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Posted by Butch on 08-23-2003 11:37 PM:

Wow the blur and the timer are still there but the picture is far clearer than the workprint. No pixelation that i can see.Nice release man. Whats with the VOB files in with the sample (yes i did read the NFO).
7/7/6

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Posted by ducklington on 08-23-2003 11:54 PM:

seen sample and have to agree -better than wp copy-
7/6/9


Posted by ams30gts on 08-24-2003 12:15 AM:

why was this nuked?


quality looks decent


Posted by revolution-x on 08-24-2003 12:19 AM:

:(

nuked for exactly same serial blurs as nox workprint
we all knew this was comming mislableingzzz 7.5/8/8


Posted by pHo on 08-24-2003 12:22 AM:

and since when did a workprint HAVE to differ from a final cut? it doesn't.

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Posted by mew on 08-24-2003 12:40 AM:

If you read the nfo you would know its not same source, or rather the NOX was originaly from that source but through a few encodes and convertions got washed out and therefor looks like crap. Take a look in the sample dir and compare the two vob sources and you will know the diffrence. Since it doesnt seem to miss any scenes or effects I think labling it a wp wouldve been stupid, NOX probably did so because their source was messed up in the process and wouldve never have looked good enough to pass for a screener. Just my two cents

8/8/6


Posted by kronik on 08-24-2003 12:57 AM:

The release is a screener. It's better than the previous release.
8/8/8


Posted by Butch on 08-24-2003 01:42 AM:

*woot?*

Ok so the Nox VOB was in the sample folder to show the difference between the two.The word Nuke says there is something wrong with this release.This is the best release so far and people should know that.Audio is the same but the picture is far better then the workprint.Seriously nukes are handed out to the best releases for stupid reasons sometimes,just because people feel they have the power to nuke.

Ignore the Nuke people this is the one to get props to VideoCD

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Posted by ducklington on 08-24-2003 01:50 AM:

absolutely pointless nuke
best release so far-whomever hands these nukes out has not got a clue


Posted by badboyz on 08-24-2003 01:52 AM:

best release so far although still a little blur

7/8/10


Posted by GaryX on 08-24-2003 02:22 AM:

7/8/6

Wish this was an SVCD would of been nicer.Movie itself wasn't terrible but I didn't like it and I've seen every nightmare on elm st.(1st is best) and some friday the 13ths(jasons my least favorite evil dude)

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Posted by PiSSeD_WoMBaT on 08-24-2003 04:17 AM:

Quote by GaryX

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Wish this was an SVCD would of been nicer.


A video tape has a resolution of 352x240 at 29.967fps for NTSC and 352x288 at 25fps for PAL so makeing it a SVCD (480x480 at 29.967fps or 480x576 at 25fps) would just be stretching the picture with no improvment in quality. So thats why NO Screeners are released as SVCD.

This rls should not be nuked, its better quality (kind of). Shouldn't it just be a *Dupe*?


Posted by morco on 08-24-2003 04:17 AM:

Yea i agree SVCd would of helped.


but better nonetheless anyway 8/8/9


Posted by Joynt on 08-24-2003 04:52 AM:

Previously Stated

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Ok so the Nox VOB was in the sample folder to show the difference between the two.The word Nuke says there is something wrong with this release.This is the best release so far and people should know that.Audio is the same but the picture is far better then the workprint.Seriously nukes are handed out to the best releases for stupid reasons sometimes,just because people feel they have the power to nuke.


quote:
It wasn't nuked on any site that actually matters. Moving right along.


Well the reason there are rules in the scene is to help keep standards up and to make sure people get what they want. Just because it may be decent does not mean that you can just let it sliop through the cracks. I could release a ts of a movie, call it an scr, but even if it's a good ts it will be nuked, that's what rules are for.


Posted by GaryX on 08-24-2003 05:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PiSSeD_WoMBaT
Quote by GaryX



A video tape has a resolution of 352x240 at 29.967fps for NTSC and 352x288 at 25fps for PAL so makeing it a SVCD (480x480 at 29.967fps or 480x576 at 25fps) would just be stretching the picture with no improvment in quality. So thats why NO Screeners are released as SVCD.

This rls should not be nuked, its better quality (kind of). Shouldn't it just be a *Dupe*?



Would be less pixels though and a tape looks fine full screen where as vcd full screen on my tv is obviously much less quality than the original tape.

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Posted by bryehn on 08-24-2003 05:13 AM:

hrm...uhm....shit...i just finished watching the NOX release about 20 minutes 'fore i came across this one...better by a mile...well, half a mile anyways.

i don't use topsites, so i'm really not sure where/why this got a nuke...maybe mislabled, but still...prolly won't get better till an actual screener.

NOX was totally watchable, this one will get less bitching from my friends that expect a SCR the day after release.

the movie itself was some kick ass shit for a shitty "horror" movie...blew my expectations away...

based on VideoCD's sample...

7.5/8/7.5

NOX gets a 6/8/7.5 by comparison...

either way, it's good to go...

and as for SVCD...it'd be pointless on this...if you know anything about framerates/resolution, or VHS conversion, you'll surely agree.

