're cool! I want to be like you.


Posted by Jc100 on 01-11-2003 09:52 PM:

Ok, I have a question, and it may sound stupid but can someone explain. If all other groups have no problems ripping their releases, IE Gangs of NY V4f sounds great and so do tcf's svcds, then why the hell does the svcd of this sound so low. My question on re-encode was maybe grabbing this and rencoded to svcd and keeping the good audio as obviously TDI rushed it out for props and not quality.


Posted by Hypnos on 01-11-2003 10:42 PM:

This is the saddest fucking thread I've ever seen Why do people try to post authoritatively on something they seem to know nothing about?

Let's just clear up some basics:

1. Production and screener DVDs are pressed using the DVD-9 format -- a dual layer format that can hold 8.54 billion BYTES (7.95 GB). That was the original format of this screener.

2. Group releases for DVD-R come in the form of DVD-5 -- a single layer format that can hold 4.7 billion bytes (4.35 GB)

3. The DVD specification was designed so that approximately 2 hours of high quality 720x480 29.97 fps video and audio could be fit on a DVD-5. This means the video would be encoded at approximately 5 Mbps. Studios usually make use of the extra space on the DVD-9 and encode their movies at significantly higher bitrates (generally between (6-7 Mbps). This higher bitrate produces noticably superior quality in home theater systems (HDTV's, etc)

4. At a little over 5 Mbps, a DVD-9 can just comfortably hold about 180 minutes of video with a 5.1 AC3 audio track and a 2ch AC3 track. This is why there was NOTHING else execpt a menu included on disc 1 of the original FOTR retail. You will also notice that there is a distinct improvement between the original FOTR and the extended edition which was encoded at a higher bitrate and split onto two DVD-9's.

5. Putting a 180 min movie (with 5.1 ac3, no less) on a DVD-5 requires encoding at approx 2.5 - 3 Mbps -- this is HALF what is recommended for good video and a THIRD of what most studios usually use for their releases. This bitrate is at the absolute bottom end of the MPEG-2 quality spectrum for 720x480 video -- in fact, you have to use special quantization matrices and a very good encoder to get a halfway decent result.

6. DVD video uses a 3:2 aspect ratio -- this is between 4:3 (traditional) and 16:9 (widescreen). When you play widescreen video on a display device that uses 4:3, the hardware has to stretch the video along the x axis using an interpolation algorithm to approximate the 16:9 aspect ratio. This means you are artifically increasing the resolution and it will actually tend to magnify any artifacts in the video.

7. SVCD video is encoded at 480x480 -- this is called half-D1 and is an approximation of standard NTSC resolution. This means that a well encoded SVCD will not look much worse than a DVD when viewed with a smaller, traditional TV.

------------------------------

Hopefully that clears up some of the confusion about whether a CD can hold more than a DVD

Anyway, nice release! Although I definately agree that since this is such a popular movie, it might be nice to release an original quality internal so people who knew what they were doing could either split it or downsample it according to their own tastes.

:: agreed on all counts, except that half-D1 is 352x240/288 i thought, rather than SVCD spec of 480x480/576.. i might be wrong as i dont deal in DVDR, but thats what im lead to believe.. -pHo


Posted by furturtle on 01-11-2003 10:46 PM:

help with svcd-dvd

I downloaded the svcd 4 cd dvd screener and i wanted to put it on a DVD+R. I copied the mpeg from disc one and burned it using Ulead. I played it and the video quality is amazing but the sound is completely out of sync. This only occurs on the DVD not at all on the SVCD.
I am sure I am completely doing it wrong because I have never done it before, but I would really appreciate any help that anyone may be generous enough to give.
please feel free to send me a response via PM.

many thanks

sorry if this isnt the appropriate forum.


Posted by pcjerk on 01-11-2003 10:52 PM:

Thats the problem with the alot of the groups in the scene. NO PRIDE IN THE WORK! Props to who & what? other humans? LOL!


Posted by ScabbyDoo on 01-11-2003 11:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
Ok, I have a question, and it may sound stupid but can someone explain. If all other groups have no problems ripping their releases, IE Gangs of NY V4f sounds great and so do tcf's svcds, then why the hell does the svcd of this sound so low. My question on re-encode was maybe grabbing this and rencoded to svcd and keeping the good audio as obviously TDI rushed it out for props and not quality.


they rushed it out to Please the little pligrams like you. and the sound isnt all that bad. only for those with amps. and to be honest if you have enough money to buy big fat sound systems you have enough money to see it in the theatre a few more times now stop whining its FREE for gods sake.


Posted by territory on 01-11-2003 11:58 PM:

the quality is amazing, anybody complaining about this release just stfu, go watch the cam if u dont like it ;P by far the best yet


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 12:22 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Araknofobia


Hey smartass,

Take a chillpill dude

several other people have replied to his question, no need to diss him even more...




