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Posted by Justin_Case on 07-01-2004 07:08 PM:

Spider-Man 2 - TELESYNC - VideoCD

man Videocd's knocking em dead.

Centropy did a better job @ Spiderman but, but Videocd's the best group around these days

V:9
A:10
M:9

Now lets read the posts from retards that don't understand that Comic Book Movies are based on individual issues in the series, so stop fucking comparing them to each other and just watch dat shiat

but thats just my 420 cents

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Posted by frankwhite23 on 07-01-2004 07:09 PM:

9/9/7

what else to say other than videocd is on top of the game right now.


Posted by SNooF671 on 07-01-2004 07:12 PM:

its very good quality, i miss centropy tho.. why is it with certain videocd rls's im seeing slow pauses in the movie, i dont know if its me or if its the movie tho. I watched the movie and i thought it was pretty good.

8/8/7


Posted by firefighter on 07-01-2004 07:13 PM:

Pretty nice , watched this movie in theaters , VideoCD's copy seems a bit to cropped 1/2 heads cut off which we're in the theater movie. Colors seem a tad dark and the colors seem to vibrant at times. Sound is excellet per usual. 1 days after premeier Great Job VideoCD. As for a TeleSync pretty good. Movie not going to spoil but was *ok* at best in my opinion. Dry spots in the plot , too much romance, Hollywood didnt follow comic close as they gave too much info in Spiderman 2 if their thinking of making a Spiderman 3/4.


7/9/6

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Posted by Neversoft on 07-01-2004 07:18 PM:

Not a bad TS, at least as good as VideoCD's other recent releases... 7/9/? (movie is getting favourable reviews though)

I'm watching the movie tonight, if I like it enough I'll come back and edit some comments in.



:: EDIT :: Better than the first, if a little bit violent for the young 'uns in parts. Far too much lovey-dovey shit for my liking, they could've cut out the bits with Spidey wrestling with inner turmoil and just got on with more "Spidering" - still, a pretty decent movie: 7/9/7


Posted by YooHoo on 07-01-2004 07:26 PM:

Sweet fucking release as usual from the folks at VideoCD. tad dark in some spots, but overall awesome. Will deifnately do till a DVD Scr or Retail. As for the movie itself, I personally thought it was better than the first one. The elevator scene was hilarious. I saw this in the theatre last night and everyone loved the elevator scene. You can definately tell that they spent $54 million on digital effects. Oh, almost forgot, the sound is awesome too

8/9/9


Posted by pHo on 07-01-2004 07:28 PM:

it does feel a bit cropped, but its not really a major issue. i remember when old school came out, the entire 2.35:1 image was on screen, and i found it rather hard to make it all out in a TS state (even with a good camera)

halfway thru watching it and got lumbered on here to do work, dangit. its great so far tho... no complaints about picture or sound, lots of specs on teh print tho for some reason. oh and its a bit undersized, nearly 10% per disc (nfo rar count is wrong)

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Posted by rockford on 07-01-2004 07:32 PM:

Excellent as always, thanks VideoCD!

I esp love their new little intro!

8/9/?

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Posted by Ibegoat on 07-01-2004 07:36 PM:

I saw this movie in the theaters last night and it was terrible. I ended up leaving before it was over because it was just so boring. Looking at the sample the release is what you'd expect from videoCD these days, i have no intentions of downloading the whole release because the movie isnt worth the bandwidth or time.

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Posted by harry420 on 07-01-2004 07:36 PM:

well done telesync brilliant print keep it up...........


Posted by Debo on 07-01-2004 07:38 PM:

looks good
8/8
gona watch the movie tonight

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Posted by pHizZ on 07-01-2004 07:46 PM:

Watching this. Wish they'd go public with the 3CD, though.

7/9/8 (so far)


Posted by PhAnToMs on 07-01-2004 07:59 PM:

saw movie in theaters very very good sequel fully loaded..10

video is very good in this although it is a bit zoomed in ..9

audio is perfect the scene in the sample u can hear that it is really sterreo by the car going from left to right... 10

go see it in theaters be part of a record breaking weekend

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Posted by pjfan281 on 07-01-2004 08:38 PM:

looks pretty good from sample. waiting on 3cd version though


Posted by BeTo on 07-01-2004 08:55 PM:

Nice rls worth the download also i liked the intro from videocd kinda give me some ideas lol


Posted by kezm on 07-01-2004 08:59 PM:

looks same as always

yes a little cropped but better than cam by a long way


Posted by stezo2k on 07-01-2004 09:13 PM:

very nice release, colours are good, picture quality is superb for a telesync and the sound is about the same

nice quick release

9/8/?


Posted by Lore_Xe on 07-01-2004 09:18 PM:

Bit cropped
Can't fault the audio

good release

7/9/7


Posted by mikeyrana on 07-01-2004 09:39 PM:

9/9/10 nuff said


Posted by UltrA1 on 07-01-2004 10:01 PM:

SpiderMan.2.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD Ts the best copy out..and should be til the dvd rels.

Sounds like DtS Audio, at least killer surround for a svcd.
My home stereo 7.1 has Dts, same as my dvd plyr, Dts displays the led's when in playing Dts format but not from a burned disc.

Video 9.8
Audio 9.8
Seeing the full thing...
Movie 9.8 Good Ending..
Can't wait for Spiderman 3................


Posted by JimAdkins on 07-01-2004 10:23 PM:

Just watched the sample. Nice work VideoCD!! You guys are really ripping it up these days.

8/9/? Will watch the movie tonight. Heard it's pretty good though.


Posted by venompowers on 07-01-2004 10:39 PM:

Great TS, VideoCD is still #1 in my book keep up the great work guys

Video: 8

Sound:8

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Posted by BirdySOHC on 07-01-2004 10:39 PM:

Great job here.

8.10.10

If the source was 3CD and ran through a few filters, thats about the only way to top it.


Posted by exorcist on 07-01-2004 10:45 PM:

the video looks incredible on my Sony Wega. Sound is great too

9/9.5/9


Posted by BLUE-NEO on 07-01-2004 11:27 PM:

I won't say great job, but I will say good job. would have been nice to see a 3 disc copy with the full intro and some end credits, the pic isn't that great. I've seen some videocd releases look much better than this...even the Terminal looked better, shit. Ella Enchanted looked better. Overall this is the best svcd telesync available.
I saw the movie in the theaters midnight Tuesday..and it made part 1 look like a joke. Great movie no doubt this is the best sequel I've seen when making a part 2 to anything.

7/9/10 movie kicked major ass...Props to Sam Raimi

EDIT JULY 6th: Got the Internal 3 Disc Version. Very Big Difference in Quality..I'm amazed and they fixed the cropping issues..Clarity is Lovely. Still Pissed they didn't add the complete intro..but overall its better and still nice to have as a collectors item.

INTERNAL: 9/9/10 beautiful

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Posted by b8b on 07-01-2004 11:43 PM:

PAL?

lame newby question (sorry): This is a PAL version, so will it work on my APEX/USA NTSC TV as all other VCD/SVCD's I've gotten in the past?
Thx,
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Posted by Inise on 07-01-2004 11:53 PM:

nice release!