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Posted by shak3 on 08-24-2003 05:43 AM:

definately a nicer print than the NOX version, but exact same runtimes...and the audio is pretty much the same...i ran the damn NOX release through 18hours of Noise Filter in TMPEG and came pretty close....LOL

this one, 8/8/9


Posted by S|n|ster on 08-24-2003 06:31 AM:

i hope this post will finally show.

Movie Ratings:

Picture - 7.5 (nice colors and quality the bar on the left and numbers arent that bad
Sound - 7.5 (nice and clear)
Movie - 5.8 (typical friday / freddy flick too predictable)

If your looking for a good quality release this is it great job!!!

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Posted by ugzkmk on 08-24-2003 07:45 AM:

does this by chance have the same dots in the frames as TCR release did? just curious if it in fact does have to do with tracking of which movies came where..





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Posted by alpha_code on 08-24-2003 11:33 AM:

Video: This is the best so far..

Audio: No problems here either:

Movie: Excellent

Ok the pic is a little dark but then there are a lot off dark scenes. This foor me is the best rls of this movie that has been released.


7.5|8|9


Posted by BlackRaven on 08-24-2003 02:57 PM:

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Originally posted by ugzkmk
does this by chance have the same dots in the frames as TCR release did? just curious if it in fact does have to do with tracking of which movies came where..





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Are you talking about 4 red dots in the top right corner, if so that was there in the cinema, but I don't know if they are all slightly different (though I doubt it).

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Posted by jabba2k on 08-24-2003 03:08 PM:

picture is a little better. but I think it's not necessary to get it when you got the NOX release before.

the source is definitely different. the serial blur has been placed properly and the audio is not as good as in the NOX release.

8/6/10


Posted by HoldDaSalad on 08-24-2003 03:34 PM:

The movie was pure garbage, I will never watch this movie again for the rest of my life.

This movie ends up in my top 10 worst movies of all time.


quality is ok, exept for the blur and shit. sound is aight too.

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Posted by CcZ on 08-24-2003 04:13 PM:

This release is better than the NOX, I'd give the video a 7, and the audio an 8. Movie was better than the average Freddy/Jason flick, and you can't deny it...fuzz's review summed it all up perfectly, lots of T&A, blood, bodies, what's not to like? I'd give it 3 out of 5 stars, but since a 6/10 kinda sounds low, I'll give it a 6.5...it was a fun summer movie, nothing great, but I had fun, and that's what counts...


Posted by pHizZ on 08-24-2003 05:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ugzkmk
does this by chance have the same dots in the frames as TCR release did? just curious if it in fact does have to do with tracking of which movies came where..





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This was a VHS source.


Posted by HoldDaSalad on 08-24-2003 07:11 PM:

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Originally posted by CcZ
This release is better than the NOX, I'd give the video a 7, and the audio an 8. Movie was better than the average Freddy/Jason flick, and you can't deny it...fuzz's review summed it all up perfectly, lots of T&A, blood, bodies, what's not to like? I'd give it 3 out of 5 stars, but since a 6/10 kinda sounds low, I'll give it a 6.5...it was a fun summer movie, nothing great, but I had fun, and that's what counts...



I think this movie is far worse than any other Jason, or freddy movie I ever saw. I give it 1/32 of a star out of 4, It was terrible. But hey to each there own right.

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Posted by side on 08-24-2003 11:34 PM:

looks good

Looks alright...too bad those savages don't know how to take out a serial properly though..

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Posted by kakarot12300 on 08-25-2003 05:05 AM:

wait, why was this nuked? just because nox had the same source and came first?


Posted by luckyluke80 on 08-25-2003 07:44 AM:

Thumbs up Great rls

just saw it good rls guys quality the bar on the left and numbers arent that bad at all good sound and not bad video. nox and this rls are not from the same source read the nfo


Posted by kakarot12300 on 08-25-2003 11:44 AM:

im not getting why it was nuked... just because nox came first with the same format copy? if theres something wrong with it ill get the nox version..


Posted by KrackZaa on 08-25-2003 04:03 PM:

nuked for mislabeled workprint, kinda like their dumb and dumberer "screener". although it does look much better than noxs, more clear, get this one if you really like the movie even if you have noxs.

8/8/9

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Posted by Beelzebud on 08-26-2003 05:29 PM:

This is the best release out there. No need for nuke. I don't care what it's labeled as. It looks better than all the properly labeled ones.


Posted by mew on 08-26-2003 05:56 PM:

Any of you smart people who call this one wp care to tell me what the diffrence is between a wp that isnt missing any scenes or music/audio or special fx etc. and an early screener? Or is it "oh its early it must be wp"?


Posted by LOLobo on 09-03-2003 10:54 AM:

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Originally posted by GaryX
Would be less pixels though and a tape looks fine full screen where as vcd full screen on my tv is obviously much less quality than the original tape.


I tend to agree, I never see as much blocking on an SVCD. This release is the best version, especially since there was no cropping. However, on the dark scenes you do notice typical vcd blocking in the background. I don't care what anyone thinks, I would have looked more forward to an SVCD of this version. Don't see how it couldn't have been at least slightly better.


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