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Posted by plonk420 on 04-17-2004 11:44 PM:

:: Wrong section. This section is for people to rate the release, not simply discuss the movie. -K::


Posted by MoNoXiDe on 04-17-2004 11:52 PM:

Very Nice TS... 8/8/x

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Posted by bob0r on 04-17-2004 11:55 PM:

Quick SVCD TS indeed!

Video for TS: 8
Audio for TS: 6
Movie: 8


Posted by es-mal-pass on 04-17-2004 11:58 PM:

just looked at sample 9/9/?
one of the best ts ive seen picture is clear with plenty of colour
sound is very clear

thankyou tcr for this 1


Posted by diekund on 04-18-2004 12:04 AM:

audio = quite good, i dunno theres a slight buzz in it at some points

video = very good, kinda orange but i like it very much

film = looks amazing eye gouging and all



8.5/7/(hopfully 10 :P)

this until scr or dvd

only downside is 3cds


Posted by Jdigital03 on 04-18-2004 12:13 AM:

Thumbs up

from sample not 2 bad

7/8/10

watched in theatre yesterday & i liked it better than vol. 1 will keep me entertained till something better comes along.


Posted by Scorch on 04-18-2004 12:14 AM:

Sample looked and sounded great.. saw in the theatre yesterday, amazing stuff, can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!

7/8/10


Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 04-18-2004 12:21 AM:

V: 9 (excellent colours, crisp, slight tilt)
A: 8.5 (nice and direct)
M: ? (will be watching this rls)

Kickass quality, cant ask for much better. Cheers TCR

Post film review :

v: 8 (blue for first 12 mins, then parts during the film where goes psychedelic)
A: 8.5(was nice)
M: 9 (props to QT)

Shame about the funky colours through the film,it was so nearly perfect.

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Posted by T-H-E-W-H-O on 04-18-2004 12:26 AM:

um i saw the sample nice work tcr... 8/8/?


Posted by Gumpa on 04-18-2004 12:28 AM:

Not bad, not the best "TS" I've seen but will keep me happy til something better (a lot better) comes along.

quote:
Sample looked and sounded great.. saw in the theatre yesterday, amazing stuff, can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!


It's a 2 year old movie, Tarantino is just bringing it over from China. There are already multiple releases of it. (MiramAxe had originally planned to just shelve it for a while longer, like they did on Shaolin Soccer (3 years), til Tarantino came along and forced it out of em)

7/7/10 for this release though.. Solid video (looks like an oversaturated VHS), solid sound (fairly clear, major plus), and I fucking love this movie - completely different beast than the first volume (talking.. talking.. more talking) but damn talk about entertaining.

Sweet job, TCR.


Posted by Kamakazie on 04-18-2004 12:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorch
can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!



Tarantino had nothing to do with Hero, it was released in China 2 years ago, Tarantino is just producing it in the US.

On the subject of this release - 7/6/10

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Posted by ions on 04-18-2004 12:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorch
Sample looked and sounded great.. saw in the theatre yesterday, amazing stuff, can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!

7/8/10



Not hardly a tarantino movie...this movie has been out for like 2 yrs now its JUST getting a USA major theater rls ive had the import 2 disc rls for like 1 1/2yrs it is an awesome movie but it isnt directed or produced or have anything to do with tarantino film wise other than he got it FINALLY rlsed in america.


Posted by JonBlaze87 on 04-18-2004 12:48 AM:

YES ! Fucking Awsome... I was hoping a "real" group would rls this. Thank god...

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Posted by Technote on 04-18-2004 12:48 AM:

Qually very nice 7/8/6


Posted by lax01 on 04-18-2004 01:03 AM:

pretty bad place to take the sample, all dialog but oh well...decent over-saturated pic and the sound is decent direct-input sound, or VERY GOOD cam sound...

8/8/<INFINITE>

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Posted by busipaln on 04-18-2004 01:07 AM:

SCORCH - "Sample looked and sounded great.. saw in the theatre yesterday, amazing stuff, can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!"

Tarantino has nothing to do with the production of HERO. I have this movie on Dvd already! Top notch film. Absolutely fantastic. Tranantino, has just bought the rights from miramax to release the uncut version, which im waiting for. This is a must see movie.


Posted by HaLiKuS on 04-18-2004 01:09 AM:

V 7 (It is a bright movie and could of been better)
A 8
M 8 (Because they took all the violence from the original script out)

All you need in a TS for a diologue driven film.
PS : "Hero" is just being released by QT, not directed, and has been "around" for awhile


Posted by Freeder on 04-18-2004 01:14 AM:

Wow.

For a moment, I actually thought this was a DVD rip. The color saturation and brightness were flawless, and the audio was pristine. No hiss, no.. no... no anything! I can't find a damn thing wrong. I can't WAIT to see this in theaters, it's going to be good. Everyone needs to get this!!!

My unbiased rating - 8/8/x, if not 9's. Wow. All I can say is wow.

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Posted by pHo on 04-18-2004 01:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorch
can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!


lol welcome to 2 years ago... click!

has fuck all to do with tarantino, just adding his name to things makes things sell.

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Posted by InfoH on 04-18-2004 01:25 AM:

nice picture, nice sound, no tilt angle noticed
one thing tho the colour appeared to be a bit redish
however that might be down to the actual scene in the film
havent downloaded the entire film yet only the sample

other than that tho
7.5/8/?


Posted by moviemang on 04-18-2004 01:30 AM:

quote:
Sample looked and sounded great.. saw in the theatre yesterday, amazing stuff, can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!

Believe it or not, Hero has already been about for a few years.


Posted by EmPreSS on 04-18-2004 01:38 AM:

There isn't really any action at all in vol. 2 anyway, so that scene is actually a decent choice for a sample. The only quick action is when Uma fights Daryl....

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Posted by lax01 on 04-18-2004 01:40 AM:

on top of that:

quote:
The color saturation and brightness were flawless


yeah its flawless except for its extremely over-exaggerated...

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Posted by crapper on 04-18-2004 02:16 AM:

sample checked
and
picture bit red but very nice 9
sound 7 maybe 6.5 why ?? theres this ring in it (high noise) that tcr has had more often..

cant say much more.. i just hope the sound isnt auto leveling its self like in the whole 10 yards.. cuase that really sucked


THIS U MUST KNOWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CD1 OK
CD2 AT THE END THE FILM TURNS BAD,. WHICH MEANS THE BOTTOM GETS ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN..
CD3 I THINK THE BITRATE IS TO HIGH.. I GET ALL SORTS OFF FLASHBACK SYNDROM STUFFF.....

SO CD2 AND CD3 ARENT 100% JUST SO U KNOW!!!!!

and the movie rocks
sound 8
picture 9
movie 9


Posted by Rolento on 04-18-2004 02:51 AM:

Thumbs up

good enuff.....


Posted by Porthos on 04-18-2004 03:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
lol welcome to 2 years ago... click!

has f**k all to do with tarantino, just adding his name to things makes things sell.



The only reason his name is going to be assosciated with it at all is because mirimax bought the rights for N. American distribution and just sat on it doing nothing. Tarantino wanted to see it reelase, unedited, etc and so he pitched it to mirimax and they agreed if he would be the one to present it.

So really, it's Mirimax that is the problem, it's not tarantino that is merely adding his name to create sales. He just wants to see it released in N. America, so he's working with Zhang Yimou to get it done...basically jsut doing what he did with Iron Monkey.

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Posted by pHo on 04-18-2004 03:24 AM:

i fucking despise miramax. i have nothing against tarantino putting his name on things, oliver stones done it before etc etc, its not really a new thing. hopefully at least this way it won't be cut, renamed, dubbed and edited with Bloodhound Gang playing "Yellow Fever" instead of the real theme*


* (a slight overexageration to the reality of miramax replacing the shaolin soccer theme with Kung-Fu Fighting. which is, pathetic. )

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Posted by es-mal-pass on 04-18-2004 03:58 AM:

is anyone else having any trouble with cd 2 ?
33 mins into cd2 and the movie freezes burnt 2 cd's and getting the same problem


Posted by inkjet on 04-18-2004 04:07 AM:

Props to TCR for being having the first Telesync, and a damn good one at that. Like everyone said, the color saturation is a little on the red/orange side, but the quality is almost flawless. Wondferul release!! Good job TCR, you've done it again.

