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Posted by X69 on 08-01-2002 03:46 AM:

new nfo code

We have a new really nice NFO viewer.. it creates .png images of the nfo's and shows them how they are supposed to look.. I'd like to say thanks to freezy3k for helping me out with this and greets to all the MSR ppl..
Let me know what ya think of the new nfo's.. what can i do to make the site better? let me know! thanks
-X69

Posted by cofferscuffs on 08-01-2002 03:55 AM:

it looks damn sweet

all i can think to do to here now would be to add direct link to nfo on announce bot

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Posted by X69 on 08-01-2002 04:06 AM:

I might do that.. i dunno heh
-X69

Posted by ^Om3n on 08-01-2002 04:13 AM:

Looks really nice x69 ;\

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Posted by Phr3akY on 08-01-2002 05:14 AM:

wow, finally

hm actually i never understood the problem the browsers seem to have displaying the nfo's.. i thought the whole clue is about using the right font (fixedsys?) - why can't you simply set the appropriate font in the source and let the browser display it this way?

i'm pretty sure i saw this on another release site (NFOrce), but only with Opera, not IE..

well, at least your solution is faster than Isonews' java applet
but aren't these big png's causing heavy loads of traffic?

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Posted by PlaiBoi on 08-01-2002 07:55 AM:

The nfo viewer is really good. Now i can actually see what the hell its supposed to be. lol. Good job!

Posted by pHo on 08-01-2002 10:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Phr3akY
hm actually i never understood the problem the browsers seem to have displaying the nfo's.. i thought the whole clue is about using the right font (fixedsys?) - why can't you simply set the appropriate font in the source and let the browser display it this way?

if u want x69 to pull all his hair out in frustration and fury, thats the question to ask

simply put : it doesn't work like that. besides those fonts look crappy, look at the nfos in a proper viewer like ACiD or Eltons etc, and look how much better they look that in Notepad.

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Posted by X69 on 08-01-2002 11:24 AM:

I dont know why it is exactly but nomatter what font you try to use IE will not display anything using the ASCII charset.. maybe i'm missing something but i could never get it to work properly.. So thats the reason for using the png images generated by a script on my site.. and the largest nfo png file i've seen sofar is about 25k.. where as the source nfo file was about 12k.. so its about twice the bandwith useage..
-X69

Posted by RRD on 08-01-2002 12:06 PM:

great job X69!

Posted by kalvaitis007 on 08-04-2002 09:57 PM:

I love the new .nfo setup. Good work....good work indeed.

-K

Posted by vibeop on 08-05-2002 07:44 AM:

To properly view a NFO file, your Font should be set at "Terminal".

Posted by pHo on 08-05-2002 11:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by vibeop
To properly view a NFO file, your Font should be set at "Terminal".

/me holds X69 back from killing videop with a huge knife cos he doesn't read

and no, terminal font is shitty anyway. compare terminal to a proper nfo viewer and u'll see how crap it is.

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Posted by ^Om3n on 08-05-2002 01:22 PM:

Lucida Console ANSI, but it cant be used on website i don't think because it's not a standard windows font.

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Posted by vibeop on 08-05-2002 01:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo

/me holds X69 back from killing videop with a huge knife cos he doesn't read

and no, terminal font is shitty anyway. compare terminal to a proper nfo viewer and u'll see how crap it is.

I don't remember saying it looked better. Before the advent of "NFO Viewers", NFO's were made using the Terminal Font and were viewed using the Terminal Font. ASCII art has been around a lot longer than the so called NFO Viewers, and in my mind Terminal is the proper way of viewing them.

Perhaps being an "Admin" you should really do some research on the history of the scene.