8.5/9/x


Posted by snozzler29 on 07-02-2004 12:16 AM:

videocd just cant do wrong it would seem lol

pic 8

sound 9

movie 10

i love spiderman ( not enough to fuck him you understand )


Posted by vip3r on 07-02-2004 12:31 AM:

this movie is so much better than the first, especially when you see it at the theater, but great job videocd, loved the speed

8/8/10


Posted by Pickles on 07-02-2004 12:40 AM:

Watched this in the theatres and on my dvd player. Movie was good but I really expected more. As someone stated "too much love in it, and didn't follow the comic close enough." Overall a very nice release.
Audio 9
Video 9
Movie 8.5


Posted by Cabana Boy on 07-02-2004 12:49 AM:

My first post here after using this site so many times.

This release was very watchable (coudn't wait for UK release so had to see it). Up to Video-CD standards, and after watching the POT release last night, didn't really notice the cropping...too much. Sound was excellent.

The film itself wasn't all I'd hoped for in some areas but surpassed expectations in most. Thoroughly entertaining and really delved into the characters. I've heard some describe it as being like 'The Empire Strikes Back' in the way it surpasses the original and isn't just shallow eye candy like most blockbusters, to which I would agree.

Anyway roll on the UK release so I can watch it properly


7/9/8.5ish


Posted by Tork on 07-02-2004 12:50 AM:

Agreed, I liked this movie much more then the first. Now I know what all these actions movies were missing, and thats emotion and a good story. Props to VideoCD for this great release. I Watched this movie like 3 times already and enjoyed it and will be watching it once more.

8/8/9


Posted by Coalgrove on 07-02-2004 12:55 AM:

This is one movie that has to be seen on the big screen. This copy is good for watching the 2nd and 3rd time. But it's a must see big screen movie


Posted by zangano on 07-02-2004 12:57 AM:

from sample
7/8

what is this i kept reading about low bitrate? ive not get whole thing


Posted by deano21 on 07-02-2004 03:15 AM:

very good release pic great nothing wrong that i can see audio brilliant

pic 9
aud 9
film 10

this 1 will be better becoz hes actually spiderman in the first 1 it took time for him to become him witch was a tad boring well done videoCD for this


Posted by petrocs on 07-02-2004 03:33 AM:

Fantastic movie..nice print

8,9,100000000000000000000000000

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Posted by ams30gts on 07-02-2004 05:08 AM:

very nice quality.

8/8/8


Posted by dalton4life on 07-02-2004 05:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PhreaK
Watched this in the theatres and on my dvd player. Movie was good but I really expected more. As someone stated "too much love in it, and didn't follow the comic close enough." Overall a very nice release.
Audio 9
Video 9
Movie 8.5




I'm in total agreement. This was a very good movie but didn't follow the comic book as close as the 1st movie. Diehard comicbook fans may like the 1st movie better. I did anyway. Good video. Great Sound. Not the best video CD release in term of video but great sound as always.

8/9/9

Now I saw this at the theater last night and lightning struck the place and the movie went for 10 minutes 15 minutes into and then movie cut off right when the credits came up. Can you believe that?

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Posted by Bynemz on 07-02-2004 05:40 AM:

Not the best VideoCD has done lately but kicks ass over that cam job.

7video
8audio
8 full movie


Posted by SNooF671 on 07-02-2004 06:20 AM:

has anyone had problems with videocd releases, and constant slow pauses thru the movie. Its only videocd releases i have problem with, just curious if anyone else had the problem


Posted by bcool2k on 07-02-2004 07:36 AM:

Wow what speed.. I knew this rls would be rushed.. but 2 cds for Spiderman 2 which clocks in at over 2hours + just don't seem right.. Pic is very vibrant and sometimes dark.. new intro Videocd is kinda kewl...just like XPD.. they've earned it...PROPS on excellent SVCD TS... i'm sure someone will try and top it and a non real TC will come out.. but do yourself a favor go see in the theatre 1st.. Not a big fan of Doc Oc and plot drags at times,but alot to cover and its done very well.. I loved the movie..


8/8/9.5


I want the 3cd Internal as well.. LOL like it won't be everywhere if they rls it..


can't wait for DVDSCR or higher.. Best movie of Summer!!!


Posted by PlasmaWhore on 07-02-2004 08:30 AM:

Very good quality 9.5/10/9. I didn't notice much cropping, except in the credits. The blacks were crisp, but a little bright. Overall one of the best telesyncs I've seen by VideoCD.


Posted by horizonstar on 07-02-2004 08:33 AM:

Great movie, great quality. Thx, frogs!

8/9/9

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Posted by renegade on 07-02-2004 08:35 AM:

after watching on standalone 7/9/8.


Posted by scotty_2_hot on 07-02-2004 08:48 AM:

...

7.5/9/10

Great movie, overall. The quality's pretty good, it's pretty hard to see during the dark parts, but overall a really good release. During the intro, you'd notice that it's kinda zoomed in, but you can't really tell that much while you're watching the movie. Great release, specially it being out a day after the opening and all.


Posted by Jurai on 07-02-2004 09:08 AM:

maybe my mpeg2 codecs suck, but i saw ALOT of frequent video artifacts in the stream, example:

http://jurai.free.fr/spiderman.jpg

anyone else see these? show up and last for 1 frame, but appear frequently

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Posted by blue_bimma on 07-02-2004 09:18 AM:

is it me, or was there something missing between disc 1 & 2? Disc 2 jumps to the scene where Peter is talking to his uncle.

8.5/9/5.5


Posted by on 07-02-2004 09:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai
maybe my mpeg2 codecs suck, but i saw ALOT of frequent video artifacts in the stream, example:

http://jurai.free.fr/spiderman.jpg

anyone else see these? show up and last for 1 frame, but appear frequently



yeah i seen that alot


Posted by EmPreSS on 07-02-2004 09:28 AM:

Maybe my sound system is messed up... I don't know. But, for me the audio goes down very low and then up again. Very strange. It does it in a sequence... down-up... down-up.... etc...

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Posted by frak on 07-02-2004 10:01 AM:

watched this on the TV.

VCD is just unreal these days. I don't even bother looking
at the samples anymore.. you know it's gonna be good.

video: 8.5
audio: 8
movie: 8


Posted by desertboy on 07-02-2004 10:11 AM:

I was waiting for a decent copy of this before I watched it (Live in the UK not out till mid July) I had to wait a day.

One of the best TS's this year.

8.5/9/8.5

I loved the film it slightly desynced on powerdvd, was fine in media player and on my xbox.

A pity Sam Raimi's not doing the 3rd film.

VideoCD's little intro was cool as well

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Posted by BeTo on 07-02-2004 10:24 AM:

Hey i have a question for thos with real experience in this, its about the audio stuff

how do i know what type of audio like DTS or another type is used in any rls when the nfo dont say it, ive read posts from peaple that say that the DTS light or the dolby digital light turns on when playing certain movies so i dont want to chek this way i want to check the audio type any other way if possible let me know guys TIA!


Posted by greenskin on 07-02-2004 10:53 AM:

spiderman 2 svcd videocd

Just watched the whole movie last night and I say 9/9/10 thanx to VIDEO CD for a great release so quickly


Posted by dragontm on 07-02-2004 12:06 PM:

ok videocd u keep coming with the goods so i say thank you again
so this 3cd version can anyone tell me what difference it will make to this great release?