8/8/?? based on previous reviews the movie sounds great, and the trailers seem very good as well.

Maybe I'll sound like a newb for this ... but why is the motion to streaky? Is it because of the framerate? It's like this on most of the telesycns i've seen, but i never really understood. It's the trail of something fast moving, if that helps.


Posted by MorganNY on 04-18-2004 04:37 AM:

I watched this release.. super quality. I wondered about the choice of scene for the sample. tcr usually makes a great selection there. but after seeing the whole movie, some was in black and white, much was dark and anything later would have been a spoiler. kudos tcr
8.5/8.5/8.5


Posted by K-FurY on 04-18-2004 05:44 AM:

from scanning abit through cd1, this looks pretty nice, opening b&w scene is very bluish, but other then the sometimes funky colors vid is pretty good. not too much is cropped, its on a slight, slight angle judging from the opening credits, but other then that the video above average. tcr seems to be always inconsistent with their audio from release to release, this one has decent audio, quiet scenes (like the sample) sound great, but soon as it starts to get loud, u get the high pitched, weird interference that some ts's have. overall it is good audio tho, not bad, but not great (videocd releases). movie, i saw in theatres yesterday, and it was awesome leaps better then the first, can't wait to finish picking up the rest of this, dieing to watch this movie again.

8/7.5/10


Posted by bcool2k on 04-18-2004 05:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorch
Sample looked and sounded great.. saw in the theatre yesterday, amazing stuff, can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!

7/8/10



hate to break it to ya Scorch, but Hero has been out for over a year in Japan. Its good but not great.. One on the best one on one fights between two kung fu masters Donnie Yen and Jet Li.. Movie was a let down. Check it out officially at YesAsia.com or wait for the sure to be awful dubbed rls...Thought u might wanna know lata


Posted by bcool2k on 04-18-2004 05:54 AM:

Very Nice indeed TCR.. I too saw this one in theatres and was like its gonna take a good group to pull this one off.. The pic is very good a lil bit Orange in color, but pretty good none the less. I didn't have the audio hiss, but might be because i burned it to watch back to back with my Import Unrated...As for the movie, it was ok.. I liked 1 for the Action and 2 for the story.. Not enuff fights for all the hype,but good none the less.. Glad to see you are back TCR.. Not your best, but certainly in your TOP 10..Now how bout the Punisher..Hint, Hint.. Enjoy this Awesome 3CD TS..True fans its worth a look in theatres.. Nice too watch em at home back to back though Enjoy!!!!


8/8/8


Posted by Cwluc on 04-18-2004 06:02 AM:

Great job TCR doesn't matter who wins the race as long as your copy looks this good. Saw this movie last night, hopeing this copy has the bloopers at the end.. or maybe someone could tell me cuase I had to walk out early from the movies. Great Audio, the color slightly off but nothing stopping you from watching it. 8/8/10


Posted by djj on 04-18-2004 06:13 AM:

Nice quality indeed, I don't have much to add to previous people's opinions. Yes, video is very clear and audio's the same. Excellent flick, too.

8/7/9

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Posted by KrackZaa on 04-18-2004 06:41 AM:

after watching the full release, i must say that it is impressive. i did not think that this good a release would be available so quickly, with the scene being what it is of late. im not sure but on the end of cd2 the screen gets like split up or something, like the bottom part of the movie is at top, its really weird, im wondering if its in the actual movie or what? movie itself was great, i loved it, the series was a great one.

8.5/8.5/10

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Posted by xboxfanz on 04-18-2004 06:52 AM:

Props to TCR for the timing and quality of the release. Great job TCR! Movie was great as well

8.5/8.5/9


Posted by BloodyGrape on 04-18-2004 07:47 AM:

*from sample*

pic is nice, oversaturated but fine, fairly sharp and strong detail. slight angle, but nothing to write home about. sound is passable, well better than that. the only complaint is a bit of hollowness, and some high pitch whine. nothing a reasonable fiddling with equalizer cant fix. movie itself blows part one away, and indeed stands as a great film in its own right. go see it in theatres first, then grab this copy. I'd say this will be good nuff till a dvd rip, passing any vhs screeners right by.

I wish they didnt choose this scene for the sample, it kinda gives some stuff away. but whatever.

very gj TCR.

8/7/9

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Posted by sandvic on 04-18-2004 12:25 PM:

Where are the flashback scenes with Uma and David in the village? Miramax decided to leave them out of the cinema version?


Posted by Vertrif on 04-18-2004 12:55 PM:

6/8/10.. i don't understand how people vote.. this release video does not deserve an 8.. that is just way too high, espceially if the video is sooo blue the first 17 min of the movie, but you see a guy in pure colour walking in the theatre.. it's just insane... the audio however is amazing....

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Posted by kokukola on 04-18-2004 01:01 PM:

what a great release. sound is great, video is great and the movie rocks. This will do nicely till DVDR. 8/8/9


Posted by fortuyn on 04-18-2004 02:34 PM:

Whats 'insane' voor a Telesync release?


Posted by Virii2012 on 04-18-2004 02:52 PM:

Credits

in the middle of grabbing this right now, judgin by sample nice video and good audio, can anybody tell me if this release has the credits or if they're cut off

7/8/? (Although I'm sure its going to be great)


Posted by KrackZaa on 04-18-2004 03:04 PM:

the credits are there, at least through the part where they show all the characters including those from the first movie, and their real names.

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Posted by nitemare on 04-18-2004 03:43 PM:

8/8/8

Sound near perfect.
Picture- mostly well done..except for beginning..colors messed up..Also, somehwere in the middle when she leaves her car, the cam cut the picture in half...but was soon corrected...Overall, though nice picture..
Movie was better than 1st. Actually had a story to it...not all fighting..

Overall, very well done TCR..grab this release..its all ya need..


Posted by Clessy on 04-18-2004 06:35 PM:

Very solid release 7(the highest any TS should ever be givin)/7/10

Not the best TS ever but since the movie is rather dark throught most of the movie beside when shes training it would be rather hard to capture the depth of the detail.

I have to say I loved volume 1 but volume 2 is even better.
I cant wait till a DVD screener comes out. Then I will be able to edit and cut it all down to 1 full movie without parts.

Anyways go see it in theaters and then grab this release untill there is a dvd screen or maybe a Japanese Telecine.


Posted by jeex on 04-18-2004 06:39 PM:

people are voting this too high.

its an above average TS with good sound.

during the opening scene the colors (what few there were) were washed out and a bit too bright, you can see them trying to adjust the camera throughout the scene.

the rest of the movie looked okay.

in a later scene in the movie where the picture was kinda split, this is an obvoius theater fuckup.. i dont think tarrentino would try to do something like that to be "cool", when its obviously retarded.

like almost everyone else has said, great audio. i have no complaints.

there is room for improvement, but not until a screener or dvdrip comes out.

this was a pretty good movie, not as good as the first volume (which was awesome), but it was definetly NOT a let down.


Posted by ricanbrazer on 04-18-2004 06:53 PM:

8/8/10


Posted by stevensly on 04-18-2004 07:30 PM:

Thumbs up

Wow, very nice release!
The video is neatly cropped and kinda bright in some scenes
The audio, imo, is kinda hollow and there is a slight hiss? But other than that, this is great!

A7/V8/M? - only have 1st CD )8


Posted by firefighter on 04-18-2004 10:03 PM:

The First 20 posts are dumb on this , time to get my two bits in. This is far from a "flawless" TS , "Best" TS , and all the other raves about this copy. This kinda reminds me of Centropys passion of the christ but worse.