Hey dumbass.... when I replied (on the board, NO OTHER replies were here), but some how they are now magically inserted between his question and my first reply. Get lost creep!


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 12:28 AM:

Re: help with svcd-dvd

quote:
Originally posted by furturtle
I downloaded the svcd 4 cd dvd screener and i wanted to put it on a DVD+R. I copied the mpeg from disc one and burned it using Ulead. I played it and the video quality is amazing but the sound is completely out of sync. This only occurs on the DVD not at all on the SVCD.
I am sure I am completely doing it wrong because I have never done it before, but I would really appreciate any help that anyone may be generous enough to give.
please feel free to send me a response via PM.

many thanks

sorry if this isnt the appropriate forum.




Don't use Ulead to to any type of encoding... Run the SVCD Mpegs through TMPGE for DVD Video (at the proper settings), put them back together in TMPGE, then take the resulting mpegs into Ulead Movie Factory (w/chapters separating the files), or into Ulead DVD Workshop (w/no chapters, and instruction to play back to back so it is seemless).

I had same issue as you when I converted Vanilla Sky SVCD mpegs to DVD Video using Ulead as encoder, which sux, and was completely out of sync. Use TMPGE, and just give Ulead the finished DVD-Video compliant mpegs.


Posted by TK7381 on 01-12-2003 12:41 AM:

Hi
I will download this ntsc-version and the region fix. Thanks for it. But is it possible that there is a Pal-DvD-Screener with german-ac3 5.1 surround out?

Greetings

TK7381


Posted by SilentRAGE on 01-12-2003 01:24 AM:

Reign is releasing a 2 dvd-r version, in fact it's out, should be on here soon, seems people can have a choice now...

DVD-R The Lord Of The Rings Two Towers (2002) 166x50 MB REIGN


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 01:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by SilentRAGE
Reign is releasing a 2 dvd-r version, in fact it's out, should be on here soon, seems people can have a choice now...

DVD-R The Lord Of The Rings Two Towers (2002) 166x50 MB REIGN







[NFORCE] Date2003-01-12) SectionDVD-R) TitleThe Lord Of The Rings Two Towers (2002)) GroupREIGN) Size166x50 MB)


Damn cry babies WON....enjoy your 2 Disc DVD-R bootleg on your RETAIL HDTV. Seems sick to use HDTV and bootleg in the same sentence, lol


Posted by SilentRAGE on 01-12-2003 01:41 AM:

i personally dont give a shit if they ripped a 1 dvd or 2 dvd version, but I have an hdtv, I have nice bandwidth, so i'll get the 8.3gig thank you very much.....either way this will keep everyone quiet.....


Posted by reddragon72 on 01-12-2003 02:05 AM:

Re: Re: help with svcd-dvd

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides



Don't use Ulead to to any type of encoding... Run the SVCD Mpegs through TMPGE for DVD Video (at the proper settings), put them back together in TMPGE, then take the resulting mpegs into Ulead Movie Factory (w/chapters separating the files), or into Ulead DVD Workshop (w/no chapters, and instruction to play back to back so it is seemless).

I had same issue as you when I converted Vanilla Sky SVCD mpegs to DVD Video using Ulead as encoder, which sux, and was completely out of sync. Use TMPGE, and just give Ulead the finished DVD-Video compliant mpegs.



accually the best way is to use dvd2avi and run that through the reader to give you a nice small avi. now use that avi with tempg with the proper dvd(ntsc) settings and your set. there are tons of sites that have step by step instruction on how to convert everything over to everything else. I like tempg but it's splitter/joiner can give you trouble sometimes and you'll not know till you play it back.


Posted by PeZzmania on 01-12-2003 04:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides
Damn cry babies WON....enjoy your 2 Disc DVD-R bootleg on your RETAIL HDTV. Seems sick to use HDTV and bootleg in the same sentence, lol


Don't it make you sick that all these rich bastards infiltrated the 'scene'?...and they all probably started out on AOL.


Posted by pcjerk on 01-12-2003 05:41 AM:

Talking

Exactly, but as usual no pride only EGO!


Posted by godmoney on 01-12-2003 07:25 AM:

When I burn the image file, it will play on my DVD players, but the chapters are glitchy. When I skip chapters, the player will sometrimes freeze, or skip scenes, or whichever. If I just let it play all the way through, it works fine, but I want some damn chapters. Would extracting the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders and dragging them into a complilation in Nero fix this problem? Or is it the rip itself? Anyone else have this problem? Thanks for the help.


Posted by DaGamePimp on 01-12-2003 07:35 AM:

Thumbs up

Yes , Extract the IMG file with Isobuster 1.2 then burn the VIDEO_TS folder using either Nero or Record Now Max [ and if you want better reliability that the dvd will read in most standalone dvd players then use UDF ] .
-- DGP --
Great Job on the downconversion to 1 DVD iND - Thank You ! I would have never thought such a low bitrate could look this nice .