Posted by I am X on 07-02-2004 12:19 PM:

Hmmmm. Well, after watching it on my standalone, without giving anything away, let me say that in the sequel, quite a few "loose ends" were taken care of. Also, they opened it wide up for a 3rd one. Movie was good. I liked Doc Ock better than the Goblin, but that's cuz I'm a CGI whore. The octo arms were SUPER sweet. Molina did a good job as Doc Ock. The movie was decent. I'd say about a tie with the 1st one in terms of excitement, but the effects pushed this one over the edge as being better to me.
The video quality was good, but a tad dark and brown. Just a TAD this time. Used TMPGEnc Plus to clean it up some. Release was not the best the VideoCD has put out, but it's definitely in the upper half in terms of quality. "Shrek 2", "Mean Girls", "New York Minute" were all MUCH cleaner in quality than this one. I would've thought that they would've gone the extra mile and sent out a bit of a cleaner version, since this was such a huge movie in terms of popularity.

Video 7
Audio 8
Movie 8

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Posted by BONE on 07-02-2004 02:09 PM:

looking at the bins in VLC .. slight tilt .. nice video, great audio

8/9/?

btw, Sam IS directing the 3rd installment and Toby will star (according to Toby on Howard Stern this morning)


Posted by Movie_Insider on 07-02-2004 02:20 PM:

Thumbs up

OutStanding Thats all that needs to be said. 9/9/9


Posted by kennyg_uk on 07-02-2004 03:02 PM:

7/9/8

Great picture but a lot of green artifacts popping up here and there, would have been an 8 or 9 for picture had Video CD not raised the bar so high on Telesyncs

Audio was perfect, Film was better then the first. Been left WIDE open for a third, still think Spidey looks way to blatently CGI Glossy when he's flyinf around. Doc Ock ruled and the Newspaper Editor had even more funnier lines this time.


Posted by SleepWalker on 07-02-2004 03:41 PM:

9/8/7

artifacts were barely noticable for me. audio seemed a bit faint. still videocd is doing a great job!

i liked that intro they made.


Posted by BHX on 07-02-2004 05:41 PM:

Just got this release, I say 8/8/9

Great picture and audio, and loved the film (well from what I could see, had to watch the POT release to view it all).

I had a serious problem with mine, when I went to convert the flick the first CD was split into 2 parts (BTW I am using VCDGear), then after converting it fully using TMPGenc the whole thing seemed to be messed up, when the opening credits are playing the movie freezes on this one frame of Spiderman and stays like that all the way through even though the audio keeps playing. Does anybody know what I have done wrong? And how to fix it? Would really like to see the start without having to watch the POT release aswell

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Posted by LOLobo on 07-02-2004 06:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai
maybe my mpeg2 codecs suck, but i saw ALOT of frequent video artifacts in the stream, example:

http://jurai.free.fr/spiderman.jpg

anyone else see these? show up and last for 1 frame, but appear frequently



***SPOILER WARNING***

Exactly right, a lot of it.

Saw last night on stand alone w/ 4yr old starting at 1 am (He woke up just to see it!) He cried when Peter says he "will be Spider-Man no longer".

Funny as hell. MUCH better than SM1. Regarless of what happened in the comic book story, I did not like the fact that MJ comes back to Peter at the end. I just thought that SM would make a better hero having *given* up MJ and knowing that there is always something there. Can't have cake and eat it too.



7/8/9


Posted by free on 07-02-2004 06:16 PM:

7/8/?


Posted by hoozdapimp on 07-02-2004 06:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by BeTo
Hey i have a question for thos with real experience in this, its about the audio stuff

how do i know what type of audio like DTS or another type is used in any rls when the nfo dont say it, ive read posts from peaple that say that the DTS light or the dolby digital light turns on when playing certain movies so i dont want to chek this way i want to check the audio type any other way if possible let me know guys TIA!


Audio in SVCD will ALWAYS be mp2, (scene standards is mp2 audio @224kbps)....when you see people talking about DTS, that's the source audio, which means they took the DTS disk from the theatre and converted it to mp2 audio, and then muxed it together with the video they record. there is no such thing as DTS on an SVCD...there is MPEG5.1 but support for it is very small (your receiver and DVD player must support it), and overall it is a waste of space on an SVCD since bitrate is limited to 2700kbps, and mpeg5.1 audio would require at least 384kbps to sound OK.


Posted by SToNERUK on 07-02-2004 06:29 PM:

Yea, its been said before in this thread about the artefacts comin an goin , it is pretty bad. i put svcd on dvd and for some reason my dvd player freezes when there are some bad artefacts on screen, noone else mentioned this so i'll put it down to my dvd player bein shit.
Didnt get to watch the whole movie coz of the freezin/artefact problem, gonna wait for the 3cd internal comin out before tryin to watch it again.

Vid : 8.5

Aud : 10 (Usual perfect Videocd Audio)


Mov : Dunno Yet

EDIT

OK OK...i authored it again , put it on dvd, artefacts are nowhere nearly as bad as before , where i was getting big blocky lines and blocks thru it which were causing my dvd player to freeze the disc, authoring tool musta fecked up first time, my scores have been changed accordingly.


As for this

quote:
Originally posted by pjfan281
now even with artifacts you cant possibly give this a 4 for video. please never vote again.


PJDICK..so what rating would would u have given it if the first time u authored it and tried to watch it , it caused ur dvd player to freeze with the large blocks and lines goin thru it???
Dont point ur comments at me again u retard.

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Posted by pjfan281 on 07-02-2004 06:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SToNERUK
Yea, its been said before in this thread about the artefacts comin an goin , it is pretty bad. i put svcd on dvd and for some reason my dvd player freezes when there are some bad artefacts on screen, noone else mentioned this so i'll put it down to my dvd player bein shit.
Didnt get to watch the whole movie coz of the freezin/artefact problem, gonna wait for the 3cd internal comin out before tryin to watch it again.

Vid : 4 (Pic is sweet...but those green and grey spots, DAMN!!!!)

Aud : 10 (Usual perfect Videocd Audio)


Mov : Dunno Yet



now even with artifacts you cant possibly give this a 4 for video. please never vote again.


Posted by Itsyourturnok69 on 07-02-2004 07:03 PM:

Very good TS and the one to get untill the dvd rip

Whats up with MJ why not just say Mary Jane?

9/9/?


Posted by dakiller on 07-02-2004 07:18 PM:

Great release
starting to depend on these guys lol

8/8/8

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Posted by joeydownload on 07-02-2004 08:10 PM:

Picture 8
Audio 9

movie ??? going to watch


Posted by MrPlow on 07-02-2004 08:33 PM:

Video quality is excellent despite the few artifacts,
Sound is great as usual for a videocd release.

As for the movie; if you liked the first one, you're going to love the sequel.

9/9/9


Posted by MastaMp3 on 07-02-2004 09:29 PM:

Very good release some blocks here and there but over all good
9/10/10

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Posted by Nazzy on 07-02-2004 09:54 PM:

I have downloaded two copies of this movie and have run into the same problem: choppy video. The VideoCD intro plays fine, but the actual movie is very stuttery. Have never had this happen before, so if anyone else has had this occur or knows what I need to do to fix this issue then please fill me in.