1) The Colors fade in & out , get reddish tint now and then, colors are constant changing.
2) Guy walks infront of the screen 3 mins into the movie and face is so clear i could pick him outta a lineup in local supermarket.
3) Copy is cropped.
4) CD2 for 6 minutes the Picture Splits into half, the bottom of the Screen is on the top , top is on the bottom.
5) sound was screwed.

This is far from a nice TS & could easily be propered , Props to TCR for the fast release but definatly not a keeper.

4/8/9

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Posted by dakiller on 04-18-2004 10:54 PM:

I agree with firefighter entirely

4/6/8

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Posted by brummybloke on 04-19-2004 12:32 AM:

not sure if most people who posted have actualy watch the movie all the way through but disk 3 has quite a lot of slow down on it, disk 2 does have the 2 parts of the screen upsidedown but i think that is part of the movie.

sound is very good for this sort of release.

film itself is a big let down, loved the first one but this was shit.

fell asleep 3 times on disk 1 it was that boring.

video 5
sound 7
film 4


Posted by ownzya on 04-19-2004 01:28 AM:

lets just hope this movie is better then the first one hehe :P


Posted by I am X on 04-19-2004 01:32 AM:

First, Iwill report all glitches that I observed:

1. First few minutes of movie, some guy walks across the screen.

2. During first 5 minutes of film during flashback scene, color was blue, then was color corrected to proper black and white.

3. In middle of CD2, screen splits in half for a tad over 3 minutes, then is corrected.

4. I seem to be the ONLY one to report this, but CD3 is choppy. Frame rate drops from 29.97 fps to what appears to be about 15 to 18 fps. Wasn't my encoder. I double checked the settings. Upon checking CD3, it even reports to be encoded at 29.97fps, yet it is quite choppy.

5. End credits have people getting up and covering the screen during showing of cast members from parts 1 and 2.

With all the above said, this was still a GOOD quality release. The only thing that really bothered me was the drop of fps during CD3. Other than that, I thought the release as a whole was GREAT in quality. OH! and I forgot to mention that the sound was a bit on the tinny sounding side, but that didn't bother me at all.

- Video 7 (would have been a 8.5 were it not for the choppiness of CD3.

- Audio 7

- Movie 7 (I know I'm in the minority for saying this, but I liked the first one BETTER).

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Posted by xDRUNKx on 04-19-2004 02:13 AM:

To avoid confusion someone should mention how Hero isn't a Tarantino movie, that it's not new, and that it's already been released and is out on DVD.


Posted by ShadyInc on 04-19-2004 05:08 AM:

Another good TCR release.

7/8/?


Posted by AAjax on 04-19-2004 05:43 AM:

Well, very watchable.
That said I would give it a 7/8/8

Video on first disk is a 6 but picks up near the end.


Posted by mod[e] on 04-19-2004 06:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorch
Sample looked and sounded great.. saw in the theatre yesterday, amazing stuff, can't wait for Tarantino's new movie, "Hero".. Tarantino and Jet Li? Yes sir!

7/8/10



hehe the movie "Hero" is old...hhehe i had the dvd like a year ago!! =) anyways the movie is pretty aiite not better than part 1....

7.3/8/6

i prefer part 1 alot better =)

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Posted by trtlpwr on 04-19-2004 07:36 AM:

Just got the movie, been waiting for this one, hopefully it's going to be a good one ^^

from sample:
7/8


Posted by Leigh^ on 04-19-2004 08:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by I am X
First, Iwill report all glitches that I observed:

1. First few minutes of movie, some guy walks across the screen.

2. During first 5 minutes of film during flashback scene, color was blue, then was color corrected to proper black and white.

3. In middle of CD2, screen splits in half for a tad over 3 minutes, then is corrected.

4. I seem to be the ONLY one to report this, but CD3 is choppy. Frame rate drops from 29.97 fps to what appears to be about 15 to 18 fps. Wasn't my encoder. I double checked the settings. Upon checking CD3, it even reports to be encoded at 29.97fps, yet it is quite choppy.

5. End credits have people getting up and covering the screen during showing of cast members from parts 1 and 2.

With all the above said, this was still a GOOD quality release. The only thing that really bothered me was the drop of fps during CD3. Other than that, I thought the release as a whole was GREAT in quality. OH! and I forgot to mention that the sound was a bit on the tinny sounding side, but that didn't bother me at all.

- Video 7 (would have been a 8.5 were it not for the choppiness of CD3.

- Audio 7

- Movie 7 (I know I'm in the minority for saying this, but I liked the first one BETTER).



I had the exact same problem with this when testing it out, however it was fine on my other computer, and fine on my standalone.


Posted by Leigh^ on 04-19-2004 08:57 AM:

Stupid cunting double post.


Posted by bgspoonz on 04-19-2004 09:34 AM:

9/9/?

Just saw the sample. Good work, nice TS! Early... Good Quality... no need for any other releases!


Posted by Hejkal11 on 04-19-2004 12:25 PM:

This was fucking nice to be so fast! Nice movie, I liked vol.1 better though :} But this one is also awesome! A little blurry and some color issues, but pretty good looking TS!

8/8/8


Posted by stevensly on 04-19-2004 05:08 PM:

For the person asking about the credits, they do end right at Uma Thurman's name.
The split screen affect on the 2nd cd, was that intentional?


Posted by php on 04-19-2004 05:42 PM:

Wonderful movie and good video and audio quality:

video - 7. I noticed, however, some problems. First, WMP and MPC took ages to open the vcds, about which I couldn't care less, cause my Hollywood+ software opened and played the videocds without probs. But if somebody hasn't got a dvd player or a hardware mpeg decoder, he might have a problem.

Also something is totally wrong with the aspect ratio. This is not a problem, if you watch this release on tv, or if you are using a player that can correct the ratio, but it might cause problems, and that's just because the groups just can't learn how to encode properly. Here's a screenshot showing the wrong aspect ratio of this release:

http://membres.lycos.fr/julieborette/files/bill2.JPG

audio - 8 (audio volume is too low)

Movie itself is just GREAT! my rating is 10. It's Tarantino at his best. Vol.2 is much better than vol.1


Posted by Lloyd Braun on 04-19-2004 07:02 PM:

Blue and white was odd at start, but best rls so far, will do till screener

7/8/10


Posted by snow12 on 04-19-2004 07:11 PM:

Cd2 freezing?

Anyone figure out why cd2 freezes and how to fix this?


Posted by Justin_Case on 04-19-2004 08:59 PM:

not bad with a color modification, first blue then red, although i love how the bottom is the top towards the end, but all that aside its a pretty decent TS


V:6 w/color mod 7.5
A:8
M:10

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Posted by Cory on 04-19-2004 09:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
4/8/9


wtf...are you on crack, usually I agree with most of your posts...and I agree with everything you said but the video is not a 4 on this ts.

and the whole screen being flipped thing is only for a couple mins (which you said) but its not like its a very important scene...and this could easily be propered by who?


Posted by electrik on 04-19-2004 10:33 PM:

Video is kind of blue in the beginning. I have yet to see it in theaters, so I am not sure if it's supposed to be. And a man stands up in the beginning right in front of the movie for a second of two, but other than that the movie looks great playing off my dvd player. Other than that, the sound is excellent, and the video quality is very good. An excellent TS in my opinion.

Video: 7.5 (for the blue tint, and slight blur in the beginning scenes)

Audio: 8.5

Movie: ??


Posted by firefighter on 04-19-2004 11:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cory
wtf...are you on crack, usually I agree with most of your posts...and I agree with everything you said but the video is not a 4 on this ts.
...and this could easily be propered by who?



The pic if f0ked throught the whole movie. Why would i give it a high rating cause their TCR? pffff.

Dunno , more then 2 VCD grps in "the scene" so got another 15 - 25 grps (guessing) able to proper this movie as its popular.

Reasons to proper: Contrast is f0ked + colors , CD2 screen flip for 6 mins , all CAMs/TS are cropped yes but this is super Cropped, and this copy has mic'ish sound rather then DTS.

All look/sound good enough proper reasons to me.

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Posted by firefighter on 04-20-2004 12:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cory
...and this could easily be propered by who?