Posted by godmoney on 01-12-2003 07:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by DaGamePimp
Yes , Extract the IMG file with Isobuster 1.2 then burn the VIDEO_TS folder using either Nero or Record Now Max [ and if you want better reliability that the dvd will read in most standalone dvd players then use UDF ] .
-- DGP --
Great Job on the downconversion to 1 DVD iND - Thank You ! I would have never thought such a low bitrate could look this nice .



so doing that will fix the chapter problems? Awesome...it's just a shame I already burned the other one and printed out a label too

Thanks for your help.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 07:58 AM:

Post

quote:
Originally posted by godmoney
When I burn the image file, it will play on my DVD players, but the chapters are glitchy. When I skip chapters, the player will sometrimes freeze, or skip scenes, or whichever. If I just let it play all the way through, it works fine, but I want some damn chapters. Would extracting the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders and dragging them into a complilation in Nero fix this problem? Or is it the rip itself? Anyone else have this problem? Thanks for the help.



Could be your media. I only burn TDK, and that solved all my freezing/pausing problems months ago.


Posted by Araknofobia on 01-12-2003 10:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides



Hey dumbass.... when I replied (on the board, NO OTHER replies were here), but some how they are now magically inserted between his question and my first reply. Get lost creep!



ohh you're soo fucking cool!!...damn........you just rock this board with your cool comments!!!!!

by the way....you mom was good last night...
creep....lmfao....get lost bitch...


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 01:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PeZzmania


Don't it make you sick that all these rich bastards infiltrated the 'scene'?...and they all probably started out on AOL.




LOL!!! ...and they will be the ones to RUIN or bring down the scene, because they only want the 2 Disc DVD-R version to SHOW OFF to their friends on their HDTV sets!!!

Sites are going down left and right, and I"m sure it is because some rich/spoiled adult/kid can't keep his fucking mouth shut .....

I still can't believe people were crying over a 2 Disc "BOOTLEG" Version just so they have better quality on their $5K-$10K TV sets.......GO BUY THE DAMN DVD-9 SCR off one of the Academy judges you rich spoiled FUCK!!!


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 01:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Araknofobia


ohh you're soo fucking cool!!...damn........you just rock this board with your cool comments!!!!!

by the way....you mom was good last night...
creep....lmfao....get lost bitch...




go back to kazaa, or newsgoups, or wherever you get your shit!


Posted by Araknofobia on 01-12-2003 01:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides



go back to kazaa, or newsgoups, or wherever you get your shit!



lmfao......you keep on commenting on shit you do not know...no wonder people disagree with your comments - which hopefully makes you feel pathetic or inferior..........

oh, by the way....kazaa..naah - You can keep that source (lmfao) for yourself.....I have no problems getting my shit, I don't care about such things at all....that's why i have time and why i'm trying to trash you inhere....I want people to comment without dissing eachother.......and it seems like you're just an annoying parasite on my way around vcdq.


Posted by drekmister on 01-12-2003 05:28 PM:

does this release have menus?


Posted by pcjerk on 01-12-2003 07:58 PM:

Rarely do any of the academy screeners have menu's. For one, logically, if would take some time to do the artwork. Duh! If people would thinkg about the production time & what it takes to assemble a DVD you would know. But most of you don't know cause all you do is D/L someone else's work.

As for the 2 disc set, hey if you wanna download 9gigs go ahead. LOL! It's no big deal Paul, they are just spoiled as you said. You know the scene is shit when all the user's start demanding things. LMAO!

I say reduce it all the VHS quality & let them have that for a while. Kinda reminds of the kids today, running the parents. They will just cry, whine & moan till they get their way. As usual, they got their way.

As long as ALL the pir8's are happy, I guess that's all that matters.
ROFL!


Posted by Essefgy on 01-12-2003 08:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides

I still can't believe people were crying over a 2 Disc "BOOTLEG" Version just so they have better quality on their $5K-$10K TV sets.......GO BUY THE DAMN DVD-9 SCR off one of the Academy judges you rich spoiled FUCK!!!



A nice social criticism...but really we're really just a bunch of people who want to watch this movie in the best possible way and cannot wait till the retail version comes out in July. In short, the IND version looks and sounds fine, but the Reign should be even better. And by the way, my TV's only worth $1K.

I wish you well in your efforts to purge the world of elitism. I hope you enjoy watching your copy of The Two Towers, which I would assume you've converted to Betamax.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 08:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Araknofobia


lmfao......you keep on commenting on shit you do not know...no wonder people disagree with your comments - which hopefully makes you feel pathetic or inferior..........

oh, by the way....kazaa..naah - You can keep that source (lmfao) for yourself.....I have no problems getting my shit, I don't care about such things at all....that's why i have time and why i'm trying to trash you inhere....I want people to comment without dissing eachother.......and it seems like you're just an annoying parasite on my way around vcdq.




