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Posted by zunger on 06-07-2003 01:58 AM:

The Hulk - WORKPRINT - SMF

ehhh

Sorta ugly, got a bit of sketchyness in the sound althought its pretty decent. Sound is overall good.

Theres a sketch line in the middle along with 2-3 smaller(decent size still) black lines at the bottom right. Slightly dark.

Nice time on the release though.

6/6/?

edit: I went back and watched this on my dvd-player, sound is alot better then through headphones


Posted by goSu on 06-07-2003 02:01 AM:

3 ugly black bars on the far right of the screen to hide serials, other than that i'd compare this to any typical ugly screener...but for a pre release of 14 days...if you can't wait, this is well wroth the download


Posted by Air1 on 06-07-2003 02:05 AM:

just got sample to see how it is given 2 week pre and all.... don't care to see it, though.

it's like super-duper wide screen. very narrow. it's definitely watchable. video reminds me of a little bit better of the House of 1000 Corpses screener. but like i said, a bit better.

7/7/x


Posted by c2k on 06-07-2003 02:07 AM:

yea, its watchable, nothing more to really say

6.5/6.5/?


Posted by I Hate Morons on 06-07-2003 02:14 AM:

pic and sound are ok probably better than t he cams that will be released in 2 weeks

as for the movie... looks like crap couldn't they have done anything better with special effects than make him look like shrek on steroids?


Posted by Butch on 06-07-2003 02:20 AM:

*From sample*

PROPS PROPS PROPS!!!!
video 6 - bars are a bit annoyin
audio - 8
film ?

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Posted by pezley on 06-07-2003 02:25 AM:

supreme kick ass'ness on the speed

very very nice


hmm video is comparable to like the phone booth screener....

say for a screener a 6

sound is fine ... bit distant ... but once again very early so.... 6-7

movie ??


6/7/?


Posted by svcd2vcd on 06-07-2003 02:30 AM:

7/7/10


Posted by faYth on 06-07-2003 02:31 AM:

sexy sexy sexy for a 14 day pre release! thanks SMF. pic is kinda dark and sound is bad but still it came out so quickly.. good job... 6/6/movie should be GOOD


Posted by LiQuIdMuNkY on 06-07-2003 02:33 AM:

Well, awesome job on the pre, video is good cept for the lines, audio is decent, i wouldnt get this jus because its a workprint.
6/6/?

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Posted by MoNoXiDe on 06-07-2003 02:40 AM:

Nice WP... Ive seen worse ... 7/7/? (for a WP) Sound was great... black bars were not that bad... and the drag line in the center on the right side isnt that bad either... good pre sfm! Bring on some more !!!

I will be waiting on a good TS or SCR for viewing on my TV then the retail DvD... But first ill have my seat at the theater in 14 days for the full effect... Hope its worth the money !!!

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Posted by Joynt on 06-07-2003 02:40 AM:

it seems that some of the sound effects are missing
when the dude gets tossed across the room he makes no sound when he hits the ground
i dont really want to watch an action movie with no sound effects
if someone watches it can you lemme know if theyre missing throughout

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Posted by K-FurY on 06-07-2003 02:45 AM:

this looks and sounds alright, ill definitely pick it up, wp's are always interesting to watch and its a very big pre. nice work, and huge props.
6/6/?


Posted by Rep- on 06-07-2003 02:46 AM:

This is a great release. Not the best quality, but definitely watchable. For 2 weeks pre, you can't beat it. Hope they have access to more movies from the studios that brought The Hulk. 7/7/x


Posted by pHo on 06-07-2003 02:54 AM:

main problem seems to be its capped from at least a 2nd/3rd generation dub, thru probably a low quality capture card. doesn't help the quality of the original print, which is probably quite good.

background music and effects seem to be in place, but the effects for this movie look flipping awful, so thats not necessarily a good thing. worth watching if bored i guess.

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Posted by skinlab100 on 06-07-2003 03:14 AM:

the sample is alright , the bars are annoying but vid/pic is decent 6,6,? .. As for Ppl judging the movie usually the 1st several ppl that post about rating are judging by sample and not whole release . Just like me is judging the release by sample and not whole, nuttin wrong wit that , if everyone rated by whole release and not sample , there wouldn't be any comments till next day or few hrs


Posted by your name here on 06-07-2003 03:26 AM:

well i really wanna see this so i really dont care about the quality of this, its a nice pre, sound seems staticky....video is nice

very nice pre big props on this one


cant wait to watch!!!!!

7/6/?


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Posted by Rezneck on 06-07-2003 03:29 AM:

Props on the early rls, quite suprised to see this. Overall average qaulity judging from sample. But mad props for the early rls.

Rofl and to quote from the nfo..

" I don't think the world is ready for this one, but HULK MOTHERFUCKiNG SMASH BiTCHES!"


Posted by ugly_rat on 06-07-2003 04:09 AM:

From watching the sample I noticed that the left channel of audio has the dialogue, and the right has the soundtrack. It's somewhat harder for me to pay attention w/ it like that, but for 2 weeks pre I'd say theres no room to complain. Pic is somewhat dark and cropped but still its a watchable release. 6/5/?


Posted by Cory on 06-07-2003 04:13 AM:

Indeed the bars are annoying, but this is still awesome. I'll probably watch this tonight. The audio seemed a little scratchy, video is decent but the bars. Kind of hard for me to judge workprint to workprint since the latest ones I can recall that I downloaded was Barbershop and El Diablo.

6/5/x


Posted by TheBeyonder on 06-07-2003 05:03 AM:

Smile nice !

yeah awesome pre - nice pic and audio is good

6/6/x

watchable


Posted by Commy on 06-07-2003 05:06 AM:

widescreen
kinda blurry but definetely watchable
two small lines on the right side going horizontally across, not too bad
sound is fairly strong
this is based on skimming through cd1, so i dunno if theres any messups at some parts
7/8/?

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Posted by rec0ded on 06-07-2003 05:09 AM:

its good quality better than some ghey ass TS lets see how complete it is tho..personally i have a lil collection of workprints being the movie lover i am so this is gonna be a neat addiction for me just shame lot of good sites dont allow workprints cuz i feel they're a good alternative rls..gotta love requesting. Props on a good pre gonna watch the rest of this just as soon as i'm baked enough

oh yea i think someone posted there's no fx sounds when hulk throws the guy...umm he throws him onto a couch dude so unless u were expecting to hear the springs go boiing i dont think there needs to be any sound fx there


Posted by Schmiggy JK23 on 06-07-2003 05:21 AM:

Nice workprint, specially for such a early release.

cant wait to see the full version, as the sample wasnt enough.

6/6

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Posted by knweedo on 06-07-2003 05:23 AM:

This is awsome, I was really surprised when I checked VCDQ out of boredness, hoping SOMETHING good had been released, and what to I find? A 2 Week Pre Workprint of one of the biggest movies of the summer(and definetly the most badass hehe). Considering pre's are subbed cams most of the time, a Workprint is pretty damn nice. Good quality, a little bit below VHS screener quality. Possily a copy of a copy for source? Oh well, quality is good, great speed too. 7/7/? Still downloading whole movie

::EDIT: For those of you saying it's missing sound effects when the guy is thrown, turn your speakers up, you can hear a soft noise when he lands on the couch.


Posted by jediwannabe420 on 06-07-2003 05:29 AM:

just watched the sample. it's decent picture, and the sound was kinda hollow, but definitely watchable. props for the 2 week pre
6/5/?


Posted by tupelo on 06-07-2003 06:10 AM:

Thumbs up

not the best release in the world, but 2 weeks pre is great. at least it will stop the 400,000 ts releases i expected to see for this movie. 5/7/?


Posted by blacks on 06-07-2003 06:44 AM:

Nice job on the speed. Quality isn't too great, but its early.


Posted by hesterthe13th on 06-07-2003 06:57 AM:

On my computer the sample seems to have been made from a split master workprint. The dialouge is on the left channel and the music/sound effects are on the right.

Still a great pre-release

Based on Sample

7/5.5/?


Posted by n0th1ng on 06-07-2003 07:07 AM:

props on the two week pre guys

6/5 sound a little sticky

pz


Posted by JD4Eva645 on 06-07-2003 07:07 AM:

Niceness...not too bad, better than i thought, sound is ok..

7/5/?


Posted by Smurf Boy on 06-07-2003 07:41 AM:

Early enough that I might not be able to resist not watching this. Quality is pretty good, not something worth saving imo so I'll just put it on a RW to check it out. 6/5/?