HA ! Kill.Bill.Vol.2.PROPER.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD

pffff dumbass.

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Posted by Lloyd Braun on 04-20-2004 12:47 AM:

quote:
has fuck all to do with tarantino, just adding his name to things makes things sell.


Actually, it's nice to see he's using the money to bring the movie stateside, seeing as no one else had.

About the nukage, is it because of the 2.5 cds?


Posted by Clessy on 04-20-2004 01:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
HA ! Kill.Bill.Vol.2.PROPER.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD

pffff dumbass.

Is that a real proper or did you just make that up? However if you did make it up I still wouldnt be suprised.


Posted by Bradleyko on 04-20-2004 01:31 AM:

yes its a real proper....


quote:
º Release Notes... º
º º
º Lets Start With ReasonS For Proper º
º º
º 1. You Can CLEARLY See Peoples Faces And Heads º
º 2. Audio Obviously NOT DIRECT, Seems Mic'ed º
º 3. There is a period of MINUTES where the screen is split due º
º to the film not being centered (half of bottom on top, º
º and half of top on bottom º
º 4. Colors in the B&W Scenes Are Blue And White, Faces Red º
º Not To Mention The Overall Terrible Color Changes and Colors º
º In General. º
º 5. 2.5 CDS ? Well 3 Full CDS Enjoy.



Posted by zangano on 04-20-2004 02:20 AM:

quote:
[i] First, WMP and MPC took ages to open the vcds, about which I couldn't care less.




WMP sucks for mpeg2 playback that is not on DVD, almost any svcd will have problems with it, try another player.

powerdvd even or you hollywood something.


Posted by Debo on 04-20-2004 02:24 AM:

try VLC media player
its good shit

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Posted by frak on 04-20-2004 02:34 AM:

watched this on the TV last night.


First ratings:

Video: 7.5 - sharp picture, but the contrast is a bit blown out.
audio: 8 - clear, no hiss and didn't sound 'tiny'
movie - 5


I don't get the attraction to this movie. I was bored to tears
with vol2 as I was with vol2. There some indoor kid thing
going on with this movies that people love so much? I don't
see it.


Posted by Clessy on 04-20-2004 02:48 AM:

Did there proper come with a sample? picture...


Posted by RUiNU on 04-20-2004 03:14 AM:

The realease was done pretty good 6.5/7/2 . Yah thats right a 2 I hated this movie and the first one for that matter. But about the quality it was fine . the blue insdead of blak and white didnt bother me . the sound was good (no hiss or laughter). The thing I liked the most about this realease was that I could fast-forward this peace of shit excuse for a movie and only waist an hour of my life not 2 .

BTW no need for proper this is fine.


Posted by Cory on 04-20-2004 03:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
The pic if f0ked throught the whole movie. Why would i give it a high rating cause their TCR? pffff.

Dunno , more then 2 VCD grps in "the scene" so got another 15 - 25 grps (guessing) able to proper this movie as its popular.

Reasons to proper: Contrast is f0ked + colors , CD2 screen flip for 6 mins , all CAMs/TS are cropped yes but this is super Cropped, and this copy has mic'ish sound rather then DTS.

All look/sound good enough proper reasons to me.



hah, don't I feel like a horse's patoot

anyways, I'm happy with this release...a blue, white, and black scene didn't bother me, and a few minutes with the screen flipped in a short dialog didn't either...anyways I still believe the video on this ts is no 4 (and no im not saying that just because its tcr...I think I'd feel the same way if it were ftf) and props to videocd on the release...

btw why doesn't vcdq post videocd releases anymore...they haven't posted their last 4 or 5 releases


Posted by PuFFFaTTy on 04-20-2004 03:41 AM:

wtf is going on? why was this movie nuked? i watched the whole film today and it was exceptional. the monochrome scenes were a little bit bright, and the final chapter had some funky camera work for the first 2 or 3 min....but overall this was a really great rls. whos smokin what around here?

8/8.5/9

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Posted by PLUGTOP on 04-20-2004 03:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by I am X
First, Iwill report all glitches that I observed:

1. First few minutes of movie, some guy walks across the screen.

2. During first 5 minutes of film during flashback scene, color was blue, then was color corrected to proper black and white.

3. In middle of CD2, screen splits in half for a tad over 3 minutes, then is corrected.

4. I seem to be the ONLY one to report this, but CD3 is choppy. Frame rate drops from 29.97 fps to what appears to be about 15 to 18 fps. Wasn't my encoder. I double checked the settings. Upon checking CD3, it even reports to be encoded at 29.97fps, yet it is quite choppy.

5. End credits have people getting up and covering the screen during showing of cast members from parts 1 and 2.

With all the above said, this was still a GOOD quality release. The only thing that really bothered me was the drop of fps during CD3. Other than that, I thought the release as a whole was GREAT in quality. OH! and I forgot to mention that the sound was a bit on the tinny sounding side, but that didn't bother me at all.

- Video 7 (would have been a 8.5 were it not for the choppiness of CD3.

- Audio 7

- Movie 7 (I know I'm in the minority for saying this, but I liked the first one BETTER).



Is there two releases of this version, the one I have is 25fps throughout the three CDs


Posted by nolimit966 on 04-20-2004 04:03 AM:

probably because it was labeled as a TELESYNC when really it was a cam, maybe it was the shaky camera that gave it away i dont know.
is this better than volume 1?

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Posted by _sK_4_lyfe_ on 04-20-2004 04:50 AM:

id say picture had some issues with the flipping over and all
other than that everything was fine
7 / 9 / 7.5


Posted by [DRIVER] on 04-20-2004 05:10 AM:

TCR's release was good qulaity, and very watchable, except for the black and white scenes, those sucked, no reason to get the proper if you already watched TCR's release... wait for the DVD...

6/6/6


Posted by K-FurY on 04-20-2004 05:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PuFFFaTTy
wtf is going on? why was this movie nuked? i watched the whole film today and it was exceptional. the monochrome scenes were a little bit bright, and the final chapter had some funky camera work for the first 2 or 3 min....but overall this was a really great rls. whos smokin what around here?

8/8.5/9



nuked because videocd proper is out


Posted by mannix on 04-20-2004 05:58 AM:

quote:

I don't get the attraction to this movie. I was bored to tears
with vol2. as I was with vol2. There some indoor kid thing going on with this movies that people love so much? I don't
see it. [/B]


LOL! so if it was so boring in your opinion (and you're the only one...) why would you watch part 2.... So now i have to ask; if you stick your hand in a fire and it burns you, do you stick it in again?? ROFL... and if you don't get the movie, then maybe you should stick to stuart little and the other Disney type kids flicks because it's incredibly apparent that grown up movies are a little too complex for your tiny under-developed childs brain of yours...you're "sir", (and i use the term very loosely) are a moron...

Rating from sample:
7/6/10
-GREAT MOVIE!!
-low quality release for TCR


Posted by EmPreSS on 04-20-2004 12:03 PM:

I only give a fuck about a FUCKING PROPER if the actual "proper" is worth a shit n lick!!!!

TCR can maybe proper this rls again! Or maybe videocd... show us a real Kill BiLL vol.2 proper with good quality all the way through....

Try again! Please. Because this rls is shit compared to other TCR ts rls's. Still, I can't complain.... even though I want to very much!!! TCR has proven to be a great ts rls group, but this one was a downer imo.

5/7/8

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Posted by moguth on 04-20-2004 01:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by php


Also something is totally wrong with the aspect ratio. This is not a problem, if you watch this release on tv, or if you are using a player that can correct the ratio, but it might cause problems, and that's just because the groups just can't learn how to encode properly. Here's a screenshot showing the wrong aspect ratio of this release:

http://membres.lycos.fr/julieborette/files/bill2.JPG





there is nothing wrong with the AR - it´s in PAL not NTSC
(pal: 480x576, NTSC 480x480)

i think the tcr rls is good - not the best - but good
there are shittier releases than this

to all cellar raters: make it better or shut up


Posted by Al13 on 04-20-2004 02:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bradleyko
yes its a real proper....




forgot to mention this at the end of the proper reasons

Special Thanks To : GERMANY ~ WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


looks like good old germany is doing a major move on a major movie rls, dunno what exactly it will be, but something is in the making


Posted by iGotLaid_off on 04-20-2004 03:51 PM:

This rls is def good. watched it last night on xbox with friends

pic- 8, for the most part sharp but will blurr out for a few seconds here and there. Contrast off alittle bit as said already.

audio- 7, decent but nothing exceptional

movie- 8.5 not as much action. more dialog but none the less an awesome storyline in all.

overall this rls was put out fast and yes there are a few mishaps but stop bitching people. props to whoever capped this. your work is appreciated.