Dumb ass. Read the THREAD. You're the one who changed the subject and starting talking about someone's momma, like a punk ass 10 yrs old.

People get dissed because they say LAME shit, like you.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 08:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pcjerk
Rarely do any of the academy screeners have menu's. For one, logically, if would take some time to do the artwork. Duh! If people would thinkg about the production time & what it takes to assemble a DVD you would know. But most of you don't know cause all you do is D/L someone else's work.

As for the 2 disc set, hey if you wanna download 9gigs go ahead. LOL! It's no big deal Paul, they are just spoiled as you said. You know the scene is shit when all the user's start demanding things. LMAO!

I say reduce it all the VHS quality & let them have that for a while. Kinda reminds of the kids today, running the parents. They will just cry, whine & moan till they get their way. As usual, they got their way.

As long as ALL the pir8's are happy, I guess that's all that matters.
ROFL!




I know man. The scene is becoming this elitest bitch, and starting to bother me. I came from the days when DVD-R WASN'T even a thought! We were just happy to get the crappy ass .asf files with pissy sound. Then came the rise of DivX because no one wanted the large ass mpegs, then VCD/SVCD (for those connected), and now DVD-R.

I guess you appreciate where you have come from when your first download was a MrG .asf file of "Scream" (Scream I that is) ;P

To see all these whiners of a perfectly good iND DVD-R release, is disheartening, that's all.


Posted by pcjerk on 01-12-2003 09:07 PM:

It's part of the human gene to complain.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 09:16 PM:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by pcjerk
It's part of the human gene to complain.


LMAO! Guess so...I need to not take this shit to heart.......heh.

Half these muthas whining won't have access to the single or 2 disc one...... they just like whining.

Oh well, such is life Take it easy!


Posted by Araknofobia on 01-12-2003 09:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides



Dumb ass. Read the THREAD. You're the one who changed the subject and starting talking about someone's momma, like a punk ass 10 yrs old.

People get dissed because they say LAME shit, like you.



I do read the thread Bitch......that's why I intereferred with your pathetic dominating shit inhere..no people dare say anything to you cause you obviously got some much more knowledge than them.. sure!!...well...you're not talking to some new guy now.....It's so fucking lame of you....you're the fucking 10year old when you can't do anything else than fucking diss people...that's why i'll try to trash you every fucking time from now on......stay fucking tuned bitch...


Posted by dotmusik on 01-12-2003 09:59 PM:

chill out guys! If i didn't know any better I would think you all just took a load of THC!

Its all good, dont complain, dont flame (tho we all do it sometimes).

And if u dont have this release, then GET IT!


Posted by No-Skillz on 01-12-2003 10:12 PM:

Anyone having trouble getting past the first 1:40-2 mark? It freezes for me around this point, as well as for many others. Anyone know how to fix this?


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 10:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by No-Skillz
Anyone having trouble getting past the first 1:40-2 mark? It freezes for me around this point, as well as for many others. Anyone know how to fix this?



no probs here man....try different media


Posted by No-Skillz on 01-12-2003 10:56 PM:

It's doing this on and off my hard drive. I guess alot of people are getting it too, but havent found a solution. I even patched it like I was supposed to. Also, there is an authentication error with winrar that me/others keep getting.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-12-2003 11:25 PM:

Red face

quote:
Originally posted by No-Skillz
It's doing this on and off my hard drive. I guess alot of people are getting it too, but havent found a solution. I even patched it like I was supposed to. Also, there is an authentication error with winrar that me/others keep getting.


No probs on hdd or any TDK DVD-R I've burned. The authentication errors are there, just IGNORE the messages, and winrar will unrar the image anyway. That happened with everyone.

Btw, I DID NOT patch mine, since all my DVD players are NTSC, so no need to make it regionfree, and probably fuck up something else.....


Posted by No-Skillz on 01-12-2003 11:27 PM:

If you find out anything, let me know.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-13-2003 12:38 AM:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by No-Skillz
If you find out anything, let me know.


This is what I used:

Winrar 3.00 (eval version)
Pioneer A03 DVD-R/RW Burner, firmware 1.80
Prassi PrimoDVD Build 2.0.749
TDK 2X Certified DVD-R Media
*UNPATCHED* Image (if it makes a diffference)

done several, no problems on any of them - all 100% perfect.


Posted by No-Skillz on 01-13-2003 01:08 AM:

Figured it out. It kept messing up after the first authentication and would say it was done, but it really wasn't. So I tried it a few more times, took a little longer finally and the img unrared completely. Thanks for your time though.


