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*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE RULES WILL BE BANNED ***

NFO is wrong it states dvd9 and its not, and secondly if this is untouched i'm Micheal fuckin Jackson.

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Im with Micheal , bitrate takes a dive to the low 3000s but quality is still more than watachble.

I will post the banner now...

*** STAY AWAY FROM THIS RELEASE ***

The encoding is SO bad, that I can't distinguish whether it's DVD Shrink or DVD X-Copy or what they used... The menu looks awful also. Almost looks like they took the XViD and went to DVD (which I know isn't the case, but it's that bad).

But they DID not say it was untouched, just the "extras" which there are none of.

This movie should just stay as a DVD-9... For those that don't have the dual layer burners, get one... They're SO cheap. Discs are not bad either now when they're on sale. Especially considering you have a 1:1 copy. Or just buy the movie... I know, crazy talk here...

But even without the menu and everything stripped, you can't even obtain a 3000kbit/sec average. Just to prove it, (3000+448)*186*60/8 = 4809960KB, where the max before authoring is 4485000KB (roughly, depending on the length of movie, but THAT is the +/- 10meg).

So, there is NO real point of a DVD-5 of this movie IMO. Maybe someone will do a 2-disc switcher... IF that is the case, I hope they include a MDS and instructions on making it back into one DVD-9 (for the others )...

This release gets a giant 1/10... The 1 is for magically winning the race...

Agreed this release is terrible. Wait for a dvd-9. 1/6/7

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Originally posted by Striped
NFO is wrong it states dvd9 and its not, and secondly if this is untouched i'm Micheal fuckin Jackson.

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Originally posted by porco556
I will post the banner now...

*** STAY AWAY FROM THIS RELEASE ***

The encoding is SO bad, that I can't distinguish whether it's DVD Shrink or DVD X-Copy or what they used... The menu looks awful also. Almost looks like they took the XViD and went to DVD (which I know isn't the case, but it's that bad).

But they DID not say it was untouched, just the "extras" which there are none of.

This movie should just stay as a DVD-9... For those that don't have the dual layer burners, get one... They're SO cheap. Discs are not bad either now when they're on sale. Especially considering you have a 1:1 copy. Or just buy the movie... I know, crazy talk here...

But even without the menu and everything stripped, you can't even obtain a 3000kbit/sec average. Just to prove it, (3000+448)*186*60/8 = 4809960KB, where the max before authoring is 4485000KB (roughly, depending on the length of movie, but THAT is the +/- 10meg).

So, there is NO real point of a DVD-5 of this movie IMO. Maybe someone will do a 2-disc switcher... IF that is the case, I hope they include a MDS and instructions on making it back into one DVD-9 (for the others )...

This release gets a giant 1/10... The 1 is for magically winning the race...

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Originally posted by elamericano
This is a big one, the extras are there, there is a "making of" VW toureg comercial and another "see more of NYC" which you can choose straight from the menu, had that been removed it wouldn't improve the video much more, PowerDVD says bitrate is 2.93, did not bother to check anything else....

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Originally posted by porco556
I will post the banner now...

*** STAY AWAY FROM THIS RELEASE ***

The encoding is SO bad, that I can't distinguish whether it's DVD Shrink or DVD X-Copy or what they used... The menu looks awful also. Almost looks like they took the XViD and went to DVD (which I know isn't the case, but it's that bad).

But they DID not say it was untouched, just the "extras" which there are none of.

This movie should just stay as a DVD-9... For those that don't have the dual layer burners, get one... They're SO cheap. Discs are not bad either now when they're on sale. Especially considering you have a 1:1 copy. Or just buy the movie... I know, crazy talk here...

But even without the menu and everything stripped, you can't even obtain a 3000kbit/sec average. Just to prove it, (3000+448)*186*60/8 = 4809960KB, where the max before authoring is 4485000KB (roughly, depending on the length of movie, but THAT is the +/- 10meg).

So, there is NO real point of a DVD-5 of this movie IMO. Maybe someone will do a 2-disc switcher... IF that is the case, I hope they include a MDS and instructions on making it back into one DVD-9 (for the others )...

This release gets a giant 1/10... The 1 is for magically winning the race...

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Originally posted by porco556
You are right, which is even more disturbing. I cancelled my transfer PDQ after seeing the quality. I guess the extras were the 72megs worth in VOB2 (more of NYC) was and 9megs in VOB3 (VW commercial)... Just guessing though.

But 2.93mbit/sec is also impossible. Can't trust PowerDVD on that one. I've had PowerDVD once tell me video was 5.1mbit, when I did the encode myself at 4700kbit... Actual calculation for this release would be 2.62mbit/sec... But I am NOT trying to fight. Either way it doesn't matter as this release is circling the drain on it's way to nukeville. Curious to see what happens, especially since the 3000 is impossible. Let's see what CCE can do Come on Replica

No matter what though, this release will look much shittier than the DVD-9.