Posted by Urban2010 on 06-07-2003 08:42 AM:

just got sample...barely noticed the two black lines...great pre rls good pic, little dark but very very watchable...7/6/?


Posted by Heflink on 06-07-2003 10:00 AM:

Typical wp, but it's impossible to complain with this wicked pre.

I dont know why, but workprints like always seem to have weird AR, like that willard pre. Then again I drink alot of paint, so it coold be just me.

5/7/? . I would like to hold out for good quality, but I cant avoid watching this release. kickass.


Posted by ophir on 06-07-2003 10:07 AM:

sample - 5 / 6 / x


Posted by MQ-James on 06-07-2003 10:08 AM:

from sample IMO

video is similar to cam, the bars could get annoying, soundtrack and voices on different channel, also are they slightly out of sync? props for the release, won't grab this one though :/


Posted by Muzak on 06-07-2003 10:37 AM:

weird, my third post in this thread, yet, hopefully, only one lives.



i just now got the sample. there is no way in hell the sound effects are in place for this. i mean, come on, no bass at ALL for when he hulks up? please.

lets see it THIS one stays...

:: edit because it's a WORKPRINT, why are you complaining? -M$


Posted by XullaH on 06-07-2003 11:53 AM:

good release.

audio goes out of sync on cd2

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Posted by JoE_DaDdY on 06-07-2003 12:12 PM:

*Video*
[-]Very grainy
[-]Dark Picture
[-]To Much red in color
[-]Most of this can be fixed with a mpg encoder

*Audio*
[-]Audio is wierd imo. Dont like how the audio is where the dialog is in the left channel and bg music i in the right but bearable.

overall 6/6/?

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Posted by rec0ded on 06-07-2003 12:23 PM:

just mix the audio thats what i did i ripped it mixed it a bit nicer n plexed it back there's a coupla scenes incomplete from a cgi standpoint and alot of missing sound during the major battle movie looks intact tho scene wise will be intresting to see if they cut down the scene where he rips apart the hulk dogs to stop poor lil kiddies shrieking in horror heh finally a comic book movie just for us adults

i thought the movie was real good nice tight storyline ending was cheesier than a bag of cheetos tho


Posted by Bullet on 06-07-2003 12:55 PM:

Some dudes are bitchin here..i mean isnt this just superb work? Defenitly wins the "pre rls-price" in my book. 14 days be4 and such a nice audio/video.

Props

7/7/?


Posted by Mystic Slippers on 06-07-2003 01:30 PM:

Very impressed. Ok it's an nth-gen source but it'll do nicely. It's as good as any average screener and the two-week pre is pretty goddamn amazing.

The lack of SFX etc in places is to be expected really and shouldn't be bitched about. Remember, this is a WORKPRINT and NOT a screener so it's obviously unfinished.

The audio feels like a poor foreign dub in places and sfx and cgi moments still need mastering. But for a print this early again, we can't complain.

Movie still looks shit though. I won't be going to the theatre.

7/7/X


Posted by X400 on 06-07-2003 02:08 PM:

REally nice pre

its a workprint which is cool i heard a lot on tv about how the fx on the hulk looks reallllly cartoony and they really put it down.. i can see why, cant wait to see how much they improved it when it hits the big screen

6/5/?


Posted by drMabuse on 06-07-2003 02:18 PM:

Got disc 2 and then binned it and cancelled my q's for 1+3. I know its 2 weeks early and its a wp but sorry its cak. Sound is slightly out of sunc, many effects are missing sound, you might not think the bars are annoying from the sample, thats becuase its so dark you cant see. In other parts they are really annoying. I dont wanna dissSMF, props for the release but to me this is one only for people who collect workprints..


Posted by Spunko on 06-07-2003 03:14 PM:

Not bad at all for a 2 week pre. 7/6/x
Thats some nice work SMF.


Posted by Cory on 06-07-2003 04:07 PM:

http://204lifestyle.com/public/hulk_1.jpg

http://204lifestyle.com/public/pk_hulk-movie3_ho.jpg

I don't think he looks that cartoony.


Posted by prolifyk on 06-07-2003 04:20 PM:

The video is fine, the audio is a little weird. Is anyone else getting the sound effects/background music in the right speaker, and the dialogue in the left?

LOL @ Stan Lee's cameo... It's near the beginning, after the prologue. Look for it.

Just got done with CD1.

7/6/?


Posted by HoldDaSalad on 06-07-2003 04:28 PM:

cool beans

Well its a nice pre, picture isn't that bad. I can handle the black bars. Sound is really odd. Like mystic said it needs mastering but nothing to complain about. Maybe they should have made this rls mono? the sound would be together. Also I wonder if there are scene changes in this rls than the theatrical that comes out in 2 weeks. I guess we'll find out. Kinda like Willard was different.

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Posted by lame hack on 06-07-2003 05:26 PM:

great early release, watchable, but i think ill wait to go see this in theatrees, major props though!


Posted by firefighter on 06-07-2003 05:56 PM:

Picked it up yesterday and wow Props on the Speed SMF !! This WorkPrint was better then alot of CAMS / TS's i have seen definatly a pick er up'r. Sounds Good and Picture is alright. Got two black bars throught the whole movies (prob covering the serials), picture is a bit faded and a bit dark, if you gonna watch this copy - watch at night - or lighten your TV. A few Computer "glitches" in it - hence the workprint - one point Hulk looses his pants , another point he looks like jolly green giant, . The Movie itself, im soooo disapointed. I personally Was expecting so much more. Unlike DareDevil, Spiderman where you get their story life in first 15 mins and they become superheros ... The Hulk Drags on a bit ... enough said I'll let you be the judge.

6/7/6

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Posted by pHo on 06-07-2003 06:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cory
http://204lifestyle.com/public/hulk_1.jpg

http://204lifestyle.com/public/pk_hulk-movie3_ho.jpg

I don't think he looks that cartoony.



true, but when a 2003 multimillion $ budget movie can't compare to Kenneth Johnsons 1977 tv movie , with the REAL hulk (lou ferrigno) ... you gotta be worried

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Posted by AC Slater on 06-07-2003 06:44 PM:

7/7/6.5


Big props to SMF for this thing 2 weeks early. Can't ask for much more. I really wanted to see this movie, thanks SMF




The only bad parts about a work print are the unfinished cgi and missing sound effects. Other than that it was a decent popcorn flick.


Posted by AAjax on 06-07-2003 06:49 PM:

Just picked up the sample, Great pre good color and even though the sound is kinda freaky a great WP. Much better than many I have seen (thoguh workprints seem rare nowdays)

7/5/? For workprint pre


Props for the 14day "advanced screening"


Posted by naked_eye on 06-07-2003 07:21 PM:

Disappointed, maybe!

I also was disappointed, but remember, this IS a workprint, most of the sound effects were missing or incomplete, and the ending seemed to be thrown together, like something was missing from it. Also most Workprints include EVERY scene from the movie, even the ones the director removes from the final copy, which may explain why it drags along in the first half.
The thing that bothered me most was if you have seen the full trailers, you have seen 80-90% of the time he was the hulk in the movie. Hopefully things have been removed, and the final film will be more complete, and they will take some of the first scenes out that drag along.


Posted by PhilD on 06-07-2003 07:43 PM:

Well maybe the sample doesn't do the video justice as from seeing the sample i didn't think the video was that great, definetely not compareable to a screener... compareable to a ts at best.

Anyways, grabbing the full thing as i can't complain getting a 2 week pre, not sure if i'm wanting to see this anyways, i have a feeling it's gonna be as bad as daredevil was.

Anyways for a workprint, and from the sample 6/6/?


Posted by brr8760 on 06-07-2003 07:45 PM:

Thank you SMF -- I agree with what has already been said. Good quality, like a nice TS, and MAJOR props for being 2 weeks early, but this workprint is definitely UNfinished. I doubt Ang Lee could make a movie this bad. Edit note: I've watched all of it now, it wasn't as bad a movie as I thought, but it still lacks. I'd guess it's at least 90% complete.

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Posted by LiL PaPPy on 06-07-2003 07:46 PM:

picture wasnt bad at all... sound had a couple scratchy parts but other than that it was damn good... who cares about the damn black bars.... didnt notice em..(might be because i was on xanex, but thats besides the point)...and the movie kick3d ass.... 8/7/9...


