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1 NO REQUESTING MOVIES OR SAMPLES (THIS INCLUDES REQUESTS FOR OTHER GROUPS TO RELEASE THIS MOVIE!)

2 DO NOT DISCUSS WHERE TO DOWNLOAD MOVIES OR SAMPLES

3 DO NOT ASK FOR "RAR PASSWORDS" COS WE DON'T KNOW THEM. CHECK WITH YOUR SOURCE

4 NO FLAMING

5 NO "SPOILERS"

6 NO SCENE-RELATED DISCUSSION/RUMORS (ESPECIALLY REGARDING BUSTS)

7 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE ONLY (AND ONLY IF YOU'VE SEEN AT LEAST THE SAMPLE). THIS IS THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THE THREAD!

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* Newbie questions? General questions unrelated to this release? Internet LOL's? Right here dudes


*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE RULES WILL BE BANNED ***

Wonder why they didnt just crop out the black bars. Still looks / sounds great.

8/8/?

i hate when new grps try and rls a good movie...this has been nuked for bad.cropping and for those of u that dont know what that means, it means that they didnt take out the black bars....from sample though and a couple random rars


v-6(cuz of the bad.cropping)
a-8
m-? still dont know, no time to watch it yet

Well breezed thru this video , and found it to be quite nice , if it wasnt for the previously mentioned cropping it be a 9.0 easy.

8.0/8.5/?

People are so quick to want to nuke these days. What's next, a nuke because the nfo isn't fancy enough? I cropped out the black bars myself, you can too. Or, you could just find your own DVDSCR and release it so we can all tell you how bad it is.

Thanks for the release MeekRaB, good work.

9/9/7

video looks fine to me from the sample, but i dont have an hd moniter. is that what makes the difference?

When you say black bars are you referring to the black bars on the top and bottom of a picture when you're watching a widescreen release on a regular screen?

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Originally posted by vdogg
People are so quick to want to nuke these days. What's next, a nuke because the nfo isn't fancy enough? I cropped out the black bars myself, you can too. Or, you could just find your own DVDSCR and release it so we can all tell you how bad it is.

Thanks for the release MeekRaB, good work.

9/9/7

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Why are people so ungrateful

Thank you for such a great movie.



8.0/8.0/8.0

@kevlar

No, not my group.

Seems some are just stuck in the anal stage is all.

Also, the rules for XViD are TDX 2002 Releasing Standards (tdx2k2) not tdk2k as you stated. If you look at the bottom of the rules, this group is not in the approving list so, I guess they don't really have to follow them.

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Originally posted by vdogg

Also, the rules for XViD are TDX 2002 Releasing Standards (tdx2k2) not tdk2k as you stated.

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Cropping is required to be the MAXIMUM possible (black borders must be cropped to their maximum). Over cropped releases are considered a technical flaw. Some movies present changing ARs, in that case the cropping applies only to the image that presents more pixels (Means that part of the movie will have bad cropping).

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The latest TDX revision is TDX2005, but there's rebuttal against this revision, proving it to be flawed in several aspects.

The TDX2002, is the most recent widely accepted version.

syriana

great rls i give it n 8.5 video 8.5 sound 9.o for movie

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Originally posted by vdogg
The latest TDX revision is TDX2005, but there's rebuttal against this revision, proving it to be flawed in several aspects.

The TDX2002, is the most recent widely accepted version.

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i don't know what you guys do with these, but when you convert to dvd it going to add the "black bars" anyways because you can only burn 16x9 or 4x3 (ntsc, don't know about pal).

10-10-9.5

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Originally posted by vdogg
The latest TDX revision is TDX2005, but there's rebuttal against this revision, proving it to be flawed in several aspects.

The TDX2002, is the most recent widely accepted version.

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Originally posted by vdogg
People are so quick to want to nuke these days. What's next, a nuke because the nfo isn't fancy enough? I cropped out the black bars myself, you can too. Or, you could just find your own DVDSCR and release it so we can all tell you how bad it is.

Thanks for the release MeekRaB, good work.

