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Posted by petrocs on 05-09-2003 01:05 AM:

Review: Sense Field- Living Outside

For those unfamiliar with Sense Field they are what EMO should bow down to. Bands like Dashboard Confessional cant come close to the passion and heart of Sense Field.On with the review..

Sense Field last graced us with an album was in 2001 with their second major label album "Tonight and Forever" (first was the 1996 Building LP). That album had songs that were featured on Dawsons Creek, Smallville and a couple others so you might recognize the name.

2003 has brought us the most mature album of Sense Field's 10 year + career. The album is set for release on July 22nd in the US and is likely to make a big splash if its given the right amount of airplay. Jon Bunch, lead vocalist, has written the most beautiful songs over the past 10 years and this album is no different. Songs like the opening song "Burn" set the tone for the album. A song which starts encaptures the essence of Sense Field..emo with a soul not just a tissue box. Quickly followed by one of my favorite songs on this album "Running Behind". One of the best surprises of this album comes at the tenth track where we find Sense Field's beautifully done cover of The Cure's "A Letter to Elise" which is a true surprise and a welcome one at that. This is one album that I'd say if you like good vocals, great melody and a love for music you should pick this one up

Rating 4 out of 5

Stand Out Tracks:

Burn
Running Behind
A Letter to Elise
Haunted

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Posted by krazyfoo on 05-09-2003 04:37 AM:

i saw Chris from dash ... years before he was in dash... i think he was in Five Flew Over.. or hrm... i think thats right anyhow... when he first played as Dashboard Confessionals.. i witnissed some of the finest guys in hardcore.... stand still and listen and make contact w/ their inner puss... ( i mean... as an opener at a 4 band show... w/ the likes of Strike Anywhere... he had a tough crowd).. but we all took it for what it was and respected what he was doing.

fast forward to 2 or 3 years later.. and everyone listening to EMO... and there all EMO-tastic.. and emo-rifficly fagdacious

the scene around me has been torn to pieces by an increasingly solid influx of em0-tards.. its been a self-fullfilling prophecy.... the words first originated as kids were callin it emotional music.. but i repeat it was NEVER mentioned as a genre of music.. only within the last few years has it become whats its been talked up to be..


now uve got decent bands like Saves The Day... and TGUK.. turning uber-pussy ... i cant stand it... and as for Chris of Dash.... ever since i saw him on MTV w/ a bunch of fuck-tard county suburban kiddies singin along ive decided he has no WANG.

his old shit has merit... but now that its been branded EMO i cant be seen listenin to it or i may pee myself in shame.

why must there be these genres? music is music ... and EMO is talked about as if a band sets out to BE EMO.. that is rediculous.. and sadly no one seems to stop and think about it... they just listen and cry

ok im a lil biased.. but ive watched a legitimate international punk/hardcore scene.. get reduced to rubble as kids decked out in emo gear start comin to shows.. not dancing.. just sittin like girls

pho back em up !

oh no we wont go.. down w/ emo

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Posted by petrocs on 05-09-2003 05:35 AM:

Krazy..I am totally with you man..I've been into the hardcore/punk scene since the mid 80's. (yes I am 28)

I have a soft spot in my heart for bands like Sense Field, Texas is the Reason, Gameface (yeah they're more punk but hey) etc for being music that stands on its own..in its own "genre" I wasnt catagorizing Sense Field as emo..I was saying that emo bands WISH they had that much emotion and passion in their songs.

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Posted by krazyfoo on 05-09-2003 03:59 PM:

yea petrocs.... no worries .... ill be honest i havent listened to any of Sense Field... and i plan on tryin them out

i just feel a certain duty to rant when emo is brought up

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Posted by pHo on 05-09-2003 04:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by krazyfoo
pho back em up !


heh too busy spending my time fighting against the skinny sxe kids who hate me these days at least the emo kids just sit in the corner and cry rather than bring on some fake tuffness ( i should do some research and prove its all because they were beaten up at school)

funny how most sxe kids turn sxe in groups isn't it? so much for the personal beliefs!

anyway, im ranting off topic. sensefield are cool, not heard the new one.

