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Posted by limeb on 05-22-2002 10:13 AM:

Screenshots look brilliant and now just waiting for the d/l,


Posted by limeb on 05-22-2002 10:18 AM:

Excellent release. Its a shame about the film though

Brilliant Quality on the screenshots, just d/l now to watch the whole thing - AGAIN!!!

Oh well, Keep up the good work lads and lasses!


Posted by Kale on 05-22-2002 10:20 AM:

whoa centropy released star wars ep2 after all with their own name


Posted by zappenduster on 05-22-2002 10:21 AM:

damn why didnt i wait for this


Posted by brr8760 on 05-22-2002 10:26 AM:

Holy Heart Failure, Batman!

There is a God!

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Posted by oj simpson on 05-22-2002 10:48 AM:

Wooooo Hooooo

Transferred: ctp-ep2a.r51 15,000,000 bytes in 00:07 (2,092.63 k/sec)


Posted by 404notfound on 05-22-2002 10:49 AM:

Re: Holy Heart Failure, Batman!

quote:
Originally posted by brr8760
There is a God!


......And his name is Centropy.

Oh happy days!!!!

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Posted by Z-Gouki on 05-22-2002 10:56 AM:

hahhaaha


Posted by Cell on 05-22-2002 11:14 AM:

LOL there certainly is


Posted by MeDeNa on 05-22-2002 11:30 AM:

Anyone seen sample yet ?


Posted by b0nk3r on 05-22-2002 11:37 AM:

oh fuck yea! centropy is rockin and a rollin again!!! w00t w00t!

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Posted by Backlund on 05-22-2002 11:39 AM:

Centropy comes through!!!!

I've been waiting and waiting for even a decent release of this flick for over a week now! Centropy, thank you for hearing our cries!


Posted by snaKe_NL on 05-22-2002 11:42 AM:

Nice to see they kept their promise

Again a great quality TS Svcd , but we're used to that from Centropy :P


Posted by gutmann on 05-22-2002 11:48 AM:

any1 had a look at the sample yet?


Posted by rotorman67 on 05-22-2002 11:48 AM:

Talking

Woo-hoo! Who's your Daddy? ***CENTROPY***


Posted by Djnemesis on 05-22-2002 12:01 PM:

smack my bitch up!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh yeh.... can't wait to grab this one... geezum... i think i'll stay up till this hits my sites....


Posted by dilweed on 05-22-2002 12:04 PM:

Exclamation CTP is cool, but not the salvation.

"Let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet, gentlemen." -- Pulp Fiction.

I appreciate the work CTP does, but didn't they say they weren't going to release this because of too much heat? Are they trying to be protective or egotistical by naming the release that?


Posted by limeb on 05-22-2002 12:08 PM:

yay!!! Its finally here!


Posted by pHo on 05-22-2002 12:16 PM:

bastards! i meant to go see this in the theater the other day, but i couldn't go.. do they honestly think i have enough will power not to download this?? maybe i could go whilst its downloading, or should i just give in and enjoy.. bastards!!!!



nice one guys, dig the folder title, and the nfo graphics rock.

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Posted by ams30gts on 05-22-2002 12:33 PM:

omg. this is wonderful


Posted by VCDz on 05-22-2002 12:49 PM:

Downloading the movie now @ 132kb/sec . The mpg2 sample looks great!


All bow to the great Centropy god! LOL.

Now lets all build a gold statue with the letters Centropy .

THANKS A BILLION CENTROPY! the NFO in java looks awesome!

Can't wait to see if there is a special intro too .


Posted by reverend on 05-22-2002 01:00 PM:

I knew they couldn't resist

I knew they couldn't resist

Thanks CTP !
Damn, I woulda held off going to see this in the theater if I had known about this imminent.

btw - You know the bit where Amidala is lying in the sand and the clone trooper comes up and says, "Are you okay", and Amidala goes from looking dead to popping her head up and saying, "......YES!" Well, is that supposed to be a joke? Or is it the most wooden bit of acting I have ever seen? The entire theater here in London UK was rolling in the aisles at that and several other dodgy lines/hammy acting. Visually the movie looked great, but it was screaming out for a decent script and several casting changes (including Hayden 'What dark side?' Christensen - ugh! what a poor choice)

Fave scene? Anakin masturbation scene - "I saw my mother". Hehe, nice one George


Posted by Div on 05-22-2002 01:01 PM:

great release, but unfortunately the aspect is f-cked up again + the sound is not compete sync.
Why doesn't centropy fix this? you would think they know how to encode when they are able to make such nice telesyncs.


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-22-2002 01:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Div
you would think they know how to encode when they are able to make such nice telesyncs.


I would?

Great looking nfo (in java)

Has anybody else actually got and looked at the whole thing?
i may actually get this one, if its worth it.

Anybody else experienced the out of sync Div mentioned?
allot of people have commented on centropy releases being out of sync in the past, and the ones that i had got anyway did not play out of sync for me.

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Posted by brr8760 on 05-22-2002 01:26 PM:

I think it's CTP's best work yet. No flicker, perfect sound (and in sync), no boom mikes. VERY BRIGHT. We can see every smudge, line and shadow on Yoda's face. These guys are artistes with a wicked sense of humor.


Posted by acook614 on 05-22-2002 01:29 PM:

I'm so happy they changed their minds and decided to release it, the screenshots look amazing.

PS : My first post, hi to you all, this forum is really nice, and its a lot more stable than most of the others I post in

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Posted by Metallifux on 05-22-2002 01:31 PM:

Re: Wooooo Hooooo

quote:
Originally posted by oj simpson
Transferred: ctp-ep2a.r51 15,000,000 bytes in 00:07 (2,092.63 k/sec)


Now thats depressing I thought my 60k/s dsl was fast

Me be trawling the newsies tonight looking for this


Posted by Metallifux on 05-22-2002 01:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by brr8760
I'm watching it right now. So far, it's their best work yet. -0- flicker, perfect sound (and in sync), no boom mikes. VERY BRIGHT. I can see every smudge, line and shadow on Yoda's face. This is what we've been waiting for, guys.


Quick noob question. I noticed in Spiderman, that the mike was sometimes visible, I take it that means that these *TS* are not taken from release prints??


Posted by EarlyGrace on 05-22-2002 01:44 PM:

Glad I Waited

Makes me glad that I waited, whould have been a waste to watch one of these other shitty ass releases just cause they where first .

Shame about it being a SVCD, guess I will have to convert it thats all.


Posted by timmehlove on 05-22-2002 01:51 PM:

The AR is off by miles :/ In PowerDVD you can make it better by going full screen, setting Pan&Scan to 1.85:1 then ticking keep aspect ratio - it's a bit better then but why ctp make the AR wrong? Or is it a PAL/NTSC thing?


Posted by Fignutz on 05-22-2002 01:51 PM:

I'm new here, so go easy on the flaming people.

The VCD is ok quality, apart from the sound going at the start of the both discs. Not to the best VCD release I have seen, but its not bad. Just wish they couldve kept the credits in there, I wanted to hear Vader's breathing at the end of the credits.


Posted by Dextrose on 05-22-2002 01:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ^Om3n


I would?

Great looking nfo (in java)

Has anybody else actually got and looked at the whole thing?
i may actually get this one, if its worth it.

Anybody else experienced the out of sync Div mentioned?
allot of people have commented on centropy releases being out of sync in the past, and the ones that i had got anyway did not play out of sync for me.



Its probably his dvd player, the centropy releases r always out of sync on my player but always perfect on my friends.
tis wierd, but if theyve never bin out of sync for u then star wars will b ok


Posted by pinky-32 on 05-22-2002 02:13 PM:

Smile

I cannot wait to see this one..having seen it in the cinema i really want it on disc...just hope the sync is ok


Posted by nawty on 05-22-2002 02:56 PM:

kickazzzz

kickazz screenshots
just waiting on the download to see for myself


Posted by hippyhater on 05-22-2002 03:02 PM:

great rls sound isnt out of sync and aspect ratio looks fine on my dvd player


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-22-2002 03:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fignutz
I'm new here, so go easy on the flaming people.


i see no reason why anbody would flame that, you actually posted an opinion on the quality unlike most of the other posts so far. (fyi: this release was SVCD not VCD)

Dextrose
thanks, thats what i was thinking, just wanted some confirmation first. wouldn't take me long to get but with the bw usage limitations at my ISP im limited to around 700Mb/d i dont want to waist it on a release that is going o be out of sync.