Posted by the hitman--uk on 07-02-2004 10:12 PM:

this film looks awsome ,as i live in the uk we dont get this till the 15th ,so i will d load it but will still go and see it on the big screen. As for my marks on this release i give it 8/9/10.....keep up the good work videocd u guys r the best

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Posted by Beaver35 on 07-02-2004 10:27 PM:

Great Work

Now i hope the Catwomen is like this copy..That's a dark movie..

But nice job.....


Posted by stezo2k on 07-02-2004 11:50 PM:

this release is well sweet, nice and quick to release too

video is superb for a TS, one of the best ts' out at the moment

audio is the same

haven't watched the movie yet

8.5/9/?


Posted by Mr E on 07-03-2004 12:26 AM:

Another great copy from Videocd. I had a lot of trouble with the download but I think its the way it was archived. The first 3 RARs were from Envy!!

Anyway, usual quality from Videocd.

Video 8
Audio 9

Keep them coming!


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Posted by Quinny83 on 07-03-2004 01:53 AM:

quote:


Whats up with MJ why not just say Mary Jane?

9/9/? [/B]

The reason peter calls Mary Jane "MJ" is because that is what his nickname for her in the Comics, also Mj is only two syllables while Mary Jane is 4, you figure out which is quicker to say!

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Posted by RUiNU on 07-03-2004 03:22 AM:

Great realease, didnt care for the movie.

7.5/7.5/5


Posted by vinnyv07 on 07-03-2004 04:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai
maybe my mpeg2 codecs suck, but i saw ALOT of frequent video artifacts in the stream, example:

http://jurai.free.fr/spiderman.jpg

anyone else see these? show up and last for 1 frame, but appear frequently


Yes I have seen them.....I I dont think its the MPEG2 codecs.....I havent had a problem with a movie until this one. Still a great release but the artifacts were there.


Posted by SycoCowz on 07-03-2004 05:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Quinny83
The reason peter calls Mary Jane "MJ" is because that is what his nickname for her in the Comics, also Mj is only two syllables while Mary Jane is 4, you figure out which is quicker to say!


FYI, Mary Jane is 3 syllables.

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Posted by tiba31 on 07-03-2004 06:53 AM:

i had a problem wit 1 of the files in cd1 .r36 was corrupt is there neway of fixin this and makin it work sum1 plz help thx in advance


Posted by GloCK|40 on 07-03-2004 06:59 AM:

Smile

7/7/9


I liked this one. The pic was nice as well as the audio. I've been waiting for VideoCD to put this one out. Great Job guys. Keep UP the EXCELLENT WORK!

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Posted by EmPreSS on 07-03-2004 07:19 AM:

Fixed my sound system so I can review for real now.

Audio was very good as usual. Can't really get much better. Video was a tad dark but still it's very good. Maybe if VideoCD didn't put that intro in they could have left the entire opening credits instead of starting right when Spider-Man 2 appeared on screen.

I'm hoping Chakra will deliver a tc of this movie. And still hoping for a good release of Troy. This summer is crap for movies coming out... After Spider-Man 2 I'm not really looking forward to anything.

7/9/9

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Posted by ihaveabu on 07-03-2004 07:38 AM:

just saw the sample. very good. tiny bit grainy. decent ar.


gonna c it in theaters tomorrow. can't wait!


Posted by HipB on 07-03-2004 08:36 AM:

finally saw the movie, thought it was a lil bit better than the 1st (the fucking up green goblin just pissed me off, damn tincan) it started slow, but when it got going it went fairly nice, dr octopus was close to the comic version, fairly enjoyable, now the release, i personally want the 3cd version, the 2cd version you could tell was flawed, look at the fire scene, blocky as hell, it was nice and it would do, but at 1hr per cd, its pushing it, so 3cds is well called for, also i noticed a sound problem or something 30 mins in or there abouts, then the sound pops and its fine, anyway with that said my rating is 7/8/8


Posted by jeex on 07-03-2004 08:56 AM:

i mounted the disc images through daemon and watched through powerdvd, i also noticed the artifacts. they werent that big of a deal..

i encoded this movie to NTSC DVD spec and the artifacts were reduced by about 90%. you can still notice them, but you really have to pay attention..

i find myself only downloading videocd releases, they're as good as CTP, but they release more often.

8/9/7


Posted by popabook on 07-03-2004 09:04 AM:

Thank you Videocd...Thank you

8/9/9

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Posted by punzada on 07-03-2004 09:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by jeex
i encoded this movie to NTSC DVD spec and the artifacts were reduced by about 90%. you can still notice them, but you really have to pay attention..



Heh I was going to mention how I just did the same thing using MainConcept (sooo much easier for pal -> ntsc converting ....although can't handle everything)

Killed the annoying lil artifacts completely, when i extracted the mpeg with isobuster the framerate was all types of screwy in powerdvd but played fine in windows media player, i'm surprised this release hasn't gotten nuked for these issues but I can't complain, after a simple re-encode I couldn't be happier, although a lil more work this time, another quality release from videocd, after watching this film in the theater its a treat to watch a ts of this caliber for the second time.

8/8/10++++ (loved the movie, setup for the 3rd/4th one SOOOOO well..and from what i've heard sony has signed on for at least 5 of them, so we shall see)


Posted by DazaX on 07-03-2004 09:19 AM:

:o

Just grabbed this fine release and i'm simply amazed by it.

The quality of releases these days is simply amazing, i'll put this on later and i'm positive i'll be able to trick everyone else in this house its a pure DVD. Obviously it isnt, but it will certainly hold off until then.

VideoCD are doing a great job these days, havent seen releases of this quality since the days of Centropy. Dare I say, even better? Finally we have some stability within the TS scene. I just wonder how long can something this good last?

Only 2CDs, cant get much better can it?

Sound is well, 'standard' these days. No buzzing/popping/distortion found when turned up loud.

Movie wise - it was better than the first, in my opinion first was just above average.

v9/a9/m8

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PS.

Love the nifty little intro, isnt it just great? Maybe I'm insane but I watched it over a few times :P

Reminds me of Centropy's one actually, but CTPs was better.. first saw it on How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days TS SVCD and I didnt watch the movie, just the CTP intro

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Posted by Jurai on 07-03-2004 09:40 AM:

seriously noone cares about you guys who encoed your svcd's to dvd, stop talking about it in every thread

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Posted by scottymac on 07-03-2004 01:38 PM:

This should be nuked.

Scene rules call for 3CDs if the movie runs over 110 mins.

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Posted by deano21 on 07-03-2004 01:57 PM:

is the film misssing scenes?


Posted by minihood on 07-03-2004 02:19 PM:

Re Extraction Problems

After downloading the 1st CD and ISOBUSTER it says the file is corrupt so i tried downloading it again from a different source same thing occured any1 else if this problem


Posted by desertboy on 07-03-2004 02:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai
seriously noone cares about you guys who encoed your svcd's to dvd, stop talking about it in every thread


Why encode to dvd? Lose quality, waste time & a dvd. I thought everyone here had a svcd compatible player and if not why not?

The only reason I can think of to encode to dvd is so you can sell it.

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Posted by desertboy on 07-03-2004 02:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by scottymac
This should be nuked.

Scene rules call for 3CDs if the movie runs over 110 mins.



Maybe not adhering to scene rules but who's going to nuke this?

Great quality, good sound and the only other available copy is POT's.

You stick with the cam and I'll have my non scene compliant TS.

