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Posted by Uke on 09-03-2007 03:53 AM:

Media Codecs

If you want to watch a wide variety of A/V on your computer, then you'll need a variety of codecs for your media.

There are several flawed options for doing this, which include:

Getting an all-in-one media player such as VLC and sacrificing visual quality
Downloading a complete but often mismatched codec pack
Downloading all the codecs separately but risk missing some

In this subject, I have some recommendations to make:

It's good to have an all-in-one player for the odd times when you want to play obscure media and don't want to bother finding the codec. I would recommend VLC on Windows and MPlayer on Linux or Mac OS X. Install this first, and associate it with all formats, so it will play any media that isn't covered by codecs you install afterward.

Next, it is a good idea to download an all-in-one codec pack. When looking for a codec pack, pick one with not just a wide selection of playable formats but as few individual components as possible. The CCCP is successful, as it uses FFDShow as a base, and adds just the other essential codecs. It also bundles Haali's Media Splitter, which is good for playing files in the popular .mkv format.

Arguably the best player to use in combination with any codec pack (and bundled with CCCP) is Media Player Classic. When used with CCCP, it allows you to enable Haali's Video Renderer in the options, which gives an extremely faithful representation of the video, making it a must for HD content. It also solves the problem of washed out blacks that you get when using overlay rendering with nvidia graphics cards.

You should install these packs second, so it registers the appropriate file extensions for each type of file.

Then, you should install any specific codecs or proprietary players, such as HD-DVD or Blu-Ray decoders, or the DivX Player. It is recommended to only register these extra apps with the bare minimum of file types, so they do not interfere with your current codec configuration. For example, in the DivX bundle setup, untick the 'Generic MPEG-4 Playback' button. It is also a good idea to install the lightweight Quicktime and Real alternatives.

Finally, install any additional players to your preference, such as Winamp or Foobar, registering them only with the file types you would like to use them for.

If you follow this guide, you are ensured a wide coverage of formats and good looking video throughout your A/V experience.

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Posted by Neversoft on 09-03-2007 11:49 AM:

I've personally never had any issues with the visual quality of VLC or MPlayer and I'm outputting them via SVGA to a HDTV so I should notice any fuckups... I'm not saying they're not there, just that I've got no issue with the output and doubt that most people would unless they were watching on some 50" behemoth

(and the fact that MPlayer can adjust audio sync "on the fly" to fix some of the badly encoded shit that gets released makes me want to discharge an enema onto the keyboard)

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Posted by bartleby on 09-03-2007 01:11 PM:

Am i the only person on this website that does'nt get any trouble with codec packs ?

Ive got that k-lite codec pack installed and ive never had any issues with it , so whats so wrong with them ?

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Posted by Neversoft on 09-03-2007 05:53 PM:

Sex offenders use codec packs.

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Posted by bartleby on 09-03-2007 10:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
Sex offenders use codec packs.

So do you use the k-lite one too ?

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Posted by Avenue_1 v3.0b on 09-03-2007 10:47 PM:

Good post Oxley, btw we're not homophobes here

EDIT::: Hmmm you actually might get a bit of bother here as you're only 15 and there is a few pedo's hanging about

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Posted by Mother on 09-04-2007 10:13 AM:

You say getting an all-in-one media player such as VLC is a flawed option, then you say "I would recommend VLC on Windows". I don't like VLC and never have, but that's my personal dislike of the interface and nothing to do with poor visual quality.

I still prefer to separately install only what I need rather than a codec pack, however, I don't think CCCP is likely to fuck up your system.

The old Media Player Classic is no longer being developed, but there are unofficial patched and "home cinema" versions built by others (check Doom9). MPlayer for Windows is also a good option, with a suitable frontend like MPUI or SMPlayer if you're allergic to commandline apps.

I did once have my system screwed up by Quicktime alternative, so I'd never install that again. Older QT files will play with MPC and ffdshow set to decode Sorenson. I avoid all realmedia files. No-one with any sense uses the .divx extension so you will never need the DivX player.

Neither MPC or VLC is much good at navigating around DVDs, so I use PowerDVD for testing backups in software before burning. Version 7 also includes an H264 decoder.