Posted by strawhair on 06-07-2003 08:00 PM:

6/6/6 simple as that


Posted by tphillip on 06-07-2003 08:15 PM:

Nice quality! Pic is a little fuzzy, sound is kinda VHS-ish, but for a two week pre I aint complaining!

7/6/8


Posted by hesterthe13th on 06-07-2003 09:16 PM:

If you're watching this through an apex, you can hit the l/r button on the remote to make it play the disc mono. It really improves the quality of the audio.


Posted by djkoolaide on 06-07-2003 09:23 PM:

well i downloaded it but is it the whole movie? might watch it tonight if theres missing scenes, etc


Posted by params on 06-07-2003 09:58 PM:

I'll agree with whoever said it looks like the screener of Phone Booth.

This definitely looks like a third generation VHS. The bars aren't annoying IMO as they're tucked away quite well. Once you sort the sound its not bad.

I'd say that this was just about watchable - fuzzy with an annoying glitch that runs across the middle.

Overall though we've got to say big props on the speed of the release.

We can't complain we ain't paying for this!

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Posted by rdiamond on 06-07-2003 10:06 PM:

Heres what people were talking about when it gets cartoonie towards the end of the film..

http://webpages.charter.net/jarjgd/PDVD_002.jpg


Posted by Klonin on 06-07-2003 10:21 PM:

CD2 quits at 1:31

CD2 FUCKED


Anyone else had this problem??????????????


Posted by Klonin on 06-07-2003 10:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by djkoolaide
well i downloaded it but is it the whole movie? might watch it tonight if theres missing scenes, etc


who cares if you downloaded it. what does your statement have to do with quality.


Posted by wickedbull on 06-07-2003 10:31 PM:

Nothing wrong with CD2 for me.... fucking longass movie.... and it sucked, didn't finish last 20minutes got too bored..... good qual and yea its workprint cuz the desert parts had no sounds in some parts...
6-Video - Watchable, looks like screener... bars not annoyin for me but like glitch across the top of screen
6-Audio - OK Audio, nothing amazing
2-Movie - Fight screnes were tight, even tho like 1minute of it.... rest was boring as hell.....

Great pre, dissapointed in this pos movie..


Posted by RUiNU on 06-07-2003 10:32 PM:

I loved this fick , watched it last night and gunna watch it again. It seems like most of the stuff is there but unfinished ( you can see the hulks ass in one sceen , lol ). the sound is good and vid is ok . I recomend d/l this movie. I aint gunna d/l any TS of this gunna wait for a dvd rip

6.5/6.5/9


Posted by params on 06-07-2003 10:42 PM:

Sounds like a bad download Klonin - no probs with CD2 here


Posted by Tweezer on 06-07-2003 10:44 PM:

Re: CD2 quits at 1:31

quote:
Originally posted by Klonin
CD2 FUCKED


Anyone else had this problem??????????????



lol i wish you wouldnt have edited that, because i would have had a fun time replying to what you had posted earlier

my cd2 is fine....and no this site is not lame....you are just the only one that got a shitty download


Posted by Klonin on 06-07-2003 10:46 PM:

Preciatte It

Will give it another go


thx

Vid - 7

Audio - Single Channel at points then weird stereo at others

Flix - Plot different from Comic but so so


Posted by Mr.Neo on 06-07-2003 10:49 PM:

Hulk Smash

Great Pre but whats wrong with the Pic? (looks like dirt poured all over the film and then Capped) audio is good as for film dunno just grabbed the sample 5/7/?

P.S. The old TV hulk looked better (feriggno I think)


Posted by Tweezer on 06-07-2003 10:50 PM:

Re: Preciatte It

quote:
Originally posted by Klonin
Will give it another go


thx

Vid - 7

Audio - Single Channel at points then weird stereo at others

Flix - Plot different from Comic but so so



how are you rating the movie if you havent seen the second disc?


Posted by boogada on 06-07-2003 11:40 PM:

I Hate Morons said "as for the movie... looks like crap couldn't they have done anything better with special effects than make him look like shrek on steroids?"

Watch the old movies and you'll definitely appreciate this movie's special effects


Posted by VCDguy on 06-07-2003 11:57 PM:

humph

uhm can anyone really watch the movie and tell us if it's good or a waste of time please?

Rating from sample:

Video=8 (This is great for 2 weeks pre)
Audio=5 (A few adjustments and its great BUT there seems to be missing sound effects)
Movie=? Haven't watched it alllll yet :P

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Posted by tornado=[GSW]= on 06-08-2003 12:05 AM:

mad props for 2 week pre, for a work print quality is great, nicely viewable and pretty audible, better than some cams out..

for the movie I was pretty disappointed, its a comic book goddammit, not a drama, first 45 mins theres no action and no hulk, kids are gonna get disappointed with this movie, and adults are gonna give it a pass for its comic background, one of the most disappointing movies of the year...


Posted by GeNeTiX on 06-08-2003 12:07 AM:

audio seems a bit squeely (is that a word)
in the sample
video a bit dark
not sure if im gonna get the whole thing, although it will be 2 weeks maybe before another release
6/6/x

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Posted by vcduk2000 on 06-08-2003 12:44 AM:

ok, i watched this release and here is my verdict

the video was an 7, not bad, more than watchable
the sound was a 7, same as the video not bad

now then the film...what a stinking pile of shit that was, i was expecting great things from this but to be honest i was bored, now maybe i was missing the whole point of this hulk thing, but for most of the film it was just plain sloooooooooooow

some strange points about the workprint too, i noticed one of the scenes with the hulk in (where he was buried under some rocks and he moved one) the hulk looked like it was coloured in...like a cartoon caracter, also there seemed to be some missing explosions etc, and fuck...what was all that crappy music, its like the end scene in gladiator(soft quiet dreary music)..this was really depressing all the way through.,..and whats with the 24 style 4 screens in one style....man that was annoying

to sum it up, i wish i hadnt wasted 2 hours of my life watching this, and if it isnt the final cut i hope they change it before the release date as it is going to get slated big style


Posted by prolifyk on 06-08-2003 01:19 AM:

Finished the movie.

You couldn't really tell this was a workprint in the first CD, but on CD2 towards the end it is very apparant. Missing music (the final battle is VERY quiet), sound effects, and unfinished CGI shots (Hulk's pants magically disappearing and reappearing).

The sounds on different channels is an easy fix by mix-pasting the two channels together, or playing the movie in mono (what I did).

It's still very watchable. I'll still be at the theater opening night.

Good job to SMF for a very nice pre.


Posted by LOLobo on 06-08-2003 01:58 AM:

Why anyone would want a workprint? I don't know, never got one before? I don't care.... I'll get it just to see something on this now quiet summer blockbuster.

Video - 7
Audio - 6 (workprint scale)
Movie - ?


Posted by Kalpz on 06-08-2003 02:03 AM:

OMG OMG OMG OMG Wicked Film!!! like phone booth again, best comic movie out!!! cant wait to see it in the cinema properly,
6/5/10!!!


Posted by shorty6pac on 06-08-2003 02:35 AM:

currently downloading the movie so my opinion will only be based on audio and video quality of the sample.......

well for a 2 week pre cant really complain bars on the side are less annoying that that little line/glitch or whatever it is on the middle of the screen sound is bearable but understandable downloading the whole movie now to see how the rest is

7/6/?


Posted by ams30gts on 06-08-2003 02:59 AM:

looks and sounds good to me.

7/7/?


Posted by Muzak on 06-08-2003 02:59 AM:

for the record mystic slippers, i wasnt complaining, simply agreeing with an earlier post on the sound fx. im certainly not bitching, the hulk has always been my favorite and i cant wait to see this in the theater.


Posted by Kalpz on 06-08-2003 03:36 AM:

Easiest way to fix the sound is either if listening via hifi sysytem then put the sound mode (if applicable) into incredible surround or mixed channels that way the sound channels become merged sounding better, Or watch it on a tv with similar options.

Oh also on 2nd disc when hulk is battling the tanks, hulks pants seem to disapear/reappear...cant complain props to the smf crew for this one!!


Posted by Bakkoda on 06-08-2003 03:36 AM:

Blackwolf...


Your right. Lot of ppl do jump the gun and rate it. 2 hours after Hulk was posted soe moron even rated the movie itself.

BUT... This is the reviews. Criticism is a natural thing.


4/4/3.. Audio/Video arent even decent. I know its a WP but still. Movie itself is crap. Utter crap.