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Posted by mrnygiants on 05-22-2002 04:10 PM:

I love you guys, but Please Stop with the SVCD!!!! VCD IS THE BEST!!!!!

P.S. Thank You from all of us leechers


Posted by acook614 on 05-22-2002 04:16 PM:

So how long does it normally take for the IRC rooms to get stuff after its posted on this site? I can't wait...

Anyone wanna tell us more about the quality? Have you burnt to SVCD yet and watched on your DVD player? Is it realllllllly good???

Woohoo, centropy just rule!! Spiderman svcd now this!!!

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Posted by chrisandcebu on 05-22-2002 04:52 PM:

Thank you Centropy

I'm glad I waited, Thanks Centropy!!!


Posted by Little Raven on 05-22-2002 05:32 PM:

mrnygiants: who cares if it's SVCD or VCD or DivX for all I care ?
I've my computer hooked to the TV and can watch it all

same for all the bitching about it being 3 cd's that you see here so often .. who cares if you don't want to waste that much cd's burning use rewritables ..

free is free at any bitrate and any speed !
I want it

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Posted by lerkster on 05-22-2002 06:34 PM:

Question

quote:
Originally posted by Dextrose


Its probably his dvd player, the centropy releases r always out of sync on my player but always perfect on my friends.
tis wierd, but if theyve never bin out of sync for u then star wars will b ok



Thanks Dextrose. Can you tell me what DVD player you and your friends have?

And THANKS CENTROPY - YOU ROCK !!

lerkster


Posted by Crossy on 05-22-2002 06:53 PM:

Alright guys, does anyone know if the quality is better than the Spideman SVCD Centropy realeased?????

Thanks Crossy


Posted by teddystacker on 05-22-2002 07:28 PM:

For all those people having trouble playing this and other releases on a Standalone DVD player.

The only machine to get is the Sampo 631cf - ok I hear you all say "whats so special about that then" - well apart from playing EVERY format without any trouble - its the only DVD player in the world that you fit a hard drive to - how many of you have 100gig mp3 juke boxes in your machines???

Get over to www.area450.com for all the info...

This was not intended to be a "know it all post" - I am just giving you guys having problems some advice , as the Sampo is not know to many people...


Posted by time2live on 05-22-2002 07:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Little Raven

same for all the bitching about it being 3 cd's that you see here so often .. who cares if you don't want to waste that much cd's burning use rewritables ..

free is free at any bitrate and any speed !


I care if its 3 cds, not because cds cost a lot, but because my bandwidth does. a 2 cd vcd version of comprable quality would be much better appreciated imo.


Posted by ThA_Gr81 on 05-22-2002 08:00 PM:

yay!

all that wait paid off


Posted by koa on 05-22-2002 08:02 PM:

Centropy came through with another excellent release!!


Posted by Dextrose on 05-22-2002 08:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lerkster


Thanks Dextrose. Can you tell me what DVD player you and your friends have?

And THANKS CENTROPY - YOU ROCK !!

lerkster



My dvd player is pioneer dv-343 (sync problems probably the same for the 333)
friends dvd player is a sharp (dunno model number but its somethin like 736)
but it also works fine on another friends dvd player (its a scan i think).


Posted by Div on 05-22-2002 08:47 PM:

quote:

Its probably his dvd player, the centropy releases r always out of sync on my player but always perfect on my friends.



It obviously has something to do with the way they encode their svcds. Many other pal/ntsc svcds (dvdrips in this case) work fine.


Posted by Oliver25687 on 05-22-2002 09:12 PM:

I love U Cebtropy

i love star wars but not as much as i love this release centropy u rule now i can watch it in my home well if i could find a place 2 D/L it oh well i sure it will find its way to my house some how


Posted by simonap on 05-22-2002 09:27 PM:

centropy's vcd's and svcd's never used to work on my dvd player the audio used to pop and then go outa sync so i started just running the audio through tmpgenc and that was fine but now if i burn the cue/bin file with nero the vcd/svcd works fine dunno why oh i used to burn them with fireburner so it must have been some setting in there but now all is good just waiting to get hold of this release thanks guys


Posted by so|ar_eC|ipse on 05-22-2002 09:30 PM:

Question is it deceptive?

Just wondering if anybody had any details on the quality of this release. I'm sure everyone learned a lesson by trusting the pics of the SeVCD release of starwars. The pics looked amazing but when you actually watched it, the quality sucked just as bad as the FTF release and others. Obviously you cannot judge the quality of the film by the pics posted up. sw2.SeVCD was a prime example of this fact. If anybody has true knowledge of the quality of this release please post a msg and let the world know.


Posted by cabledude on 05-22-2002 09:32 PM:

All I can say is wow. ANOther great TS.SVCD, keep em rolling !!


Posted by Anaker on 05-22-2002 09:35 PM:

Thumbs up Great JOB!!!

u the best Centropy!!! keep up the great work! [COLOR=red][B]


Posted by so|ar_eC|ipse on 05-22-2002 09:44 PM:

Question is it deceptive????

Just wanted to see if anybody had actually seen this release on their TV. I'm sure everyone has learned from sw2.SeVCD that you can't judge the quality of the release by the pictures posted. SeVCD looked beautiful in the pictures posted but in reality the quality sucked just as bad as the FTF release and others. If someone has actually watched this release please post a comment in regards to what the quality looks like in comparison to another movie. Thanks.


Posted by so|ar_eC|ipse on 05-22-2002 10:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by limeb
Screenshots look brilliant and now just waiting for the d/l,



You should'nt rely on the pics posted. Take sw2.SeVCD as a prime example as to how pics can be deceptive. Pics looked great for the SeVCD release and the shit sucked as bad as the rest. Don't rely on the pictures posted. ask somebody that has actually seen the movie already.


Posted by Surtes on 05-22-2002 10:24 PM:

Thank god you finally released Episode 2 . Great job CTP, your work is much appreciated, keep it up


Posted by EmptyG on 05-22-2002 10:45 PM:

Wow. I cannot WAIT to get this one. Thank you Centropy!


Posted by simonap on 05-22-2002 10:45 PM:

i used to get a lot of problems with ctp vcd's and svcd's when i burnt them with fireburner the audio would go all funny and then go outa sync now i burn them with nero just choose burn image then load the cue sheet and they play fine wierd but it works


Posted by M_J on 05-22-2002 10:52 PM:

good rls.. shitty movie tho


Posted by BrAinZ on 05-22-2002 10:52 PM:

Oh Lordie Lord.. CTP does it again....

Now I just gotta find the bloody thing


Posted by pseudonym on 05-22-2002 11:27 PM:

Could anyone tell me the exact name of the file please ?


Posted by cawknballs on 05-22-2002 11:28 PM:

_)_)||||||||||D


Posted by pseudonym on 05-22-2002 11:34 PM:

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Posted by bambambam on 05-22-2002 11:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by timmehlove
The AR is off by miles :/ In PowerDVD you can make it better by going full screen, setting Pan&Scan to 1.85:1 then ticking keep aspect ratio - it's a bit better then but why ctp make the AR wrong? Or is it a PAL/NTSC thing?


It's because you are watching it in PowerDVD and it doesn't handle the PAL right. Play it on a standalone DVD player and the aspect ratio is perfect.


Posted by milk02 on 05-22-2002 11:39 PM:

actually i know why the ar is fucked up
its in pal format , 480 x576 vs ntsc 480x480.


Posted by Angeluskazama on 05-22-2002 11:48 PM:

I sometimes have probs with the Centropy releases on my Wharfedale 750S while they play fine on the PC and on another DVD player. But, I usually re-encode them with TMPEGENC and they work fine for me. Try doing that if you have probs, it seems to work.

Otherwise, all of Centropys releases are GREAT quality... keep up the good work guys!


Posted by frysboxen on 05-22-2002 11:54 PM:

Nice one!


