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Untouched DVD-9 with 95 X 50mb files? and a 3 hour movie?
come on now!
Ok must be a nfo error saw it posted at 85 x 100mb files
wow good luck compressing this one.. looks like a needed dvd 9 burn to me
125mb menu
7.67 gig movie
110mb extra whatever
10/10/8
Way to go ANBC
With this movie length and action its the only way to go.
There are likely to be as many playback issues with DVD+DL as there were with BoCCa's release. You can't make a test burn so stand by for flood of posts to the effect "I've burned 5xDL discs so far and every one has been a coaster".
And for what? There's no DTS track or director's commentary. I'm usually in favour of DVD-9 uploads but on this occasion I can't see the point. Few of us will make a better conversion than BoCCa managed so it becomes a waste of bandwidth and/or blank dual-layer discs.
And the purists who pleaded for this release? Are they now going to download this version or - as I suspect - simply wait for the retail disc to come out in a couple of weeks time?
Video 10, audio 8, movie 7, no problems burning or watching.... No DTS thats why the audio 8, they are probably saving that for the Extended edition Final directors cut , something that will sell more dvds..TY aNBc
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Originally posted by ntscuser
Few of us will make a better conversion than BoCCa managed so it becomes a waste of bandwidth and/or blank dual-layer discs
Actually, just download. Unrar it, and split it into two dvd5's. You can use dvd shrink to just split it without compression, and the other part of movie on another disk.. Maybe when they get to the island, split it up. Leave menu/extras and all on the first disk with first part of the movie.
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Originally posted by ntscuser
There are likely to be as many playback issues with DVD+DL as there were with BoCCa's release. You can't make a test burn so stand by for flood of posts to the effect "I've burned 5xDL discs so far and every one has been a coaster".
And for what? There's no DTS track or director's commentary. I'm usually in favour of DVD-9 uploads but on this occasion I can't see the point. Few of us will make a better conversion than BoCCa managed so it becomes a waste of bandwidth and/or blank dual-layer discs.
And the purists who pleaded for this release? Are they now going to download this version or - as I suspect - simply wait for the retail disc to come out in a couple of weeks time?
This looks alot better than the Bocca release, but still not that great video, seems to be a tad grainy, but thats seems to be getting more common recently.
Audio is fine, but obviously no better than the previous release.
I have about 60% of this so far, and plan on burning it to a DL disc for myself, and ntsc user, i have yet to have a bad burn with DL discs, so people having problems are either using a dodgy burner or cheap discs.
Also gonna try a DVD5 version of my own, possibly with a custom script and maybe a KDVD matrix.
9/9/?
What DL media are yall having the best luck with.Anyone here used Playo brand.
just use dvd decrypter and set booktype as dvd-rom, so it will play in all dvd players. hope a collectors edition or something is released with dts es 6.1 or something.
any extras on this, nfo dosent say?
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Originally posted by Shown
What DL media are yall having the best luck with.Anyone here used Playo brand.
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Originally posted by Redemption1980
This looks alot better than the Bocca release, but still not that great video, seems to be a tad grainy, but thats seems to be getting more common recently.
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Originally posted by Shown
What DL media are yall having the best luck with.Anyone here used Playo brand.
Thx for the info. I ordered a 10pk of Verbatim DVD+R hope they burn in my NEC 3550a.sre15.2re15.2ss
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Originally posted by chaotic646
I use Verbatim DVD+R DL. Its the only brand Ive found that gives error-free consistant burns that pass the "verify sectors" check every single time. Other brands that Ive used are Memorex and Ritek. 4 out of the 10 Memorex DL's were coasters, and 6 out of the 10 Riteks were. They were all burned with a Pioneer DVR-108 and a NEC ND-3550A with latest firmware.
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Originally posted by ntscuser
Point made?
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Originally posted by chaotic646
I was answering a question by Shown. I get verbatims for $2-$2.50 a piece or $20-$25 per 10-pack and they burn up to 8x. I only burn them at 4x though just to be safe and it takes about 30 minutes. I could care less about "photo printable"...
I use Ridata ones which i get for £2 each, might only be 2.4X but im not usually in a huge rush to watch something, and the PC is still usable when its Burning.
So your saying you would rather have a pretty label on ur disc and substandard video quality than perfect quality on a normal disc with the name written on it.
I download DVD9's all the time, but very rarely do i burn them onto a DL disc, mostly rip them to XviD and 2Disc versions with Movie on 1DVD and Extras on the other, last one i burned was a Star Wars LaserDisc DVD9 rip, just sometimes you have to, and if i dont feel like wasting a Dual Layer on this, i will just rip it to a 4gb XviD which will look alot better than the Bocca release, and burn it on a normal DVD5.