Posted by neo_tokyo on 01-13-2003 02:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilBoB


Answer : Lord Of The Rings : The Fellowship of the Ring - Extended version
Comes on two DVD9's



heh, i meant 10GB on one (1) disk no many... my bad i should have precised it...

the extend version is 15.5gb~


Posted by 100%nUkE! on 01-13-2003 11:40 AM:

quote:
I will download this ntsc-version and the region fix. Thanks for it. But is it possible that there is a Pal-DvD-Screener with german-ac3 5.1 surround out?


yep - i enjoyed it yesterday - quiet nice

But THE MAIN PROBLEM OF THIS SITE/90% of ALL THREADS IS :

LAME people trying to act LEET !

anyways - peace 2 all of you - the people who cant wait for the retail can now be glad about the 2-DVD release - for me (downloaded now over 20 Gigs of Lotr (*pukes*)) the 1 DVD version is good enough...Overall everybody should be happy by now...if NOT - think seriously about you being spoilt...!


Posted by apache-vampir on 01-14-2003 12:44 AM:

hmm after about a zillion posts on this rls - i think there are about a handful that have actually downloaded and burnt it -
iam not gonna grumble that it took me about 22 hours to d/l it - as i think it is very good quality (yak yak all u know-it-all-better-than -anyone-else),
only 1 guy(i think)arther has mentioned the authenticity fuck upski in the winrar files - whick majorly pissed me off lol as at first i thought my whole d/l was shagged, but i mamanged to get the .img out anyway- slightly pissed off about there not being menu's ,vcdquality version of the ind rls says there are menu's - but the nfo from where i got the download is slightly differant- the region code lock was a little silly i guess good on the patch tho - all i can say is it saves me messing with the svcd cds all that multiplex and audio crap-lol ,
as for the 2 x dvdr rls - i dont think i will bother really this 1 is good enough for now
thanks again guys nice job!!!
-=apache=-


Posted by starwars22 on 01-14-2003 01:40 AM:

hi downloaded this release and watched it but when I was watching it it would freeze at least 2 or 3 times throughout the whole movie, the only way I would be able to proceed would be to hit fast forward for 1 second on my remote and then play and it would show that scene that it froze at again and then continue on. this happened 3 times. I unrared the img with winrar and got the authenticy errors and then I extracted the image with isobuster and burnt the VIDEO_TS folder in nero using dvd rom udf on sony dvd+RW. would this problem be fixed if I just burn the image directly to dvd instead of extracting it with isobuster, or is it the media im using.
thanks
the quality is great and the sound is amazing


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-14-2003 03:27 AM:

ungrateful pricks!

fuck the whiners who are NOW crying about a damn menu....

remember something you SPOILED FUCKS: IT IS A BOOTLEG!!! No one owes you shit to put on a menu , regardless of the .nfo file .... damn, the scene has become saturated with spoiled kids....

your asses need to go back to the days of .asf files with people's heads in the picture and mono sound.......ungrateful bitches.....


as for the last poster, the freezing is a problem with your media, most likely..... try some certified 2x media , good shit, like TDK, Apple, or Verbatim, and hopefully you will be fine......


Posted by pcjerk on 01-14-2003 06:37 AM:

Sounds like bad media. Media is a nightmare. The cheaper media's quality is inconsistant. Verbatim's are good. Apple's as well. TDK.

Grab some artwork & make a menu if you need. =)


Posted by apache-vampir on 01-14-2003 12:43 PM:

Re: ungrateful pricks!

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides
fuck the whiners who are NOW crying about a damn menu....

remember something you SPOILED FUCKS: IT IS A BOOTLEG!!! No one owes you shit to put on a menu , regardless of the .nfo file .... damn, the scene has become saturated with spoiled kids....

your asses need to go back to the days of .asf files with people's heads in the picture and mono sound.......ungrateful bitches.....



Jeese!! man chill will ya !! dont you realise how lame you sound !!!
your the one who sounds lilke a spoilt kid,why is it you like to SHOUT your own opinion to everyone yet - you flame everyone elses? yak dis yak dat !yeah a few of us here do rember the asf times ...so what !
out of all the posts u hav emade i wonder how many are clear of flames?
ahh well i guess this is similar to real life where we all have to endure the opinon of someone who is not interested in anyone elses
flame away !!


Posted by lerkster on 01-14-2003 04:43 PM:

Has anyone else experienced this? At exactly 2:48:31 in the movie it ends prematurely (If I remember correctly about 3-5 mins from the ending) and then there's about 2-3 seconds of black screen and then it starts over from the beginning at 2:48:34 with the blurb at the beginning "This Presentation You Are About To See...snip" and then at exactly 2:59:12 the movie ends with Sam and Frodo arguing over what to do with Gollum in the hills of Emyn Muil...

I had a friend burn this for me... so is he just a lame-brain or is this happening to everyone?

Also, no skips or hangs/freezes in this release for me.