Posted by ophir on 06-08-2003 03:48 AM:

wonder if those black bars cover the date&time too, i'd really like to know how old this print is. would give me hope that the studio improved a _lot_ of things.


Posted by sensesfail958 on 06-08-2003 04:39 AM:

7/7/3... this movie was horrible... as bad as daredevil


Posted by a114funn on 06-08-2003 05:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by sensesfail958
7/7/3... this movie was horrible... as bad as daredevil


worse stroy line jumps all over the place


Posted by DieSeLBoy on 06-08-2003 06:12 AM:

Video: 8
I excelent job for a 2 week pre-rls. Video was a little on the dark side, but not too bad. there are some graphical glitches near the end of the movie, but nothing that takes away from the movie.

Sound:7
Not perfect, but you cant expect it to be. Didn't hear a buzz at all, but had kind of a hollow sound. At the climax action part of the movie, it is obvoius that the work is not finished by the missing of music/sfx from scenes. You dont get the full effect of how kick ass teh hulk is when he growls on the screen, but the audio is silent. I thought that the sound got a little off sync, but i'm not sure if it was the rip or my dvd player.

Movie:6
Maybe i missed some of the detail in the dialogue, but hulk and dad fight didnt make much sense to me. Just kinda poped in there for the visual effect department. I thought it was done really well with the filmography, using techiniques when transitioning between the scenes that make it seem like a comic book come to life. Plot was good thought, nice and straight forward, no unnecessary plot twists or stupid stuff like that. Should do OK at the box office

8/7/6


Posted by lax01 on 06-08-2003 06:40 AM:

I got the sample to see the quality of this "amazing" release....

who can listen to the audio out of the left channel and the action and soundtrack out of right? thats retarded and horrible encoding

sound: 3

video was alright

video: 6

movie: wow, I don't even need to see it....pure crap, I won't download the full release...not a chance in the world....

they can't pay me to see this crap...

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Posted by verde11 on 06-08-2003 06:53 AM:

Earlier someone was talking about how this movie seemed to drag at the begining unlike Spiderman. Some people suggested that since it is a workprint maybe the movie will be edited to make it better...well, we may not be in luck.

"It clocks in at well over two hours, which makes it a long and complex psychodrama--essentially an operatic father-son tussle that reminds me most of Frankenstein. It's not the original story you remember from the comic book, exactly. I have to admit I nearly nodded off a couple of times, but still, I can't wait to see it again."

(taken from: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click...e=1&rid=1160425)

As for the quality, I've only seen the sample (downloading now the whole movie now) but I'd rate it 7/5/?. But after I make it mono on my DVD player the sound may not be so weird with the two channels . I'm new to the scene though and therefore EXTREMELY new to workprints. Beats $10 at the theater anyday--2 weeks early no less!


Posted by Angelis on 06-08-2003 06:57 AM:

3 ugly black bars on the far right of the screen to hide serials, other than that it look just like any typical ugly screener...but for a pre release of 14 days (Which is Awsome) ...if you can't wait, this is well worth the download.


Posted by FuriousD on 06-08-2003 07:00 AM:

Thumbs down

Watched the whole thing.

Video - A bit dark here and there, somewhat blurry - but overall pretty good - 7

Audio - I understood everything fine, no hissing, sync'd fine, missing a lot of effects and music but that isnt the encode's fault - 7.

Movie - Complete shit. I cannot believe how they butchered this story. I can only hope that this is a very early workprint and that much has been changed prior to release. The story is jumpy, plot is nonexistent, acting is horrible (Jennifer Connolly is particularly bad or at least poorly written - no emotion whatsoever), and the computer animation looks like a computer game (except for the tanks). I would prefer seeing Lou Ferrigno "hulk out" than what they developed. - 2


7 7 2


Posted by CATBOX on 06-08-2003 07:00 AM:

And as far as this release goes: I have just watched the entire movie. Boy am I glad i didn't pay to see it in the theatre. You'll all have to judge for yourself, but this was one big letdown! The quality of the workprint is good. Better than the TS's that will hit the scene in a few weeks. There are two small black bars down in the bottom right that cover the serial #.(so the workprint couldn't be traced) Occassionally you will notice a tracking line right in the middle of the screen, that comes back haunt you for a little through the second disk. There ARE some sound effects missing. You really don't notice it too much until the desert scene near the end. Its mostly little things like no sound when someone gets punched, or when Hulk lands after jumping. There is one scene where his pants start glitching out, and you can see his massive hulk rear. One other scene where he digs out of the rock he's still in the composite form, they never finished rendering him. He looks like Shrek. Sound is hard to get used to. All speech comes out of left channel, and music out of the right. There are a few scenes where you have them blended.

6\8(for workprint)\6


Posted by digitaldt on 06-08-2003 07:02 AM:

i downloaded this workprint earlier today. what can i say... video wasn't bad.. as with the audio, dialogue came from the left speaker and music came from the right speaker... hmm, obviously, because it's a workprint, certain things weren't completed.. some of the music wasn't finished yet or some of the sound wasn't put in (like when the hulk in jumping around, but there are no thuds)... and he does lose his pants and goes butt naked for like 5 seconds... good thing for you homofags out there...

my ratings:
7/7/6

movie was alright. presentation of the movie was a bit bad. maybe because it's a workprint and those scenes they have yet to put in might affect what you would think of the movie?


Posted by Chewsmoka on 06-08-2003 07:42 AM:

Watched the sample on the PC, seen better workprints, but great pre anyways. Hulk looked kinda cartoonish.. gonna burn it and check it out.

PC - 6/6/?

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Dude, It wasn't there and still isn't... I was waiting to see what the pic looked like cuz the release was up, but there was no pic and i didn't find the sample, mo fo. Don't make me come and tie ur arms to ur chair and beat u silly with your own keyboard

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Will edit this after i get it.


Posted by bl0ss0m on 06-08-2003 08:37 AM:

First post

Just finished watching it. Not bad for a release this early. Sound would have been near perfect if it didn't have the dialog on the left channel and the right channel having the background music, excluding the missing soundeffects. The movie itself was confusing and Stan Lee made it more of a comic book now also.

6/6/4.5


Posted by motabus on 06-08-2003 09:08 AM:

movie was way toooooo slllllooooowwwww


Posted by VCDguy on 06-08-2003 09:18 AM:

YAY

I'm finally snatching this crap! I don't care if it sux....I like the sample for some reason...I have a feeling that the theatres version will be different in a good way. Anywayssssssssss gotta remember that it is a.....WORKPRINT and that alot can improve in the theaters so even if you see people saying, "this is crap" dont believe them. Go to the theaters and watch it for yourself.

As for qualityyyy (Judging from what i've seen so far 16:45 min)

Video has nice colors!!!! Just a fittle fuzzy but on a nice T.V it looks great so out of 10...i give 8.5 (Workprint)

Sound is absolutely FUCKED! I hate missing sounds, voodoo sounds on the right and left BUT i fixed that problem by doing some magic O_o.
7/10 Why 7? because it is CLEARRR

Movie....STILL WATCHING!! Ill get back to that.


Posted by gthtjtkt on 06-08-2003 09:42 AM:

Angry Has anyone watched this shit?

THIS MOVIE FUCKING SUCKS. THAT ANG LEE DIRECTOR SON OF A BITCH SHOULD BE SHOT. I GIVE IT A ZERO. FUCK IM PISSED. HAD SUCH A BORING STORY LINE. THE FIRST TIME THEY SHOW HULK IS 45 minutes in to the movie. Holy fuck! And why is he fighting is dad! Fuck it sucked. and the music was gay too, that ang lee bitch needs to understand this isn't his gay Crouching Tiger hidden pussy movie. That dumb Bastard, man i'm so pissed, I wish i could turn in to the Hulk I'd beat the crap out of him.

www.heyhomie.com THAT's how mad i am!


Posted by TriHFH on 06-08-2003 09:50 AM:

First thing: props to SMF for a *great* release! I got this a little after it was released, and watched through some of the movie. I don't understand how many people are complaining that it is missing SFX, and the movie sucks, etc., BECAUSE IT IS A WORKPRINT !!! I suggest that you don't rate this movie until you see it in theaters, because for all you know, they could make it a very good movie! (Not that I actually like the Hulk or anything.. but meh :/) So I give this a 6/5/? <--because I am going to wait until I see the final version of them movie before I judge how good it is.


