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Posted by baha on 10-22-2006 10:05 PM:

Torchwood

They said "fucking"

And "arse".

All within the first 2 minutes!


Posted by baha on 10-22-2006 10:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by baha
Torchwood, yeah, thanks Mother. Remember seeing a trailer for it not that long ago. Bit worried that it'll be full of man-love storylines Hopefully there'll be enough plot, fx and thrills to get past that.
40 mins into the first episode and a full on throat gagging man-on-man tongue swap


Posted by Sin on 10-22-2006 11:46 PM:

this feels distinctly tawdry for some reason. It may be the fact ive still got BSG S3 Ep4 still burnt into my skull but it was really...erm...non adultish? Still feels like kidsplay even with all the sex etc which is just being used to add to the supposed hardcore nature of the program

Ill still watch it but this doesnt feel quite right as a grown ups Sci Fi. I suppose BSG has stolen all the thunder for that.


Posted by baha on 10-23-2006 12:22 AM:

It's juvenille camp bullshit. They've tried to use sex (and sexuality) to cover the lack of any real storylines. Captain Jack is gay, the lead female has already had a lesbo snog, so has the dweeb sex maniac (gay kiss rather than lesbo of course), which only leaves the asexual chinese chick and the currently dead (soon to be reincarnated) indian one as potentially straight.

The first episode didn't have any story at all. Even though, in most series of this type, the first episode is the location and character setting episode, usually involving the 'revelation' of weird and wonderful happenings to a cynic/naive/oblivious newbie who gradually becomes inducted/initiated, there is usually the start of a thread or at least a story to become involved with. The death of Suzie was no doubt meant to be of some importance, but who the fuck cared? We'd only just met the character and no fucker in Torchwood even seemed to notice that she was gone

Second episode: cute paedo-pleasing looking chick fucking her way to orgasmatronic destruction. Cool if you're 14yo, passe to anyone who's popped their cherry.

Two episodes watched, highly unlikely I'll make any effort to watch any more episodes, but I'll tune in if I'm home and I remember it's on.


Posted by jmonfm on 10-23-2006 02:49 AM:

I must have this wrong ?!?!?! I thought that this Torchwood was a spin-off from the new series of Dr Who ????
or am I in a drunken stupor?? I must admit that I have only seen 2 trailers for it so far, but these write-ups seem to say that it is not even worth a quick look.

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Posted by Sin on 10-23-2006 09:55 AM:

it is a spinoff from doctor who, torchwood and capt jack harkness have featured in doctor who for a few episodes (thought not previously linked together.) Also torchwood is an anagram of doctor who.


Didnt really seem to save it from seeming puerile and stupid. Lots of sex and profanity do not make a show "gritty" (unless its scarface, in which case rock on! )


Posted by Bird of Prey on 10-23-2006 10:18 AM:

watched both episodes total waste of my time. mediocre at best.


Posted by Vampire on 10-23-2006 10:24 AM:

I agree with all the comments so far - it was bad. Dialogue was poor, the plot in the second episode was laughable, swearing was OTT, gay scenes/references were rife and I dislike most of the characters already. I must confess to laughing at the line "He came and went!" though - in my defense, I was extremely tired.


Posted by Sin on 10-23-2006 03:11 PM:

tbh i had a gut feeling it would be cack from the supposed teasers

the whole "we're outside the police, above the government, beyond the UN" sounded like 15 year olds bullshit.

Ill give it another go next week, and hopefully it can pull itself out of the shit. If not, itll just be a big pile of cack.


Posted by baha on 10-23-2006 08:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Sin
Also torchwood is an anagram of doctor who.
I never noticed that!

quote:
Originally posted by jmonfm
I must have this wrong ?!?!?! I thought that this Torchwood was a spin-off from the new series of Dr Who ????

Yeah, it is. Anyone who watched Dr Who will remember that Torchwood was commissioned by Queen Victoria to protect the Earth from alien hostiles (and iirc to specifally watch out for the Dr's meddling in human affairs) at the conclusion of the stately home werewolf episodes when, even though he saved mankind, Vic wasn't too chuffed with the Dr's presence in her empire.