Posted by pHo on 08-05-2002 04:03 PM:

how bout you do some fuckin research yerself then? you think ascii art was designed to be viewed in terminal ? fuckin retard. ASCII art has been around since before Windows itself, and from other systems, and the original NFOs for the current "scene" were designed in programs like TheDraw, ACiDDRAW etc, and were viewed using a compatable viewer (such as ACiDVIEW, ICEVIEW or even EDIT.COM ) or simply by using TYPE on the CLI in conjunction with ANSI.SYS

now instead of criticising, not reading the thread properly and talkin completely out of your arse, why dont you either write the magical code that will force all browsers to use a proper charset , which will still look worse than the current system, or just fuck off back to wherever you came from. Dont like the site : dont fuckin use it.

oh no wait, your right.. the admin knows shit.. the scene was born when Win3.1 was the OS of choice for all warez and all the groups like THG and Razor1911 purely designed all their NFOs around the Terminal font. and yes, i now realise that instead of multicoloured ANSI blocks displayed in the old bbs ads, they were SUPPOSED to look like vomit that Terminal pukes out, because it doesnt support half the functions. My how i've learnt my lesson. I think i'll scrap all my ansi/ascii standard viewing and creation tools and do everything in notepad now. ah yes, the way it doesn't even bother saving with a fixed 80 width and fucks everything up .. beautiful.

if you want to try and show someone up, at least talk some fuckin sense. oh, and research is for people who werent there.

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Posted by vibeop on 08-06-2002 02:49 AM:

Hmmm...ok..so let me get this straight.

A program coded and developed in 1997 (Aciddraw) was used pre 1986 to design ASCII art...

I really can't believe an Admin would be so lame as to try to be something he is not. I think I have had enough of this little chat. Its painfully obvious you really know nothing about the subject.

Posted by ww-Boot on 08-06-2002 06:09 AM:

best add i seen you best yet Pho !
HAHAHA

Posted by vibeop on 08-06-2002 09:34 AM:

Hmmm...you deleted my last post...guess in all fairness I shouldn't have proven you wrong, you being an Admin and all.

I know you will delete this post also, but thats fine...it's between you and me Dude.

Here is a quote you made.

"and research is for people who werent there"

Uhmmm...you were born in 1981 Dude !!! Hehe...

Like I said in the post you deleted...don't try to be something you are not.

23 years old and he was "there"...pretty lame

Posted by pHo on 08-06-2002 12:12 PM:

so you can't understand a moderation queue (its set up quite simply, even the lamers can read the message that flashes up at the end of every post) and you try to outsmart me? hello dipshit , i didn't delete any post, look above. why should i delete stuff that makes you look stupid?

and you think aciddraw was made in 1997? jeezus christ...
"51K 12-03-1994 ACiD DRAW v0.5a Ansi Screen Editor" and thats when i started using it, before hand i used other tools. nice research there tho, can't even find a date for a widely used program thats available on countless websites. as i stated, but hey you can't read so its no surprise you totally ignored it, the ascii standard was used on many systems as well as PC, i was just using modern-scene tools which i still happen to use. but no, you continue using Terminal in Notepad, i'm sure you'll be very happy together.

and hey, its not my fault it took you 20+ years to learn how to use a mouse, doesn't mean we all are. im 20, so what? i actually knew more about these things when i was 8 years younger, but things change and i went to follow different directions. and i'm not talkin bout some ascii scene i dont really care about (and you have no idea about) because NFO doesn't follow strict ASCII code, as it follows the newschool standards which diverse out of standard typeface, but no, you're older so you must know better. by the way, i've owned, built and operated PC systems for the last 12 years, from 8086 class machines upwards, so i "was there" in the time period that i'm referring to, and from 1986 i was using BBC ModelB, Sinclair, Amstrad and Atari systems, so im not some GUI whore that doesn't know how to handle a simple command line.

"Uhmmm...you were born in 1981 Dude !!! Hehe..." "23 years old and he was "there"...pretty lame" actually, your maths is pretty lame, honestly, when i was 5 i could do a simple sum like "2002-1981 = 21 (or 20 as i happen to be)" . maybe you're just superior and a decimal system is just too easy for you.. how bout we take it to binary instead? im 00010100 years old, that better?

i have no problem with being proven wrong, it's all part of the learning experience, but when someone tries to dig at me when they clearly dont know shit (and can't count) then you're just leaving yourself open for attack.

actually, i'm glad u posted, because i realised there was a flaw on the forum permissions for the News module, and only registered users should be able to post. you didn't reply to your email (electronic mail, in case you need it explaining) which we so kindly sent, so you're not actually registered. thanks for clearing that up. so, no, i haven't deleted your username because im so jealous of your age old experience Mr Babbage, but rules are rules im afraid.