9/9/10

lerkster


Posted by puppydg68 on 01-14-2003 04:45 PM:

Firstly, I read through the posts. No-one dissed this released because it's a single disc, nor did anyone "Demand" a 2 disc version.. These are all terms you complainers added to dramatize your point. Anyone who discussed the benefits of a 2 disc version did so in a polite and well formed manner, not swearing their heads off like you guys ready to jump on anything you don't see fit. As a result there is a 2 disc version released, and those who appreciate it will do so and download it.. Those who do not appreciate the choice given to us, shouldn't complain about it. Just don't download it.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-14-2003 07:40 PM:

Re: Re: ungrateful pricks!

quote:
Originally posted by apache-vampire

Jeese!! man chill will ya !! dont you realise how lame you sound !!!
your the one who sounds lilke a spoilt kid,why is it you like to SHOUT your own opinion to everyone yet - you flame everyone elses? yak dis yak dat !yeah a few of us here do rember the asf times ...so what !
out of all the posts u hav emade i wonder how many are clear of flames?
ahh well i guess this is similar to real life where we all have to endure the opinon of someone who is not interested in anyone elses
flame away !!




whatever, I"m sure it is real lame to tell "some" of you to be grateful and stfu!!! at least I'm helping answer some questions about the release, media, freezes, skips, etc.

wtf are you doing? nothing but whining about my posts.... get a life!


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-14-2003 07:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lerkster
Has anyone else experienced this? At exactly 2:48:31 in the movie it ends prematurely (If I remember correctly about 3-5 mins from the ending) and then there's about 2-3 seconds of black screen and then it starts over from the beginning at 2:48:34 with the blurb at the beginning "This Presentation You Are About To See...snip" and then at exactly 2:59:12 the movie ends with Sam and Frodo arguing over what to do with Gollum in the hills of Emyn Muil...

I had a friend burn this for me... so is he just a lame-brain or is this happening to everyone?

Also, no skips or hangs/freezes in this release for me.

9/9/10

lerkster




no probs here, like that, man


Posted by emporer on 01-14-2003 10:52 PM:

premature end??????????????

I have exactly the same shit, finishes 2hr48min and roughly 30ish seconds, apart from that it went lovely, i only have whitelabel media which I have found to be the best for movies and this is my first bad one out of around 40. I burned it twice and its exactly the same. Any ideas???? btw i did patch it with supplied patch



quote:
Originally posted by lerkster
Has anyone else experienced this? At exactly 2:48:31 in the movie it ends prematurely (If I remember correctly about 3-5 mins from the ending) and then there's about 2-3 seconds of black screen and then it starts over from the beginning at 2:48:34 with the blurb at the beginning "This Presentation You Are About To See...snip" and then at exactly 2:59:12 the movie ends with Sam and Frodo arguing over what to do with Gollum in the hills of Emyn Muil...

I had a friend burn this for me... so is he just a lame-brain or is this happening to everyone?

Also, no skips or hangs/freezes in this release for me.

9/9/10

lerkster


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-15-2003 05:53 AM:

Re: premature end??????????????

quote:
Originally posted by emporer
I have exactly the same shit, finishes 2hr48min and roughly 30ish seconds, apart from that it went lovely, i only have whitelabel media which I have found to be the best for movies and this is my first bad one out of around 40. I burned it twice and its exactly the same. Any ideas???? btw i did patch it with supplied patch






You didn't use isobuster did you? Also, try NOT patching it. I didn't patch mine since US is NTSC, and all the ones I've burned have been 100% fine, play all the way through, to the end, even credits Btw, I ONLY use Branded TDK Media.


Posted by CMDJ1982 on 01-15-2003 05:24 PM:

Leaving the DVD image on my comp.

Sorry if this has already been posted (I only read throught the first 6 pages of this thread up to when the people crying for a 2-disc DVD-R got their wish.)

I don't currently own a DVD burner, so I intend to unpack the .img file contained in the Winrar archive, delete the archive, unpack the image, delete the .img file, and run the .vob files on my computer with PowerDVD (or whatever DVD player prog. I decide to go with). I imagine there should be no problems at all with this, but I am curious as to whether or not I should apply the fix to the .img file before I unpack it if I'm not going to bother ripping it onto a disc anyway...

Any advice would be much appreciated.


Posted by lerkster on 01-15-2003 05:50 PM:

Re: Re: premature end??????????????

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides


You didn't use isobuster did you? Also, try NOT patching it. I didn't patch mine since US is NTSC, and all the ones I've burned have been 100% fine, play all the way through, to the end, even credits Btw, I ONLY use Branded TDK Media.



I didn't use isobuster or the patch. Used NEO DVD to burn the .IMG file. What is weird is that I played the .IMG file with a mounted DVD drive (Alcohol 120%) and it played fine. So it has to be somewhere in the burning process!


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-15-2003 11:05 PM:

Re: Re: Re: premature end??????????????

quote:
Originally posted by lerkster


I didn't use isobuster or the patch. Used NEO DVD to burn the .IMG file. What is weird is that I played the .IMG file with a mounted DVD drive (Alcohol 120%) and it played fine. So it has to be somewhere in the burning process!