Posted by Lucky13 on 06-08-2003 09:54 AM:

Just finished watching it. Overall not a bad movie.

7/6/7

Video reminded me of an old vhs tape, little dark in some parts but certainly watchable.

Having seen the trailers, I didnt go in expecting too much and I wasnt disappointed.

Glad I wasnt the only one to notice his magically disappearing pant leg.

I think having watched this once as a WP will make the theater experience a bit better as now I can try and spot differences in the actual rls. Atleast it will give me something to do thru the slow parts..


Posted by VCDguy on 06-08-2003 10:14 AM:

OMG

There is no way this is the final print. This is beyond crap. It's like my crap burnt and then molded. CD 1 was horrifically BORING holy cow. Seriously, maybe this was a decoy of the movie, no way universal studios and marvel could have made this a final copy.

I bet anyone that in the theaters it will be totally different (sounds, scenes, effects, etc)

This Workprint is a waste of time.
Just wait for the next cam or TS that comes out.

This is sad sad sad.

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Posted by on 06-08-2003 10:36 AM:

Definately an excellent pre, if you really really want to see this movie then grab this but those bars could get annoying and the quality is not that great either.

5/6/?


Posted by desertboy on 06-08-2003 10:45 AM:

Unwatchable shit, the video's ok except in any dark sequences which are horrible. The Hulk is obviously unfinished at least in some places the special effects are not all in place.

The sound has a horrid hiss really noticable when you turn it up oh and the film itself is the worst pile of egocentric crap I've ever seen and I've seen XXX.


4/4/1

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Posted by B18C5 on 06-08-2003 11:48 AM:

Not too shabby for a workprint, 7/5/5 Didn't like the movie too much, everyone will praise it now but after a while it'll be rubbish. This does seem similar to the Phone Booth workprint, the worse workprint I've seen must have been Boiler Room by EViLiSO, that was garbage.


Posted by paul333 on 06-08-2003 12:28 PM:

Lol at VcdGuy's comment

Ok i watched CD2...as a pre-release its watchable and the video's not bad even with the 2 small barts on right hand side.

Top marks for the group getting this so early

The Workprint to watch as a movie is ok but i felt it was kinda weird with the missings sound in some scenes ..you sit and watch action and its quiet which gives the whole movie a somewhat eerie feel or to use another term boring..

Sure hope the studio visits VCDQuality and makes MAJOR alterations to some of the scenes

paul333


Posted by sleeper0 on 06-08-2003 12:33 PM:

video was so-so, watchable but obviously a few vhs generations in there. To be expected for a great pre/workprint like this. Audio was fine when re-mixed to mono, a little over driven with some of the loud music but not too bad.

I agree with a lot of other people about the movie being low quality. None of the characters are sympathetic, the script jumps around a ton and half the time dialog seems like the two people arent even speaking to each other. Visually the film is decent, the comic book style cuts are neat even if they are over used all the san francisco hulk shots were awesome that and some of the fights were definitely the highlight of the movie. The last fight went down hill fast though... what can i say, ang lee or the writers or both really butchered this movie

5/6/4


Posted by djdilemma on 06-08-2003 12:49 PM:

AUDIO SUCKS THE MOVIE WAS SO SO IS THE HULK EVER GOING TO TALK


Posted by |V|USTANG_FAN on 06-08-2003 03:02 PM:

great for a pre, audio not bad either.
ill wait for a few more dozen releases though

7/6/8

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Posted by LiQuIdMuNkY on 06-08-2003 03:03 PM:

quote:

JohnnyWeb wrote on 06-07-2003 12:57 PM:
Hi Please help me! where did u get the Workprint of the Hulk?

Please help a Newbie!!! thx man



Fuck, i am really gettin sick of this shit. Every damn release i post to, someone messages me, to all future morons, STOP ASKING! NOBODY WILL TELL YOU!

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Posted by pezley on 06-08-2003 03:09 PM:

mr johnnyweb also pm'd me


sigh............. when will people learn


Posted by Dirty on 06-08-2003 04:07 PM:

From the sample:
This is watchable... if you're desperate to see this movie.

I'll wait for either 1) this comes out in theatres or 2) a better release of it is released. I think the sound is kinda crappy though, it feels like i'm watching a vhs tape that was made 10 years ago or something.

6/5/X


Posted by Soylent Green on 06-08-2003 04:09 PM:

based on watching the sample :

video seems like any other bad vhs screener quality , seems like the sound is kinda bad, but i guess its bareable for a two week pre.

all in all , i think im gonna DL this one.


Posted by NeVeRLiFt on 06-08-2003 04:19 PM:

Watched this last night on my 32" TV and it was good. Like watching a VHS tape... maybe a VHS tape going bad
Overall the quality was fair to good and the audio was ok.
There seemed to be some very mild audio sync at times other times its not even noticeable. The two small black bars are down in the right bottom corner and tucked out of the way good and do not ruin the movie. There is a small VHS tape looking glitch in the middle on the right side that gives it a VHS looking error.
Very fast and pretty good quality release guys!
Thanks

Video = 6
Audio = 7.5
Overall = 8 (used to love reading the comics when I was a kid and the movie did well IMHO)


Posted by DarKMooN on 06-08-2003 05:55 PM:

Wow, this is great considering the actual release date of the film. I wish i'd see more workprints come out! It really gives us an unfinalized view into some of the minor errors that go on within films.


Posted by ergibson83 on 06-08-2003 06:03 PM:

I just watched the entire workprint movie. It is pretty good for a unreleasesed movie. There are two bars on the bottom right-hand side of the screen. The effects in the movie are still buggy. The explosions are not all complete (atleast the sound of explosions). The Hulk animation is complete, except for one scene where you can tell they have not finished his cgi construction (the part where he is climbing out of the rocks in the desert). I thought it was alright, the beginning is very slow though. It takes about 40 minutes before he does his first transformation. The quality of the movie is fine. Definetly watchable. The sound is slightly off sync, but you can not really notice it (only if you are trying to notice). video rating: 7, sound: 6, and plot: 5. Hope this helps everyone.

Holla Back


Posted by Ovrkill on 06-08-2003 06:04 PM:

I'd have to say 6/6/7

decent wp, very watchable, and excellent pre.


Posted by Kn!ghTMarE on 06-08-2003 07:55 PM:

keep up the good work! 7/7/??

the only sound problem is the dialogue is on the left speaker and constant music goes on in the right speaker.

also i noticed the transitions between seens is very amateurish, must be just a temporary workprint thing.

Good shit guys!


Posted by Muzak on 06-08-2003 08:15 PM:

has anyone ever heard of "character developement"? its obvious they want to start a franchise with this movie, so they have to set up the background. to be honest, i thought spiderman started off much slower than this, and the action scenes dont even compare with the hulk smashing shit up. i liked the movie, and will be in line to watch in the theater. people judging and rating a movie off a workprint is just retarded.


Posted by oioidestroy on 06-08-2003 08:30 PM:

Hulk go SMASH

Very impresive release. Good movie too, one unlike the others. They took the comic part of the the movie a step farther. They have sequences in the movie where they have picture in picture. Also they take parts and turn them into cool comic drawings.
Only downfall is the lighting and the quality. You cant see the last fight seen very well, even when you bring the lighting up on your television. That was a little dissapointing. And some audio seems to be mising in different places durring some of the fighting seens but its hard to tell.
All in all, its just onother sweet Marvel movie. I would recomend it to any one. Just be sure to see it in the theaters when it comes out.

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Posted by pezley on 06-08-2003 08:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Muzak
has anyone ever heard of "character developement"?


Why is it everytime a marvel movies comes out i hear a phrase such as this ? .... can we not just have a "marvel" movie ..why are they always " character building " its pathetic

if it sucks ... it sucks .. dont try and hide it ... if the second one will be better how in anyway will the first manage to somehow be a better movie ? ... x2 was ok ... but the first still sucks ... so what they were building characters, it still sucked ass

face it ... all of these marvel movies arent very good ... spiderman is the only one that holds its own as a movie ... besides nightcrawler x2 realy wasnt very good .. more entertaining than the first ill give it , but still not as good as it should of been.

anyway that was my peice ... ciao


Posted by cartoon master on 06-08-2003 08:44 PM:

yeah i love the movie,
looking forward to see it in cinema in german at 3rd July.

for a wp is nothing to say, thats my opinion.