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Posted by vinnyv07 on 07-03-2004 03:04 PM:

I dont care if it should be 3 cds ....this shouldnt be nuked. Simply put, its the best copy out there...by far.


Posted by tony532 on 07-03-2004 03:08 PM:

i put the cd's onto a dvd in order the save time having to swap disks

dvdrs are only 25 pence each these days


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Posted by SToNERUK on 07-03-2004 03:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
Why encode to dvd? Lose quality, waste time & a dvd. I thought everyone here had a svcd compatible player and if not why not?

The only reason I can think of to encode to dvd is so you can sell it.




U talk a load of bollocks desertboy, and if thats the only reason u can think of for putting svcd onto dvd u must be a real DAFT CUNT.

As said in previous post dvd's are verrrry cheap these days, so putting multiple svcd's onto 1 dvd saves money and u dont have to change disc half way, or a third way thru the film.
As for losing quality?? u dont need to encode svcd's to put them onto a dvd so how does it lose quality? and as for losin time?? i can have a svcd authored and ready for burnin onto a dvd in 25 mins max. after downloadin it.
So next time dont bother posting about something that u clearly know nothing about

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Posted by M80Thrasher on 07-03-2004 04:13 PM:

Thumbs up

Saw this movie in theaters. Oddly enough right at the part where Spiderman goes into the building on fire the fire alarm in the theater goes off so hundreds of people are on the streets cause its a three-story hugeass theater. Anyway...a half-hour later we saw the rest. Damn good movie I'll say. Had a great flow to it. In my opinion it was better then the first and it set itself up for the third movie.

Now for the breakdown of the release.....
VIDEO: video is good. But its a little bit dark and there is a slight flicker.
AUDIO: Audio us great.
MOVIE: Very good!

THE SHIMMY: 8/9/9.5

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Posted by desertboy on 07-03-2004 04:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SToNERUK
U talk a load of bollocks desertboy, and if thats the only reason u can think of for putting svcd onto dvd u must be a real DAFT CUNT.

As said in previous post dvd's are verrrry cheap these days, so putting multiple svcd's onto 1 dvd saves money and u dont have to change disc half way, or a third way thru the film.
As for losing quality?? u dont need to encode svcd's to put them onto a dvd so how does it lose quality? and as for losin time?? i can have a svcd authored and ready for burnin onto a dvd in 25 mins max. after downloadin it.
So next time dont bother posting about something that u clearly know nothing about



It's harsh to say I know nothing.

SVCD MPEG 2 streams are not DVD compliant some dvd's but not all can play them, some more with the header trick. (But you knew that didn't you?)

I used to use the header trick myself although I bought an xbox and chipped it to save hassle (Best player on the market, samba shares mean I can watch my film within a couple of minutes of download without ever having to burn media.)

I posted a little harsh and maybe I should have read all the posts 1st I forgot the header trick. (Although the post I was responding to made it sound like re-encoding)

dvdrhelp.com has more info than you'll ever need!

What I should have said is I can't see the point re-encoding this to dvd.

(I didn't think people were that petit but I should have known.)

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Posted by SToNERUK on 07-03-2004 05:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
It's harsh to say I know nothing.

SVCD MPEG 2 streams are not DVD compliant some dvd's but not all can play them, some more with the header trick. (But you knew that didn't you?)

I used to use the header trick myself although I bought an xbox and chipped it to save hassle (Best player on the market, samba shares mean I can watch my film within a couple of minutes of download without ever having to burn media.)

I posted a little harsh and maybe I should have read all the posts 1st I forgot the header trick. (Although the post I was responding to made it sound like re-encoding)

dvdrhelp.com has more info than you'll ever need!

What I should have said is I can't see the point re-encoding this to dvd.

(I didn't think people were that petit but I should have known.)



Again you dont seem to know what ur talking about, the "header trick" is only used to trick ur authoring program into thinking its dvd compliant standard...after its authored u set the sizes back to svcd standard otherwise u get big green bars. All in all u dont have a clue, so dont bother posting.

btw. xbox and ps2 both play svcddvd without being chipped, again u talk shit.
Think u should surf ur way over to dvdrhelp.com and do some reading.

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Posted by desertboy on 07-03-2004 05:24 PM:

Surely the header is to trick your dvd player into playing it. (Which not all players support.)

Manners and politeness cost nothing but you decide to be offensive. Chill out smoke, smoke some pot remember arguing on the net is like cheating in the special olympics.

I shall not bother posting in this thread again (or reading any new posts in it) you want argue take it to general discussion I check reasonably regulary.

Obviously since I chipped my xbox and have XBMC I don't need to worry about such things as the header trick.

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Posted by SToNERUK on 07-03-2004 05:34 PM:

"""Surely the header is to trick your dvd player into playing it. (Which not all players support.) """ WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Well finally u understand ur wrong, why did u argue when u knew u were talkin out ur arse?
Guess ur just being petty, and whats the point in taking it to another thread..so u can lie some more and try to cause arguements?
Get on with ur life desertboy and stop being a dick.

As for this : "I shall not bother posting in this thread again (or reading any new posts in it)"
Stop acting like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum , just cause u were caught out telling lies.

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Posted by Kenny8771 on 07-03-2004 06:18 PM:

quote:
btw. xbox and ps2 both play svcddvd without being chipped, again u talk shit.




Not all Xbox's play SVCD/VCD. Depends on the DVD Rom Drive. (ie Thompson doesnt play em) The Smasung Drive, will tho


Posted by Otaking on 07-03-2004 07:00 PM:

Enough XBOX talk...

Anyway, I just saw this release yesterday

I originally had the matine version but yeah we all know how they fucked up cd1.

I kinda like the heads of peopole sitting down....it gives you the real cinema feel

Good proper, great movie

9/9/10


Posted by bigmouse64 on 07-03-2004 07:05 PM:

Nice video and nice audio, no complaints here.

8
8
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Posted by huggy on 07-03-2004 07:10 PM:

no pont in getting another version of this now. this chapter is now closed. videoCD have one hands down. well done lads on an excellent tele.

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Posted by mod[e] on 07-03-2004 07:30 PM:

yep i agree to the post above! no sense on getting the 3 cd release (videocd said theyre going to release an internal 3cd version) this one is good enough =D will do me till the dvd retail comes out =) thanks videocd for releasing this version!

9/9/9

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Posted by jeex on 07-03-2004 07:38 PM:

:: No. -D


Posted by Mezt^Up on 07-03-2004 08:10 PM:

nice job VideoCD,

V: 8.5 (a bit dark)
A: 9.5
V: 9 (better than the first)

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Posted by xednis on 07-03-2004 09:08 PM:

8/9/10...and that rating's saying a lot about the scene today because this release is plain beautiful compared to TSes even a couple years ago.


Posted by tony532 on 07-03-2004 10:09 PM:

woah! calm down

my ratings

intro:-

video :8
audio :9
movie :8

keep watching it like a poster above..

every group should have one

film:-

video 8 few artifacts but very clear picture at times
audio 10
movie 8 cracking movie and the love interest takes it to another level i.m.o


Posted by pHo on 07-03-2004 10:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by scottymac
This should be nuked.