9/9/7

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I've watched the whole thing. Whatever cropping etc. Great quality video and audio and a good film. Considering the number of releases nowadays, this kind of criticism isn't at all constructive. Here we have a very good copy of a popular current film only a couple of weeks after its theatrical release. Feel free to provide us with better, only make it something else since I've already seen Syriana

Good work MeeKRaB

9/9/7

Happy to see this released; been waiting for a watchable version. Bars are a minor annoyance at most.

7/8/8

not a bad release for a dvd scr. the cropping issues are not a big deal to me, since it is not that hard to correct.

video is great quality, no noticeable skips or framerate issues. as with most screeners, there is the nag text ("screening purposes only, etc.") that appears for about 45 sec 3 or 4 times throughout the movie.

no audio sync issues.

a lot of scenes the dialogue are in arabic, farsi language and unless you are fluent in, you may have a better time understanding this film if you take out the cropping and watch in fullscreen, as there are subtitles for a good portion throughout the film that are a bit small when watching in original size.

8.5/9/8

8.5/8.5/8.5
Love the fact that a decent copy of this movie has finally surfaced.
Quality video and sound and the movies great...
Thanks MeekRab

Resized myself and it looks good.I went and seen this movie it is great a must see.

Vid--8
Aud-8
Mov-9

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Originally posted by Somnus
Now this is going to sound stupid, but I never cropped the bars out before. What do you use to do that? I just always accepted they were there LOL

Like I said.. stupid question.

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Not sure what everyones bitching about, the XBMC played it on my 16X9 flawlessly.

8/8/5- movie was boring as hell.

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v.8¼--sizing issue
a.9
m.9
great job besides the bar issue, but an easy fix none the less. GREAT movie, makes you think bout what the cia is really up to.

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Nice Post MeekRaB, keep up the good work! Picture and sound are Fantastic!

video 9
sound 9
movie ? (10% watched)

Thanx 4 the great copy.... Cheers!

v8
a8
film looked good ,couldnt get into it due to mother coming round ,but what i made out it was around a 8

Just to add some clarification on the "Black Bars"
The Black Bars are always present when watching widescreen content on 4:3 Display Units. They will be above and below the screen. Providing the picture isn't zoomed or stretched.

They will be on 4:3 content on widescreen Units, providing no zooming or streching. here they will be to the left and right of the image.

Getting rid of these bars is not the real issue, as some of us prefer watching movies in their OAR (orginal aspect ratio).

In the encoding process however, some rules hold true. Those black bars must be cropped. The cropping does not get rid of the bars or alter the ratio of the movie. It removes the very sharp line between the actual pictures and the black bars. This is what we are concerned about - the sharp line. For enconding, the sharper the image, the more detail visible, the harder the encoding app has to work to make the image look good.

Bitrate is almost always never enough, wasting precious bits just to maintain the "sharp line" is simply as waste. Improving overall image quality is the purpose of this rule.

Some of these rules are not explained. But they make good sense. If it were not for these rules, standalone video players may not have been so popular, bringing about devices that play divx/xvid for all of us. Some of these devices are budget units that have weak processors and do poorly when the resolution is increased. Which may need to be done to keep the "black bars", otherwise the overall resolution will be reduced to keep it compatible and yes - a reduction in image quality.

Having these rules bring about a standard that assist the "scene" to regulate the quality, this in turn will allow digital distribution to dominate over disc based distribution as the legal method to obtain movies in the upcoming years.

So noone else saw any blockiness with this release? So why would I be? Also it plays too fast on my DVD player. And seeing as how I have the Philips 642 (the most popular DVD player of them all LOL), its odd that no ones complained about that either. Is it possible my DL of it is corrupted eventhough it passed par2 and WinRAR's crc32 test?

Edit: Well, it was apparently the avi being joined that screwed up the release. I still have the original separate avis and there's no blockiness when I play them. so forget this topic I guess.

Apparently since the Video data rates of the avis are different (the other stats are identical though), they're not compatible for joining. And I'm not reencoding just get rid of the pause in between, I'll just have to live with it.


NUKED: AVI'S have different video data rates.