And for those wondering what the whole gay thing is about : Russel T Davies is the lead writer and producer behind the new Dr Who and creator of Torchwood. He's rampantly gay and since his massive success with "Queer As Folk" brings his gay agenda to virtually everything he's involved with...thus my (now justified) fear that Torchwood would be more about being gay than to do with sci-fi.


Posted by Sin on 10-23-2006 08:25 PM:

the whole torchwood came about as someone had the idea of labelling the tapes sent from wales to london as torchwood to stop em being stolen. Russell T Davies liked the idea so much that he decided to make a new show of it.


Posted by jmonfm on 10-24-2006 12:55 AM:

The big problem is that kids ( like my 8 year old ) who have discovered Dr Who want to get involved with this spin-off.
This is obviously not possible as the material is unsuitable for the wide age range of the Dr Who audience.
Such a shame that they have done this - still I should be grateful that they are doing such a good job on the new Dr Who and introducing a whole generation to a great show.
I grew up with Patrick Troughton - Jon Pertwee - Tom Baker.

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Posted by Neversoft on 10-24-2006 04:24 PM:

I enjoyed it but the swearing and sex felt "tacked-on" it would work as a Dr Who spin-off if they ditched the adult crap and put it on before the 9pm watershed.

I'll be watching it, but I much prefer Dr Who.

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Posted by David Cameron on 10-24-2006 08:44 PM:

Meh ........ gay.... meh


Posted by daveok on 11-09-2006 07:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
I enjoyed it but the swearing and sex felt "tacked-on" it would work as a Dr Who spin-off if they ditched the adult crap and put it on before the 9pm watershed.

I'll be watching it, but I much prefer Dr Who.



I second that. The last episode was a bit gay with that cyber chick

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Posted by A_T on 11-09-2006 11:11 PM:

I'm afraid us Brits don't so sci-fi very well.


Posted by LOLobo on 11-12-2006 12:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by A_T
I'm afraid us Brits don't so sci-fi very well.


What???

Don't quote for everybody there. And I'm not a Brit.


Posted by steakknife03 on 11-21-2006 01:14 AM:

Well I've given this show a chance up until the last show I wasn't impressed but I'm really startin to like it


Posted by Neversoft on 11-21-2006 01:18 AM:

Well, I like it but it still feels like a dumping ground for Doctor Who scripts that didn't make it... and i wish they'd stop shoving gays down my throat

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Posted by qafan on 11-27-2006 01:20 PM:

Thumbs up

Personally I love the show and I'm deeply sorry that the American audience at large will probably never see it any time soon due to the rampant homophobia in this country. This in spite of the fact that Queer As Folk was the highest rated cable TV show EVER!
I went to burningman and it was GREAT to see straights gays nudist and non nudist getting along just fine why can't the rest of the world be like that? The previous poster said he was tired of homosexuallity being shoved down his throat try looking at that statement from the other side of the fence. Just think about how often straights do things in public that would get a gay couple beatup or worse. As for the kids angle the truth never hurt anyone but the lack of it certainly has. Again there where plenty of kids at Burningmad and they were more socially adjusted than most kids you see these days. We are in the 21st Century so we should realise by now that there are people out there that are different from us and deal with it. Why would the ET's let us in the club if we can't get along with our own speicies? And as for Brits not doing SciFi very well I must VEHEMENTLY disagree! Sure most of it is done on a smaller budget but the quality of the material more than makes up for that. Plus they go into areas that most american studios are either afraid to venture or are actully forbidden by the FCC to venture into. So I say HERE HERE to the Brits and a great big TALLY HO to boot!


Posted by Neversoft on 11-27-2006 08:07 PM:

My problem with it Qafan, is this... It's meant to be Sci-fi, not some one man crusade by Russell T Davis (who also created Queer as Folk). I agree that people have the right to do what they want with their own bodies. Hell, if every guy was as handsome as myself the whole world would be gay.

But alas, I wouldn't support any "fantasy" show pushing the writers own agenda... Irrespective of whether that agenda is pro-gay, pro-choice or pro-biotic.

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Posted by David Cameron on 11-27-2006 09:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
i wish they'd stop shoving gays down my throat


You usually pay for that kind of thing, why the change of heart?