Posted by anchovie on 05-22-2002 11:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fignutz
I'm new here, so go easy on the flaming people.


You didn't come in here with an attitude, so feel safe.

quote:
The VCD is ok quality, apart from the sound going at the start of the both discs. Not to the best VCD release I have seen, but its not bad. Just wish they couldve kept the credits in there, I wanted to hear Vader's breathing at the end of the credits.


Are you sure you're on about the Centropy release though? I know there were earlier releases with the sound problems because they were ripped from copies of the same cap, but surely Centropy have obtained this from a fresh source?

Can someone who's downloaded this (rather than posting their joy over "kickass screenshots") confirm, please?


Posted by Jc100 on 05-22-2002 11:56 PM:

OK i am gonna ask a question many people are prob thinking, Is this another SVCD pal release that doesnt work on the pioneer 440? please let me know before i spend my time donwloadng this. I have always loved ctp stuff but WISH theyd go for NTSC. ANyway, id appreciated specs on this movie if possible as in pal or ntsc and thx


Posted by VCDz on 05-23-2002 12:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by M_J
good rls.. shitty movie tho




BAD MOVIE?????? It was awesome!


Posted by hippyhater on 05-23-2002 12:19 AM:

i liked episode 2 it was good


and in my opinion (if you guys care =-) )

you should get an apex ad-1500.

they play every format and their pretty much the cheapest dvd player out there

i havent had 1 problem with any release or type of disk

and its hackable =-)


Posted by HuFFKING on 05-23-2002 12:21 AM:

Talking Amazing

They came out with the realese!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Centropy OWNs Great work Hopefully they came continue TO realese even more MOVIES SVcd!


Posted by **TheWhiz**02 on 05-23-2002 12:42 AM:

Talking

No one will probably look at this but yet again these guy r owning the scene[ thr like Canada mens hockey team ]

9/9


Posted by BongRipper on 05-23-2002 12:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Div
great release, but unfortunately the aspect is f-cked up again + the sound is not compete sync.
Why doesn't centropy fix this? you would think they know how to encode when they are able to make such nice telesyncs.



Sorry no review here - I'm currently pulling this one down from the newsgroups - I'll review shortly.

But to answer your question - AR & audio outta-sync is due to the fact that CTP always encodes their releases in PAL which doesn't work quite right on an NTSC system. Their releases are always out of whack like this for me on my Apex AD703, though they do play OK. Of course, folks outside of the US, who have PAL systems, see no problem w/ this at all (which is fine - 'cause I ain't a haytah, I'm a perpatraytah).

All it means is that you must re-encode the mpgs to NTSC w/ TMPEGEnc.

BTW, if you are gonna try this, I recommend you demux the audio & video first, decompress the audio to a wav file, and then use the two separate aud & vid files as your encoding sources. I have had better luck keeping the audio in sync doing it that way.

Sure wish they'd release their flix in NTSC, but seeing that this is a global community that doesn't necessarily cater to the good 'ol US of A, I'll take it any way they want to serve it up!

Much love & mad props to CTP!

BR
}:-o ==()


Posted by ams30gts on 05-23-2002 01:09 AM:

movie was good....definitely better than phantom menace. for those who complain about these VCDs going out of sync....just spend a little bit of cash and buy yourself a good dvd player


Posted by Diezel on 05-23-2002 01:20 AM:

applausa

Applausa***Applausa

Now gonna go get the full thing from my sites...


Posted by skunkyhydro on 05-23-2002 01:23 AM:

i just d/l the sample and the movie, and to all you people saying this is an execellent release, fuck you. no seriously go die.


Posted by Aphex2 on 05-23-2002 01:34 AM:

thanks centropy for quality releases. some of the other groups could learn a few things from youll. we prefer QUALITY over a crap/quick release


Posted by Aphex2 on 05-23-2002 01:42 AM:

thx centropy. other groups could use some lessons from u guys.

quality > quick/crap release


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-23-2002 02:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by skunkyhydro
fuck you. no seriously go die.


Haha, you sound so much like a mate of mine, that actually put a smile on my face since i havn't seen them for some time.

Now, if only you were to backup your opinion with a little detail as to what is so bad about it, afterall, that is what this thread is for.

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Posted by FalcO on 05-23-2002 02:37 AM:

SHOLD ME NUKED

this release shold be nuked ctp release *THE END IS MISSING* 1-2 minutes is missing of the movie


Posted by Wingman69 on 05-23-2002 03:00 AM:

Has yet to play in my Apex AD-1100W. Burned it on cdrs cdrws extracted the mpeg and burned as svcd in nero and it doesnt play.


Posted by ashtray13 on 05-23-2002 03:19 AM:

Something.We.Had.Laying.Around.SVCD.TS-Centropy
LOL i saw that i thought that was a movie lol :-P
Something we had laying around staring... BLAH BLAH BLAH LOL


Posted by Hipnotik on 05-23-2002 03:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by hippyhater
i liked episode 2 it was good


and in my opinion (if you guys care =-) )

you should get an apex ad-1500.

they play every format and their pretty much the cheapest dvd player out there

i havent had 1 problem with any release or type of disk

and its hackable =-)



i agree, i just picked one up this weekend after reading all of the positive reviews about it on vcdhelp, i just had to get one.
way better than the sony i have, which was also $150 less.

as far as the film being shit quality, haven't had a chance to see it yet but if it's anything like the spiderman release, i can understand the complaint, since i am so spoiled with nothing but svcd dvd rips. but please, elaborate.


Posted by xtc66 on 05-23-2002 04:13 AM:

ahem

too many leechers on the top sites people! everyone that has ep 2 uses that fact to tease instead of distro..watch who you add to the sites lamers..fuckin quit adding little fore eyed leechers


Posted by DEBAIN09 on 05-23-2002 04:51 AM:

I just wanna know if the damn svcd of star wars is any good? I have an mpg fromat of it and it sux compares to alot of other first releases its good enough to watch but waiting for a better clearer versiion now does the svcd version have shitty sound and unclear picture or is it good? i see alot of ppl saying its awesome and others saying it sux wich is it?


Posted by DEBAIN09 on 05-23-2002 04:53 AM:

is it good or not someone please tell me?


Posted by NYHC on 05-23-2002 04:57 AM:

Personally i am not a starwars fan at all. I dont see why everyone is jiz'ing over this rls quality. yes its better then all the others but is it really good enough to kiss ass this much?
for god sakes it fucking high tech stuffed animals.


Posted by MovieGod on 05-23-2002 05:10 AM:

Damn..Damn...Damn...wow..wow..wow..>WHAT?? WHAT?? WHAT??


nuff said..

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Posted by Jc100 on 05-23-2002 05:22 AM:

Little off topic, but im wondering, would it be flamed if groups like CTP would do dual rls, one pal and one NTSC. These guys do kickass work, but in a universal scene, itd be easier to accomdate everyone then have to spend the time to fix the crap yaself. Even then, if your dvd does play it, i am not so lucky, people r on here complaining bout audio. Just a thought... dont hthink anyone frm the groups prob read this buy hey you never know.


Posted by tylerdurden on 05-23-2002 05:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BongRipper
All it means is that you must re-encode the mpgs to NTSC w/ TMPEGEnc.

BTW, if you are gonna try this, I recommend you demux the audio & video first, decompress the audio to a wav file, and then use the two separate aud & vid files as your encoding sources. I have had better luck keeping the audio in sync doing it that way.

Sure wish they'd release their flix in NTSC, but seeing that this is a global community that doesn't necessarily cater to the good 'ol US of A, I'll take it any way they want to serve it up!
}:-o ==() [/B]


I'm downloading the flick now, and I'll hopefully have a review of the quality. However, I went through the same AR prob with the CTP release of Spiderman. Yeah, it's in PAL. No worries though.

However I was wondering if there was a guide to BR's proposed fix from PAL TO NTSC. I've done some straight rips from DVD to SVCD, but I've never converted a mpeg2 stream from pal NTSC.
I searched google, Doom9, VCDhelp...no dice. If anyone has any tut's or links to tut's , I'd greatly appreciate it. As my Pioneer DV343 seems to have a minimal, but annoying chop in the playback, which is not present on an APEX.