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howdy

I just have 32" w/screen TV, but this release looks fine to me

I guess u must all be watching it on your 8 foot plasmas, but to us mere mortals this release is good

thought the movie was a pale shadow of its Black n White grand-daddy tho

v9/a9/m4

tN

Thanks for the release bocca, renting it and ripping it to DVD5 w/DVDshrink is all I would have done anyways, saves me the trouble.. as the film itself wasn't good enough to buy, they aleady got me for $75 at the theater.. it doesn't deserve any more.
As far as the bitrate goes, sometimes I convert 2 or 3 movies and put 'em on 1 disc and i'm satisfied with playback.. and I know i'm not the only one out there who does it, so a low bitrate is fine with some of us.

LMZ

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Originally posted by lickmyzack
Thanks for the release bocca, renting it and ripping it to DVD5 w/DVDshrink is all I would have done anyways, saves me the trouble.. as the film itself wasn't good enough to buy, they aleady got me for $75 at the theater.. it doesn't deserve any more.
As far as the bitrate goes, sometimes I convert 2 or 3 movies and put 'em on 1 disc and i'm satisfied with playback.. and I know i'm not the only one out there who does it, so a low bitrate is fine with some of us.

LMZ

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Originally posted by lickmyzack
Thanks for the release bocca, renting it and ripping it to DVD5 w/DVDshrink is all I would have done anyways, saves me the trouble.. as the film itself wasn't good enough to buy, they aleady got me for $75 at the theater.. it doesn't deserve any more.
As far as the bitrate goes, sometimes I convert 2 or 3 movies and put 'em on 1 disc and i'm satisfied with playback.. and I know i'm not the only one out there who does it, so a low bitrate is fine with some of us.

LMZ

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I believe there should be a few releases of movies this long, a DVD5, a DVD9, and maybe 2DVD5's.
Not everyone is completely anal about quality, i know i am, but 80% of people i know, can tell the difference between a bitrate of 2000 and 8000.
Also most people dont want to pay for DL discs or change discs half way through, also 4gb is bad enough for most, never mind 7-8Gb, though i feel a good 3CD XviD will look better than a 4gb mpeg.

Rating this, it looks fine considering, but if you have high standards then i would avoid and buy it if DVD9's arent ur thing.

7/9/?

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Originally posted by porco556
I will post the banner now...

*** STAY AWAY FROM THIS RELEASE ***

The encoding is SO bad, that I can't distinguish whether it's DVD Shrink or DVD X-Copy or what they used... The menu looks awful also. Almost looks like they took the XViD and went to DVD (which I know isn't the case, but it's that bad).

But they DID not say it was untouched, just the "extras" which there are none of.

This movie should just stay as a DVD-9... For those that don't have the dual layer burners, get one... They're SO cheap. Discs are not bad either now when they're on sale. Especially considering you have a 1:1 copy. Or just buy the movie... I know, crazy talk here...

But even without the menu and everything stripped, you can't even obtain a 3000kbit/sec average. Just to prove it, (3000+448)*186*60/8 = 4809960KB, where the max before authoring is 4485000KB (roughly, depending on the length of movie, but THAT is the +/- 10meg).

So, there is NO real point of a DVD-5 of this movie IMO. Maybe someone will do a 2-disc switcher... IF that is the case, I hope they include a MDS and instructions on making it back into one DVD-9 (for the others )...

This release gets a giant 1/10... The 1 is for magically winning the race...

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Originally posted by _jadakiss
$75 fuckin dollars.. wtf ... fuck outta of heea... i wouldnt pay that much for a movie... hope you mean $7.50.. wich is what i payed here in CALIFORNIA... anyways.. back to the movie.. hmmm .... looks horrible... kinda reminds me of CCAT release of Flight Plan.. guess that happens when you rush to pre it and be the first group to release it.. smh ... how does one check the bitrate on this dvd ?


Video-4
Audio-9
Movie-9

will wait for a proper or dvd9

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Originally posted by lickmyzack
2 Adults
4 Kids
Popcorn, Candy, Drinks and Hotdogs

$74.83

It wasn't a typo

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Oh yeah, this is a one-clicker transcode. Using Ahead Nero.

Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name KING_KONG
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero

DOITFAST gives me a 2672k avg on this transcode.

Ya this is crap-ola

is there such thing as a dvd5 xvid. id rather burn an xvid to dvd than cd and have to flip between discs..

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Originally posted by kling0n
is there such thing as a dvd5 xvid. id rather burn an xvid to dvd than cd and have to flip between discs..

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Originally posted by kling0n
is there such thing as a dvd5 xvid. id rather burn an xvid to dvd than cd and have to flip between discs..

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cant remember if the end credits are white text over black but if they are these need encoding at .8mbit avg with a max of 1.2
that will save 200+mb of space for the movie portion
And with a bit of avisynth filtering here and there it should look pretty good., well alot better than this release anyway.

