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Posted by Ekno on 03-30-2008 12:48 AM:

This is definitely the one to get.

Rated as R5
V-10
A-10
M-7

I didn't experience any sync issues, so far it looks like a flawless R5.

Dont compare this with DVD, HD, or 5.1 Audio, DTS etc, rate the audio as LiNE and the video as R5.


Posted by cookiemaster on 03-30-2008 12:54 AM:

a much needed improvement.. thanks mvs for making a watchable release for us.


v: 9 (only mastered retail would be better)
a: 7 a little low on but pretty damn good for direct line and about 100x better then the other cam sources
m: looks pretty good will watch tomorrow

edit: haha why did some kid rate it 4/4.. some people have nothing better to do i guess.


Posted by felt on 03-30-2008 01:19 AM:

V-8
A-7
M-6 (THE ENDING SUX)


100000x better than the other pre's


Posted by Hansel on 03-30-2008 02:24 AM:

V:8
A:2
M:7

Great video, crappy audio (it may be Line, but it still sounds like crap), ok movie.

Get your act together MVS (not that it's ever actually ever been together, but you have to start at some point).


Posted by Anno on 03-30-2008 02:44 AM:

Audio is still poor.
OK in quiet scenes with just low level voices but whenever there is noise (and this film has plenty) The distortion is terrible. Better than prior releases but sounds heavily filtered and IF it is line/direct it's from something like a crappy FM drive-in theatre, but then again, it is mvs so what do you expect. Their usual gumph.
It does seem to be synched ok tho.

V:8
A:4


Posted by denmat on 03-30-2008 03:33 AM:

Audio is a lot better, not perfect but not as bad as some say it is. I downloaded and extracted the 1st rar of each release and this one is, the proverbial, miles better. I did not hear this bad distortion on the loud scenes though (could be speakers maybe)
After all it is a R5 line, You should not be expecting dvd quality dolby digital sound.
If in doubt convert to dvd and let the tele sort it out, sound always is much better there than on the computer.

Anyway
V=9 (very good, crisp and clear)
A=6.5-ish possibly 7 - Rated as Line (not the best line, but not all together that overly bad.
M=? (will watch this)


Posted by Hansel on 03-30-2008 03:59 AM:

:MOD EDIT: ..links to samples/releases aren't allowed here. -V


Posted by formatted on 03-30-2008 04:14 AM:

V-9
A-5
M-7


Posted by jicjak on 03-30-2008 05:24 AM:

From scanning and now watching. Video fine. Audio much improved. No longer crappy cam but not exceptional line either. As someone already has noted the one to get.

9/7/?


Posted by surge on 03-30-2008 05:37 AM:

The audio is better than the previous releases, but I still think that it could be better, even for a Line.

video is great - 9 for R5
audio - 5.5/6
m - ?

I can't really tell from the sample on that pinter-int one as to which one is better or not..i dunno

Edit: Aight, after watching the few first minutes of the mVs one, especially in the scenes with the crowd noise, I can definately confirm that the sample for the pinter-int one is way better.


Posted by DaMoneyFan on 03-30-2008 08:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by denmat
Audio is a lot better, not perfect but not as bad as some say it is. I downloaded and extracted the 1st rar of each release and this one is, the proverbial, miles better. I did not hear this bad distortion on the loud scenes though (could be speakers maybe)
After all it is a R5 line, You should not be expecting dvd quality dolby digital sound.
If in doubt convert to dvd and let the tele sort it out, sound always is much better there than on the computer.

Anyway
V=9 (very good, crisp and clear)
A=6.5-ish possibly 7 - Rated as Line (not the best line, but not all together that overly bad.
M=? (will watch this)



WOW..Much better....is it me...or is the picture cleaner as well??


Posted by slitthroat on 03-30-2008 08:15 AM:

how do i download off this site...

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Posted by Mailman on 03-30-2008 09:30 AM:

Good video, but then this has been the way for a few days. Finally somone has direct audio. It's flat, but it's direct so thanks guys.

V-9
A-7.5
M-8


Posted by Hitcher on 03-30-2008 12:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mailman Sadly the DVD is now out, so you can get even better audio the same time.

What difference is it going to make on DVD if it's still the same 'line' audio?


Posted by Ratbag on 03-30-2008 12:30 PM:

The audio is not direct. It is the same cam audio as all the others.
For these reasons:-
1: The audio starts in exactly the same place approx 4-5 secs in on the Columbia Logo.
2: If you listen carefully at 20mins 56 secs you will hear the whistle has been edited out (Quads voice is cut short).
3: The audio finishes halfway through the end credits same as Cam.
4:If you listen carefully the audio frequency is heavily filtered to try to get rid of the cam hollow sound (reverb).In fact so heavily filtered at 29:20,41:05,49:40 you can hardly here the chimes of the town clock.

By the way My Credentials. I've been an Audio/Visual Engineer for 40 years.

V = 8
A = 4
M = 8

In fact should be "Nuked" Cam Audio not line and Stolen Audio.


Posted by Forsaken on 03-30-2008 01:22 PM:

yeah the audio is pretty poor in this

watched 10 min and had to stop cause it was so bad.

v - 9
a - 2
m -?

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Posted by Mailman on 03-30-2008 02:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ratbag
The audio is not direct. It is the same cam audio as all the others.
For these reasons:-
1: The audio starts in exactly the same place approx 4-5 secs in on the Columbia Logo.
2: If you listen carefully at 20mins 56 secs you will hear the whistle has been edited out (Quads voice is cut short).
3: The audio finishes halfway through the end credits same as Cam.
4:If you listen carefully the audio frequency is heavily filtered to try to get rid of the cam hollow sound (reverb).In fact so heavily filtered at 29:20,41:05,49:40 you can hardly here the chimes of the town clock.