What burner? I bet it wasn't a Pioneer.
Don't tell me that piece of shit Sony?


Posted by tHaCuBe on 01-16-2003 12:50 AM:

burned mine on a HP and it worked fine


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-18-2003 03:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Essefgy


A nice social criticism...but really we're really just a bunch of people who want to watch this movie in the best possible way and cannot wait till the retail version comes out in July. In short, the IND version looks and sounds fine, but the Reign should be even better. And by the way, my TV's only worth $1K.

I wish you well in your efforts to purge the world of elitism. I hope you enjoy watching your copy of The Two Towers, which I would assume you've converted to Betamax.




Betamax? LOL...... When do you have the right to demand quality from a BOOTLEG? Get the f*ck out of here. That is the problem with you elitest jerks - you think you have a right to a certain quality from something that is STOLEN in the first place. Dumbass.


Posted by ChuckDees on 01-24-2003 08:06 PM:

Don't know if this is in the right forum but I am having a problem with the playback on this release.

I used ISOBuster to extract the Video_TS and Audio_TS and used the newest version of Nero, ver 5.5.10.0. I create a blank DVD-ROM UDF template and drag the two folders over. On the UDF tab I force XBox compatibility and away the burn goes.

It burns fine and plays in my XBox and on my PC. But about 2:15 into the movie the video starts chopping and basically becomes completley unwatchable. This happens on both my XBox and PC using PowerDVD. My friend's copy is doing the same on his Playstation 2.

I am using Imation DVD-R and burning at 1X using Panasonic DVD-RAM/R.

Are there any other programs that can assure playback in a XBox?

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks

__________________
"I smell varmint poontang." - Bill Murray


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-25-2003 06:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ChuckDees
Don't know if this is in the right forum but I am having a problem with the playback on this release.

I used ISOBuster to extract the Video_TS and Audio_TS and used the newest version of Nero, ver 5.5.10.0. I create a blank DVD-ROM UDF template and drag the two folders over. On the UDF tab I force XBox compatibility and away the burn goes.

It burns fine and plays in my XBox and on my PC. But about 2:15 into the movie the video starts chopping and basically becomes completley unwatchable. This happens on both my XBox and PC using PowerDVD. My friend's copy is doing the same on his Playstation 2.

I am using Imation DVD-R and burning at 1X using Panasonic DVD-RAM/R.

Are there any other programs that can assure playback in a XBox?

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks




You can start by ditching the Imation SHIT DVD-Rs, which were rated the WORST DVD-Rs on the market by some testing. Tons of errors which are not allowed in the last 8 sectors of media, like 5x more than any other brand.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-25-2003 06:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ChuckDees
Don't know if this is in the right forum but I am having a problem with the playback on this release.

I used ISOBuster to extract the Video_TS and Audio_TS and used the newest version of Nero, ver 5.5.10.0. I create a blank DVD-ROM UDF template and drag the two folders over. On the UDF tab I force XBox compatibility and away the burn goes.

It burns fine and plays in my XBox and on my PC. But about 2:15 into the movie the video starts chopping and basically becomes completley unwatchable. This happens on both my XBox and PC using PowerDVD. My friend's copy is doing the same on his Playstation 2.

I am using Imation DVD-R and burning at 1X using Panasonic DVD-RAM/R.

Are there any other programs that can assure playback in a XBox?

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks




You can start by ditching the Imation SHIT DVD-Rs, which were rated the WORST DVD-Rs on the market by some testing. Tons of errors which are not allowed in the last 8 sectors of media, like 5x more than any other brand.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-25-2003 06:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ChuckDees
Don't know if this is in the right forum but I am having a problem with the playback on this release.

I used ISOBuster to extract the Video_TS and Audio_TS and used the newest version of Nero, ver 5.5.10.0. I create a blank DVD-ROM UDF template and drag the two folders over. On the UDF tab I force XBox compatibility and away the burn goes.

It burns fine and plays in my XBox and on my PC. But about 2:15 into the movie the video starts chopping and basically becomes completley unwatchable. This happens on both my XBox and PC using PowerDVD. My friend's copy is doing the same on his Playstation 2.

I am using Imation DVD-R and burning at 1X using Panasonic DVD-RAM/R.

Are there any other programs that can assure playback in a XBox?

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks




You can start by ditching the Imation SHIT DVD-Rs, which were rated the WORST DVD-Rs on the market by some testing. Tons of errors which are not allowed in the last 8 sectors of media, like 5x more than any other brand.


Posted by ToeCutter on 01-26-2003 03:57 AM:

While I'm by no means new to forums, I am new to this one.

I've been lurking for a few days, reading and learning, in hopes of snagging the REiGN Two Towers release. I'm a self-confessed videophile, I own all the requisite hardware and deeply enjoy the DVD format. I would desperately like to get my hands on this release. I've already seen the movie 3 times, but would still enjoy seeing it on my HT.