Thanks in advance...


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-23-2002 06:27 AM:

Re: SHOLD ME NUKED

quote:
Originally posted by FalcO
this release shold be nuked ctp release *THE END IS MISSING* 1-2 minutes is missing of the movie


as is the case with plenty of CAMs and the occasional TS, and then there are WPs that ca have missing parts all over the place, should they all be nuked??
releases are not nuked because of missing a minute or two, i could understand a SCR being nuked for such a reason, but not a TS.
quote:
Originally posted by xtc66
too many leechers on the top sites people! everyone that has ep 2 uses that fact to tease instead of distro..watch who you add to the sites lamers..fuckin quit adding little fore eyed leechers

1. those with topsite access have earned there spot.
2. helping distro something is a choice a person makes.
3. forgive me if i am wrong, but is it not upto the site owners/siteops who gets access, afterall they are the people that run it.

Edit: p.s. "watch who you add to the sites lamers"??? well thats some great respect for ya there.

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Posted by tylerdurden on 05-23-2002 07:18 AM:

re:EPII

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All it means is that you must re-encode the mpgs to NTSC w/ TMPEGEnc.

BTW, if you are gonna try this, I recommend you demux the audio & video first, decompress the audio to a wav file, and then use the two separate aud & vid files as your encoding sources. I have had better luck keeping the audio in sync doing it that way.
BR
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I just the preview, and it does look pretty good. Perhaps not as good as Spiderman, but it is tough to say because the preview scenes are mostly backround with the characters in the distance.
Audio sounded nice though.

BR- Do you have any links or TUT's on converting PAL to NTSC? I've converted DVD's to SVCD's, but I've never manipulated an already encoded disk. I've been to the usual haunts, Doom9, Vcdhelp, google search, but I haven't found anything useful or maybe I missed it.

Thanks in advance...


Posted by plonk420 on 05-23-2002 08:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
bastards! i meant to go see this in the theater the other day, but i couldn't go.. do they honestly think i have enough will power not to download this?? maybe i could go whilst its downloading, or should i just give in and enjoy.. bastards!!!!



nice one guys, dig the folder title, and the nfo graphics rock.



bwahaha... got to see it opening day... so to speak... opening (theater) business day... the midnight show (following Thursday, 11:59pm, that is) ...damn lucky, too, as there were less than 30 ppl in the theater. everyone goes to the "other" company in town <cough>tinseltown</cough> ...even tho we have an (ex-)THX certified house, which is good enough for me...


Posted by plonk420 on 05-23-2002 08:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BongRipper
But to answer your question - AR & audio outta-sync is due to the fact that CTP always encodes their releases in PAL which doesn't work quite right on an NTSC system. Their releases are always out of whack like this for me on my Apex AD703, though they do play OK. Of course, folks outside of the US, who have PAL systems, see no problem w/ this at all (which is fine - 'cause I ain't a haytah, I'm a perpatraytah).

Sure wish they'd release their flix in NTSC, but seeing that this is a global community that doesn't necessarily cater to the good 'ol US of A, I'll take it any way they want to serve it up!



uhm, no. out of sync was because they were doing their vid at 32kbs higher and their audio 32kbs lower than the OFFICIAL VCD spec STANDARD.

and don't expect any PAL releasers to release in NTSC. everyone who does seems to think PAL is better.

as for my opinion, i disagree whole heartedly (that PAL is better) until someone shows me otherwise... =b ...but i really don't care, since my unit can play PAL on NTSC just fine (maybe a little tall, but no sync probs)


Posted by plonk420 on 05-23-2002 08:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hipnotik
i agree, i just picked one up this weekend after reading all of the positive reviews about it on vcdhelp, i just had to get one.
way better than the sony i have, which was also $150 less.



uhm, the 1500 is like $60-70.... unless you meant "AND was also $150 less."


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-23-2002 09:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by plonk420
and don't expect any PAL releasers to release in NTSC. everyone who does seems to think PAL is better.

as for my opinion, i disagree whole heartedly



Ok, now im curious, so would you care to back up or give reasons for why you believe that NTSC is better/superior to PAL?

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Posted by SPS on 05-23-2002 12:47 PM:

this isnt a new rip. Its was a VERY INTERNAL release by centropy and made like 1 - 2 days after the FTF rlz...

the thing is that they didnt want too much media attencion.. thats why they are rlzing it for public now....

GREAT MOVIE

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Posted by jonno on 05-23-2002 02:52 PM:

quality is as good as Spider man,but,i can't burn disc 1.
i've wasted 5 blanks trying,but it just don't wanna know.
i've used fireburner and cdr win,but still no joy.


Posted by dvman on 05-23-2002 02:55 PM:

PAL vs. NTSC

NTSC = Never The Same Colour

Great work guys...


Posted by queb on 05-23-2002 03:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jonno
quality is as good as Spider man,but,i can't burn disc 1.
i've wasted 5 blanks trying,but it just don't wanna know.
i've used fireburner and cdr win,but still no joy.



Try ripping the mpeg out of the bin file and getting nero to burn it as a svcd ... you'll need something like isobuster to take out the mpeg

http://www.smart-projects.net/isobuster/

Hope that helps you on your way


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-23-2002 04:04 PM:

jonno

make sure to use the default ASPI drivers, not the ones that get installed with CDRWin. Thats actually quite a common problem.

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Posted by timmehlove on 05-23-2002 05:55 PM:

Listening to this on my headphones with no virtual dolby stuff on, the soundtrack is dual-mono. Same audio out of left and right channels, no stereo separation. Just FYI.


Posted by dargo on 05-23-2002 05:57 PM:

Question ep2 svcd centropy

quote:
Originally posted by mrnygiants
I love you guys, but Please Stop with the SVCD!!!! VCD IS THE BEST!!!!!

P.S. Thank You from all of us leechers



vcd is the best? please explain how a lower resolution is better?
svcd is by far a better format, perhaps your old gear can't handle it.


Posted by Arnaudt on 05-23-2002 06:19 PM:

Yep ... great release from Centropy but again this was an Internal at first (was made just after FTF's), and it's good to see it's available now! Great job Centropy, finally a good release of this movies.


Posted by djpipw on 05-23-2002 06:28 PM:

this great..but..does anyone else have the sound going low at35mins into the first disc, its as if the guy unplugged on of the channels on the audio?? anyone else?? or is it my version??

cheers


Posted by Oliver25687 on 05-23-2002 06:40 PM:

Star wars

i realy want to no if all the version as missing 1 or 2 mins because the end is realy important to me


Posted by cameronsdad on 05-23-2002 07:42 PM:

quote:
this great..but..does anyone else have the sound going low at35mins into the first disc, its as if the guy unplugged on of the channels on the audio?? anyone else?? or is it my version??


djpipw I have the same thing on my copy it last for a minute or 2 other than that its great and the picture is near perfect


Posted by djpipw on 05-23-2002 07:49 PM:

thanks for the reply camerons dad..glad im not the only one!


Posted by dogbollox on 05-23-2002 08:42 PM:

Re: Wooooo Hooooo

quote:
Originally posted by oj simpson
Transferred: ctp-ep2a.r51 15,000,000 bytes in 00:07 (2,092.63 k/sec)


LOL


Posted by shagman on 05-23-2002 08:46 PM:

why do so many of you fuckin moan ?
its free if you want perfect quality go to the fuckin cinema or wait till the dvd comes out.
it continually pisses me of that you moan about stupid things like it was encoded in pal.
does it ever occur to you that most of the group are europeans.
just download it watch it and stop your whinning.


Posted by MrPlow on 05-23-2002 08:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
OK i am gonna ask a question many people are prob thinking, Is this another SVCD pal release that doesnt work on the pioneer 440? please let me know before i spend my time donwloadng this. I have always loved ctp stuff but WISH theyd go for NTSC. ANyway, id appreciated specs on this movie if possible as in pal or ntsc and thx


Just reencode it with TMPGenc with the ntsc svcd template and it should work fine with the pioneer dv-440


Posted by moesyzlak on 05-23-2002 09:10 PM:

How is this release in comparison to the proper release? I have the proper, is it worth the DL to get CTP?