Scene rules call for 3CDs if the movie runs over 110 mins.



no scene rules set is 100% enforced, and a lot of rulesets say its 120mins (lots of debate over a TEG 113min release before iirc), but its beside the point.. those specs are for DVD Rips. in all honesty, it looks fine on 2CD and i commend V-CD for doing the intelligent thing. (altho its still undersized! and they got the film name wrong!)

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Posted by TrV on 07-03-2004 11:05 PM:

WOW..

After reading thru 6 pages of posts i must conclude...

There are maybe 6 posts worth reading in this thread.

God knows why i bothered reading thru it...

Boredom i guess.

/me pisses off to be bored somewhere else.

oh! before i forget........

8/8/8 :>


Posted by horizonstar on 07-03-2004 11:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
no scene rules set is 100% enforced, and a lot of rulesets say its 120mins (lots of debate over a TEG 113min release before iirc), but its beside the point.. those specs are for DVD Rips. in all honesty, it looks fine on 2CD and i commend V-CD for doing the intelligent thing.

Yeah, I feel the same way. On a TS, going slightly under on bitrate is better than adding another CD and maxing out bitrate. There's only so much quality you can get out of a cam.

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Posted by Jazzmo on 07-04-2004 01:15 AM:

Great Movie , Great Quality--- for an early release. dont need any other copy as i think this will be the best till a screener or dvdrip comes out...

did find one prob though.. i was missing a few files in the movie..On Cd2

r31
r37
r47


but got it sorted now..

GREAT MOVIE


Posted by Justice on 07-04-2004 04:10 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by SToNERUK
"""Surely the header is to trick your dvd player into playing it. (Which not all players support.) """ WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Well finally u understand ur wrong, why did u argue when u knew u were talkin out ur arse?



You are BOTH correct.
The header trick can be used in 2 ways.

1. To fool your DVD authoring program into thinking an MPEG is DVD compliant.
2. To allow DVD players to play SVCD if they don't support it by fooling it into thinking it's a VCD.

Both don't always work 100%

Although I must admit that reauthoring VCD/SVCD>DVD does save £££ on media (especially on 3 disc releases) - Just ask the Pirates at the CarBoot Sale.

LOL



This is a GREAT release BTW - (on topic Goddammit!)

Video 7 (slight cropping)
Audio 9 (fantastic!)
Movie 10 (did you expect otherwise? It's Doc Ock FFS!)


Posted by deano21 on 07-04-2004 05:18 AM:

saw this release last night bloody brilliant film 10x better than the first much better effects

vid 9
aud 9
film 10

love videoCDs new intro


Posted by AJitator on 07-04-2004 05:22 AM:

people like to overrate releases. the picture has bad contrast and grainy texture. if 10 is perfect quality, then all your 9 and 8 votes are exaggerated.

7/9/9


Posted by pjfan281 on 07-04-2004 05:46 AM:

well for people like me who put the movie on dvd anyway, the extra bitrate is appreciated as there is more than enough room for it. but alas i do see the good in what VCD is doing, trying to please both sides with two different size releases. only i dont think that many people complained about an extra cd given that has been the trend with longer movies for months now. with the sudden change you have to wonder if maybe a smaller release is just intended to help put out a release quicker. sorry for the bit of skepticism, but the sudden change just doesnt seem to make much sense. but anyway, i hope the 3cd version comes out soon so i can kick off the 4th with what i am hearing is a great sequel!


and thank you kirsten dunst for not wearing bras in your movies


Posted by lennyp75 on 07-04-2004 06:20 AM:

although there is close to no point for me to post another comment on this already raped thread, for the people who come here to actually know about THE MOVIE IN QUESTION, i'll give it:

7/9/9

excellent release, if you're a picky bastard the credits are in french


Posted by nobby1701 on 07-04-2004 07:05 AM:

9/9/10

It's as good as it gets, really--a tiny bit of pixelation--not really worth mentioning. My old Cablevision connection didn't give as good a picture/sound. I will definitely BUY the DVD when it comes out. And I can't wait until Spider-man 3.


Posted by djj on 07-04-2004 08:27 AM:

Video seems kind of cropped and also a bit dark, that's why a bit low score for that. Audio is very nice as usual. Haven't seen the movie yet and don't know if I will.

7/9/x

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Posted by frak on 07-04-2004 08:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by AJitator
people like to overrate releases. the picture has bad contrast and grainy texture. if 10 is perfect quality, then all your 9 and 8 votes are exaggerated.

7/9/9



it's a sliding scale - the bar isn't a dvd, it's relative to the best
of TS.

On that basis, it's easily a 8-8.5


Posted by Proteus93 on 07-04-2004 09:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by SNooF671
has anyone had problems with videocd releases, and constant slow pauses thru the movie. Its only videocd releases i have problem with, just curious if anyone else had the problem


quote:
Originally posted by Nazzy
I have downloaded two copies of this movie and have run into the same problem: choppy video. The VideoCD intro plays fine, but the actual movie is very stuttery. Have never had this happen before, so if anyone else has had this occur or knows what I need to do to fix this issue then please fill me in.


Seems I'm noticing what a couple others did. Both discs had passed sfv scans over their rar's when I put it together, but through viewing, it would 'pause' in a sense, as SnooF mentions. The audio seems fine, but the video seems to hang a little and then it will speed up to catch up again, having it fall out of sync in the meantime. By the end of the second disc, I got a nasty squelch and it kind of went downhill for the last 5 - 7 minutes. Kind of a shame, and I'm wondering if it's just a corrupted copy floating around, considering the number of people who aren't making comment on it. Nonetheless, the release was fine otherwise, and I think it's just a problem with the specific source of download. I loved the film, itself, certainly going above and beyond my expectations.

8/8/9


Posted by macca1969 on 07-04-2004 02:02 PM:

Video 7
Audio 9
Movie 8

Great job by videocd movie was pretty good too much better
than the 1st imho


Posted by binx on 07-04-2004 02:17 PM:

Talking

watched this last night..........quality is awsome............tnx videocd....


Posted by MiSSiONDVD on 07-04-2004 02:36 PM:

the picture very good the sound is amazing the film well it's well worth watching much better than the first one i think my votes i'll have to give is 8.5/9/9.
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Posted by gibby357 on 07-04-2004 06:19 PM:

After reading some of the post here, it seems peeps will never be satisfied. I guess that is what makes the world go around. This was one of the best TS that I have ever seen. No choppy video (must be another corrupt version), nothing missing and sound was on point. Any better than this and you would have some little kid kicking your seat. Great Job VideoCD !!!!!



9-8-10


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Posted by raps99 on 07-04-2004 10:26 PM:

lets not worry about getting the 3cd release of this,
instead lets worry about getting a dvd screener

8/9/10


Posted by PLUGTOP on 07-04-2004 11:21 PM:

Picture and Audio are both good.

Before you go picking fault just remember this was shot with a cam, and audio collected via a deaf aid/ear phone jack.

VideoCD and others put their neck on the line to bring us these releases, I'm always happy with VideoCD stuff


Posted by Bravo on 07-05-2004 12:57 AM:

Typical release from Videocd. Top notch audio with very good video. A few green blocks every now and then but the picture was great(even during the dark scenes).


Posted by Bravo on 07-05-2004 12:57 AM:

Typical release from Videocd. Top notch audio with very good video. A few green blocks every now and then but the picture was great(even during the dark scenes).