Posted by Uke on 09-08-2007 02:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mother
You say getting an all-in-one media player such as VLC is a flawed option, then you say "I would recommend VLC on Windows". I don't like VLC and never have, but that's my personal dislike of the interface and nothing to do with poor visual quality.

I still prefer to separately install only what I need rather than a codec pack, however, I don't think CCCP is likely to fuck up your system.

The old Media Player Classic is no longer being developed, but there are unofficial patched and "home cinema" versions built by others (check Doom9). MPlayer for Windows is also a good option, with a suitable frontend like MPUI or SMPlayer if you're allergic to commandline apps.

I did once have my system screwed up by Quicktime alternative, so I'd never install that again. Older QT files will play with MPC and ffdshow set to decode Sorenson. I avoid all realmedia files. No-one with any sense uses the .divx extension so you will never need the DivX player.

Neither MPC or VLC is much good at navigating around DVDs, so I use PowerDVD for testing backups in software before burning. Version 7 also includes an H264 decoder.

It's more of a problem with nvidia cards and washed out overlay rendering that steers me away from VLC TBH. I still use it for obscure formats not covered by MPC (It is a modified version that comes with CCCP) but I notice much more contrast and vibrant colour using Haali's renderer.

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Posted by Uke on 09-08-2007 02:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Avenue_1 v3.0b
Good post Oxley

I'm guessing you found out my name by a Whois lookup on my domain, otherwise

Shit I double posted

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 09-08-2007 02:43 PM:

A1 is the Encyclopedia Brown of vcdq.........but.......

.....your name is oxley

hahahahahahaha

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Posted by Uke on 09-08-2007 02:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ZootedLooter
A1 is the Encyclopedia Brown of vcdq.........but.......

.....your name is oxley

hahahahahahaha

Yeah it's a pretty shit surname, I don't like it either.

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Posted by pHo on 09-08-2007 03:00 PM:

I use VLC on OSX and XP/Vista but I agree with the loss of quality. I never really did any SD comparisons, but when I was testing out some 1080i .TS files a few years back, the playback quality in VLC was higher performance (ran smoother) but the output quality wasn't as good as in some of the other players.

But its the lazy mans choice, and I'm nothing if I'm not lazy.

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Posted by Neversoft on 09-08-2007 10:16 PM:

^ He's right, I'm stunned he could be arsed typing that much.

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Posted by Dwaggy on 09-08-2007 11:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Avenue_1 v3.0b
Good post Oxley, btw we're not homophobes here

Stop this internet detective shit

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Posted by Avenue_1 v3.0b on 09-08-2007 11:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dwaggy
Stop this internet detective shit

HAHA he's a m8 dwaggy... Do you want Oxley to send you text jokes about dead famous people?

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 09-09-2007 12:00 AM:

liar....you have no friends

Posted by Munson on 09-09-2007 01:59 AM:

Also you may check out Zoom Player which comes with CCCP. For matroska, i likes it way gooder. The config options are endless and it looks focking phenomenal. I have yet to find a format it doesn't like.

Only problem I have had with mkv and WMP is the subtitles are always on, even after you turn them off.

VLC. Nope. Looks kinda like poo poo compared to Zoom.

Posted by Uke on 09-09-2007 04:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Munson
Also you may check out Zoom Player which comes with CCCP. For matroska, i likes it way gooder. The config options are endless and it looks focking phenomenal. I have yet to find a format it doesn't like.

Only problem I have had with mkv and WMP is the subtitles are always on, even after you turn them off.

VLC. Nope. Looks kinda like poo poo compared to Zoom.

I don't use Zoom because it requires VSFilter to be installed which pisses me off, I much prefer just using MPC's internal subtitles.

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Posted by Dwaggy on 09-10-2007 06:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Avenue_1 v3.0b
HAHA he's a m8 dwaggy... Do you want Oxley to send you text jokes about dead famous people?

o its ur m8 oic soz m8 dnt wry den

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Posted by Avenue_1 v3.0b on 09-10-2007 07:01 PM:

And maybe one day you'll have someone that you can call a m8 an snd txts 2 each othr bout famus ded ppl hehe. Hav a gd 1 an i c u l8er m8

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