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Originally posted by manofice
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Originally posted by Redemption1980
How can you overcrop a SVCD?

Are they sure they're not just comparing it to the FS version, as this film was made in Super35, this looks fine to me from the sample.

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LOL

I opened vcdq when i got home, went to the svcd section .. saw this release and there were no posts nor was the nuke posted on the site. I said to myself, "hmm this is gonna get nuked if it hasn't already, i know it." lol..and here we are. Don't know if it was the FS version cropped, but it does look funny to me. Will hold off until a better release comes out.

Im not sure if this is cropped from the FS version, but as i said, this was filmed in Super35, so the WS version will be a tad cropped at the top and/or bottom when compared to the FS version.

Whether this is the case with this, or VCDCentral are trying to be sneaky, im not really wanting to waste B/W to find out.

On Compair:

Spider-Man.2.FS.SVCD.DVDRiP-Centropy - ctp-sm2fsc.r01
Spiderman.2.WS.DVDRiP.SVCD-VCDCentral - vcdc.s2.sample.mpg

Both VCDCentral's Sample & that rar of Centropys (CD3) are the exact same scenes. This isnt Cropped from Centropys FS Copy as when you compair them when Mary Jane is beside the chair and reaches her hand up you will notice the difference. Off to the right of VCDCentral's there is a 3/4 of a chair and alot of a pillow, where as Centropys you got a small pillow on part of a chair. Which leads me to believe this was WS aspect but not true retail as looking top > bottom wise. Same Scene Compairing Mary Jane's arm and top of her head are cut off in VCDCentrals but not in Centropy's FS Copy ...

If i had to bet , i would put my money on a PDVD Source with a bad crop. Aint no fooling here with a FS DVDRip already out . On Compair VCDCentral is missing some serious picture bottom half of the screen but wider left to right.

Thanks VCDCentral for wasting our time on this when you should have compaired yours to Centropys in the first place as thats what any normal person would have done.

Still waiting on REAL WS RETAiL .

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Ok i need to get this across.
This is the real WS DVD!!

What im about to say, may break the hearts of people who love WS, i know it broke mine when i found out on the T2 SE DVD.

I'll say this again, this film was shot on Super35mm.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316654/technical
Below is a quote from the WS Advocacy site.

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This process does not involve widescreen lenses, but rather it involves framing the picture to fit the ratio of the screen. The top and bottom of the frame are "matted" out and removed from the picture completely, resulting in a rectangular picture.
Super35 movies are filmed using flat lenses. Using an optical printer, the "interpositive" image is then contact-printed to produce an "internegative" anamorphic release print. As a result, an anamorphic image from a Super35 original tends to have a "gritty but sharp" look that is "harder" in a way than an anamorphic image, which has a "smooth" look.

Many movies made in Super35 are transferred to video with the top and bottom of the frame restored, so that you actually see more of the picture on video than you did in the theater. However, scenes which include special effects in them are almost always filmed hard-matted in the appropriate widescreen ratio and therefore must be subjected to the pan-and-scan process.

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Redemption - what an excellent post. Thankyou kindly for this mate - I guess you learn something new every day

OK so it seems that somehow this could well have been taken from the WS retail.

On NFOrce it is nuked for having no IVTC.

But surely if it is encoded to 29.97 fps SVCD then there would be no point going through IVTV (23.976 fps) just to go back through 3:2 pulldown to get it back to 29.976 fps again???

Oh well I thought that after the FS rip anf DVD-R a WS would soon be along - get back to waiting I guess

Mikey

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However, scenes which include special effects in them are almost always filmed hard-matted in the appropriate widescreen ratio and therefore must be subjected to the pan-and-scan process.

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If this was real we would see a release of DVDR WS. They should of included digital camera captures of material if it was real.

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Originally posted by Mercenary13
If this was real we would see a release of DVDR WS. They should of included digital camera captures of material if it was real.

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Redemption - what an excellent post. Thankyou kindly for this mate - I guess you learn something new every day

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this was NUKED: for heads cut off and ripped from FS retail rls..on my sites..I'm waiting still for Centropy to do the PROPER or WS DVDR...Usually Centropy seems to get FS first and WS soon after. Hidalgo and Shrek 2 were both the same way..Either way the movie Rocks..And i'm waiting for a perfect retail dvdr

hey, i have a widescreen telecine copy of spiderman 2 on my computer, if someone can give me a screen shot, ill look for that part in the telecine, and post if its different

That's a damn fine idea Invader... I'm curious to see if Redemption is correct. Man if that shit's true...frowney face.

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Originally posted by vip3r
LOL

I opened vcdq when i got home, went to the svcd section .. saw this release and there were no posts nor was the nuke posted on the site. I said to myself, "hmm this is gonna get nuked if it hasn't already, i know it." lol..and here we are. Don't know if it was the FS version cropped, but it does look funny to me. Will hold off until a better release comes out.

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nah. keep your comments to yourself

kthx bye

ok, i did it, heres the screen from VCDQuality

DVD Rip:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...gs/spdvdrip.jpg


Telecine:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../sptelecine.jpg


well, the DVD Rip looks legit to me, also, just to let you know, my telecine file cuts off a bit of the right side.

there's nothing wrong with using mattes... believe me, the guides they use on the monitors are the final a/r guides. they don't just crop in post, its shot in full frame with the intention of using a 2.35:1 output, so anything out of that frame isn't meant to be seen. hence extra bits popping into copies that show the full matte.

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Originally posted by pHo
there's nothing wrong with using mattes... believe me, the guides they use on the monitors are the final a/r guides. they don't just crop in post, its shot in full frame with the intention of using a 2.35:1 output, so anything out of that frame isn't meant to be seen. hence extra bits popping into copies that show the full matte.

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Originally posted by Redemption1980
Though i would rather it was filmed Anamorphicly for films like this, but there must still be a big market in the US for FS versions.

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Originally posted by Redemption1980
Yeah i agree, anything outside the 2:35:1 frame is not important to the story or the film, so isnt needed.

Though i would rather it was filmed Anamorphicly for films like this, but there must still be a big market in the US for FS versions.

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Originally posted by bcool2k
Ok something about this is driving me nuts being that i review dvdr of legit retails. Anamorphic WS is fairly new to DVD. Aspect Ratio and Anamorphic are NOT the same thing. All Anamorphic truly means is that with a Anamorphic print and compatible tv the image can be stretched without loss of quality to fill the entire screen. ie Anamorph your tv to fill the pic with its original Aspect Ratio without anything being Cut out. This release was a dupe and Nuke. Just wait for a true proper and a REAL Retail DVDR. However, please realize that Anamorphic is a Feature Enhancement Not the Aspect Ratio, and No worries it used to confuse the hell outta me also. End Rant!!

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