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Posted by X69 on 09-20-2007 12:12 AM:


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Posted by vcdslut on 09-20-2007 12:19 AM:

FINALLY.

the PUKKA original rls was quite good for a ts but this is sharper and more watchable overall. prolly best we gonna see b4 an r5 which could be months away still

saw some ppl commenting about crop but ppl are stupid looks fine to me

V:7
A:8
M:7.5 surprisingly not completely shit


Posted by TheGRiM on 09-20-2007 12:34 AM:

Seems to be a lower quality TC or a good TS.

v: 7/8
a:7


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Posted by Bisky on 09-20-2007 12:34 AM:

Video is really good, looks like R5 to me. I think the audio is CAM audio as its very echoy and sometimes crackles.

also I think its out of sync slightly.

V - 8
A - 6
M - ?


Posted by Vampire on 09-20-2007 02:12 AM:

Video is OK, not brilliant for a TC. The audio isn't good - as mentioned, it sounds quite hollow (still clear though) so I'm not sure if this is just a bad job or they're lying about the source.

Based on sample...

Video: 7
Audio: 6
Movie: ? (yet to watch)


Posted by shadowsniper on 09-20-2007 02:48 AM:

I'd given up waiting for a better copy so ended up watching the PUKKA TS the other day & now this turns up! lol

Only had a chance for a quick skim through...

v-7.
Definitely not R5 as someone mentioned, either a good TS or slightly substandard TC. Still, nice colours, quite sharp & clear.

a-6.
A bit empty & crackly in places. On quick skim through, sync seems OK.

m-8.
Really enjoyed this flick, good work Pixar!

DVD is due out beginning of November i think, so until that or R5, this is your best bet.


Posted by CATBOX on 09-20-2007 03:12 AM:

Video isn't good for a Telecine. Not clear at all, and very dark. Many of the dark scenes are blocky and unfocused. Audio is low and hollow. Many imperfections. The credits look like the "oil painting" release of the Ant Bully. (if you remember that old release)

The best out right now, but not an R5 as some are claiming, and possibly not even a TC. I've certainly seen better TS than this, so who knows.

V - 5 (as a TC)
A - 5
M - 5 It stunk like old cheese

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Posted by lorddusty on 09-20-2007 05:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by vcdslut

saw some ppl commenting about crop but ppl are stupid looks fine to me



The reason they're commenting on a crop is that the film is supposed to be scope with an AR of 2.35:1, and just like with their harry potter "telecine" MVS has managed to crop out almost 1/4 of the image.

Slight blur and poor audio.

6/4/8


Posted by neptunesblood on 09-20-2007 06:45 AM:

Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


Posted by Iammyself on 09-20-2007 07:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by neptunesblood
Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


ummm.... WHAT? video is what distinguishes between cam and direct copy (TC)... do you realise what you even typed?

this looks poor as a tc from the 1st 5 minutes, some TS's are far superior

The audio is fine enough

as a TC (tele 'CINE')

6/8/?


Posted by LOLobo on 09-20-2007 07:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by neptunesblood
Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


Quoted for entertainment.


Posted by wrist on 09-20-2007 08:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by neptunesblood
Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


That comment is as good as the Telecine video on this release from mVs.

Pic- rated as telecine 6ish - Seen way way better
Sound - 7ish - Not to bad in current climate. Bit of hum and a crackle and pop occasionally
Flik - 6ish - Not bad at all

Probably a Telesync.

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Posted by motaba on 09-20-2007 09:59 AM:

many mixed messages here,
I've burned to dvd using vso's convertx to blah blah blah
and on a little 28 - 32 inch TV with 2 channel sterio its absolutely fine both image and audio.

but, put it on anything bigger than a 42 inch plasma and yes does get blocky in the dark scenes with slight blur. Audio still desent.

either way if its for the kids then you wont waste your bandwidth but if your projecting on a wall to impress some japanese executives into buying your bootleg business, then forget it cause it wont impress.


Posted by Bisky on 09-20-2007 10:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by neptunesblood
Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


Huh? what the hell is that supposed to mean?

:MOD EDIT: ..he's confusing teleSYNC with teleCINE. Basically, he's a moron. -V


Posted by silverhawk on 09-20-2007 01:00 PM:

to me this is a TC but not a good one

video slighty grainy & dark in places
audio hollow & crackley

V/7

A/7


Posted by fireman911 on 09-20-2007 01:13 PM:

V:7 because the crop, other wise a good tc, from russia shame to see again that mVs don't have own sources :P )
A:8 (good nice audio )
M: 8 seen the pukka ts, movie was good

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Posted by BillyBong on 09-20-2007 04:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bisky
Huh? what the hell is that supposed to mean?