Posted by KrackZaa on 07-05-2004 12:59 AM:

actually they get their audio source from dts disks, but anyways, just thought id post because this has to get a 9 for video, i mean there are definitely artifacts, clearly seen on my television, but you really cant ask for much for out of a camcorder, its gonna be dark in dark spots, but i think that this was watchable in dark scenes, and as usual its very crisp video. audio is flawless once again, and just a day after premiere, even centropy didnt release till a few days after premiere. i think centropy did a better job on spiderman; however, this is quality stuff considering the security being hightened in theaters.

9/10

great job guys, keep up the great work the past 3 months !

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Posted by dvdhouse111 on 07-05-2004 02:55 AM:

video cd are the leaders in the scene at the mo and that is apparent. like the intro its like centropys a couple a years ago

video 8 : audio 9 : movie 9

good stuff from the guys there

ratings based on watching pc will be better on my standalone system as usual


Posted by fizzyk on 07-05-2004 12:13 PM:

ratings

very very good job

this will do nicely till dvdr retaill


Posted by khr0n on 07-05-2004 01:56 PM:

nice pic and audio but the movie is the worst i ever seen! it sucks big time

7/6/3


Posted by oo420oo on 07-05-2004 05:42 PM:

First off, great job VideoCD. They are cranking out releases faster than shit thru a goose...
Watched this on my standalone dvd player, good video and excellent audio.
A few video artifacts as previously mentioned but I can't complain...
7/8/7


Posted by dark101 on 07-05-2004 07:04 PM:

Lightbulb Only to Inform the Un-Informed

Everyone has been asking over and over about a 3cd internal of spiderman2... And it is getting annoying answering over and over so i'll lay it out for you. The rls is labeled internal and vcdquality usually doesn't post internal realses. This is most likely why it hasn't been posted on the site. Now the real reason for the internal is because it is near to the same quality as the 2cd, but not the same source and has some changes.
º - Angle on right top corner has been fixed.
º - Colors has been adjusted with more precision.
º - More sharpness.
º - No mosaic green block
º - Encoded 4 pass with CCE @ 2465kbit

To clear some things up-->(From the nFo)
This is the 3CDs copy of Spiderman 2 as internal.
If you didn't see the movie yet, its worth getting the extra cd,
If you saw it, and really liked the film and want to see it again,
again, it is worth getting this one. If you think the movie was ok, keep with the 2cds copy. This copy has been made for those who want extra quality, and
those perfecsionist who want the best.
For those who want to get this and create a dvdr, our guys are
doing something special for this release, an internal version of
this as dvdr, with customs menu, multiple audio ( english 5.1,
french 5.1 & german 5.1 ), video improvement with a higher bitrate and some little funny extra for you.

Since the rls is internal i doubt many will be able to get ahold of this rls for awhile so don't bother asking about where to get it, anyway if u did the mods should ban u.
I hope this cleared a few things up, later all.

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Posted by MTV on 07-05-2004 09:30 PM:

Nice fast rls. good t/s - not the best ever but its up there.film has stupid ending but did we expect anything els ??btw VideoCD ,nice intro guys !!!!

7.5/8/7


Posted by fkngrvn on 07-05-2004 11:04 PM:

Not that good. Should of been 3cd, it's just over 2hrs long. There are also block's (multi colored break ups) throughout both CDs, on the DVD player and on the PC. Thought it was an IRC transfer problem, so downed from another channel, same problem, grabbed from the news, same problem. It's as if it was copied from a scratched source disc. Needs a proper. The color is way off, and makes it pretty much look like shit.

Audio is good though.

5/8/7

If your dying to see it, it's above watchable, you'll have to adjust the color on your set. If another grp would of released this, eveyone would be all over their ass. But I'd wait for a proper.


Posted by chilli201 on 07-05-2004 11:23 PM:

great release from video cd but wait they have brought out a 3cd can it get any better.....

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Posted by pjfan281 on 07-05-2004 11:59 PM:

Re: Only to Inform the Un-Informed

quote:
Originally posted by dark101
Everyone has been asking over and over about a 3cd internal of spiderman2... And it is getting annoying answering over and over so i'll lay it out for you. The rls is labeled internal and vcdquality usually doesn't post internal realses. This is most likely why it hasn't been posted on the site. Now the real reason for the internal is because it is near to the same quality as the 2cd, but not the same source and has some changes.
º - Angle on right top corner has been fixed.
º - Colors has been adjusted with more precision.
º - More sharpness.
º - No mosaic green block
º - Encoded 4 pass with CCE @ 2465kbit

To clear some things up-->(From the nFo)
This is the 3CDs copy of Spiderman 2 as internal.
If you didn't see the movie yet, its worth getting the extra cd,
If you saw it, and really liked the film and want to see it again,
again, it is worth getting this one. If you think the movie was ok, keep with the 2cds copy. This copy has been made for those who want extra quality, and
those perfecsionist who want the best.
For those who want to get this and create a dvdr, our guys are
doing something special for this release, an internal version of
this as dvdr, with customs menu, multiple audio ( english 5.1,
french 5.1 & german 5.1 ), video improvement with a higher bitrate and some little funny extra for you.

Since the rls is internal i doubt many will be able to get ahold of this rls for awhile so don't bother asking about where to get it, anyway if u did the mods should ban u.
I hope this cleared a few things up, later all.




i was afraid of this. basically they just rushed to get out a 2 cd version to win the release. i could understand if the 3cd version internal was put out just to have a higher bitrate for those who dont mind a 3rd cd. but the fact that other things were fixed (artifacts, colors, angles) etc, points to te fact that these things could have and should have been fixed from the very beginning. i just dont get it, videocd says a lot of peopel complained about an extra cd with some release, but now they're going out of their way to make more work for themselves by making multiple internal releases with special menus, multiple audio streams, etc etc but hey they are "internal" releases, so they can do as much with it as they like to make it better for themselves. i just think things should have been left at 3cds for longer movies, it was easy enough.


Posted by punzada on 07-06-2004 12:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
Why encode to dvd? Lose quality, waste time & a dvd. I thought everyone here had a svcd compatible player and if not why not?

The only reason I can think of to encode to dvd is so you can sell it.



I don't know, something about that post made me feel I need to defend myself for converting it to dvd.

I won't sell dvds I get, but as a sort of weekly thing me and my friends will want to all hang out and watch it together, so I burn it to a dvd because I have blank dvds and for the most part whatever dvd player we use it will work, most compliant just makes sense if you can afford it.

Oh well, just my two cents, watching this release again right now actually, this movie was definitely worth a watch in the theater, heavy bass during some scenes made ya almost jump.


Posted by kingcyrus on 07-06-2004 01:38 AM:

v: 9
a: 9
m: 7


Posted by KrackZaa on 07-06-2004 06:19 AM:

props to videocd for the internal release, looks bangin. im glad they did this as an internal release, and i would like to say i appreciate their work, keep it up boys!

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Posted by servie_b on 07-06-2004 10:46 AM:

video: 8.5 (would have been 9 if not for the artefacts)
audio: 9
movie: 9


Posted by CANES1 on 07-06-2004 11:25 AM:

I can't beleive the word nuke was mentioned in discussion of this release! If this release is gonna be nuked then every release in the history of the scene and every release yet to come should be nuked! Picky picky picky picky! As for the movie if you get to the theater half an hour late you won't miss anything. I can't remember a movie in which the usual boring beginning took so long to end.