Posted by seanoell on 04-20-2004 04:29 PM:

great awesome quality good movie 2 9/9/10


Posted by vcduk2000 on 04-20-2004 05:15 PM:

a note for the repack

the scene with the old guy(japanese martial arts expert( i cant remember what the scene is called) kicking the shit out of the bride ....well, 90% of the scene is subbed...in the first release the subs are in english

the repack the subs are in french........hmmm not good

but the release is actually bang on

a little too bright but fantastic sound


Posted by Roger on 04-20-2004 05:19 PM:

maybe its not same source ? huh ...

VideoCD is awesome source.


Posted by vcduk2000 on 04-20-2004 06:09 PM:

i know its an awesome source

but like i said

the whole scene has subs and it is quite important to the scene that you can read the subs

its been 15 years since i was at school and learned french so im a bit rusty on it.....english subs are a must for this scene

other than that, the copy is brilliant

many thanks


Posted by peevuto on 04-20-2004 06:15 PM:

Subs are in french? hmmmmm... what cd is that scene on? At what timestamp within the movie?


Posted by djj on 04-20-2004 06:34 PM:

What on earth are talking about? There are no french subs in this release?! Or are you talking about VideoCD proper?

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Posted by ownzya on 04-20-2004 06:48 PM:

this rls looked just fine on my pc just the last chapter oh well it was still a good movie :P


Posted by dalton4life on 04-20-2004 07:16 PM:

Nuked because (I think) there is a glitch at 41.44 of CD2 that causes it to lock up for about 8 minutes if you try to re enocde with with TMPGenc which often do. I don't know if it effects watching the Disc on a stand alone player or not. I was able to watch the video on my PC in Windvd without the lock up but not with Media Player. EO Video seems to be able to handle it though. It sounded like a high pitch pop.

On the released other than that good but not great. Nice but colors are a little funky and oversaturated and it's too contrasted. Audio has the buzz many TS rls have these days.

8/8/? (Will watch it all after I can put it all together on a DVD-R)

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Posted by XXXBoX on 04-20-2004 07:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by djj
What on earth are talking about? There are no french subs in this release?! Or are you talking about VideoCD proper?


I think he is confused bcoz the VideoCD proper has French subs! SO unless your french or can understand french this is the rls to get!

XXX


Posted by firefighter on 04-20-2004 07:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dalton4life
(I think) there is a glitch at 41.44 of CD2 that causes it to lock up for about 8 minutes if you try to re enocde with with TMPGenc which often do.


If your talking about VideoCD's proper i noticed that too - i couldnt encode CD1 or CD2 from mpeg2 > mpeg1 , encoded a few mins then TMPGenc locked up on me and gave me "not responding" errors. I thought it was just me ...

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Posted by Joppo on 04-20-2004 09:22 PM:

I thought this release was bloody damn good. Granted the B&W scenes are sometimes

blue and the colours go iffy now and then. Its still a nice release and I a fricken

good movie aswell

7/7/8


Posted by keebler on 04-20-2004 11:07 PM:

nuked why? this is a verry good relese.. black and white a little bright but the rest is great

8 video
8 audio
7 movie


Posted by Haku on 04-20-2004 11:11 PM:

Release is alright ,blue at begining for abit but fixes after that ,colour don't go bad that much ,think it went bad only a few times in the whole film and not for long.

Screen split is not that bad don't last for to long.

Also about the video cd release ,how can that be a proper for this ,haveing french or german subs in a large chunk of the film when the film is english audio is worse than having the screen split for a while.


Posted by moguth on 04-20-2004 11:17 PM:

i had the same lockup problem with TMPGenc
i reencoded it with mainconcepts mpeg encoder - without any problems - and pretty fast (2pass - mpeg2 - 480x576 - around 4 hours and the movie fits on 2 cd´s)


Posted by firefighter on 04-20-2004 11:29 PM:

TCR Copy = *Nuked*: See list of reasons why in previous posts - lots of errors.
VideoCD's PROPER = *Nuked* Out of Sync and 20 minutes of Subtitles are French.

Wait for REAL.PROPER or Screener my suggestion.

Or go with the CAM that hasnt been nuked yet

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Posted by ownzya on 04-21-2004 12:12 AM:

pshhhhhh the TCR was just fine lol even if it was nuked it looked just peachie :P


Posted by Stuart49 on 04-21-2004 01:35 AM:

Just watched whole movie..Top Quality TS...

Video 8
Audio 8
Movie 8


Posted by X400 on 04-21-2004 04:51 AM:

looks good perfect timing for the uncut vol1 to come out
7.5/8/?

and HERO is one of the worst movies ive ever seen almost worse then crouching tiger, almost


Posted by keebler on 04-21-2004 04:52 AM:

no errors on my copy all looked good only thing was the 3 cds.. even put this on dvd for a friend encoded just fine and yes ive watched the whole movie it didnt have any errors


Posted by BLUE-NEO on 04-21-2004 06:41 AM:

sucks that the videocd version has french subs. otherwise it looked amazing in quality. and the sound was damn near perfect.

but the tcr version should be nuked. I'm ashamed to even send my parents their copy. I told them just go to the movies and keep it deep in thought, because this is not a keeper...too many flaws.
The guy walking through the picture and too much color. But when I got to disc 2 and the screen flipped I said f..k it. Couldn't enjoy it.

5/7/10 TCR version

8/9/10 Videocd version... Video gets an eight because of the french subs. would have been a 9, because it looks that good.

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Posted by Phi on 04-21-2004 08:18 AM:

Very Nice Release Def The One To Get... Unless you speak french & if so you proably already surrendered

Little bluish during the beginning B&W scene and seems to have a brightness & color saturation. CD2 has a short time with the bottom of the scene wrap'd to the top. Direct Audio is very nice. Props to TCR

7/9/7.5


Posted by SilentAssassi on 04-21-2004 09:07 AM:

Thats the only problem with the VideoCD releases. The Video and sound on them are perfect, some of the best TS work I have seen, but if a movie has subtitles in it, then you are fcuked if you don't understand french.

Just got this TCR release, the saturation I can fix, just turn it down with avisynth before encoding to DVDmpeg2, the blue and white instead of black and white I am not really bothered about, as long as the picture is watchable then thats all that matters.


Posted by jfdkiller on 04-21-2004 09:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by keebler
no errors on my copy all looked good only thing was the 3 cds.. even put this on dvd for a friend encoded just fine and yes ive watched the whole movie it didnt have any errors


How strange. Everybody elses copy suffers the framing problem for several minutes at the start of "The Last Chapter". You must be special... or maybe you fell asleep while watching and didn't realise.


Posted by LOLobo on 04-21-2004 10:10 AM:

Just finished whole rls.

Nuked or not...

Quality not bad, just the glitches become annoying, which really is just color issues and the 3min screen split... what can you do about the giant walking accross the screen for two seconds at the beginning?

Regardless, I'd rather have this version where I can read the subs, really needed during "The Bride's" training. Quality is good enough to hold me until a screener comes out. No real motion blur during the action, no sound issues. Nuked = BS. I seen FTF get away with non-nuked crap 10x worse than this.

Not to say that this is up to par with what TCR was releasing when they debuted . . . however, take away the screen split on CD2 and fix the color, and it pretty much looks like the old TCR.