Posted by Marx^ on 05-23-2002 10:15 PM:

[NO REQUESTS, YOUR NEW, NOW YOU KNOW, I'VE REMOVED YOUR REQUEST - GANDALF]


Posted by webster4life00 on 05-23-2002 10:18 PM:

[NO REQUESTS, YOUR NEW, NOW YOU KNOW, I'VE REMOVED YOUR QUESTION - GANDALF]


Posted by Zipomatic on 05-23-2002 10:27 PM:

Y'know...

First time poster, long time reader.

It makes me smile when I see people claiming that after the "long wait" Centropy have "finally" released Episode 2. Wow, it took all of... what? 5 days after the offical opening date? I'm suprised some of you people could hold out that long.

Yeah, yeah, I know that the other versions were pre-releases, so you had to wait for almost a whole TWO WEEKS before getting a good version of the movie (which I thought sucked)

How do you stop people bitching about quality/speed of release/yada,yada,yada

The answer to the problems is easy.

From now on groups should ONLY release DVD Screeners and even then only a month before the movie goes on general release.

That would keep the whiners happy, as for me, I am happy to get free movies regardless.


Posted by BongRipper on 05-23-2002 10:36 PM:

Re: re:EPII

quote:
Originally posted by tylerdurden
quote:
BR- Do you have any links or TUT's on converting PAL to NTSC? I've converted DVD's to SVCD's, but I've never manipulated an already encoded disk. I've been to the usual haunts, Doom9, Vcdhelp, google search, but I haven't found anything useful or maybe I missed it.



Go to this link: http://www.vcdhelp.com/pal2ntsc/pal2ntsc.htm

It is a step-by-step rundown of how to do it. The only thing I would recommend you do differently is to split the audio & video first, decompress the audio to .wav, and then do the re-encode w/ the two separate files.

Good Luck!

BR


Posted by BongRipper on 05-23-2002 10:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by plonk420


uhm, no. out of sync was because they were doing their vid at 32kbs higher and their audio 32kbs lower than the OFFICIAL VCD spec STANDARD.



Thanks for that info - that is helpful!

I'll still need to re-encode, though, just to get the AR right...


BR


Posted by Tamed_G on 05-23-2002 10:49 PM:

Wow another example of my total lack of contacts and information - another kick as release that everyone on VCD Q forums found in their Coco Pops when they woke up.

Is there something I should know?

Tamed G


Posted by jonno on 05-24-2002 12:16 AM:

seems this should be named bitch 'n' moan forum .
too much bitchin,not enough serious comments.Who really cares about aspect ratio,pal or ntsc,vcd or svcd..........are you not getting it free???nuff said.......

movie is better than the last one,in my opinion.
quality is very good,sound is very good.9/10
well done CTP.


Posted by Dragon Lord on 05-24-2002 01:54 AM:

I was wondering if any one could help me here i downloaded
Star Wars Episode 2 - TELESYNC - Centropy and have the following crc errors...
cd 1 #43
cd 2 # 9 # 24
cd 2 # 21 #24

I tried to fix the files with winrar 3.0 with no success i even redownloaded the files and still i get the errors ...

despertly needing help.

TIA Dragon Lord


Posted by Outrage_Display on 05-24-2002 02:13 AM:

Alright, lets not all kiss Centropys ass at 1 time. Yes, I do love Centropy, but open your ears and eyes here ppl.

The sound is not the greatest, it cracks at points and then lowers in tone, then goes back to normal . Most ppl are tone deaf to this just b/c Centropy rlsed this SVCD. Yes, they did a GREAT job on the pic and audio, but this is a major flaw in my book for this great movie.

Video: 8.5
Audio: 7.9
Movie: 9.8


Posted by moesyzlak on 05-24-2002 02:16 AM:

I'm going to expand on my earlier request for a comparison to the proper release. I found the proper release to have so-so sound and was rather dark -- almost impossible to see -- in the darker sections such as the Yoda kicking ass and the sneaking up on Tuskens.

For anyone who has seen both, is this version significantly better in these areas?


Posted by tylerdurden on 05-24-2002 03:35 AM:

Re: Re: re:EPII

quote:
Originally posted by BongRipper


Go to this link: http://www.vcdhelp.com/pal2ntsc/pal2ntsc.htm

It is a step-by-step rundown of how to do it. The only thing I would recommend you do differently is to split the audio & video first, decompress the audio to .wav, and then do the re-encode w/ the two separate files.

Good Luck!

BR



Hey, thanks for the tips! I must have missed that tut. I do a have a minor problem though... when I try to load the sample mpeg from EPII into TMPGenc it won't open it/invalid file...This has happened with the Spiderman and EPII mpegs from CTP. Any advice on how to solve that problem? Heheh...

Thanks again


Posted by 5th on 05-24-2002 05:26 AM:

TMPEGnc

I encoded the movie with the ntsc template like I usualy do with the svcd and divx movies that I download, but with this version of episode2 , the mpg1 file came out like almost 2 seconds out of SYNC......what should I do


Posted by BongRipper on 05-24-2002 05:49 AM:

Re: Re: Re: re:EPII

quote:
Originally posted by tylerdurden

when I try to load the sample mpeg from EPII into TMPGenc it won't open it/invalid file...This has happened with the Spiderman and EPII mpegs from CTP. Any advice on how to solve that problem? Heheh...

Thanks again



Sounds like maybe you don't have the MPEG2 codec loaded on your PC.

Either d/l & install a software DVD player (like PowerDVD or WinDVD) or install a codec pack that has the MPEG2 codec in it - bgPop or maybe Krystal Studio. Not sure about those codec packs, like which one has the codec you need - look on http://www.vcdhelp.com & see what they say/have available for d/l...or maybe someone will follow up in this thread.

I just finished my disk one d/l - review to follow shortly!

BR


Posted by BongRipper on 05-24-2002 05:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dragon Lord
I downloaded Star Wars Episode 2 - TELESYNC - Centropy and have the following crc errors...
cd 1 #43
cd 2 # 9 # 24
cd 2 # 21 #24

I tried to fix the files with winrar 3.0 with no success i even redownloaded the files and still i get the errors ...



You need to get the PAR files for the set and also get a PAR utility - I recommend Fluid Studio's Raid Toolkit - FSRaid.

Once you got all that, put the PARs in the same directory as your RAR files, open the first PAR file w/ FSRaid & the program will fix any corrupt files for you.

Good luck dude,

BR


Posted by Skater on 05-24-2002 07:02 AM:

I have the same problem with TEMGenc. None of the files can be read into program to convert. Please someone who has conveted either Spiderman oe SWE2 post comments on this. In therory and by all directions I have seen this should work but it does not.


Posted by Bud-man on 05-24-2002 01:01 PM:

This is Centrpy's worst svcd release yet...like said earlier sound at times is unstable the bright scenes are horrible......should of been never made a svcd, the quality difference would be so minimal..what a few pixels damaged?....waste of a 3rd disc, i'll convert to vcd anyway


Posted by Bud-man on 05-24-2002 01:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shagman
[does it ever occur to you that most of the group are europeans.
just download it watch it and stop your whinning. [/B]


Idoubt by europeans...most likely MALASYAINS


Posted by Obi Jace on 05-24-2002 01:21 PM:

Centropy? Where?

I can't find the files anywhere (sorry new to this) I found a version but its like 352x240 and pretty crappy.
Can anyone tell me what TMD and SMR stand for and does TC stand for telecine? 'cause none of the pictures I have seen look like they have been converted through telecine.
If anyone could give me an e-mail at [email protected] or a hint it would be appreciated.


Posted by EXAR KUN on 05-24-2002 01:30 PM:

1st off, this is not a bitch. I am tickled pink to be able to DL this movie months before it is released for home viewing. And yes I have already payed my $ and seen it in the Theater as any discerning movie lover would.

The info re: PAL & NTSC is pertinant and useful to many, so don't be so quick to whine about people whining. And please don't turn this into a PAL is better than NTSC thing. They both have their advantages. In a perfect world we would have NTSC's frame rate with PAL's Scanning lines. But the world simply isn't perfect.

