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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-01-2008 08:37 PM:

HD goodness

Blu-Ray players are starting to come down in price.

Best Buy has there own brand Insignia Blu-Ray Player for $169 and the reviews are rather favorable for it.

You can get the SAMSUNG Blu-Ray Player BD-P1500 for $199 along with Panasonic, and Sony. So you do have choices.

If you want a Denon which is what I really want it's still gonna cost you $500 which I'm not willing to spend that much on a player, lol.

I'm starting to consider a BR player with these prices.

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Posted by Avenue_1 on 12-01-2008 08:46 PM:

PS3

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Posted by Darlowad on 12-01-2008 10:25 PM:

Im happy with the blu-rips @ the moment

hook the lappy to the screen and happy days

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-01-2008 11:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Darlowad v6.0b
Im happy with the blu-rips @ the moment

hook the lappy to the screen and happy days

Speaking of downloading HD rips.

I usually download the .x264 which don't play on the 360 but there are ways around that.

You can convert the .x264 into an mp4 file while you preserve the video quality but lose audio quality because the Xbox can't support the 5.1 audio with that format. I've converted a few movies and they all work on the PS3, and the 360

I really like the WMV HD movies, I recently got Wanted 1080p which looks awesome, and The Dark Knight 720p which looks great. The WMV files look great and the Xbox 360 supports 5.1 audio with this format.

Has anyone tried out the Netflix service with there 360? That's bad ass.

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Posted by bartleby on 12-01-2008 11:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gimp Mask
PS3

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-02-2008 12:06 AM:

I'm sorry but with the Netflix streaming service it makes the Xbox 360 the #1 choice for media.

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Posted by Ekno on 12-02-2008 06:10 AM:

Why even bother buying a bluray player?

Just buy a cable that connects your PC with your TV.

Posted by ntscuser on 12-02-2008 09:09 AM:

There's nothing I love more when watching a DVD than being lectured for 20 mins that I should have bought the Blu-Ray version instead because DVD is total crap.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-02-2008 09:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ekno
Why even bother buying a bluray player?

Just buy a cable that connects your PC with your TV.

That's what I've been doing for eons, but I've wanted a stand alone player for HD rips and I guess I found my answer. I'm watching Back to the Future 2 right now and it looks great on the 360.

I can't afford to get a Blu-Ray right now. The moment I can I am going to buy on and then start renting movies from netflix. I won't buy many movies I doubt.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-02-2008 09:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
There's nothing I love more when watching a DVD than being lectured for 20 mins that I should have bought the Blu-Ray version instead because DVD is total crap.

Some DVD's look great still.

Some movies like Harry Potter 5 look like pure horse shit on dvd, it's unwatchable.

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Posted by ntscuser on 12-02-2008 01:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
Speaking of downloading HD rips.

I usually download the .x264 which don't play on the 360 but there are ways around that.

You can convert the .x264 into an mp4 file while you preserve the video quality but lose audio quality because the Xbox can't support the 5.1 audio with that format. I've converted a few movies and they all work on the PS3, and the 360.

Search for rips with "AVCHD" in the title. I'm told these will play back on most recent standalones without any further conversion.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-02-2008 07:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
Search for rips with "AVCHD" in the title. I'm told these will play back on most recent standalones without any further conversion.

When you say standalones do you mean dvd players?

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Posted by ntscuser on 12-02-2008 07:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
When you say standalones do you mean dvd players?

Hi-def players. Check whether they support AVC first. Not all do.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-02-2008 08:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
Hi-def players. Check whether they support AVC first. Not all do.

Yeah, I googled AVCHD after reading your post, and yeah I guess some BR players do play em.

I could only find a few movies in that format.

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Posted by Avenue_1 on 12-02-2008 08:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
Yeah, I googled AVCHD after reading your post, and yeah I guess some BR players do play em.

I could only find a few movies in that format.

Hate to be the correcting police but...GET IT FUCKING RIGHT...IT'S A FUCKING BD PLAYER, NOT A FUCKING BR PLAYER YOU FUCKING CUNT!

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-02-2008 11:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gimp Mask
Hate to be the correcting police but...GET IT FUCKING RIGHT...IT'S A FUCKING BD PLAYER, NOT A FUCKING BR PLAYER YOU FUCKING CUNT!

How about this it's a Blu-Ray player you fucking git

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Posted by doctor zoidy on 12-02-2008 11:27 PM:

how much machine do you have if you're playing 1080p .264 files? I've got severe stuttering on a sample i downloaded as a test, and that's on a athlon 64 3200 @ 2.2GHz, 2gb ram, radeon x1300 256mb graphics...

I guess its probably time for an upgrade, but what're you using?