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Posted by krazyfoo on 05-09-2003 04:20 PM:

straight-edge.... fucks



HUGS NOT DRUGS?... yea right...

how about HUGS AND DRUGS.
stupid fucks

the 2 guys that live below me... are sxe... and they can smell the ganja seaping throught the floor boards.. but they have yet to complain. they have a lil sxe hxc band comin together.. and ive been told the main guy... 'joe'... loves to fight .. (and his gf is REALLY hot .. like wtf.. damn sxe fuck ).. .anyhoo... im waitin for the day they rub me the wrong way

as its a common misconception that st0ners cant fight

/me looks at his hate-o-four background... and cracks his knuckles.

and yea.. i guess the emo kids are like... the reject sxe kids... they couldtn pull off the 'im pissed off 24/7 look'.. so they settle for the easier 'im a puss 24/7 look'

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Posted by petrocs on 05-09-2003 10:45 PM:

I say we kick the shit out of all the sXe kids, feed meat to vegans and make emo kids...well....cry

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Posted by krazyfoo on 05-10-2003 06:34 PM:

/me sounds the battle cry

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Posted by petrocs on 05-10-2003 10:46 PM:

/me puts on the war paint

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Posted by BoboBaggins on 05-11-2003 03:29 AM:

hmmm irrational hatred of a certain group(sXe) makes you

FUCKING STUPID!

its people like you that still keep the scene down

grow up! most people have evolved to the point that stoner, sXe, girl, guy, gay, whatever doesnt mean shit, when your in the pit


Posted by pHo on 05-11-2003 03:47 AM:

you have no idea about different local scenes and groups and cliques, so don't criticise what you don't understand. i have no problem with sxe kids, i have problem with our local sxe kids (and not all of them, altho its just become a trend thing really). big difference.

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Posted by petrocs on 05-11-2003 03:52 AM:

yeah..dont talk about what you dont know Baggins...the sXe kids around me are fuckin pricks who think they rule the world and I hate that (I dont hate em all..just the ones I know are pricks)
Now I do know a few cool ones and they would say the sme thing I said..

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Posted by BoboBaggins on 05-11-2003 04:00 AM:

quote:
I say we kick the shit out of all the sXe kids


I rest my case.


hahaha

sure now your all backing up on your bullshit


Posted by petrocs on 05-11-2003 04:11 AM:

nope..I dont back down from anything..I was talking about my area..not yours pal..

this was suppose to be a thread about a review of a great album..

and you wanna talk about the "scene"..man I've been in the scene probably before you even knew the words punk or hardcore were so as an elder statemen I will say what I want about the people in it. The new school kids in the scene are for the most part annoying. They have absolutely no idea what its all about..they just become punk or become hardcore or become sXe just because. sXe kids are very preachy for my taste and I dont like that. Do what you want but dont bring it into my world and call me an asshole for doing my thing. Now I see you are from NY so you SHOULD know the underground hardcore scene there is exactly that..hardcore..i respect those guys for believing and doing what they do but frankly..I highly doubt they have anything in common with your everyday suburban sXe kids who are cause someone told em too. In closing you came at 3 punk guys who I would stand by..pHo and krazy are true and they know their shit and of course I stand by myself who's been and seen it all in the "scene." And thats a fact..Now I have gotten to the point (and have in the early 90s) when punk/hardcore scene was becoming too trendy for me and I go further underground and I guess you could call it "getting a scene ego" but that still doesnt give you the right to come at me or these guys and preach to me about acceptance or saying Hating a group is fucking stupid..son I've been hated by many and loved by many and guess what..the people that hate can wish me dead all they want so anyone saying kill a group of beat up kids in a group are funnin around..so..go drink some Rice Dream...grab a meat free Big Mac..turn on some 108 or Snapcase and relax