6 (because of short screen split and colors)
8 (No issues with it)
9 (Just wanted a longer fight with Bill, rating is based on vol1 & 2 together, neither is better than the other, it's a continuation of the same damn story.)


Posted by CTP Fan on 04-21-2004 01:12 PM:

A lot of things wrong with this release which have already been mentioned and debated. I would like to know why the VideoCD proper release isn't on this site yet.


Posted by cwg on 04-21-2004 01:33 PM:

7/7/?


this is from the SAMPLE, im downloading now. from the sample it looks very good in quality. i always take other revies with a grain of salt. there is no inbetween on this board, you either got release purist where basically nothing is good enough for them or you have the exact opposite, people flaming the boards with outragous ratings. sometimes without even watching the movie! in any event. we should all be greatful for the hard work people put into this for our enjoyment. dont take ANY release for granted...


Posted by firefighter on 04-21-2004 03:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CTP Fan
I would like to know why the VideoCD proper release isn't on this site yet.


Cause a few grps like VideoCD , HafVCD ... asked vcdquality to not list their movies. Why? Your guess is as good as mine. Mabey its because people dont read their nfo & send 1000 emails to them a day "How do i download your movie?" , "Would you like to join us here?".

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Posted by dalton4life on 04-21-2004 04:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by I am X
First, Iwill report all glitches that I observed:

1. First few minutes of movie, some guy walks across the screen....



Is it me or was that the clearest a guy getting up and walking across the screen has ever been shown? It guess it goes to show the quality of TCR's camera crew.

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Posted by BiggD23 on 04-21-2004 05:46 PM:

WHY WHY WHY do groups release a "PROPER" with the wrong language subtitles? That's just terrible. I'm 90% done downloading it so I might as well let it finish at this point but talk about a waste of 2.3GB worth of bandwidth. Just label it correctly in the first place and alot of people, including myself, will skip right over it. That way everyone wins...people that still want it can get it quicker and people that don't want fucking french subtitles don't waste their time.

The TCF release is very good IMO. Yes, the color gets blue in some parts and the screen flips for a few minutes but it's nothing that prevents you from following the storyline. Especially if you already paid your $8 to see it in the theater like I did.


Posted by BiggD23 on 04-21-2004 06:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nolimit966
probably because it was labeled as a TELESYNC when really it was a cam, maybe it was the shaky camera that gave it away i dont know.
is this better than volume 1?



You obviously didn't even watch the movie...you're asking if it was better than volume 1 but yet you comment on the camera being shaky? Which by the way it isn't...the camera is perfectly still for the entire movie. There's no way that this wasn't a TS...you don't hear so much as a cough or a laugh for the entire 2+ hours. As someone who saw it in the theater, I can tell you that there were plenty of parts where people laughed out loud. Besides...even if no one laughed...try to record any 2+ hour movie without someone in the audience coughing...it won't happen.

Try knowing what you're talking about before you post. The opinions of someone who hasn't even seen the movie or the release in question are about as useful as an asshole right here <points to elbow>. And guess what...that line will make sense once you see the movie too!


Posted by peevuto on 04-21-2004 06:55 PM:

So what sites post the VideoCD proper for rating?


Posted by arx on 04-21-2004 07:38 PM:

first off, the 3 flaws:

1. blue'n'white screen in the first 15-30 minutes: a bit annoying at first when you know its supposed to be B'n'W, but then again, blue'n'white is better than it being in red'n'white, green'n'white ect.
not saying that its 100% okay, but its the lesser of evils if you know what i mean...

2. guy walking across screen: Really i think this is a flaw that can be overlooked very easily, since it only last 1-2 secs. and as lolobo21 pointed out, its not really anything you can blame TCR for.

3. split screen for about 3 min at end of CD2: this is the big one, very annoying, especially because the rest of the rls is such high quality(if you, like me, can ignore flaws 1 & 2).
Again im not sure if you can actually blame TCR for this, as ive seen this happen at lot of times in theateres, especially in small local ones, where the projector goes apeshit and does a split-screen verticaly(as is the case here) og horizontaly.
of course this is only my personal little theory

last but not least, the rating:
A: 8
V: 8 = 9 if it not for the 3 flaws
M: 9 = with the Kill Bill films Tarentino has made a masterpiece to match Pulp Fiction.


Posted by sherl0k on 04-21-2004 10:00 PM:

Gahhh such nitpicking on movies. Okay, so there are a few flaws here and there. You see a guy standing up 3 minutes in. Sure. For about the first 10 minutes there's a blue tint. Alright. Be happy you're dealing with a release this quick, and with ONLY these small errors. Need I remind you all of LOTR3?

I've had no problems burning this. You guys are just idiots when it comes to making VCDs and SVCDs.

I rate this an 8/8/8. For the small flaws this movie has, it's fucking AMAZING. And I really don't understand where VideoCD gets the idea of the audio sounding like a mic... It's fucking crisp and clear. No hissing or buzzing.


Posted by BiggD23 on 04-21-2004 10:34 PM:

I had a chance to compare TCF's CD1 to VideoCD's CD1 and all I can say is that TCF's is still better *even with* the blue tint at the beginning and temporary split screen in the middle. Here's why:

- First of all, the entire VCD release is *full* of blocks and rectangles of pixelation. I played it straight from the bin to confirm that it wasn't my mpeg encoder and they are in the bin too in the exact same spots. For anyone who cares to see what I'm talking about...skip about 15 minutes or so into CD1...right to the part where Budd gets sent home by his boss for being late. Watch the entire scene in his boss's office...the pixelation is terrible. And we're not even talking high motion scenes here folks...just 2 people in an office having a conversation.

- Video quality and AR are basically identical. If it wasn't for the random and frequent pixelation in the VCD release you couldn't tell the difference between the two.

- Ditto the sound. Both were obviously direct, no difference in quality whatsoever.

So my (rhetorical) question is...how do you release a PROPER that if anything is worse than the original and then talk shit in the nfo file? Don't waste your time on this one...another group will surely be doing a PROPER of this "PROPER" because it needs it. The only reason to get this one is if you are impatient like I am and maybe wanted to try cutting the blue beginning part and the part that splits from the TCF release and merging those scenes from this release in. I plan to do that tonight...who knows if it will line up right and look good but we'll see.

I'm not hating on VideoCD...I appreciate any contributions to the scene and they have had some good releases. This just isnt one of them.

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Posted by BLUE-NEO on 04-21-2004 11:16 PM:

why do you keep saying tcf ....its TCR...and I think something is wrong with the software you use. Because the Videocd version didn't have any pixelation. Get your pc fixed or find better conversion software. Only flaw with the Videocd version was the subs being french. I've had it for 2 days. And its beyond perfect if not for the subs issue. Stop lying about pixelation. Played fine all the way through. Maybe if you would have combined all three mpegs2's and burned to a dvd you'd know that. No pixelation.

Either way

TCR not TCF *Nuked for many reasons.
Videocd *Nuked because of subs only!

overall we need another release without flaws, but Centropy hasn't stepped up. Matine and Fujitive are far from being seen for anything useful. And logistic please!!! They need not try! Half their sh.t is fullscreen and way over cropped.

Just wait for a screener or dvdrip and pay 8.50 to see it. And STFU about these two. All releases so far are useless.Taratino is worth 8.50 and so is this movie.

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Posted by Clessy on 04-22-2004 12:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
Cause a few grps like VideoCD , HafVCD ... asked vcdquality to not list their movies. Why? Your guess is as good as mine. Mabey its because people dont read their nfo & send 1000 emails to them a day "How do i download your movie?" , "Would you like to join us here?".
Man that really sucks because this is the only site I go to to check quality. I wish you all could come up with a compremise to VideoCD there a really awsome group.


Posted by havoc on 04-22-2004 12:50 AM:

?

The copy I have isn't cropped, has no split screen deal, and no people standing up in a theatre. I didn't look at the release group but I thought it was this one? Ah well, if you guys are interested there is a great copy out there available but I guess some groups don't want everyone knowing it. Sucks.

Where else can we check?