Posted by NorQue on 07-06-2004 06:08 PM:

Dunno why people complain on the quality of this release... that's definitly one of the better Telesyncs out there, even compared to the standards set by CTP.

From the first post in this topic:

quote:
Centropy did a better job @ Spiderman but, but Videocd's the best group around these days

That's definitly BS, dunno what *you* have seen, but my CTP copy of Spiderman 1 TS wasn't as good as this one. For its time it was great, but this TS definitly has better picture, is less grainy and washed out, it even makes VHS Screener copies look bad.

Also unclear to me why everybody wants a 3 CD Version of that TS, since 2 CDs is perfect IMO. Come on, 700 more MBytes wasted bandwidth for little to no improvement? These block artefacts were hardly noticable when I watched this release, if you want *perfect* picture & experience you're better off watching this flick in the cinemas. Even with higher average bitrate and "improved" colors this TS will stay a *camera recorded* TS and won't get very much better.

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Posted by whynot63 on 07-06-2004 07:30 PM:

Talking

Great release!

Been waiting a long time to see this one.
9/9/10


Posted by monte1911 on 07-06-2004 07:52 PM:

I agree, it was bloody slow towards the beginning aiii.

But yeah, my 2 cents;

Video: 8 (Blocks and general shittiness during dark scenes as expected)
Audio: 9.5 (JUST AMAZING!)
Movie: 7.5 (Good sequel, but nothing groundbreaking.)


Posted by thelost91 on 07-07-2004 01:53 AM:

v: 9
a: 9
m: 8

VideoCd that was an awesome quality telesync. Good Work!!


Posted by homershaggy on 07-07-2004 06:12 PM:

awesome movie , from asia so aint in the theaters here till 23rd (sucks doesnt it)

anyways ratings are

9/9/10

the video quality was great especially on TV so stop bitching u guys !

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Posted by Bravo on 07-08-2004 03:19 AM:

If you have the two cd set i wouldn't worry about the three.
If it is not from the same source something is strange because it starts and ends exactly where the two disc set did. Either way it is still a top notch release.


Posted by pjfan281 on 07-08-2004 04:21 AM:

great release. if you guys are looking for sometihng to do with your time how about Fahrenheit 911? lol i know we cant expect you to do it all, but we can hope =)


Posted by CANES1 on 07-08-2004 06:29 AM:

Is this the longest thread in the history of VCDquality movie release discussion?


Posted by muhali3 on 07-08-2004 06:44 AM:

Not VideoCD's usual, but still great for an early release. Should have done a 3CD because there are many scenes where you can see bitrate shortage. Centropy will always be the best.


7.7/9/8 - As a Telesync

7/8.5/8 - The way I see it.

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Posted by mrblonduk on 07-08-2004 11:40 AM:

Excellent quality as allways! (nice intro too) only prob i saw was the few green/white block and a little blurryness in some of the action scenes and a sligthly poor picture when the scence was dark... dont get me wrong im just nit picking here, overall i thought the release was fantastic and the sound couldnt get any better!
Also liked the film much more than the first one!
video: 8
audio: 10
film: 8
Im just downloading the 3 cd version and from the sample the picture seems to be a LOT better and there is no blurryness to it at all!


Posted by Jonesss on 07-08-2004 12:34 PM:

muhali3 then download the 3cd's internal of this movie then?
I saw the movie Last nigth in theaters... it was verry good


Posted by muhali3 on 07-08-2004 04:39 PM:

I already burned it on 2 CDs so i don't really care anymore or want to waste my time.

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Posted by JohNNey5 on 07-09-2004 11:47 PM:

i keep finding myself downloading these VideoCD TS's!

This one isn't the best of them though

Color is a little off, and those damn blocks (artifacts, whatever you guys call em) are quite annoying.

Not complaining though, as i paid $0 for this.

Audio is excellent, the movie started getting boring (have you noticed how every action scene was buffered with a soft quiet scene?), i noticed how perfect the audio really is on this release.

7/10/7

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Posted by Gujuunit on 07-10-2004 05:44 PM:

Go VideoCd great quality

Know to wait for DVDR release


Posted by CANES1 on 07-11-2004 10:20 AM:

When I was watching the fire scene with VideoLan it was fine but with my DVD player it was blocky and it even froze a few times and even after the fire scene the blockness stayed through the end of cd2. What does that mean? My DVD player is crap? Also on VideoLan the running time was 1:02:15 but on the DVD player it was 40:59. But there were no missing scenes on the burnt VCD. What does that mean? I'm referring to the 3 CD version BTW.


Posted by Miller on 07-11-2004 05:14 PM:

wanted to see this movie for awhile. much better then the POT cam release. video is a bit Dark but nothing to complain about. sound is good. but i don't understand why he would take his mask off every 5 min to show his face to ever tom dick and harry!!

8/8/9

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Posted by TigerLord on 07-11-2004 06:05 PM:

9/8/9

great sound, great pic, good job


Posted by jediboytj on 07-11-2004 06:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CANES1
Also on VideoLan the running time was 1:02:15 but on the DVD player it was 40:59. But there were no missing scenes on the burnt VCD. What does that mean? I'm referring to the 3 CD version BTW.


I think some DVD players can't read the (S)VCD Timecode properly. mine says 40:59 for a lot of VCD and SVCD releases, but it usually will play the whole thing


Posted by ShorN on 07-12-2004 05:43 PM:

quote:
Is this the longest thread in the history of VCDquality movie release discussion?


Matrix reloaded was close to 250 i think

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Posted by cmahovlic on 07-14-2004 12:39 AM:

Excellent as always, thanks VideoCD!

I love the new little intro!


Posted by tenaciousdave on 07-15-2004 12:03 PM:

agree with everyone, this release is amazing. VideoCD's TS's are on a par with most DVD rips.

This was especially good cause I got to see it two weeks before the cinema release over here!


Posted by muhali3 on 07-15-2004 11:31 PM:

Does anyone know what program VideoCD used to make that intro?

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Posted by CANES1 on 07-16-2004 02:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by muhali3
Does anyone know what program VideoCD used to make that intro?

Look Here

quote:
Originally posted by CANES1
Also on VideoLan the running time was 1:02:15 but on the DVD player it was 40:59. But there were no missing scenes on the burnt VCD. What does that mean? I'm referring to the 3 CD version BTW.



I think some DVD players can't read the (S)VCD Timecode properly. mine says 40:59 for a lot of VCD and SVCD releases, but it usually will play the whole thing




I was having the same problem with Centropy's F/911 but came to find out my player was displaying the correct duration instead of VL.


Posted by 555Prodigy on 07-19-2004 10:20 PM:

Amazing rls

8/9/8


Posted by BongRipper on 07-21-2004 06:32 PM:

meh...had to re-encode to NTSC like all VideoCD's releases lately, but once done, pretty nice..

8/7/8

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Posted by geltoob4000 on 08-14-2004 05:39 AM:

9/10/10
Movie was great and I think the highest anything can ever go for video is 9 cause you'll never get the full screen but on the other hand movie and audio where a straight forward 10 Good job VideoCD

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Posted by m4st3rmindz on 08-15-2004 01:11 AM:

9/9/9


videocd got the goods, great job


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