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Posted by napalmfuzz on 05-11-2003 04:39 AM:

hating a group of people is stupid? everybody hates one specific group or another.. even if you are one of these pussy dark plastic glasses wearing pieces of shit..
me? ive shown the straight edgers and the emo fags FAR too much patience.. i didnt start shit when i was told that im an idiot for doing drugs.... i didnt start shit when some dumbass told me that Meshuggah was a NU-metal band... but i will goddamn start some shit when people start telling me that im not allowed to hate anymore.. straight edgers... are straight edge for 2 reasons.. 1. theyre fucking scared little bitches who cant hold their shit... and 2. they see something a group of people that theyd like to be involved with are doing and start copying the image... i mean.. what the fuck people.. when the fuck did it become cool to listen to whiny ass music that represents the exact fucking opposite of talent... sparta anyone?
when did it become cool to not eat meat... eat a fuckin cheeseburger you mal-nourished douche bag... i know some bitch... and i swear to fuck.. i dont know how shes alive... shes a fucking vegetarian who doesnt eat vegetables... just cuase its cool now to be a vegetarian.. what the fuck.. bitch eats bread... i mean.. does it matter to these assholes that goddamn much what the people that they so desire the affection from.. think of them... goddamn.. think for yourself motherfuckers..

i think this whole emo trend.. is tired.. weak.. and needs to be brought to an end.. by any means necessary

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Posted by BoboBaggins on 05-11-2003 09:00 AM:

petrocs, you started off with some very general bullshit aimed at a certain group, and yes thats fucking stupid

later you changed it to "your area" whatever that means, and people I dont know, so I couldnt possiblely have anything to say about them...funny how you seem to be able to do just that..

I'm not agrueing for or against emo/sXe or anyother labeled group

I'm saying when your keep yourself so far up your own ass like napalmfuzz your fucking stupid.


over n out.

ps. I think boards bring out the persectution complex in everyone


Posted by napalmfuzz on 05-11-2003 10:17 AM:

you come on here... make a statement that the people that took part in this thread were "stupid" as you put it.. yet you come with no reasoning to back your statements up....

so to hate people is stupid? are you a dirty fuckin hippy? hates what makes the world go round kid.. either live it.. or get ran over by it.

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Posted by BoboBaggins on 05-11-2003 12:37 PM:

I hate the specific stupid things that individuals may do.


Posted by petrocs on 05-11-2003 04:06 PM:

see what you started Krazy!

now I gotta kill someone..Baggins..consider yourself added to that hate list.

and you're right in one aspect..since I didnt make myself clear enough for you and I generalized... we'll keep it to all just so their's no confusion...no exceptions..kill em all!

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Posted by darkslide on 05-11-2003 04:24 PM:

love and understanding are women's feelings, so all you straight edge losers who think it's cool to abstain from the sweet thang need to stop pushing your views onto other people. just because you made a choice in your life; albeit a wrong one; to not fuck, or suck, or lick, or whatever the fuck you think sex is... doesn't mean your choices are correct for everyone... me on the other hand believe freedom is the choice of life.... freedom and hate rule the world... NOW BELIEVE WHAT I SAY OR I WILL EAT YOUR TOAST

-new punk sucks... all of it... it's gone from being the antichrist... to being someone who wants you to forgive him for breaking up with you.... THAT IS NOT PUNK... if you think punk is that mainstream Blink 182, Sum 41, New Found Glory, or any of that garbage... you need to stop living. Only thing that i head today that is somewhat mainstream punk is Liam Lynch... he is good.. get his album "Fake Songs" it's good. a little on the softer side lyric wise... but good non-the-less

-yes.. now that i said that... i hate you people....

by the way, i didn't read too many of the posts before this... my brain was numbing so i had to spurt out an opinion...