What I can't figure out is why so many assume that the desire for the highest quality release is a bad thing. This is digital information folks, not fine wine. Copying a DVD screener takes all of about 5 minutes of real work, minus the waiting for the IFOEdit and the burner to finish their magic. A downsampled copy is nothing more than a diluted copy. Like ditch weed, nice in a pinch, but defintely not preferred. Why not post the screeners at their full potency?

PaulAAtreides: Don't even bother responding to this post. Despite your "Senior Member" status, I have no interest in your opinion. I've read your countless replies to other posts and I'm certain that your ignorance knows no bounds. Any replies bearing your name will be ignored like a car alarm in Brooklyn.


Posted by pcjerk on 01-26-2003 05:21 AM:

If piracy for profit wasn't such an issue it wouldn't matter. But most of the time people take the higher end ones & make money off them, which is bullshit. Yeah, I'm talking about China & the other 3rd world shitty countries. Actually, you deserver nothing. You get what you can get. Because this is based on group status & EGO, you'll pretty much always get what you want.

Do a search on ebay for Two Towers DVD. That is the kinda shit that gives all of this a bad name.

Any movie for that matter.

If you want Quality, don't waste your time with the REiGN one, get the DsR 2 release.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-26-2003 04:00 PM:

quote:
[i]PaulAAtreides: Don't even bother responding to this post. Despite your "Senior Member" status, I have no interest in your opinion. I've read your countless replies to other posts and I'm certain that your ignorance knows no bounds. Any replies bearing your name will be ignored like a car alarm in Brooklyn. [/B]



F*ck you. And it is your disrespect for senior members and hardwork of release groups that will keep you FROM access to any of it!

While you're screaming I"m ignorant, at least I"m not here WHINING for groups to put out DVD-9 QUALITY B-O-O-T-L-E-G-S!!!! Sounds f*cking ridiculous to demand quality from stolen/illegal material for your HDTV setup!

Also, thanks for responding, because it is always nice to know who is stupid enough to piss OFF the people WITH ACCESS, dumbass. At least as a newbie (many years ago to IRC), I NEVER, NEVER insulted or pissed off people with more power and access than I - Biting off the hand that could feed you, idiot!

Goodluck finding the release on Kazaa, WinMx , or whatever the fuck P2P shit you use.

EDIT: And obviously the toecutter idiot didn't realize the original screener is DVD-9, so copying it and making it fit on a DVD-5 (since we CAN'T burn a DVD-9, DOH), takes a lot more than five minutes - dumbass.

For those (in the know), the DrS 2-Disc Internal has menu, 21 chapters, and NO GLITCH (like the REiGN one).


Posted by BonoMan on 01-30-2003 04:55 AM:

iND release problem?

I have the iND release..and for some reason on SEVERAL occasions (especially the Gollum "schizophrenia" scene)...it sputters, skips, freezes up and ultimate locks up the program....anybody else have this problem?


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-30-2003 09:27 AM:

Re: iND release problem?

quote:
Originally posted by BonoMan
I have the iND release..and for some reason on SEVERAL occasions (especially the Gollum "schizophrenia" scene)...it sputters, skips, freezes up and ultimate locks up the program....anybody else have this problem?



It's either the "media" that it was burned on, or your DVD player. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the encode......


Posted by BonoMan on 01-30-2003 11:56 PM:

I know the original rip was fine...and I am playing it directly from a mounted .img file.

Just didn't know if there was a bad copy floating around though...


Posted by Ricc81 on 02-02-2003 02:13 PM:

If you got the release unpacked (not the .img-file) is there a way to patch the movie for the bad frame? It's for the Reign-release...


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 02-02-2003 03:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ricc81
If you got the release unpacked (not the .img-file) is there a way to patch the movie for the bad frame? It's for the Reign-release...



There is a fix patch by DrS for the bad frames in the REiGN version.
Supposedly works perfectly...


Posted by pebsdad2 on 02-07-2003 08:46 PM:

WinRAR error

I know I'm a little late with posting to this group but I thought I had a problem on my hard drive end. Seems not...I have a new, very empty hard drive.

When I try to unpak the file with WinRAR 3.0 it gets to 94% complete (part 87) and I get the message "write error in the file lotr2-dvdr-scrnr.img. Probably the disk is full". This happens every time and the disc is definitly not full. I can't click past it, it will only let me cancel the unpaking.

Any ideas? Thanks


Posted by Extractor on 02-09-2003 03:49 AM:

pebsdad2, yes.

Your HD is most likely formatted in FAT32. This Filesystem has a limit of 4gb for a single file. That's why it aborts once the file reaches this size while you unrar it. Re-format the HD to NTFS or use the convert command to make it ntfs (I hope you're using NT-based windows, hehe)

cheers


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