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quote:
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Thats alot of words for someone that sells DVDs out of the back of a truck

quote:
Originally posted by Avenue_1 v3.0b
Read zoidys comment for clarification.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-02-2008 11:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by doctor zoidy
how much machine do you have if you're playing 1080p .264 files? I've got severe stuttering on a sample i downloaded as a test, and that's on a athlon 64 3200 @ 2.2GHz, 2gb ram, radeon x1300 256mb graphics...

I guess its probably time for an upgrade, but what're you using?

Well the 360 plays 1080p perfectly since it's designed for it.

On my pc I have "some" problems with 1080p I have to use VLC to play em because with every other proggy out there they stutter.

I have AMD 5000+ 2gbs ram, ATI 2600xt agp 512mb

I'd say anything a bit better than what I got you're good on playing 1080p with most applications.

I prefer watching these movies on a stand alone player though.

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Posted by Bakkoda on 12-03-2008 02:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by doctor zoidy
how much machine do you have if you're playing 1080p .264 files? I've got severe stuttering on a sample i downloaded as a test, and that's on a athlon 64 3200 @ 2.2GHz, 2gb ram, radeon x1300 256mb graphics...

I guess its probably time for an upgrade, but what're you using?

dual core and 64bit OS help. I have an old single core Athlon 64 3200+ that wouldnt run 720 much when I had a 32 bit OS (Arch Linux). Slapped 64 bit on and 720 plays flawlessly.

Id say any dualcore with 2 gigs of ram would easily play 1080p. Your vid card might need an upgrade if you see a lot of tearing. I used ot be an nvidia man so I dont know the stats on older ATI cards.

Posted by doctor zoidy on 12-03-2008 04:11 AM:

as i was typing that i thought to myself "good lord, its time for a new rig!"

i hadn't realized its been about 2 years since my last upgrades... oh well, pricing out a quad core phenom wtih 8gig ram and a 512mb radeon 4000 HD series card... might be a good christmas after all. come to think of it, that'll probably speed up my encoding time just a bit too...

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quote:
Originally posted by Dwaggy
Thats alot of words for someone that sells DVDs out of the back of a truck

quote:
Originally posted by Avenue_1 v3.0b
Read zoidys comment for clarification.

Posted by ntscuser on 12-03-2008 07:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
Yeah, I googled AVCHD after reading your post, and yeah I guess some BR players do play em.

I could only find a few movies in that format.

One private tracker claims to have over 200 titles already but site rules prevent me from naming it. Expect this format to become more commonplace as BD player market penetration increases.

You can also reauthor many HD rips as BD-player compliant AVC yourself without re-encoding but the process is fiddly and there isn't yet any one-click app which will do the job for you.

http://brothers_grim.webs.com/bd/index.html

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-03-2008 07:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
One private tracker claims to have over 200 titles already but site rules prevent me from naming it. Expect this format to become more commonplace as BD player market penetration increases.

You can also reauthor many HD rips as BD-player compliant AVC yourself without re-encoding but the process is fiddly and there isn't yet any one-click app which will do the job for you.

http://brothers_grim.webs.com/bd/index.html

I'm sure I'm going to word this wrong, but you'll get the drift, lol.

I like one click appz because there easy, I still like DVD Shrink, lol.

There are one click appz out that convert the .x264 to mp4 which it doesn't touch the video it just fucks with the audio. Take it from 5.1 to 2.0 which sucks but with my system I can't complain and I can play them on the Xbox 360

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Posted by Mother on 12-03-2008 09:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
How about this it's a Blu-Ray player you fucking git

Sorry para, it's a Blu-ray Disc player (the 'R' is never capitalised), hence 'BD'.

But at least you're not as ignorant as the QVC presenter I saw talking about the quality of "Blu-ray DVDs".

Posted by Bakkoda on 12-04-2008 05:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by doctor zoidy
as i was typing that i thought to myself "good lord, its time for a new rig!"

i hadn't realized its been about 2 years since my last upgrades... oh well, pricing out a quad core phenom wtih 8gig ram and a 512mb radeon 4000 HD series card... might be a good christmas after all. come to think of it, that'll probably speed up my encoding time just a bit too...

I just dropped 1.5g on a q9550/hd4870/8GB 1066/4x640gb 32mb satas/giga ud3p/+++. Had toyed around with purchasing an i7 but I am always skeptical of grabbing parts so close to launch date. plus intel is due to release yet another socket, a mainstream version of the i7 so they say.

Last rig was almost 3 years old and it didnt even feel like it but prices are so damn cheap I just had to.

Posted by Ripper on 12-05-2008 08:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by doctor zoidy
how much machine do you have if you're playing 1080p .264 files? I've got severe stuttering on a sample i downloaded as a test, and that's on a athlon 64 3200 @ 2.2GHz, 2gb ram, radeon x1300 256mb graphics...

