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Posted by tone on 11-01-2007 11:54 PM:

encode a HD DVDRIP to play on a standalone dvd ?

can you encode this file to play on any standalone dvd player, if so could you explain how if possible step by step as ive never done anything like this before, the film was downloaded in rars.

many thanx

would really appreciate it.


Posted by Mystic Slippers on 11-02-2007 01:09 AM:

Why would you want to do that?

Just download the SD version and save yourself a universe of hassle.


Posted by bartleby on 11-02-2007 02:54 AM:

I think it can be done but its not worth it , im pretty sure you'd just lower the quality , just download the dvd-r.

Or plug your pc into a hdtv if you want the goodness on a larger screen then your monitor.

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Posted by Jay Are on 11-06-2007 04:13 AM:

i have to do this with "dexter" a showtime series. the first release is always in 720p, so i use winavi to recode it. usually takes 2 passes, but it's flawless when i'm done.

winavi couldn't be simpler to use... i doubt you'll need a walkthrough.

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Posted by bartleby on 11-06-2007 07:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jay Are
i have to do this with "dexter" a showtime series. the first release is always in 720p, so i use winavi to recode it.


But is it still 720p when you've finished ?

I dont think the op has to do it , im pretty sure he wants to watch the movie in hd !

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Posted by Jay Are on 11-06-2007 08:42 AM:

Re: encode a HD DVDRIP to play on a standalone dvd ?

quote:
Originally posted by tone
can you encode this file to play on any standalone dvd player, if so could you explain how if possible step by step as ive never done anything like this before, the film was downloaded in rars.

many thanx

would really appreciate it.



quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Slippers
Why would you want to do that?

Just download the SD version and save yourself a universe of hassle.




i took "stand alone player" to mean standard def. that and the other quote. maybe i was wrong. if so, i would like to offer my pinky as an apology.


and no, its 480i by the time im done with it.

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Posted by LOLobo on 11-06-2007 08:45 AM:

What is that all yo ugot. I' yeah hi. fuck shn.


Posted by Jay Are on 11-06-2007 09:43 AM:

actually, i overlooked this one in my fit of rage. sorry, won't happen again.

edit:: didn't really understand what you said just now, but hey it's a party right.

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Posted by Ad-Man on 11-06-2007 11:03 AM:

Re: encode a HD DVDRIP to play on a standalone dvd ?

quote:
Originally posted by tone
can you encode this file to play on any standalone dvd player, if so could you explain how if possible step by step as ive never done anything like this before, the film was downloaded in rars.

many thanx

would really appreciate it.



You can't keep the high resolution as it's not in the DVD video standards.


Posted by Jay Are on 11-07-2007 03:18 AM:

Re: Re: encode a HD DVDRIP to play on a standalone dvd ?

quote:
Originally posted by Ad-Man
You can't keep the high resolution as it's not in the DVD video standards.



thats your step-by-step?

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Posted by Ad-Man on 11-07-2007 11:19 AM:

ok:
step 1: give up
step 2: download DVDR
step 3: burn with imgburn

p.s. Every other post in this thread must be step by step, as you have not pulled anyone else up on this.


Posted by bartleby on 11-07-2007 05:14 PM:

Re: Re: Re: encode a HD DVDRIP to play on a standalone dvd ?

quote:
Originally posted by Jay Are
thats your step-by-step?


No need giving a step by step on what can not be done.

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Posted by Jay Are on 11-08-2007 04:44 AM:

Re: encode a HD DVDRIP to play on a standalone dvd ?

quote:
Originally posted by tone
can you encode this file to play on any standalone dvd player, if so could you explain how if possible step by step as ive never done anything like this before, the film was downloaded in rars.

many thanx

would really appreciate it.




ok so there appears to be some confusion here as to what exactly you mean by "play on a stand alone dvd player". are you wanting to watch this in hd or std?

you're right.... we all suck at giving step-by-step. mystic slippers prolly solved his problem in the first post anyways. but then again, when someone makes the question as vague as tone's, we should all just make fun of him. u suk tone.

ps - i really enjoyed the step-by-step.

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Posted by Ad-Man on 11-08-2007 02:17 PM:

Show me one post where someone makes fun of him.


Posted by bartleby on 11-08-2007 06:01 PM:

Re: Re: encode a HD DVDRIP to play on a standalone dvd ?

quote:
Originally posted by Ad-Man
Show me one post where someone makes fun of him.


quote:
Originally posted by Jay Are
u suk tone.

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Posted by Ad-Man on 11-08-2007 10:11 PM:

He was implying that others were and he was just following.


Posted by Jay Are on 11-09-2007 02:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ad-Man
He was implying that others were and he was just following.



no, i was making a suggestion and following through with it. calm down meow.

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Posted by yukichigai on 11-12-2007 03:06 PM:

Well, what the hell, why not?

Okay, since the OP hasn't been particularly clear on the what or why, let's assume a few things:

1) The OP wants to convert the HD-DVD rip to Standard Def (480i or 576i)
2) There is a good reason for doing this, e.g. the SD version of Fight Club is 2.35:1 AR and cropped compared to the 16:9 HD version. (It is, by the way)

Given those assumptions and not knowing the specifics of the file formats, here's what you do, basically:

1) Get AviSynth. It's text-based but it makes things WAY easier.

2) Make an appropriate script to load up your files, which will consist of these basic steps:
2a) Loading up each file, and joining multiple files together if necessary. If you have multiple TS files this can make things easier, especially using the "SegmentedDirectShowSource" function, which can automatically load up 100 files at once with one line of code.
2b) Clean up the video, if necessary. This is where you do things like Telecine removal (removing duplicate frames that are part of the encoding method) and noise removal.
2c) Convert the framerate, if necessary. If you have an NTSC source (24 fps) and you're in a country with PAL video (25 fps) you'll have to speed up the video, or slow down for the other way.
2d) Resize the video. There's a minor crop thing you have to do for 1080i/p video, but this is pretty straightforward. For NTSC you resize to 720x480, for PAL 720x576.

3) Load up your avs (avisynth) file into a compatible DVD encoder. TMPGEnc works, as does DIKO and even Nero if you enter the file name manually.


So, basically, it's not a "one-click" process. It takes a little time to do, and a bit of skill too. If you're still interested you can PM me with the specifics of your source files and I can walk you through it. Otherwise, there's a backup plan:

1) Download the DVDr release.

:P


Posted by Jay Are on 11-13-2007 09:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Slippers
Why would you want to do that?

Just download the SD version and save yourself a universe of hassle.




what he said

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Posted by pHo on 11-13-2007 10:27 PM:

Re: Well, what the hell, why not?

quote:

2) There is a good reason for doing this, e.g. the SD version of Fight Club is 2.35:1 AR and cropped compared to the 16:9 HD version. (It is, by the way)[/B]


But the cropping is probably how the director intended it.. it was quite possibly shot open matte so the 'fullscreen' is probably the complete matte, the 16x9 cropped from that, and the OAR cropped from that. But more isn't always better, but I think it's probably preferable when watching fullframe broadcasts because I'd rather gain than lose.

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Posted by yukichigai on 11-23-2007 11:49 PM:

Re: Re: Well, what the hell, why not?

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
But the cropping is probably how the director intended it.. it was quite possibly shot open matte so the 'fullscreen' is probably the complete matte, the 16x9 cropped from that, and the OAR cropped from that. But more isn't always better, but I think it's probably preferable when watching fullframe broadcasts because I'd rather gain than lose.
Yeah, some people care about the format the director intended. Frankly though, I'm with you; it's always more interesting to see what was cut away for whatever reason.


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