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Posted by kACKE on 06-08-2003 09:06 PM:

the quality is fine and the two bars on the right side of the picture dont spoil the effect at all.

to the movie itself:

its not a spiderman, but its better than daredevil which really sucked!

i liked the hulk they did a good job
the music to the film (danny elfman) remembered me a tiny bit of the black hawk down score (by hans zimmer) which doesnt mean its bad its rather the opposite

yeah the split screens or the pictures in the pictures remembered you of the comic book styles i liked it

to put it in a nutshell the movie is one of the better ones,
i really cant expect to see it at the theatres in Germany

GREETS to all Germans (hehe hoffe bin nich der einzige)


Posted by eternale12 on 06-08-2003 09:15 PM:

sup
anyone have a problem with buring this to a vcd and getting no audio except the music???? i was using an apex


overall crappy movie

hope this isn't even close to the final print!!

5/5/5


Posted by goku0815 on 06-08-2003 09:29 PM:

WOW just watched it..... and i must say :
PIC : 8 (better than many screeners!!!!!)
SOUND: 7 (would be a 9 if it was sourround...but its clear and you can understand everything)
MOVIE: 10
The Movie is awesome.....DRAMA & ACTION....and both is enough in it...i defenitly love it...but i must say as i saw that the effects were not complete on this workprint i was even more happy...i mean look at him...HE LOOKS GREAT...in some scenes, but if this is not complete..and i guess it is not complete at all...Ang said he finished the movie last wednesday...and i guess the workprint is about 2 or 3 months old...so image what they did to perfect it...I SAY A LOT!! Go to the cinema or download your first screener and compare it and be blown off what you can make with CGI!!!
I´ll be in the line in my GERMAN cinema on July 3rd and i will enjoy it....hope you do the same!

Thats all from me.
SMF => GOOD PRE-RELEASE... keep on the good work!


Posted by Kastro on 06-08-2003 10:06 PM:

Well, I just got done watching this release. It's watchable since it's a workprint. The quality isn't the worst I've seen, and the audio is decent until the end when it starts to get a little off track. The movie it self, eh. It was mostly boring, but the fight scenes were pretty damn nice I'll say.. 6/6/4


Posted by params on 06-08-2003 10:19 PM:

After watching the whole thing now I'll say this:

I heard some of the storyline a month ago and was VERY concerned about whatthey were doing to it.

Now, myconcerns are justified. Unless they edit this BIG TIME for final release this is going to get a huge dissing by the critics and will flop!

Can I have my 2 hours back please?


Posted by Ronz on 06-08-2003 11:04 PM:

I must admitt, the quality was better than i was expecting. Although the tracking line through the middle of the screen was very annoying.

I also think that the final release will need to be heavily edited. The film felt too long and some parts seemed drawn out and slow moving.

There are a number of missing sound effects that are obvious and the hulks pants do dissappear on occasion as the animation is not yet complete.

Will be interesting to see the final film release and compare to this version. Im sure there will be a lot of deleted scenes


Posted by dirtydilz on 06-08-2003 11:11 PM:

The following message contains Spoilers PLEASE BE WARNED!!




Spoiler Space





Spoiler Space



This has to be for myself the biggest dissapointment of a superhero flick ever.
I have been a hulk fan for as long as i can remeber and after they stopped making the TV series and the TV films i wished for the day when someone would remake it.
I have watched it twice and although you or i cannot comment on the CGI as this is NOT the finished Film, the story line is utter rubbish from beginning to end.
The first 30 mins of the film is not needed and should be started from when Bruce sets off to the lab on his bike as throughout the rest of the film we are bombarded with lengthy flashback's which are repeating the beginning again anyway.
The first time he changes was very poorly done no real good shots of his face just his pants and trainers?...
Tolbot's death was straight out of a comic book laughable and very sad.
And the end just seemed very rushed.
Daredevil was better than this and that wasn't brilliant.

I will not be queueing outside any cinema to see this again no matter how much they polish up the CGI and add any other little bits, the story is complete so we know that it wont change too much from what we have now seen.

If only we could bring back Bill and Lou all would be saved thankfully i have alot of the old TV series and films on dvd to watch over and over again.

I rate this film overall 3/10

Spider-Man II dont let me down.

Dilz


Posted by Muzak on 06-08-2003 11:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pezley


Why is it everytime a marvel movies comes out i hear a phrase such as this ? .... can we not just have a "marvel" movie ..why are they always " character building " its pathetic

if it sucks ... it sucks .. dont try and hide it ... if the second one will be better how in anyway will the first manage to somehow be a better movie ? ... x2 was ok ... but the first still sucks ... so what they were building characters, it still sucked ass

face it ... all of these marvel movies arent very good ... spiderman is the only one that holds its own as a movie ... besides nightcrawler x2 realy wasnt very good .. more entertaining than the first ill give it , but still not as good as it should of been.

anyway that was my peice ... ciao

just so happens, i dont think it fuckin sucks. and character development, im sorry to inform you, is an actual process in developing a story. apparently though, you wouldnt like this unless it was just an hour and a half of "HULK SMASH!!" type of movie. me, im glad they didnt take the low brow way out. character development is not a catch phrase like that stupid "angle" and whatever else people wanna bitch about every other month, its a vital part of a story.


Posted by Kalpz on 06-09-2003 01:05 AM:

Well said muzak i totally agree.

Story telling is needed to those who arent "into" the whole marvel universe. i personally think that the film was great, better than spiderman maybe!, Ang Lee done great with it, but thats my opinion...

I guess its whatever floats ur boat


Posted by rd66 on 06-09-2003 01:34 AM:

Just got the whole movie.....6/5/?



Anyway this is my first workprint and I think its really great..( not the audio or video)....but the fact that its the working print to the movie..I think this would make the best add on to the dvd when it comes out...think about it...the multiple pics that come up in some parts of it...all I can see in my head is all the people working on the movie sitting around watching each part to see what should be added or parts left out...i DONT think the final cut will be like this...but refined from the best parts(I hope)....anyway its still pretty cool.....................................


Posted by pezley on 06-09-2003 01:55 AM:

im not saying you dont need character development .... hell without it it would just suck .......

but on the other hand .. it seems thats all they have given us.

i mean ... how come spiderman managed to have good character development and a solid story in one movie ? the movie felt complete .... daredevil felt complete as a story ...just lacking as a movie... and xmen seems like it was only half finished......... they shouldn't need to rely on a sequel

also .. your comment about " hulk smash " ....... what the hell do you think the hulk is ? hes a manifestation of anger... he doesnt sit around picking his nose and looking at the stars ........ hes a badass , he hates banner ... he hate humans ... and he loves kicking ass ... the angrier he is the stronger he is.


Posted by Pescueso on 06-09-2003 02:38 AM:

5/4/2


Posted by Gecko on 06-09-2003 02:39 AM:

Quality equal to a slightly lower than average screener. A good comparison would be watching an 80's ex rental video.

Two black bars cover serial number and date I imagine. You forget they are there 5mins into the movie.

Sound is seperated into channels. Dialogue and sound effects on left channel, and music on the right channel. I merged the channels together into a single mono track as it was easier on the ears. Left unchanged it's a little distracting.

Movie was very long, and the flashbacks were a little tiresome. I wouldnt be suprised if there are some edits before screening. I wont comment anymore on the story as I am not sure it will remain the same in the theatrical release, and thats the release the director wishes people to see.

Special effects are not finished in a lot of scenes. Most noticeably when hulk climbs out of some rocks. At this point he is only a single pass non textured render. At other points there are bugs in the textures, including a part where his ass keeps showing outside his pants I would venture a guess with this workprint and say in hardly any of the scenes is the hulk totally finished.

The sound effects are not finished. At many points they are missing, or not mixed properly.

Anyone who is excited about this movie and downloads this release is an idiot. This is labeled a workprint, and should only be downloaded by fans of workprints. Most, like me are people that have an interesting in the mechanics of film making for which a release like this gives a better insight into 'how things work' than any 'behind the scenes' documenatry dvd extra ever could.

Anyone else should wait for a decent telesync (centropy) or *gasp* go see it in the cinema. Although I have to say, in anything but the most expensive and well equipped cinema, that experience is overrated.