I guess its probably time for an upgrade, but what're you using?

Stuttering is due to your pc not being, good enough to play em or may just be your video card i had the same issue on my pent 4 playing 1080p films (full blue ray films not rips)

On the dell xps i can play anything perfect no stuttering or any probs, titles i have tested are

A View from Space - with Heavenly Music (2006) HDDVD 1080p AC3 (8 Audio)
IMAX_-_Fighter.Pilot.Operation.Red.Flag.1080p.BluRay.DTS

Both these are around 12 gig each give or take

Also have the 30 odd gig dark knight as well and plays sweet

And that was using an external drive through usb 2
Saying that my dell is using 8gig 800mhz ram and is using the vista 64bit with 2 tb of hard drive using raid config

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-05-2008 10:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripper
Stuttering is due to your pc not being, good enough to play em or may just be your video card i had the same issue on my pent 4 playing 1080p films (full blue ray films not rips)

On the dell xps i can play anything perfect no stuttering or any probs, titles i have tested are

A View from Space - with Heavenly Music (2006) HDDVD 1080p AC3 (8 Audio)
IMAX_-_Fighter.Pilot.Operation.Red.Flag.1080p.BluRay.DTS

Both these are around 12 gig each give or take

Also have the 30 odd gig dark knight as well and plays sweet

And that was using an external drive through usb 2
Saying that my dell is using 8gig 800mhz ram and is using the vista 64bit with 2 tb of hard drive using raid config

Misread your post, lol.

You're not the first person to say 64bit os for 1080p movies, Do they run butter with a 64 bit os?

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Posted by Ripper on 12-05-2008 03:17 PM:

Check computer section gonna do a write up been slacking this week

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Posted by pHo on 12-08-2008 02:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bakkoda
I just dropped 1.5g on a q9550/hd4870/8GB 1066/4x640gb 32mb satas/giga ud3p/+++. Had toyed around with purchasing an i7 but I am always skeptical of grabbing parts so close to launch date. plus intel is due to release yet another socket, a mainstream version of the i7 so they say.

Last rig was almost 3 years old and it didnt even feel like it but prices are so damn cheap I just had to.

Oh yeah? I just snagged a Dual P3-1ghz for £4.99. Fear that

My HTPC seems to be struggling with 1080P all of a sudden, so naturally someones been pissing about with it. Therefore, I'll be using the 'iron fist' as a punishment. It's every bit as bad as it sounds.

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Posted by Bakkoda on 12-08-2008 03:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
Oh yeah? I just snagged a Dual P3-1ghz for £4.99. Fear that

My HTPC seems to be struggling with 1080P all of a sudden, so naturally someones been pissing about with it. Therefore, I'll be using the 'iron fist' as a punishment. It's every bit as bad as it sounds.

My old rig still had an AGP slot

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-08-2008 03:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bakkoda
My old rig still had an AGP slot

My current rig does

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Posted by pHo on 12-08-2008 06:07 PM:

Yeah, AGP is still pretty common.

The P3 is a server so has no AGP, and 2 PCI slots (more for expandability than graphics mind).

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Posted by doctor zoidy on 12-16-2008 10:49 PM:

Well, luck fell into my lap... a deploying soldier dumped his desktop on me in favor of his laptop and said do what you will... all for the low low price of free:

hp m8000n media center
athlon 64 x2 5200
4gb pc2-4200
500 gb drive
dual hauppauge tuner
BFG nvidia 8600 gts oc graphics

already ripped vista 32 out and put in vista 64, 1080p plays sooooooo smoothly... put the cccp pack on, running it through media center.

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Thats alot of words for someone that sells DVDs out of the back of a truck

quote:
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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-17-2008 04:40 PM:

If anyone is interested in a standalone MKV player, this might be an answer.

http://www.everythingusb.com/wester...ayer-15594.html

I'm seriously considering getting one, most of the reviews are rather good for it.

A pretty good review

http://maddhat.com/?p=31

Posted by Bakkoda on 12-17-2008 07:20 PM:

A far as the WD HD player, Id wait for a new firmware. I did not like it one bit. Some files played perfectly and some did not. No difference in packing, codec or container. Just luck fo the draw. Menu was nice but a little slow, seeking/searching was god awful but worked (if you can call 20 sec pauses working). Id also have to suggest a universal remote with it as the included one blows donkey dick. Did not get to look at the supported drive specs, IE filesystems. Lets hope its better than Xbox360s (no ntfs??? wtf)

For those of you running AGP or low end/old systems, try upgrading to the newest nvidia drivers, 180.11. I tossed em on my old AGP/archlinux box before i dismantled it and all of a sudden its playin 1080p @ 75% cpu usage. Spikes to 100% every so often and filters just destroy it but it plays em.

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