Qafan. Paragraphs ??? heard of em?


Posted by David Cameron on 11-28-2006 08:08 PM:

Seems I have clocked up another fan

quote:

qafan wrote on 11-28-2006 01:04 PM:
If I where a professional writer I probably wouldn't have the time or inclination to be involved with a TV forum.

If every thing you do is perfect then I REALLLY feel for you. Tim


Posted by Dwaggy on 11-28-2006 08:49 PM:

So, knowing the basics of grammar makes me a professional writer? Kick ass.

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Posted by steakknife03 on 01-03-2007 05:17 PM:

I just watched the last two episodes for the season, They were good but far too much man loving in it for my liking. Looking forward to the new Dr who season I enjoyed the christmas special, any idea when it starts back.


Posted by monkies on 01-04-2007 02:31 PM:

The new Sarah Jane Adventures spin-off was pritty good, and not gay at all.


Posted by monkies on 01-04-2007 02:53 PM:

ok, was at tv com looking at possible date for new torchwood season, and happened onto this link in the discussion board
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages...in_page_id=1773

please, if you're Jack fans, don't look :/


Posted by Neversoft on 01-04-2007 03:38 PM:

My opinion hasn't changed that much... Torchwood is "ok" but still feels like a dumping ground for rejected Doctor Who scripts with added "fuck" and "shit" to make it more "edgy" and "adult" - it's so blatant and obvious that it makes me overuse "quotes"

That, coupled with Russel T Davies obvious attempts to play out his fantasies in each episode make it somewhat embarrassing and difficult to watch. JACK IS GAY, we get it, we just don't really care. What does bother me though is (frankly) I don't like to watch dudes kissing. No, I'm not homophobic but I don't want to watch full-on tongue action between two guys in what is essentially one of the BBCs flagship Sci-fi shows, especially when it's as tacked-on and superfluous to the plot as the recent "Jack Harkness" episode was. Not only was the scene at the end of the dance unnecessary but it was stupid... Being in the Army and having a full-on tongue sandwich with another guy, in front of a crowd of soldiers in 1940-something wouldn't happen. ok, having a "rift" open under Cardiff is pretty unlikely too but you get my point!

So please, Russel, for the sake of the hetrosexual viewers that you haven't already alienated, drop the gratuitous man-on-man action and get on with writing some episodes that don't appear to have been written by a dyslexic mollusc with ADHD... You cunt!

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Posted by David Cameron on 01-04-2007 06:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
get on with writing some episodes that don't appear to have been written by a GAY dyslexic mollusc with ADHD... You cunt!


fixed

I know you're not surprised by all the gay content. It was always gonna be the case with Davies in control, he is on a crusade to force gayness into the mainstream, he doesn't seem to care if thats what people want or not.

Men kissing is just Wrong in so many ways. I don't care what people get up to in their private lives, not anti-gay or anything, I just really really really don't like seeing two dudes snog.

Men Kissing on TV = Wrong


Posted by steakknife03 on 01-17-2008 01:00 AM:

Well torchwood is back and their's a ridiculous amount of gayness to this show. It like every character is now gay. Its worst than last season.


Posted by memoman v2 on 01-26-2008 05:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cupidstunt
fixed

I know you're not surprised by all the gay content. It was always gonna be the case with Davies in control, he is on a crusade to force gayness into the mainstream, he doesn't seem to care if thats what people want or not.

Men kissing is just Wrong in so many ways. I don't care what people get up to in their private lives, not anti-gay or anything, I just really really really don't like seeing two dudes snog.

Men Kissing on TV = Wrong



I was put off torchwood by the content..They try to soften it with an edited version for kids..It's a poor second cousin to doctor who that never needs censorship as it is not so potentially offensive.Torchwood needs rethinking.however You cannot avoid content on televison concerning peoples sexual preferences but the manor that it is presented should be rethought not everone wants to see it.It's a difficult issue to control when eveyone no matter what there sexual orientation has rights against discrimination.Schools and television hold a lot of influence over children and i think that the pro gay acceptance they portray could confuse young innocenct minds.If people turn out gay thats there decision and there right to be who they feel most confortable being,But it should not be a decision inflenced by schools and media pressure.


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