(oh by the way, the PC ascii "art scene" was started by Tinyz in March 1994 in the group Katharsis!Ascii as they moved away from the Amiga and Commodore64 scene. so stuff your research.)

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Posted by ^Om3n on 08-06-2002 01:04 PM:

Haha, priceless

/me still has an old atari

11 1 1110 11001 1111 10101 10011 101 101 1101 101 ?
(lol, ok so im bored)

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Posted by kalvaitis007 on 08-06-2002 04:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ^Om3n
/me still has an old atari

And I was gonna point out that I used to run a (well, a bunch of different ones during a 3 year period) BBS on a Commodore 64 (and a VIC and a 128 and a 64C, I'm old, people!) and it had a built in ANSI editor to make screens very similar to .nfo's. I always assumed that's where the practice originated. I think pHo alluded to this.

Anyway, we didn't have Windows back then. We DID have GEO World (eventually), but it sucked and nobody used it. What's it all mean? Who knows....

-K

Posted by vibeop1 on 08-06-2002 10:05 PM:

This is very VERY disturbing. This is the 3rd time I have found someone using my nick on various boards.
I would just like to clear the air and assure anyone who is wondering that the Original "Vibeop" on this board IS NOT Rob from Xpertgamers Servers. Anyone who knows me knows that I DO NOT POST ON ANY BOARDS. Not IsoNews, not here, NOT ANYWHERE.

Xpertgamers and its servers are dedicated to the scene and we do not flame, abuse or post nonsense about any PERSON, GROUP or RELEASE in the scene.

It would be greatly appreciated if the Moderators of this board would kindly delete all posts by this FRAUD in order to not confuse people about the true origins of these posts.

Posted by creepah on 08-09-2002 04:27 AM:

well ok .. the nfo viewer is nice.. but one thing from nfo artist to admin :-) would you be so kind to change the colors ? as you have said and i could confirm.. the asciis were done in aciddraw or thedraw good old dos progs :-)) and they were done on black background and white forground .. to pls invert it :-)) 2nd terminal font is fine.. but somehow it fucks the art up since it sometimes dont support the half blocks, its a problem on win2k and xp systems.. on older versions of windows just delete your codepage and everything will look asskicking.. for those 2k and xp crowd.. go and grab that damn nfoview.. its delivers a font called infoview which works perfectly.. else drop by www.thuglife.org and get ice/acid/blood view for best results... and even in the most artpacks brings little tiny and good ascii viewers with it (ok dunno about the others .. OUR does :-))

so long

creepah

Posted by Phr3akY on 08-09-2002 06:08 AM:

@ pHo:

quote:
(its set up quite simply, even the lamers can read the message that flashes up at the end of every post)

hm, actually most of them can't

because this message pops up for maybe one second before it redirects you, i had to try several times to copy'n'paste it..
hm maybe you could do something about this?

but i don't understand this system anyway.. what is it for? do you read through every one of the 10 first posts of every new user and give your OK to every single one?

Posted by ^Om3n on 08-09-2002 08:23 AM:

Yes they do. There are a lot of people that sign up just so they can post asking where to get something, which is against the forums rules. If there was no moderation of first X posts then all these requests would come through and the boards would get flooded by them. This also raises legal issues, if the site is seen letting people ask where to get something, it could/would be assumed that people respond to them. Either through pm or public posting on the boards. This is a problem because it could be some time before the offending request/reply posts are noticed and removed from the board. B setting stict rules of no requesting and enforcing them through moderation so they dont even make it to the boards, those that request never see there posts up and effectively stop requesting. And hense since there is no requests, there is very little chance of somebody else slipping up and posting information that may cause legal issues for the site.

Even one posting of a specific newsgroup, ftp, irc channel, website, etc in which illegal meterials and the such can be obtained could result in the site being shut down.

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