I'm not sure that I'm buying the AR explaination though. To me it seemed that Spider-Man was stretched horizontally, where as SW2 is stretched vertically. If this were simply a PAL/NTSC thing wouldn't both be stretched on the same axis equally. Being that the PAL SVCD standard is wider than NTSC, I could buy that Spider-Man was simply PAL encoded. But SW2 on the other hand is going to look anmorphically distorted even on a PAL system. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I have watched as 3 other versions of this movie were offered on the net and passed them all by. This was the one that got me DLing. WTB Centropy!!! Keep up the great work.


Posted by shagman on 05-24-2002 01:32 PM:

i beg to differ bud-man i know different.


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-24-2002 02:48 PM:

Re: Centropy? Where?

quote:
Originally posted by Obi Jace
Can anyone tell me what TMD and SMR stand for and does TC stand for telecine?

TMD = TheMovieDepot
SMR = ShadowMovieRealm
they are both divx encoding groups.

Yes, TC stands for telecine.

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Posted by MrPlow on 05-24-2002 04:43 PM:

NTSC conversion

quote:
Originally posted by Skater
I have the same problem with TEMGenc. None of the files can be read into program to convert. Please someone who has conveted either Spiderman oe SWE2 post comments on this. In therory and by all directions I have seen this should work but it does not.



1. Download a mpeg2 codec you can find it on vcdhelp.com.

2. Then you should convert your bin/cue file to a mpeg file, use vcdgear. CD1 will give you 2 mpeg files, the first one is the centropy animation, the second one is the movie.

3. Then reencode the mpeg file with TMPGenc with the Super-Video CD NTSC template (it should take a few hours).

4. Burn the new mpeg file with nero using the svcd ntsc.

5. Enjoy this great release


Posted by PhAnToMs on 05-24-2002 06:14 PM:

HOW did this "movie" get better with the centropy release its the same movie

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Posted by p0rnflake on 05-24-2002 07:09 PM:

sucks

The quality is alright for a early rip I guess - but not worth wasting neither space or bandwidth on !


Posted by Angeluskazama on 05-24-2002 08:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by EXAR KUN
I'm not sure that I'm buying the AR explaination though. To me it seemed that Spider-Man was stretched horizontally, where as SW2 is stretched vertically. If this were simply a PAL/NTSC thing wouldn't both be stretched on the same axis equally. Being that the PAL SVCD standard is wider than NTSC, I could buy that Spider-Man was simply PAL encoded. But SW2 on the other hand is going to look anmorphically distorted even on a PAL system. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Yeah, I'm playing it on a PAL 28" Sony Trinitron widescfeen with a Wharfedale 750S DVD player and it does look stretched vertically... however, if I switch the TV from 4:3 to full widescreen mode it looks just about right... which is actually pretty cool and suits me fine


Posted by ams30gts on 05-24-2002 09:46 PM:

i agree. this is not one of Centropy's better releases. picture isnt that clear. but it is way better than any other previous release of this movie. too many idiots rate the movie by the screenshots


Posted by teach42 on 05-24-2002 11:26 PM:

vcd vs. svcd

Hey, Mr. Plow, great directions on how to convert it from pal to nstc. Now, I don't suppose you can add a couple lines about how to convert it from SVCD to VCD?


Posted by BongRipper on 05-25-2002 02:03 AM:

Re: vcd vs. svcd

quote:
Originally posted by teach42
Hey, Mr. Plow,...add a couple lines about how to convert it from SVCD to VCD?

Just follow Mr. Plow's original instructions, except instead of using the NTSC SVCD template, use the template for NTSC VCD.

BR


Posted by Truman on 05-25-2002 02:19 AM:

Geez , there is a lot of 1 posters in this one ........ do you think we been waiting for this one lol THX CTP .....really good quality nothing to be re-encoded here look real sweet , the film oh well blame that on LUCAS .
I bet he is one NOT very happy puppy now lol ........
however all of us here and on the scene really do appreciate you guys bringing out a good quality Rls ..


Posted by TheDiggler on 05-25-2002 02:57 AM:

You have got to be kidding!

Is Outrage_Display the only guy that watched the CTP copy? Thanks for the post, just wish I did not have to sort through 100+ messages of BS!

First, as always, thanks got out to CTP and all other groups!

Picture quality is much better then any other release. There are some really bright spots but nothing to be worried about. The sound on the other had has problems. The scene where Obi talks to the four armed dude looses volume for like 2 mins. There are pops here and there and in some scenes it will loose synce for 2-3 seconds.

I have all of the other SW 2 releases and by far this is best. If you must have a copy of this movie then CTP (as usual) is your best bet. Is it perfect? No.

If you are troubled by my post or think I am bashing CTP you are simply wrong. The whole point (from my limited understanding) is to give people a heads-up on the quality. If I have detered someone from taking up bandwidth to get a release they are not happy with then I have done some good.


Posted by misfits138 on 05-25-2002 04:39 AM:

i'm starting to like centropy svcd form...for some reason the svcd's have no sync problem like the vcd's did on my apex but the svcd's do come with another problem (very small one)...some points in the movie i get a flash of colored garble but its very quick and most of the time it in the black box at the bottom of the screen and in starwars it only happend maybe 3 time on each cd...it happend a lot in spiderman though.

what part of the film is missing from this centropy release?this is the first time i've seen the film.

oh yeah and the quality is pretty good in this release,good color and not much of that annoying blue problem most centropy releases have but some parts of the film turn out very bright cause a bright blur but it seems to fix itself after a few seconds.sound is great but for one part of the movie where the sound gets very low on and off for about 3 minutes.


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-25-2002 04:44 AM:

ok, i got and watched it, and it is not as bad as some people make out, although i dont believe it warrented a SVCD.

Also, all those saying how crap the movie is, you obviously didn't pay all that much attention to the storyline, although i didn't like how it was based on the love of Anakin and Padmé, there are allot of significant events leading upto the beginning of the rise of Dark Sith, all in all i thought the storyline was much more developed and thought out than Episode I was.

p.s. Yoda Rulez & i am not a starwars finatic in any way

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Posted by jjjstr8 on 05-25-2002 05:52 AM:

this release is great

first post, just wanted to touch base. this release is much clearer, then previous releases. sound is alittle crackly, but over all great on a digital surround system. the only set back it the brightness in some parts of the movies, the brights seem alittle blinding at times. but a solid 8 on pic, and sound, 9 on the movie itself. and I also noticed someone stating that it is missing the ending, not true. it is complete all the way to begining of credits. (note, however you dled it, you downloaded an uncompleted file). well. anyways. centropy rocks, along with every other group that brings us the releases on a day to day basis. Ive seen crappy copies, and i seen excellent, but when the day was done, its all good. enjoy.


Posted by CoWs` on 05-25-2002 07:11 AM:

Well first off... This is a Centropy SVCD so its obviously gonna be good... Don't even bother with the "unwatchable" FTF...I mean it is "Free"...but, the FTF hurts to watch...I am glad Centropy released there SVCD... I m not like sucking up to Centropy or anything...Just stating facts that they are one of the best release groups out there...Enough said...


Posted by hacku on 05-25-2002 07:19 AM:

I really don't understand what some people are bitching about.

I burned and played it on my Apex DVD player and watched it on my 32" RCA and the quality was superb. I didn't have any problems with the picture or the audio in any of the 3 CD's.

This release is by far the best one around. Props still go out to the other groups but I will have to say that Centropy has done it again.

Great job CTP. I'm looking forward to many more high quality releases from your group...

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Posted by plonk420 on 05-25-2002 12:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ^Om3n


Ok, now im curious, so would you care to back up or give reasons for why you believe that NTSC is better/superior to PAL?



well, not counting that 60-field (or whatever) PAL, 24fps film tranlates to NTSC with no (or microscopicly little) change in speed. yeah, it's got pulldown, but that won't matter until EVERYONE has a HDTV with 720/1080p screens, now will it?

motion would be smoother on sports games...

yeah, PAL is progressive... but, granted you see this, what are your reasons for liking PAL better? (i'd come up with more, save for the fact i need some sleep for the day....)