If I use RecordNow to burn this IMG, so I still have to somehow set the layer info, or will RN do this for me?
I've never used PgcEdit
Wait... I haven't got this release yet (just got back in town) so I am not 100% sure, but are you guys telling me the MDS file is NOT included!?! That has all layer break information and everything needed to make a perfect 1:1 DVD-9 copy. All you need is DVD-Decrypter or IMGburn, set burner to DVD-ROM (optional, I find DVD+R works just fine also), and then select the MDS and go...
And I use RITEK discs (which are branded Memorex) and they work 100% of the time. Zero coasters and over 50 burned. I REALLY dunno how I keep reading people are coastering these all the time, but I've never had problems. Verbatim discs ARE the best, but bling-bling for cost.
But I agree, 2.4x is a REAL pain in the ass, plus I DO verify to ensure I've got a 100% copy. Which takes up to 60 mins (not including the reading of the disc to begin with). All DVD+R DL RITEK burns I have done work on my stand-alone and my friends players also (which vary from Toshiba, JVC and Pioneer...)
Well, getting this release now, I sure hope I see the MDS file in there or I will have to make up a fake layer break using PGCedit... Can't imagine the stupidity of not including it, so I am probably jumping the gun. 8 gigs and then leave out a tiny file which will save people ALOT of work. Plus not all brakes happen at 50%, so I may have a break in the middle of a critical action scene.
:: EDIT - Well, the MDS file is not included... IMO that is absolutely retarded. Now I have to make the layer break to be able for this to be able to even think about playing on a standalone...
Any better methods out there other than PGCEdit? ::
:: EDIT 2 - OK... Maybe I am using an old school approach. When I say MDS, I refer to DVDDecrypter... Have people stopped using that altogether for IMGBurn? It's been good to me for years, so I never switched, but if I need IMGBurn for DLs, then I guess I should switch over ::
I burn my verbatim 2.4x dvd+r DL at 8x and I dont have any problems. BENQ DW1640 BSLB
I have always had IMG Burn just calculate the Optimal Layer Break for me, and i have never had any problems with that method, but cant guarentee it will work for everyone.
It is a bit silly there is no MDS with it, considering the size, least they could do would be to let us know the where to split it, then we could enter that manually before burning it.
As said, ive had no problems letting IMG Burn set if for me, and it appears to be OK, but havn't watched it all the way through yet.

porco, i have stopped using DVD Decrypter now, and only use IMG Burn for burning stuff, nothing wrong with DVD Decrypter, but as that wont be updated any longer, i felt it would be better to switch.
OK... So I got IMGBurn... When I select Optimal layer break I get...
Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: None Found! (VTS_01)
This image has not been mastered correctly for burning onto a double later (OTP Track Path) disc.
None of the cells meet the "DVD-Video specification' criteria for a potential layer break position.
After that, I burn it, it DOES a layer break at 50%, verifies 100%, but won't play in a standalone. On the computer it is fine (purely because it is treated like a data disc and not a video disc).
Just in case mention, the above message I wrote out occurs when I select, Tools > ISO > Display IFO Layer Break Information
IF it fails there, the "optimal setting" will most likely not work (just like it didn't for me).
What I did porco was mount the iso, rip the vobs, rebuilt the iso with PGCEdit, with (Options,Input/Output) "When saving leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP" checked and it set the layer break and it burned fine and played fine in my standalone.
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Originally posted by Chappy
What I did porco was mount the iso, rip the vobs, rebuilt the iso with PGCEdit, with (Options,Input/Output) "When saving leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP" checked and it set the layer break and it burned fine and played fine in my standalone.
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Originally posted by Chappy
What I did porco was mount the iso, rip the vobs, rebuilt the iso with PGCEdit, with (Options,Input/Output) "When saving leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP" checked and it set the layer break and it burned fine and played fine in my standalone.

i used my £1.65 datawrite 2.4x from scan.co.uk or there are 10x pcs of another brand that is printable for £13.50. £1.35 aint that much. aint bothered by 30min burn as it not very often i use a dual layer disc.
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Originally posted by hajj_3
i used my £1.65 datawrite 2.4x from scan.co.uk or there are 10x pcs of another brand that is printable for £13.50. £1.35 aint that much. aint bothered by 30min burn as it not very often i use a dual layer disc.
I can burn it with the standard settings, and it plays fine on the DVD Player, X-Box wont play it though, so might have to go down the long route in future for DVD9 Releases without a mds file, which is about 90% of the DVD9's that i grab, as most are either plain ISO's or VTS folders.

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Originally posted by Redemption1980
I can burn it with the standard settings, and it plays fine on the DVD Player, X-Box wont play it though, so might have to go down the long route in future for DVD9 Releases without a mds file, which is about 90% of the DVD9's that i grab, as most are either plain ISO's or VTS folders.
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Is it worth it? WELL, still faster than re-encoding the damn thing
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What I did porco was mount the iso, rip the vobs, rebuilt the iso with PGCEdit, with (Options,Input/Output) "When saving leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP" checked and it set the layer break and it burned fine and played fine in my standalone.
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Originally posted by f00kie
I did this process, but before burning, I used IMGBurn to see if the layer break is there (via porco556's method), and it said it isn't. I clearly selected to put it before Chapter 33. How can it be so?
But here is what I did...
). Following a guide, you'll never learn. You need to fill in the blanks yourself 
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Originally posted by porco556
Hehe, well it is NOT my methodBut here is what I did...
You need to download PGCEdit, IMGBurn, ImgTool Classic. Install them all. And you'll need D-Tools (or a mounting program) to mount the image.
Copy the entire DVD to your HD.
Load up PGCEdit.
1 - Options > Input/Output > Burn Create ISO Setup - Here you will point to all the programs you need (IMGTool Classic and IMGBurn).
2 - File > Open DVD - You will be opening the HD copy of Kong (should be in a VIDEO_TS folder)
3 - Options > Input/Output > When Saving, leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP? Make sure it's selected...
4 - File > Burn DVD / Create ISO - Just go with the flow. Too tired to type. Not hard. You'll see it will calculate the optimal break between chapter 32 and 33. You can preview it, etc... It will make the IMG and then launch IMGBurn for you. It imports all the sector/layer break. Just burn from there.
This is as much detail as I have time for. I think it's pretty detailed. Here is a link also (haha, would save me lot of time... But you know, my instructions are easier). Following a guide, you'll never learn. You need to fill in the blanks yourself
http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgce...ith_pgcedit.htm
is this the special edition?
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