By the way My Credentials. I've been an Audio/Visual Engineer for 40 years.

In fact should be "Nuked" Cam Audio not line and Stolen Audio.



Not here to argue regardless of who you claim to be. Everyone has ears and so if this is a total cam, it is the best filitered cam in the world. Come dude, you see releases all the time where cam audio is edited in to replace direct spots, watch Roscoe Jenkins. Where is starts isn't proof, it just means that is where they started the direct sound. It's direct with some cam added, you can nuke it if you like based on that. There is no way you can be honest and say the whole thing is cam. My credentials...I have ears and they work. Don't believe me, look at my recent Flight Physical. Nice comments though, I can't say I would spend the time to listen and marking spots though unless you really liked this release also.


Posted by surge on 03-30-2008 05:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ratbag
The audio is not direct. It is the same cam audio as all the others.



I agree.
Reguardless of all the stuff you said, I have ears too...
And there is just something NOT right about the audio here...Or it could just be really crappy line? Either way, it could be better.


Posted by shotaiken on 03-30-2008 07:08 PM:

It's CAM audio, but just enhanced, and for certain STOLEN from other releases.

But audible.


Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 03-30-2008 09:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ratbag


By the way My Credentials. I've been an Audio/Visual Engineer for 40 years.




I have to say then i am glad i have never neededyou as a\v tech engineer then, because your ears sux lol.

This is definitely not the same source as cam, plenty of bass, no noticable sync errors. It does sound like its been run thru a lot of filters, but audio is def direct.

Being a somewhat mVs hater at times, i have to say that this is the copy to .
get, and can only assume that posters comparing this to the others must not be watching the mvs copy.

v = 9
a =8
m = 8.5 (liked it)

the one to watch

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Posted by iLLmATiK on 03-30-2008 09:56 PM:

sound sounds to me like has a lot of static... dont know but kinda hurts my ears but doesnt really ruin the movie.

v-8.5
a-5
m- 7


Posted by The CandyMan on 03-30-2008 10:15 PM:

Sound does seem a little off, had to play around with it with my surround sound.

V-8
A-7
M-7

Decent enough flick.

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Posted by ukiron on 03-30-2008 10:22 PM:

i have watched the ignite r5 and the audio was not great as stated was cam audio. mvs r5 on the other hand is better has alot more bass ect. do you boys ever convert the rls or watch the avi on a standalone, mvs rls did not sound great on my pc speakers with distortion on the loud parts of the movie. but when played on a standalone its actually not that bad and it does not distort at all. i am sure its is the same cam audio as ignites r5 but has been improved significantly.
v-9
a-7.5
m-8


Posted by DigitaLSD on 03-31-2008 01:51 AM:

Heh, look, there were 3 total official Scene releases and 1 P2P release. It's for sure the same video as they all have been. The audio is for sure the same audio as the TDM release, it's just been filtered. You can tell at all the marks the previous guy gave you (The person whistling in the background caused an actors words to get cut off slightly when edited out (And exactly where the audio starts)) are right on point. I have a degree in the recording arts. It's not that hard to notch filter out sounds and frequencies, and in this case it looks like a compressor/limiter was used as well, which is why a lot of you are getting "clipping" comming from your speakers. The Threshold was set wrong. I don't pretend to work in the industry, I work sound for myself, I master some local bands CD's in my home studio, nothing major, but I can tell you for sure this audio is just filtered cam audio from the TDM release. The iGNiTE release was horrible audio and I think everyone can agree here that it definitely was NOT iGNiTE's audio. BUT, the P2P version was also TDM's version Both Audio and Video Wise, also known as ITL2.0. I will wait for direct, untampered audio, perhaps a 5.1 AC3 will emerge ;-)

***For the record, to the guy that said "who cares where the audio comes from". They specifically state in their NFO that it's LINE audio, and it most certainly is NOT. So, those of us who want superior sound quality were LIED to. Hence the reason we feel the need to explain where the audio came from, so others who want good sound do not make the same mistake...***

As R5.LINE
V-8
A-5
M-7


Posted by Filthy_Rich on 03-31-2008 11:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by surge
I can't really tell from the sample on that pinter-int one as to which one is better or not..i dunno

Edit: Aight, after watching the few first minutes of the mVs one, especially in the scenes with the crowd noise, I can definately confirm that the sample for the pinter-int one is way better.



Yeah i grabbed the pinter release aswell as this and agree with you, the pinter is much better (doesn't have the hiss - still cam though, has the whistling and people coughing)

This release

V 9 nice
A 6 constant hiss
M 7 Ok


Posted by gezzer on 03-31-2008 11:56 PM:

Who gives a flying f**k where the audio comes from its listenable and watchable leave the squabbling to the kiddies.
9/7/7 props to mvs for this.I dont see any of the complainees volunteering to go to the pics armed with a camcorder and an mp3 recorder or whatever.


Posted by captj2113 on 04-03-2008 05:22 PM:

Audio is awful...

V: 9
A: 5/6
M: ?


Posted by mharris7 on 04-03-2008 11:48 PM:

nice picture no real soud issues havent watched the film yet so cannot comment on it v8/a7/m?

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Posted by Colby885 on 04-06-2008 12:25 AM:

I just watched this the other night.
I have to say that i expected a little more from the movie itself. Also think they gave away too much in some perspectives too early.

Either way...

V: 9 (Visually Wonderful)

A: 5 (I played with the VLC equalizer it helped a little)

M: 7 (Writing and plot line was weak at times, though it was a great idea. I expected them to work the president as a little bit more of a main character. )


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