Posted by plonk420 on 05-25-2002 12:52 PM:

Re: PAL vs. NTSC

quote:
Originally posted by dvman
NTSC = Never The Same Colour


mmmm... but PAL = People Are Lavender


Posted by misfits138 on 05-25-2002 12:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by hacku
I really don't understand what some people are bitching about.

I burned and played it on my Apex DVD player and watched it on my 32" RCA and the quality was superb. I didn't have any problems with the picture or the audio in any of the 3 CD's.

This release is by far the best one around. Props still go out to the other groups but I will have to say that Centropy has done it again.

Great job CTP. I'm looking forward to many more high quality releases from your group...




its not bitching...whats the point of vcdquality.com if noone tells you about the flaws?


Posted by Gurpinder on 05-25-2002 02:00 PM:

Re: Re: PAL vs. NTSC

quote:
Originally posted by plonk420


mmmm... but PAL = People Are Lavender



um no....

NTSC : Never the same color
SECAM : System Essentially Contrary to the American Method
PAL : Perfect at last


Posted by bitchie on 05-25-2002 02:28 PM:

damn nice!

fucking nice release!!!!


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-25-2002 03:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by plonk420
what are your reasons for liking PAL better?


I didn't say that i thought PAL was better, i know not enough about PAL and NTSC to compare the two, which is why i asked.

I know the basics such as different resolutions, frame rates, PAL is progressive NTSC is interlaced, ect, but little beyond that.

Edit: The standard here is PAL, this may have nothing to do with the two standard but the colors in NTSC always seem to be a little dull in comparrison to PAL.

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Posted by EXAR KUN on 05-25-2002 05:25 PM:

quote:
The standard here is PAL, this may have nothing to do with the two standard but the colors in NTSC always seem to be a little dull in comparrison to PAL.


Quite the opposite actually.

Due to PAL's reversal of sub-carrier phase on alternate lines, any phase error will be corrected by an equal and oposite error on the next line, thus correcting the original error. PAL achieves accurate color through cancelling out phase differences between the two signals. The act of cancelling out errors reduces the color, or should I say coulour , saturation while holding the hue stable.

In other words PAL colours appear more consistant, but NTSC colors are more vibrant.

We are straying OT here though, maybe someone should start a new thread.


Posted by phpdood on 05-25-2002 05:49 PM:

there was some fuzz as if someone was fixing a wire and the sound would come on and off at times, this was like in the 30minutes of CD1... as someone said they had this the first week FTF release their copy.. maybe Centrophy should of help FTF get some boosts in tha ratings by giving them their copy


Posted by maxmouse1 on 05-25-2002 06:34 PM:

Awesome Job Centropy!

I got this release and burned it and it looks great! It looks better than vhs quality in a lot of it. Thanks for this release Centropy. Keep up all the good work.


Posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi on 05-25-2002 10:08 PM:

this release is awesome can't fault it in anyway considering it has only been just over a week since its release keep em coming Centropy !!!!!


Posted by caipirina on 05-26-2002 01:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by hippyhater
i
you should get an apex ad-1500.

they play every format and their pretty much the cheapest dvd player out there

i havent had 1 problem with any release or type of disk

and its hackable =-)



PLEASE TELL ME HOW !!!


Posted by BongRipper on 05-26-2002 08:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by caipirina


PLEASE TELL ME HOW !!!



To find out how to hack the apex, check out http://www.nerd-out.com/ (Apex info pages) first, then go to the apex dvd yahoo group here at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apex_dvd/

Now, we can all stop going OT w/ the PAL/NTSC debate (me included), I think.. FWIW, Mine is:

Aud: 7.5
Vid: 8.5
Movie: 7.0

This was a good one from CTP, not their best, but their best is frikkin awesome, isn't it! Definitely worth the D/L IMHO...


Posted by moesyzlak on 05-26-2002 06:58 PM:

Good, but the sound is still lacking. It is better than the proper version but not by much. My main complaint with the proper release was the that it was too dark in some scenes. This release corrects that problem but has trouble in a few spots with it being TOO bright. Though, I'd reather have it too bright than too dark.


Posted by buba on 05-26-2002 08:34 PM:

First things first...
I have not seen the whole movie yet.. just the first cd.. i though it was really b00ring :P (i'm not a starwars fan)

Everyting works fine on my Kiss DVDPlayer. Audio in sync.

This is a VERY good TS.
Some audio problems on the first cd nothing too bad though. In some very bright areas it is hard to see anything.. (I have not seen the movie in the cine so i dont know if its supposed to be like this)

Now to the flames :P

How can anyone bring themselvs to say VCD is better than SVCD. they must be terribly misinformed.
VCD: 356x256@CBR (CONSTANT BIT RATE!)
SVCD: 480x480/576@VBR (variable bit rate)

PAL vs. NTSC:
NTSC: [email protected]
PAL: 480x576@25fps

Americans have some really strange standards :P PAL is better. First it is a newer standard, it has a higher resolution and a more comfortable fps.


Posted by TheHolyOne on 05-26-2002 09:00 PM:

Nice, I knew they'd do it Way to not disappoint the fans centropy.


Posted by shmurgish on 05-27-2002 01:09 AM:

Exclamation respect the centropy!!! (attack of the clones)

just saw a few minutes of this release and it´s much more than i was expecting. d/l a the proper version last week but this crap in comparision with centropy. image very good just some small sound probs everything seems very fine....respect!!!

s.

p.s. but no doubt about it YOU have to see this movie at a cinema with THX-sound-system. this copy is just for the long time future (2005) till the saga continues.
how many times i saw the original 3 parts! hundred times...;-)


Posted by Unbreakable on 05-27-2002 01:10 AM:

Centropy rullez!


Posted by Resnullius on 05-27-2002 02:09 AM:

Unhappy 3 releases three strikes

1ftf shitty quality but full movie
2sevcd better quality than ftf(not by much) and almost complete(only the generic missing
3 ctp good quality(spiderman was better tho...) and abit of footage missing at the end of disk 2 and about 10minutes at the end (the end being fairly important)
you better go see this one at the theatre... or wait for the dvd


Posted by cameronsdad on 05-27-2002 09:07 AM:

quote:
ctp good quality(spiderman was better tho...) and abit of footage missing at the end of disk 2 and about 10minutes at the end (the end being fairly important)

I thank you need to cd 2 and 3 on your pc I have watched the whole nmovie and there is nothing missing going from cd2 to cd3 and it plays all the way up to the closing creidits. Some dvd players will sometimes not play all the way to the end of some cds try checking it on your pc and I bet you will find that its all there


Posted by CraXyXarC on 05-27-2002 10:25 AM:

my cd3 was also cut off and i watched it on my computer with windvd. is there a way to make it play the whole movie or something else that won't cut it off?


Posted by Boggle on 05-27-2002 11:00 AM:

I was very pleased with this version.
Quality is far better than the previous 2 versions i had and it does look like the last cople of mins are missing but they are not vital to the film


Posted by Naughty_Sauce on 05-27-2002 11:48 AM:

I just checked it on my computer using Elecard MPEG 2 Player and the ending is all there, right up until the point where it says "Directed by George Lucas".


Posted by Naughty_Sauce on 05-27-2002 02:33 PM:

Weird, the ending is there when I play the third disc in my Plextor drive, but it gets cut off when playing it on my Toshiba DVD-ROM. Hmm, oh well.


Posted by spooky pimp on 05-28-2002 05:01 AM:

Spooks, here. Watched this last weekend on my Electrohome DVD Player...the AR didn't look as bad as it did on my comp using WinDVD. But you know what? IT DOESN'T MATTER! I still get to watch the movie whenever I want, and that's what I'm happy about. Great job with the rlz, Centropy! If pple can't deal with the extra CD, don't dl it or learn to recode. Just please don't complain!