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Posted by CTP Fan on 04-22-2004 01:46 AM:

Upon reviewing both the TCR release and the VideoCD release I'm leaning towards TCR's as the better of the two. Despite all the flaws mentioned. The pic is crisper and cleaner and not as washed out as the VideoCD version. Just my 2 cents. I have deleted the VideoCd release from my HD. TCR is better.


Posted by Diggler on 04-22-2004 05:06 AM:

I'll give it 8/8/10. It had it's flaws, but I sure as hell am not complaining! The picture quality ranged from average to great. Though it spent more time being great than average and the sound was fantastic!


Posted by acme420 on 04-22-2004 05:11 AM:

I watched the movie, i loved it.

Now the blue/white i can ignore, the guy standing up and walking to his seat, omg that shit was so clear i hope the feds cant track that guy down to what theatre he was at and bust the cammer. and the scene where it was split, i actually thought that was some tarantino shit, and was part of the movie.

I can ignore all that shit cuz it didnt really take away from me watching/enjoying the movie as say maybe some french subs during a whole 15 minute scene would have.

Sound was crisp and clear although if you listen closely you can hear a low pop noise.

overall i give this

7/8/10

i love kill bill and i wanna marry uma thurman and have her babiez.

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Posted by DocVW on 04-22-2004 05:38 AM:

Both are good, pick your flavour

I watched the entire VideoCD version, and CD1 of TCR's.
They both have their problems, for sure.

Points about VideoCD's version are ( and I am only posting here as there is not a thread here yet for it and maybe it can help others decide which to get)
Biggest part for me is the French subtitles.
The video is so bright, that even though I can read French, I had no chance of reading what they said as they were far to fast and bright. Minor skips and things here and there, but all in all good quality except for the brightness. Audio was very good, actually even too loud at some points where the music drowned out the talking.

If I wanted to see the movie again, which I do not as to me Volume one was much better than this one was, I would probably stick to TCR's if for nothing else for the subtitles. Who cares about the tint in the begining of the movie? It's black and white anyways, no real shame there.


Posted by kaotek on 04-22-2004 07:09 AM:

Ha, that part where the frame is cut on the Face to Face chapter is shown exactly as it screwed up at the theater I saw it at. Wonder if it was being filmed there at the showing I was in. It's a small world.


Posted by Tacid on 04-22-2004 09:37 AM:

great movie. i've seen it in theaters yesterday night. haven't watched this rls yet because i wanted to see it in theaters and in german first.

there was a split screen in the cinema as well. i don't know where it exactly began. uma drives in a car to the guy with the whores ^^

one of the best movies i've ever seen. grade the movie with a 10 !!

Tarantino at his best.

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Posted by hassali on 04-22-2004 10:48 AM:

i have got both TCR's copy and VideoCD's copy, and IMO i prefer VideoCD's. Yes the french subs are a problem but can easily be solved:
I cut out the scene with the subs from tcr's copy and replaced it with Videocd's, easy as that.
VideoCd i found to be of much superior quality when it came to sound, it was fantastic!!
The pic quality for both was pretty much the same except VideoCD doesn't have the faults that TCR and was clear throughout.
In all, both groups did a very good job and speed of releases was great too, but i would have to give this one to VideoCD


Posted by JKozzy on 04-22-2004 04:17 PM:

When it comes to this movie, I'm preferring TCR over VideoCD's rls. The three flaws mentioned above are just something that I can live with. The colors are understandable in the beginning, the guy standing up was actually sorta funny, and the split screen.. eh, oh well. Video is extremely clear, and colors are a bit off, you can tell when they try to fix them (Budd and Elle phone convo esp.) but it's definetly watchable. Audio has no pops or buzzing which is a definite plus; I'll keep TCR's rls. Vol.2 also was better than Vol.1

8/8/9.5

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Posted by PuFFFaTTy on 04-22-2004 05:19 PM:

after reading the last few posts id say we r down to 2 flaws in this rls.... the split screen seems to be part of the movie and not a flaw. its too bad cause this was a good rls.

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Posted by bigmouse64 on 04-22-2004 06:29 PM:

i got this 30 minutes after it was released, only just burned it though, haha, some dumbass guy walking up at the start infront of the cam, what an idiot.


Posted by djj on 04-22-2004 07:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PuFFFaTTy
he split screen seems to be part of the movie and not a flaw.


No, it's not part of the movie. Wanna proof of it? Just take a look at VideoCD's release.

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Posted by boscorelle on 04-22-2004 10:14 PM:

Movie fuckin rules it is one of the best films of the year

Video: 8
Audio: 8
Movie: 10!!!


Posted by acme420 on 04-23-2004 12:30 AM:

judging from the posts i would say no one but 2 guys actually went to the movies to watch this? I was gonna go but it was sold out and i just couldnt wait. So the screen split is supposed to be in the movie? cuz it doesnt make sense how that could happen in encoding. but what do i know.

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Posted by fortuyn on 04-23-2004 01:13 AM:

Kill the crazy 88 ypurself http://www.petardas.com/cositas/kill-bill

And the tcr TS is worse!

5/6/5/


Posted by x757x on 04-23-2004 01:51 AM:

it was not split in the screening I saw, so maybe they did take the same acid, or someone(s) on here is full of shit? never....

just bothered to get it, but its been rated enough, who needs another.


Posted by BiggD23 on 04-23-2004 06:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PuFFFaTTy
after reading the last few posts id say we r down to 2 flaws in this rls.... the split screen seems to be part of the movie and not a flaw. its too bad cause this was a good rls.


The split screen is ** ABSOLUTELY NOT ** part of the movie. I saw it in the theater on opening night and it did not split. Nor does it split in the VideoCD release as someone else mentioned.

quote:
Originally posted by hassali
I cut out the scene with the subs from tcr's copy and replaced it with Videocd's, easy as that.


Whoa, slow down there...not exactly. I spent quite a few hours yesterday merging the subtitled scenes from the TCR release into the VideoCD release and I must say that after a few tries it came out excellent. It took me a while because I'm very anal about these things and I had to make sure that everything lined up to the exact frame. But there are actually 3 parts that you need to replace if you want to really do it right...

#1 - The entire training scene with B and Pai Mei. (subtitles)
#2 - The flashback of Elle killing Pai Mei. (subtitles)
#3 - The words on the screen at the end (cut off early in VideoCDs copy)


Posted by JKozzy on 04-23-2004 09:54 PM:

Right, BiggD23, I saw the movie twice in theaters, once Saturday and the other Monday, and neither time it split. Why would Quentin even split it, and why would anyone think it part of the movie? Looks pretty funny, I really don't mind that much, surprisingly. Big things, like fizzing audio or blurry video get me, a split screen for a few minutes couldn't bother me.

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Posted by Duke1337 on 04-24-2004 04:43 AM:

A friend of mine said that the video split thing happened when he saw it in the theater the first time, but not at the same place, or for nearly as long. So I'm assuming that it's not TCR's fault, but might have been an issue with the projector.


Posted by in-sites on 04-24-2004 05:39 AM:

i dunno if it was said but quinton would have put the split screen in, if he had thought of it.

haha

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Posted by solidus1299 on 04-24-2004 10:25 AM:

Then again, why would anybody put parts of the movie in black in white?

At first, I thought it was meant to split. its a cool effect, if you have something else happening on top (kinda like the show 24)


Posted by djj on 04-24-2004 01:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by solidus1299
Then again, why would anybody put parts of the movie in black in white?


Well duh, it's stylish!

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Posted by MTV on 04-24-2004 10:24 PM:

Oki. i posted way back on the 1st page of this rls.got to say this isnt the 1 to get. in fact save b/width.. wish i had.& no way in the world should it be getting the scores it has.the VideoCD rls is way way better rls.
from the VideoCD nfo -

Lets Start With ReasonS For Proper -

1. You Can CLEARLY See Peoples Faces And Heads
2. Audio Obviously NOT DIRECT, Seems Mic'ed
3. There is a period of MINUTES where the screen is split due to the film not being centered (half of bottom on top, and half of top on bottom
4. Colors in the B&W Scenes Are Blue And White, Faces Red. Not To Mention The Overall Terrible Color Changes and Colors In General.
5. 2.5 CDS ? Well 3 Full CDS Enjoy.