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BALLS

Had this downloading last night, woke up this morning to find out it was nuked, flipped through the img, I can see the pulsing that redemption1980 was talking about, doesn't ifoedit have an option in vob extras to split a dvd9 onto 2 dvd5s? Wouldn't that have been even quicker than recoding it with nero? I'm definitely gonna wait for a version done by a group that doesn't brag about doing 50 internals in their nfos...

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Originally posted by Happy13178
4/9/8.... How did you get (3000+448)*186*60/8....I get the 3000kb, the 186 minutes of film, and divided by 8 for kb/KB...what are the other numbers?

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Has anyone who criticised this release actually watched it, in full I mean? I have, all three hours. There were two or three glitches on my DVD-RW test burn which might not have had anything to do with the transfer. Apart from that the picture and sound quality was fine.

Personally I don't care what the bitrate was, I was watching the movie not the bit rate counter. Who makes these "rules" anyway? Every rip is stolen property to begin with so at best any rules are merely "honor among thieves".

I haven't liked any Peter Jackson film up till now so there was no way I was going to pay money for this one. Now thanks to Bocca I was able to watch it for free. Turned out to be the best movie I've ever seen. Sure I would have preferred a break at the half way stage plus a DTS soundtrack and if one becomes available I'll download that. In the meantime I'm perfectly happy with this release as I suspect will be most people who watch it.

10/10/10

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Originally posted by ntscuser
Has anyone who criticised this release actually watched it, in full I mean? I have, all three hours. There were two or three glitches on my DVD-RW test burn which might not have had anything to do with the transfer. Apart from that the picture and sound quality was fine.

Personally I don't care what the bitrate was, I was watching the movie not the bit rate counter. Who makes these "rules" anyway? Every rip is stolen property to begin with so at best any rules are merely "honor among thieves".

I haven't liked any Peter Jackson film up till now so there was no way I was going to pay money for this one. Now thanks to Bocca I was able to watch it for free. Turned out to be the best movie I've ever seen. Sure I would have preferred a break at the half way stage plus a DTS soundtrack and if one becomes available I'll download that. In the meantime I'm perfectly happy with this release as I suspect will be most people who watch it.

10/10/10

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Originally posted by elamericano
I am not trying to pick a fight, but I rate the releases based on other releases of the same category, SO, for a DVD the video is not good, and its not, period, now is it watchable? of course its watchable, its slightly better then an XViD, and thats the truth, if this was an Mpeg 4 encode, I would give it a 9, for the video because it deserves that, but this is not an Xvid release, this is a DVD and for a DVD you have to expect more.....now, TY BoCCa admirable effort

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ntscuser, My rating was based on the first 20-30mins of the release, as i gave up at that point, and decided i would wait for a better release as the pulsating and blockiness was distracting me too much for me to properly concentrate, i am quite fussy and this reminded me of what most of the UK's Digital TV looks like.

porco556, you meaning this, which is in the 2005 rules.

"Minimum average bitrate allowed is 3000 kbit/s (2800 kbit/s for tv show). If minimum average bitrate cannot be achieved, a valid explanation is required in the NFO."

Not sure an explanation is needed, as the movie length should be the explanation, but it doesnt apply to this release anyway, as proper use of CCE and avisynth would produce better results than is on this release.

As i said earlier, probably acceptable for most people, but TBH most people are happy with a 700mb XviD of most movies, there has to be some sort of quality control or it would turn into a mess.

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Originally posted by Redemption1980
Not sure an explanation is needed, as the movie length should be the explanation, but it doesnt apply to this release anyway, as proper use of CCE and avisynth would produce better results than is on this release.

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I'm not as smart as some of the people on here, but this dvd is a great rip for me intill the retail comes out.

9/9/10

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There were no pulsing or other video artefacts visible on my monitor. Believe me I am very sensitive to that sort thing and would have noticed. I suspect different players and monitors react to this particular transfer in different ways. For the record I was playing on a Pioneer DV-575A and watching on a LG 32" W/S tube set.

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Originally posted by ntscuser
So is your opinion based on having actually watched all three hours of this release or is it based on what you think the almighty bitrate figure should be?

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is it me or is that dodgy screener/rip whatever it was by god better quality than this? how soon till we get a proper kong dvd rip? at this rate it looks like we will be waiting for the retail.

Looks Fine

I burned it and watched it. It looked good to me. I think peoples opinions are like buying a video card. Nvidia is supposed to be the best (Which I agree). But an ATI card can do all the same things a Nvidia card can do. The only way to tell the difference is to benchmark the two. In real world you could not tell them apart. Same with this movie. It looks good when watched on a TV. You people just overreact to shit.

well screeners are generally movie only, so it would make sense that the quality of that would be a bit better. i really dont think youll get a better quality retail rls than this on 1xdvd5.

edit: I just watched the entire movie on my 32" 1080i hdtv. didnt noticed any artifacts or discrepancies. I give the video an 8. surprised it looked so good for the length.