**************************************************
Video: 8----> GREAT colour and detail..holds up with motion..PAL res
Audio: 7----> Sound is full and rich...slight fallout @ 31:07 on CD1..great, though!
Overall: 8.5--> A great film and a great rlz..man, I hope I get to post more reviews of rlz's like this!!
**************************************************


Posted by dystopian on 05-28-2002 05:57 AM:

Re: ahem

quote:
Originally posted by xtc66
too many leechers on the top sites people! everyone that has ep 2 uses that fact to tease instead of distro..watch who you add to the sites lamers..fuckin quit adding little fore eyed leechers
Heh you act like a site is some sort of public institution, that it's your tax dollars at work & ppl'd better straighten the fuck up with what they do with THEIR SITES...

Why don't you figure out who the lamer is, here... suppose i decide "ahem... xtc66 has been seen inviting his friends over to dinner, and they just eat it, and don't take any to the homeless shelters... you'd better get straight, lamer! invite people over to eat your food who give it out to me and my friends, too, or else!"

WTF???? who are you (or anybody) to tell some siteop who to let on his site? if he wants to have nobody but his great-granny leech from that site, and that's it, that's what he's going to do, and you can either like it, or be SOL. Deal, asshole.


Posted by Backlund on 05-28-2002 11:30 AM:

End is there

I watched it on PowerDVD XP and the end was there. Even the first few seconds of the credits are in tact. Seems strange that so many people are missing the end.


Posted by Peilo on 05-28-2002 10:25 PM:

Yes this is true, overall this is a great release, best to date, but sound does start screwing up towards the end of the first disk, honestly thats all I watched was the first disc, I have seen it already, but was checking the quality, and its as good as spiderman, maybe even better besides for the sound problems which if ya ask me is fine, there minor!!!


quote:
Originally posted by djpipw
this great..but..does anyone else have the sound going low at35mins into the first disc, its as if the guy unplugged on of the channels on the audio?? anyone else?? or is it my version??

cheers


Posted by Peilo on 05-28-2002 10:36 PM:

I have to give this post the most support

hit the nail on the head for this one

awsome release esp; to sit at home and watch, as good as spiderman if not better, besides the poping sound towards the end of first disk, and aspect looks fine to me , though I have pal/ntsc player "apex rocks" all you bit*h's should quit crying or go to the theaters yourself and bootleg it, then when ya get caught and sent up the river dont come crying back later on saying "you were all right" just cuzz you got poked up the ass, anyone that has something to say about this release are fuking lame, its a ts for crying out loud, not a fuking dvdrip







quote:
Originally posted by spooky pimp
Spooks, here. Watched this last weekend on my Electrohome DVD Player...the AR didn't look as bad as it did on my comp using WinDVD. But you know what? IT DOESN'T MATTER! I still get to watch the movie whenever I want, and that's what I'm happy about. Great job with the rlz, Centropy! If pple can't deal with the extra CD, don't dl it or learn to recode. Just please don't complain!

**************************************************
Video: 8----> GREAT colour and detail..holds up with motion..PAL res
Audio: 7----> Sound is full and rich...slight fallout @ 31:07 on CD1..great, though!
Overall: 8.5--> A great film and a great rlz..man, I hope I get to post more reviews of rlz's like this!!
**************************************************


Posted by spooky pimp on 05-29-2002 12:05 AM:

Thx, Peilo

Heya, spooks here. Just wanted to say thx for the good word, Peilo. I'm here to post no-bs-reviews, 'cause that's why people come to these boards. Enough with the whining and get down to the real details! I didn't want to be another n00b in the crowd

Thx again, Peilo.... "My kind of fan!"

Watch out for me..I'll be around!


Posted by Peilo on 05-29-2002 04:38 PM:

hey spooks

I hope ya didnt post your real address as location, that wouldnt be wise


Posted by spooky pimp on 05-29-2002 06:55 PM:

haha... don't worry. The only person living at that address is a slightly eccentric paranoid federal agent :-)


Posted by renegade on 05-30-2002 07:44 AM:

I thought was a decent release from ctp. Certainly not there best work. But overall nice colors, a little audio problem on cd1. Thanks ctp for the release.


Posted by jimmyman on 05-31-2002 11:46 PM:

nice

having watched the film shit as a film but good as a release top marks boys


Posted by matt0323 on 06-02-2002 08:08 AM:

prob w/ cd2 burning

do i need a 800 MB CDR >???

cuz i juss finished d/l and i try to burn it and it says please insert a bigger cdr


Posted by Peilo on 06-02-2002 05:26 PM:

Re: prob w/ cd2 burning

are you burning as svcd, close out wizard in nero and go to new, and scroll down to svcd drag the file over to compilation window, let in load up and burn should burn fine up to 800mbs easy, you downloaded this as mpeg or bin and cue ?


quote:
Originally posted by matt0323
do i need a 800 MB CDR >???

cuz i juss finished d/l and i try to burn it and it says please insert a bigger cdr


Posted by matt0323 on 06-02-2002 10:07 PM:

bin/cue


Posted by spooky pimp on 06-03-2002 01:21 AM:

Spooks here. matt0323, there's two ways to burn your .bin/.cue files. Do the first if you want to see your .mpg before you burn, or choose the second if you just want to burn.

1) Grab isoBuster from http://www.smart-projects.net/isobuster/. Double click on the .bin file, enter the MPEG2 folder and right click on the .DAT file. Choose "Extract but filter M2F2 frames", or smtg like that, and enter a filename with ".mpg" extension. Let the program extract. Now, you can check the file with a software DVD program. Now, open up Nero and create a new SVCD. Drag your .mpg file and let Nero run its check. Then, burn!

2) If you want a faster way, use CDRWIN or Fireburner to burn the straight .bin and .cue files. Load up the 'cuesheet' (.cue) and burn! Also, Nero can burn .bin and .cue files. (BTW - these files are just images files of the original CD)

Hope this helps!


Posted by Peilo on 06-03-2002 03:17 AM:

ok then again close out wizard in nero

In nero go to file----> the in the drop down click on burn image then point to your cue file, hope that helps, I have had more success burning bin and cue with nero then I have in fireburner..


quote:
Originally posted by matt0323
bin/cue


Posted by sfvidal on 06-03-2002 11:51 PM:

Question problem to burn on cds

Hi. I´m new with svcd format. I recently download the three cd´s of episode II (centropy). I used a program called vcdgear to extract the mpeg files from the bin files so i can use a power dvd o microdvd to see the movie. Great Movie. But the mpg files are about 800 MB so i cant burn them to cd´s
Later i tryied to burn the iso files: first i used winiso to convert bin file to iso file. Later i used my burn program to burn the iso files. But that doesnt work either.
With the cd make it i explored with the windows explorer and i can see the video cd extructure with the directories. But i just cant see the movie with my power dvd program or other player.....how can i do that? how can i burn the files so i can delete my mpg files of my hard disk and i can see the movie in my computer with cd´s?
thanks for the help
Santiago.


Posted by spooky pimp on 06-04-2002 03:28 PM:

Heya, spooks here. sfvidal, check out my post above. Just burn the .mpg as an SVCD within Nero. The SVCD format will remove lots of the data error correction that comes on a CD, thus allowing you to burn 800Mb onto an SVCD (since you don't need error correction for a simple .mpg stream). Read my earlier post, and ask if you still have questions

Open Nero > in the wizard select SVCD > enter label, etc, ensure NTSC format is checked > drag the .mpg onto the CD layout > let Nero check the file > burn!


Posted by Skippy_2002ca on 06-05-2002 05:03 AM:

Great Work WINK WINK This is great never knew a friend of Mine COuld Do such a great work on this

__________________
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Originally posted BY kjeks

Where the heck do i get .cue files for this thing?


lol


Posted by walker2000 on 06-11-2002 06:45 AM:

excellent copy, shoulda wait for this one................

two thumps up.......


Posted by sfvidal on 06-11-2002 08:04 PM:

Talking I did it!!! subtitles

Thanks for the advice! I do the burn of the bin files! thanks for the help
just to try i did it by two ways.. burning cd from bin image..and the other way: first extracting the mpeg file from the bin file. Later using the svcd template of nero...
both ways works for me..
Is there any difference? are both ways the same?
Another question: i have the subtitles ...but how i can use it in a svcd version? if i have the mpeg files in my hard disk i can use microdvd with the subtitiles...but if i have the movie in cd´s how can i used the subtitileS? can i burn the subtitles files in the cd´s?
Thanks.


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