Gecko


Posted by icangetanymovie on 06-09-2003 03:06 AM:

quality is pretty good concidering its almost 2 weeks early i dl it a week ago movie is awsome i get major ftp and movies as tradin this movie has gotten me 10 others cant complane 7/7/10


Posted by Muzak on 06-09-2003 03:43 AM:

i know this, but if thats all the movie was about, it would suck as a story. if you want to see hulk just smash shit up, get the game, its quite adept at filling that need (just got finished playing it, lol). i know thats what the hulks about, but the whole story isnt just the hulk. and i agree that daredevil sucked as a movie, and that the first xmen did as well. to me, the first xmen went way to far from the comic. i never was a daredevil fan, so i cant say how that was. point is, i think they did a decent job of cluing new people in on whats going on, as they have to with a big movie. yes, as a hulk fan, i would have like to see more of em, but it wasnt as bad as you people are making it out to be. all the consternation seems to stem from people expecting more smash scenes. my point it what would spiderman have been if all he did was swing around? or shoot his web? exactly, you have to build shit up.


Posted by RUiNU on 06-09-2003 04:14 AM:

I would like to start out by saying I'm sorry for posting twice. I also would like to point out that I have watched it twice . I loved this movie for what it was "A workingprint" and it had it flaws but alot of finished movies also have there flaws . I liked the development of the cractors and the more indepth expanation of how and why he becomes the hulk. I also like that the hulk dose talk"punny human" he says in a dream sequence. I know that the studio will edit this for time cause it is over 2 hours and it might make it better for the general public , but I liked it as is and when they get all the sfx and vfx done it will be well woth the wait in line at the theaters

BTW I cant spell woth a shiat so dont flame me about spelling


Posted by spdabbs on 06-09-2003 05:40 AM:

This release was a nice surprise - until I watched it. The quality is OK, black bars aren't too intrusive. The audio is fixable and clear enough. The movie really does SUCK!!!! The biggest letdown since Jurassic Park (1,2 and 3). What a pile of poo!

Right, now that's off my chest, well done for such an early pre SMF. Let's hope future releases are as good, but of better movies!!!


Posted by prisoner2k on 06-09-2003 05:54 AM:

Temp music?

Sorry if someone has mentioned this already, but I didn't have time to dig through 130+ posts...

About a third of the music in the workprint is from Peter Gabriel's "Last Temptation of Christ" score. Anyone know where the rest of the temp score comes from, or what Elfman's actual score sounds like?

I liked the movie quite a bit, but I don't think it will have quite the crossover appeal as something like "Spider-Man" or even "X2." Lee made an Ang Lee movie first, a comic book movie second, and a summer, popcorn action flick dead last.

I'm very curious to see this in a theater now, with all of the sfx and real music applied. Anyone think (beyond their personal desires for edits) that the final cut of the film will be significantly different from this?

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Posted by RockyBoner on 06-09-2003 06:33 AM:

Smile Hulkie

This is a 2 week pre of one of the most anticipated movies of the summer, what more can we ask for? Sure there are some "bloopers" but it is a workprint. Video was dark but just as good as some of the VHS screeners Ive gotten......6.5

Now, as for the Audio, on my PC, both channels are mied and it sounds good.....7. As for after its burnt to VCD, WHAT HAPPENED?! I hear most voices and nearly no sound effects. When I turn it up to a deafening roar, I can hear, faintly, some of the music but the voices are nearly unbearable. So after the burn its about a 4.

Regarding the actual movie, I think its what Hulk is all about. And I agree, that any franchise is going to need some "character development". And to those complaining about the lack of the Hulk for the first bit of the movie, must have never seen the series with Bixby/Ferrigno, Hulk only appeared twice for about 30 seconds each time, once near the middle and once during the last 10 mins. Anyhoo, Ill spend my loot to take the family to see this one, I give the it an 8.

By the way, any help on the sound prob after burning would be greatly appreciated.


Posted by CFioren317 on 06-09-2003 07:17 AM:

SPOILERS

Just finished up the movie...quality-wise, I give this a 7 for video and a 6 for audio. My review is below...I give it an 8

...

:: People, if you wanna discuss the movie in-depth, take it to the MOVIE DISCUSSION section. And please use SPOILER tags. -K::


Posted by Krakn3Dfx on 06-09-2003 07:35 AM:

Man, I wish what I dl'd looked anywhere nearly as good as the sample JPG!

Anyway, first half of the movie is a snorefest, I recommend coming into the movie about halfway through, maybe watch the Hulk vs. Thor TV movie and then watch it. The second half, well, the CG Hulk is a disaster IMO, seems to be smarter and more deliberate than I remember the Hulk of old ever being, and the jumping, will it ever end? Hulk looks like a sick, bloated Pillsbury Doe Boy who just hit puberty, and why does he always look like he's got that toy car from the Jackass Movie shoved up his sphincter?

I did find the occasional disappearing CG purple shorts humorous, if only they would leave it that way for the theatrical release, I bet it would wake people up to realize that they're checking out a big green asscheek on the screen.

All in all, a very disappointing movie that I was totally looking forward to. Actors are uninspiring, they all seemed to just be there for a paycheck...oh wait, they were all just there for a paycheck! Talk about the biggest roundup of has-beens and never-weres in a single movie since Canonball Run 2! Hopefully The League of Gentleman will be more exciting.

I give it a 5/4/2


Posted by dogolek on 06-09-2003 08:03 AM:

this movie looks awesome. Though I can't give it a full review yet until I see the final product two weeks from now. But it looks really good ! One thing I can say though workprints not the best way to watch movie as this caliber.
8/8/??


Posted by extcyrolls on 06-09-2003 09:45 AM:

Just got done watching the movie, picture was decent kind of standard for a workprint, sounds was really nice. Mad props for the Xtreme pre

6/7.5/7


Posted by TheBeyonder on 06-09-2003 10:54 AM:

Unhappy ....not so good as i thought

cuz da workprint gots da complete "own" storyline i´ll give it a 4
video was okay - 8(for workprint)
sound - 5 (not da best but you could understand everything "clear" )

8/5/4

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Posted by Bluntmaster on 06-09-2003 11:01 AM:

this very watchable. video= 6, sound= 5, film= 4.
I don't mind the animated hulk, shame about how he's used


Posted by ophir on 06-09-2003 01:16 PM:

just finished watching this, and sniff everything is cool but the damn story line, boring! hulk's main enemy is just absolutely ludicrous, and especially the final fight. i think ang lee did a great job, the split screens were cool, but it was the damn writers fault. cd1 was okay, started getting boring in the middle of cd2 and on. i'll go watch this on the big screen definitely to see how it looks and turns out.

based on the whole movie, not sample

5 / 5 / 6

picture was a bit gross throughout the whole movie since it was a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of the workprint.

audio was blah, voice on one side and the music on the other, even with mono selected it didn't work to well. the music was too loud to make clear the dialogues at times.

this is cool to have if you are a collector, i'll definitely check to see what changes they made in the final movie.


Posted by EnjoySmeat on 06-09-2003 02:43 PM:

Exclamation

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=15389

Feast your eyes on that one boys...and girls...


Posted by m2nal on 06-09-2003 04:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by EnjoySmeat
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=15389

Feast your eyes on that one boys...and girls...




I've been readin AICN since it opened back in 96-97 and that article they posted bout the the HULK WORKPRINT is the biggest load of hypocritical @$Q# ever. The whole site became famous for finding every way in the book on getting access to movies early on. Hell they even reviewed a bootleg of AOTC 2 months before the movie came out, looks like their gettin po'd strictly cause the early reviews are comin back negative...............

:: cheers for the link to, i made a post about it here - http://www.vcdquality.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21149 - pHo


Posted by jedimasteryoda on 06-09-2003 04:26 PM:

Hulk Sucks

Great time on the release couldn't ask for much better for such an early release. Video looks like a used VHS tape and the sound was good compared to other early releases.


Posted by EckY on 06-10-2003 06:33 AM:

eh?

Nobody noticed the fact that you dont get to see Hulk attacking the dogs in between discs and the ending seems a little incomplete just see the hulk smash into a wall then its over. Didnt like that too much.


Posted by bigjoe075 on 06-10-2003 06:55 AM:

Looks like we got a lot of Steven Segal fans in here.......



Oh well. Most of these types wouldn't know good acting or story lines/ plot development if it walked up and punched them in the nose. This movie rocked! It was the best movie I've seen in the last 5 years. No doubt it will rule the year as far as grosses go and Spiderman will fall.


Posted by Spllouder on 06-10-2003 07:33 AM:

Great pre rls. 6/6/?