Posted by directv on 04-25-2004 03:17 PM:

a 2-part question. the audio and video are a bit out of sync. how can i change that and by how much? the first 5 mins are blue. how can i change it to b/w if its possible? thanks you

video: 7 (lower cuz of blue beginning)
audio: 7 (out of sync)
movie: haven't watched it yet


Posted by dalton4life on 04-26-2004 06:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by BiggD23
Whoa, slow down there...not exactly. I spent quite a few hours yesterday merging the subtitled scenes from the TCR release into the VideoCD release and I must say that after a few tries it came out excellent. It took me a while because I'm very anal about these things and I had to make sure that everything lined up to the exact frame. But there are actually 3 parts that you need to replace if you want to really do it right...

#1 - The entire training scene with B and Pai Mei. (subtitles)
#2 - The flashback of Elle killing Pai Mei. (subtitles)
#3 - The words on the screen at the end (cut off early in VideoCDs copy)



I mean really how hard was it to do? All I did was use TMPGenc and split 9 parts from both releases and then join them up into one to burn on a DVD-R. I just just looked for the scene to change before and after the 3 parts I needed. Time-wise it took a few hours with encoding but but finding the parts was about 15-30mins. But you did put a good lil reference there for someone who wanted to do the same thing.

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Posted by BiggD23 on 04-26-2004 09:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dalton4life
I mean really how hard was it to do? All I did was use TMPGenc and split 9 parts from both releases and then join them up into one to burn on a DVD-R. I just just looked for the scene to change before and after the 3 parts I needed. Time-wise it took a few hours with encoding but but finding the parts was about 15-30mins. But you did put a good lil reference there for someone who wanted to do the same thing.


Ahhh, gotcha. I ended up with 9 parts too...it sounds like we did almost the exact same thing. lol. The only difference is that I didn't re-join the 9 mpg files because it's not necessary...TMPGENC DVD Author will do that for you. Same difference though.

directv...the audio and video aren't out of sync. As for fixing the blue part and the split screen, see above. If there was an easier way I would have done it that way.


Posted by cico on 04-26-2004 10:16 PM:

i would suggest you do not download this one, as the framerate in cd3 is actually fucked up big times, and it is a real shame.

just a side note: the screen DOES (can you read? it *DOES* DOES DOES ) briefly split up during the fight scene in bud's caravan; it obviously does not at the beginning of chapter nine...

trust me, it does.

6/7/9+


Posted by dalton4life on 04-27-2004 06:30 AM:

Yeah that's the way to get this as a true proper. I'm surprised a groud doesn't do it. Easy way for a legit proper. I never used TMPGdvd author but I think I am going to give it a try.

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Posted by scottymac on 04-27-2004 07:13 PM:

Isn't this release a CVD not an SVCD?

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Posted by djj on 04-27-2004 08:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by scottymac
Isn't this release a CVD not an SVCD?


Umm, what makes you think so?

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Posted by scottymac on 04-27-2004 09:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by djj
Umm, what makes you think so?


Because when I visited my parents this weekend and stuck the disks in their Samsung DVD player, it recognized the disks as CVD. I did bring along a different disk and the player correctly recognized it as an SVCD.

I have not delved into the file to find out the truth, but I think that it is a CVD because my old player that struggles with CVD could not play it.

It could have been encoded as a CVD but the bin and cue set to author it as an SVCD..?..

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Posted by servie_b on 04-28-2004 09:23 AM:

Am I correct to assume that the VideoCD version is 3CD's? I received a copy, which I still have to download and it was 1 CD, mpeg1 with a bitrate of 784. Somebody converted an over 2 hour movie to fit one 1 CD. I don't think I want to know what that looks like on TV.


Posted by vegie on 04-29-2004 01:55 AM:

didnt think the movie was to bad.

nice picture with alright sound, downfall was the 3cds though, but was worth it for a good movie.


Posted by BiggD23 on 04-29-2004 05:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by vegie
didnt think the movie was to bad.

nice picture with alright sound, downfall was the 3cds though, but was worth it for a good movie.



[rant]
Why do some people always bitch about 3 CDs? Take the length of this movie...use a bitrate calculator...and you tell me how it could have possibly been 2 SVCDs and still look decent. A blank CD costs what nowadays...10 cents maybe. Stop whining.
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Posted by JKozzy on 04-30-2004 03:36 AM:

[continuing BiggD23's rant]Plus what, you *gasp* HAVE TO GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND CHANGE A CD ONE EXTRA TIME! When you got it for free! And the DVD won't be out for awhile! Sorry, I don't see the sense in whining about 3CD rls's. Hell, if it were 5 CDs, I probably wouldn't mind. I didn't make it, I won't complain. Although six CDs might get annoying. [/rant]

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Posted by peevuto on 05-01-2004 12:26 AM:

I like TCR, but this rls sucks. The proper is WAY better. Get the proper.

BTW, this movie suks A$$. What a boring crappy flick. What a waste of film.


Posted by [50-50] on 05-09-2004 01:33 PM:

Crap

Kill Bill 2

I did not like this release. It is really bad. The quality and sound very excellent although on CD 2, there were subtitles which were in FRENCH which lasted like 10 minutes + and I turned it off since half the story went there. So I would advice anyone not to download this release as it contains subtitles which are in French.

Basically on CD 2 there is a scene which a Japanese man is speaking Japanese... the subtitles to this are in French and it is useless for anyone because I do not understand/cant read French. This scene lasts for 10 minutes or more and then I had to turn it off because there were vital scenes, scenes not to be missed.

DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION...


Posted by JKozzy on 05-09-2004 11:26 PM:

Uh, did you watch this rls at all, much less the movie? There are no french subs, and there's no japanese scene that lasts ten minutes... there's a spanish guy with a bad accent, but he speaks English...

Before you post, watch the damn movie

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Posted by Nackerbag on 05-11-2004 09:14 AM:

Re: Crap

quote:
Originally posted by [50-50]
Kill Bill 2

I did not like this release. ...... on CD 2, there were subtitles which were in FRENCH which lasted like 10 minutes + ....... So I would advice anyone not to download this release as it contains subtitles which are in French.

Basically on CD 2 there is a scene which a Japanese man is speaking Japanese... the subtitles to this are in French and it is useless for anyone because I do not understand/cant read French. This scene lasts for 10 minutes or more and then I had to turn it off because there were vital scenes, scenes not to be missed.

DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION...



I found the same thing with my copy. I was about to post and find how I can avoid falling for this again?
Just for the record mine is labled:-
Kill.Bill.Vol.2.PROPER.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD-CD2.tar

Thanx for your time,
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Posted by scottymac on 05-12-2004 02:25 AM:

Re: Crap

quote:
Originally posted by [50-50]
Kill Bill 2

I did not like this release. It is really bad. The quality and sound very excellent although on CD 2, there were subtitles which were in FRENCH which lasted like 10 minutes + and I turned it off since half the story went there. So I would advice anyone not to download this release as it contains subtitles which are in French.

Basically on CD 2 there is a scene which a Japanese man is speaking Japanese... the subtitles to this are in French and it is useless for anyone because I do not understand/cant read French. This scene lasts for 10 minutes or more and then I had to turn it off because there were vital scenes, scenes not to be missed.

DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION...



quote:
Originally posted by Nackerbag
I found the same thing with my copy. I was about to post and find how I can avoid falling for this again?
Just for the record mine is labled:-
Kill.Bill.Vol.2.PROPER.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD-CD2.tar



Hey kids,

Look carefully before you post. This thread is about the TCR release.

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Posted by Nackerbag on 05-12-2004 02:55 AM:

Yeah sorry about that scottymac. I did realise that this was originally about TCR but I thought that since it had been nuked, and there was a proper around, and my question was only small, I would tack it on here. But you are right I will find somewhere to post a new thread about my question.
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