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Posted by pHo on 05-11-2003 04:37 PM:

quote:
-new punk sucks... all of it... it's gone from being the antichrist... to being someone who wants you to forgive him for breaking up with you.... THAT IS NOT PUNK... if you think punk is that mainstream Blink 182, Sum 41, New Found Glory, or any of that garbage... you need to stop living. Only thing that i head today that is somewhat mainstream punk is Liam Lynch... he is good.. get his album "Fake Songs" it's good. a little on the softer side lyric wise... but good non-the-less


i disagree. whenever someone says "new punk sucks." they always list bands like Blink, Sum41 etc. whoever said they were punk?! nobody! theres some awesome bands out there... Against Me, Strike Anywhere, Hot Water Music to name but three. anything on No Idea records is guaranteed to destroy these pop bands preconceptions that they were anything but MTV poster boys.

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Posted by CcZ on 05-11-2003 04:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by darkslide
-new punk sucks... all of it... it's gone from being the antichrist... to being someone who wants you to forgive him for breaking up with you.... THAT IS NOT PUNK... if you think punk is that mainstream Blink 182, Sum 41, New Found Glory, or any of that garbage... you need to stop living. Only thing that i head today that is somewhat mainstream punk is Liam Lynch... he is good.. get his album "Fake Songs" it's good. a little on the softer side lyric wise... but good non-the-less.

Agreed with pHo. Good Charlotte, Box Car Racer/Blink 182, Sum 41, New Found Glory...they aren't punk. They are "wannabe" punks. Good Charlotte grew up in the same place where I live-Friendship Heights. Their old stuff was ok. Then one of the members joined Wakefield (who are a pretty decent punk band, cd came out tuesday) and the band hit it big with "Little Things" but they still wnted to be considered punk so Beni or whatever the fucker's name is got his tattoos, spiked hair, long baggy pants with chains, etc...just to look "punk." A week ago I saw them in a Mexican restaurant in sweatshirts, looking non-punkish, and the spiked hair wasn't even up. FAKE. They aren't punk. The popular bands that try to look punkish and suck will never be PUNK. Rancid/NOFX/The Ataris/The YYY's/Interpol/AFI's old stuff/the bands pHo mentioned...well...that's true punk.


Posted by darkslide on 05-11-2003 11:38 PM:

no, you both are wrong. true punk is always punk, but the wannabe punk is the NEW PUNK, and it is categorized as punk, no matter if you think it is... it IS punk in the now... but i agree... it is not TRUE PUNK... it's wannabe garbage...

you only have to be in the category to be something... you don't actually have to BE it

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Posted by napalmfuzz on 05-11-2003 11:55 PM:

rancid's more ska now than punk... and the ataris are pop rock... NOFX's past few albums have been utter tripe and AFI's allways sucked shit

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Posted by petrocs on 05-12-2003 12:41 AM:

This thread has now officially tied all the posts from all the other threads in the non review section combined..."24"

Just thought I'd point that out..now on with the debate..oh and CczuAzul...next time you see those guys from Good Charlotte please punch them really hard for me

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Posted by BoboBaggins on 05-12-2003 10:18 AM:

sooo I've been added to your hate list becuase I was right? bahahahah

Its very surpriseing how many people on this board are perfectly willing to arbitrarily label and then hate some general group of people. I know that if someone tried to call some of you "nerds" or "males" and placed generalized negative sterotypes on you, you would be really pissed.

It is also quite amazing how some people are able to distort the content of a thread as if it was a personal strike against thier very soul, and then feel the need to attack like a wounded dog. Just the very mention of 'sXe' has produced the "you cant tell me what to do man" speechs. No one ever said you couldnt do anything on here! who are you argueing with! hahah


Posted by darkslide on 05-13-2003 02:28 AM:

baggins shut up you're gay... if you didn't go preaching your sXe bullshit you wouldn't be hearing people complaining about you telling them what to do.

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