Posted by frak on 06-10-2003 09:58 AM:

Just watched the release.

Video is watchable.. not the best but not terrible either. The black bars on the lower right hand side corner are pretty small and hardly noticable after like 2 minutes.

the sound is pretty mediocre. They should have it through a few filters to clean it up better.

The hulk himself is just stupid lookin.

anyhow, for a pre thats 2 weeks early... i'd say it's pretty damn good.

6/5/5

-frakU


Posted by xenomorph on 06-10-2003 11:22 AM:

well what can i say....... x men was ok'ish, spiderman was good, daredevil wes getting there, x2 was v good but the hulk was by far the best ever. for the 1st time i acctually felt as though i was watching a marvel movie the way its edited is pure genius.
ok its a workprint and no way is the 1st half gonna b as long, and there is sound effects and cgi unfinished but no way did it affect the movie for me.
video 6, better than i expected
audio 5, clear but seperated on to 2 channels music on right and sound effects and dialogue on left.

movie 10!!!!!!!!!!

all i have to say now is roll on the ctp ts. p.s no angle please.

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Posted by compsci on 06-10-2003 08:32 PM:

People, this is a workprint. How can you post a review about something which isn't even finished? Anyways, I watched the so called "quality" of this movie and sorry to say it will get poor marks since it is a workprint.

3/3/3


Posted by team_insomniac on 06-11-2003 03:26 AM:

Crouching Mutated Pooch / Hidden Hulk

Hats off – Good release

6/6/Please GOD make me a bird so I can fly far far away!!!

This is a complete disgrace to any avid comic book reader in the past 30 years.

COMIC BOOK MOVIES should be about the characters and stay true to their origin! True to their Continuity! True to the fans that made this character even in contention to be a movie.

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Posted by yellowkid on 06-12-2003 02:19 AM:

I waited after seeing a special screening of the film inNYC on monday to view the workprint.What's on the workprint is basically very close to the final cut of the movie with some fx and sound missing.For the workprint I give it a 6 for video quality and a 5 for the audio.As for the movie , this is far superior to daredevil and spiderman....


6/5/10


Posted by BamBamPro. on 06-12-2003 06:40 PM:

Awesome movie!Great quality!

PIC=8
SOUND=7
MOVIE=9.5



This is a 1 in a million release so remember that the next time you complain about this release.This is a very good release!Good to see smf back in the game!


Posted by JD4Eva645 on 06-13-2003 01:11 AM:

WTF IS THAT MAN THIS MOVIE IS SO GAY HOW ARE U GUYS RATING THIS MOVIE A 8s and 9s THIS MOVIE IS HORRIBLE I KNOW ITS FAKE BUT U CANT MAKE SOME1 FALL OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND LAND ON THE GROUD PERFECTLY FINE WTF IS THESES NANOMEDS THIS MOVIE WAS A WASTE OF FILM I AGREE WITH THA OTHER REPLY IT DOES LOOK LIKE SHREK O/DED ON ALTOIDS OR SUM SHYT...KIDS MOVIE MAN...EVEN THEY WONT LIKE IT...I THOUGHT THIS MOVIE WAS WAY BETTER MAN.... 7.9/7/2

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Posted by LOLobo on 06-13-2003 06:00 AM:

The ending on this movie sucks soooo bad. I hope that the one that is release in the theaters is edited with a totally different ending. Really, the envent in the last 20min - 1/2 hour don't make an ounce of sense. If the actual movie has the same ending, then this flick will be the biggest disapointment of the summer.


Posted by Giphted_Retard on 06-13-2003 01:36 PM:

almost 10 pages on this thread like wtf?..So much to say about a lousy ass Workprint?..Y even a critique a wp, burn it, and go thru the fukkin trouble of muxing the sound, cuz it "isnt easy on the ears"..get a fucking life already, geezes chrriiiiist!!..

Movie is ass, plain n simple..Special effects is what ruins it..Doesnt need all the shit..The original series had a muscle bound mofo, painted green, and it owned..Using a REAL PERSON looks 10 times better, and adds to the realism, making it more believable..NOT fucking Shreck on Steroids.. and to bother even rating the shit, is a waste of time..Its a fukkin WP, get a clue people..

K ill rate it anyways, and totally contradict myself on that part , BUT ONLY cuz i seen the sample..Ya couldnt pay enuff to download that whole mess..

6/5/pfffff


Posted by sup444 on 06-14-2003 07:27 AM:

7/7/7


Posted by napski on 06-14-2003 04:59 PM:

Cool KICKS ASS!

First of all, this is a workprint so its not the final version. If any of you noticed a lot of special effects and sounds were left out of this verison because...ITS A WORKPRINT!

Now, onto the quality of this...for such an early release its really not bad. I was impressed for the quality of the video & audio being this good.

But in all honesty folks, the flick is not bad. OK, the script is not Academy Award quality here, but neither was the Matrix Reloaded or X-Men 2 (which I thought had HORRIBLE scripts). To me the movie "Equilibrium" had a much better story and script than M.R.

So do you expect when you see this movie, hmm? ITS A COMIC BOOK CHARACTER! And from what I saw in this movie, it delievers what is to be expected from a comic book character. Ang Lee did a great job of combining both the comic story and the TV series into this one movie...it must have been a seriously difficult challenge for him, and he did very well.

Oh yes, the Hulk does NOT look like Shrek. To be honest, I thought Shrek sucked BIG time and it was a horrible waste of an Academy Award.

I bet the finished product of The Hulk will be very entertaining, which is what I am looking for. Heck, even this workprint BLOWS Daredevil away!

My opinion of this release:
7/7/9.5


Posted by Zenman on 06-18-2003 06:03 AM:

only had one problem playing it on one of my DVD players but it worked on my other one. Props for the pre & nice release.

::No requests -K::

sorry


Posted by L-B-A on 06-20-2003 12:04 AM:

3 bars on right of the screen...noticable. So-so rls........very shweet timing on the 2 weeks ahead! 6/6/x

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Posted by littleginzo72 on 06-20-2003 12:08 AM:

hmm.. when i burned my copy, i can't even hear the talking...all i hear is the music /;


Posted by Scorch on 06-26-2003 02:23 AM:

Just wanted you guys to see this.. as the guy who posted this is no longer able to read comments..

UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif., June 25 /PRNewswire/ -- After learning that a version of its film, "The Hulk," had become available for illegal downloading on the Internet two weeks before its theatrical release, Universal initiated an immediate investigation and then referred the matter to the FBI. The Department of Justice took immediate action on the matter and today, Kerry Gonzalez, the individual who posted "The Hulk" on the Internet, pled guilty to felony copyright infringement; he faces a sentence of up to three years in federal prison.

"We are deeply grateful to the FBI and the Department of Justice for their prompt action in finding and punishing the individual responsible for posting a version of 'The Hulk' on the Internet," said Karen Randall, Executive Vice President and General Counsel, Vivendi UNIVERSAL Entertainment.

"This investigation proves decisively that the Internet is not an anonymous place, and illegal conduct is transparent and traceable. Universal Studios will pursue aggressively and hold accountable to the fullest extent of the law those who steal or abuse its intellectual property by illegally uploading or downloading it on the Internet."

Rick Finkelstein, President and Chief Operating Officer, Universal Pictures, added, "It took almost two years to complete the 'The Hulk.' Given the extraordinary level of talent, significant cost and tireless effort that went into creating this outstanding entertainment experience, we believe 'The Hulk' and all of our films deserve to be enjoyed in their optimal form and environment. Unfortunately, there is a small group of people who feel it is acceptable to steal our copyrighted films and make them available for free. Obviously, if this behavior went unchecked, we would not be able to produce and deliver films of the caliber of 'The Hulk' to the movie going public at large. We owe it to our filmmakers and to the millions and millions of law abiding citizens who enjoy the movie-going experience week in and week out as one of their primary forms of entertainment to aggressively pursue those responsible for the theft of our property, and we intend to do just that."

Vivendi UNIVERSAL Entertainment is the U.S.-based film, television and recreation entity of Vivendi Universal, a global media and communications company.

For further information please contact Susan N. Fleishman, +1-818-777-8063, or Cindy Gardner, +1-818-777-2581, both of Vivendi UNIVERSAL Entertainment.


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030625/law067_1.html


Posted by BestBoot on 08-29-2003 07:20 AM:

Video: 5 not so good
Audio: 4 a little loud
Movie: Very Cool Gotta Get The DVD


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