:MOD EDIT: ..he's confusing teleSYNC with teleCINE. Basically, he's a moron. -V



Dear god the mod's comment put me in tears!!!

I converted to DVD using DVDSanta, looks decent on standalone

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Posted by Debby on 09-20-2007 04:47 PM:

A little oc, but not that noticable.
I got excellent results with Lanczos on ffdshow - filters most of the blur.

7.5/6/5 - I can't believe this thing scored 8.4 on imdb...


Posted by shadowsniper on 09-20-2007 05:45 PM:

Just had another chance to look through this in a bit more depth...

Is that slight camera shaking towards the middle of the film? Particularly around the 49.20 mark. I could be wrong but it looks a bit wobbly to me. The Pixar splash screen at the beginning looks to be on a slight angle too?

The Russian text at the start of the short film at the beginning as well.... hmm.... could be a Russian TC job, i dunno, plus what definitely sounds like line audio. All the evidence seems to point to TS in my opinion.


Posted by newdad23 on 09-21-2007 12:20 AM:

Do you people even know what the dfference between a TC and TS are? I'm so sick and tired of people saying, "It's ether a really good TS or a bad TC" Please stop it! TS is direct audio with camera video quality. This is no cam. It's in russian so I'm betting on a crappy R5. But I'll will make my votes on a TC.


V- 8.5
A-7
M-10

Please read and find out about the difference before the ignorence kicks in


Posted by KrackZaa on 09-21-2007 12:42 AM:

its not an r5 its the reason why r5 releases were started in the first place... just do a google search on r5 ull learn all you need to about it and then you dont have to ask questions everyday, its a bootleg tc.

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Posted by arrowhead on 09-21-2007 03:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadowsniper
Just had another chance to look through this in a bit more depth...

Is that slight camera shaking towards the middle of the film? Particularly around the 49.20 mark. I could be wrong but it looks a bit wobbly to me. The Pixar splash screen at the beginning looks to be on a slight angle too?

The Russian text at the start of the short film at the beginning as well.... hmm.... could be a Russian TC job, i dunno, plus what definitely sounds like line audio. All the evidence seems to point to TS in my opinion.



just started the file, yeah the pixar splash screen is defently a proof for mistagged.ts
even a blind one should see that. will try to look out for the shaking because i don't wanna go to that part right now because i gonna watch the movie now.

ts:

7

sound:

7

movie:

dunno


Posted by imspecial on 09-21-2007 04:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by newdad23
It's in russian so I'm betting on a crappy R5. But I'll will make my votes on a TC.



Wouldn't a really crappy R5 would be a telecine technically as an R5 is essentially a professionally done telecine, without all of the cleanup that Dvds have...


Posted by OSH on 09-21-2007 05:29 AM:

I'll accept this release, seeing as it's the best release to date. Doesn't look half bad, could be better, but good enough for sure.

V-7
A-Hard to tell, I only viewed the first rar
M-?

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Posted by fireman911 on 09-21-2007 03:27 PM:

ok, downloaded whole movie to see where people talk about....

first pixar was not good for a tc, bad angle etc.
second was better, don't see problems with that one....
the dark scene's in the movie are to dark .
at the end of the movie, the credits turn into shit, last pixar is real shit
don't know why they do that...

other thing is, every tc in the past came into svcd/xvid/dvdr.
so where is the dvdr mVs? it isn't, because this is a very nice ts!
btw good luck mVs with your Resident Evil: Extinction ts or you gonna cal this tc also?

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Posted by Wanderer22 on 09-22-2007 07:49 PM:

quote:
at the end of the movie, the credits turn into shit, last pixar is real shit
don't know why they do that...

That's easy.. saves bitrate for the rest of the film instead of wasting it on moving text. I've seen that a lot on various scene releases that include full credits, even DVDRips.

Anyhoo.. having just watched the whole thing, I'm going to agree that this appears to be a high quality TS and not a TC. There's a bit of angle here and there, and definite cropping going on, which is typically unneeded for a true TC. And the quality just isn't there. Too much shadow detail lost, colors are too muted, etc.

Still, I missed this one in theatres, and this is more than watchable for a first-time viewing.

V - 6 (since it's billed as a TC, I'd give it a 8-9 as a TS)
A - 5
M - 7

Sadly, I didn't enjoy the film as much as I've enjoyed Pixar's other films. Won't stop me from putting the Blu-ray on my Christmas wish-list, though.


Posted by beni on 09-23-2007 05:04 PM:

just seen it but im no expert on a 26" tv i would give it

V-6
A-7
M-7


Posted by SultrySalesman on 09-26-2007 06:27 AM:

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Posted by CARR73 on 10-12-2007 11:00 AM:

Definitely a cropped TS - A pretty good TS, so very watchable.

V : 7
A : 7
M : 8


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