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Posted by X69 on 03-24-2006 09:54 PM:


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Posted by gezzer on 03-24-2006 10:26 PM:

Good for a cam based on sample scored as cam v8/s7/m8


Posted by savman on 03-24-2006 10:47 PM:

not bad at all for first release

v7

a 6

m 9

thanks wuf for this release


Posted by Anjuna on 03-24-2006 10:57 PM:

From sample:

V: 10 - for a cam (and first release) this is excellent
A: 8 - bit of background hiss and a bit hollow but more than good enough
M: ?

Excellent release!


Posted by Horton on 03-24-2006 10:58 PM:

Have you people watched this release? its fucking horrible.

Video - 4 - Crap, way blue and way pixelated.

Audio - 3 - VERY harsh, overbass, etc, almost inaudible at times

Movie - ? - looks g ood, waiting for a better copy.


Posted by lifeblog on 03-24-2006 11:42 PM:

nice for first and pretty quick release!

v - 7
a - 5
m - ?


Posted by me-self on 03-24-2006 11:58 PM:

This is from the sample.

V: 5(not bad but very white, cropped on top,to much brightness and grainy but watchable)

S:3 (On the sample there was a hiss all the time and its very hollow, the hiss is just anoying)

F:? looks gd, waiting for better copy.


Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 03-25-2006 12:05 AM:

downlaoded first rar.....:

v: 3 zoomed in to fuck, half the screen missing ewither side
a: 4 way dodgy
v: will wait for decent copy

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Posted by paradise_island on 03-25-2006 12:14 AM:

v/6 a LITTLE croped
a/5 a little hard to hear durning loud scenes and does have a hollow sound
m/?

over all not bad at all for first release especially so quickly.

i think most of you are a litte screwed it is not as bad as some of you post but then again options are like assholes we all have one,but i think this release is def watchable..and as far as based on sample goes i dont know where you got your samples but i see it as nuked for no sample.....but still decent nothing less

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Posted by me-self on 03-25-2006 12:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by paradise_island
v/6 a LITTLE croped
a/5 a little hard to hear durning loud scenes and does have a hollow sound
m/?

over all not bad at all for first release especially so quickly.

i think most of you are a litte screwed it is not as bad as some of you post but then again options are like assholes we all have one,but i think this release is def watchable..and as far as based on sample goes i dont know where you got your samples but i see it as nuked for no sample.....but still decent nothing less



wuf-im.sample.mpg, found it quiet easily, about 20MB


Posted by wwwldw2 on 03-25-2006 04:17 AM:

WHATS THE PROBLEM

I dont quite understand why people get so indignit when it comes to rating these movies. Has anyone ever thought that all tv's and home theatre systems are not created equal. and neither are the cables that you hook them up with. This is why you get such a variation in sound and audio quality. There is a reason why a 30 in regular tv cost a hell of alot less than a 30 in plasma/lcd/ hdtv. So stop complaining and debating on who is right and who is wrong on movie quality, you all are. For those who find the quality is aliitle worse on there tv verses the quality on someone elses system, well upgrade sometimes something as little as a s-cable can make all the difference in the world. And for those of you who have tv's so old that you need a converter box just to hook your dvd player up, well you are just shit out of luck, and will always get a lesser quality picture and sound. just a little knowledge from someone who knows


Posted by PMAtreides on 03-25-2006 05:11 AM:

Wink the sample....

does not look that bad..........it clear, and I can hear everything.....so from the sample, its pretty decent.....


Posted by BoxyBrown on 03-25-2006 06:06 AM:

Re: WHATS THE PROBLEM

quote:
Originally posted by wwwldw2
I dont quite understand why people get so indignit when it comes to rating these movies. Has anyone ever thought that all tv's and home theatre systems are not created equal. and neither are the cables that you hook them up with. This is why you get such a variation in sound and audio quality. There is a reason why a 30 in regular tv cost a hell of alot less than a 30 in plasma/lcd/ hdtv. So stop complaining and debating on who is right and who is wrong on movie quality, you all are. For those who find the quality is aliitle worse on there tv verses the quality on someone elses system, well upgrade sometimes something as little as a s-cable can make all the difference in the world. And for those of you who have tv's so old that you need a converter box just to hook your dvd player up, well you are just shit out of luck, and will always get a lesser quality picture and sound. just a little knowledge from someone who knows


Yeah! Let's take this 480x480 SVCD and display it on a 1920x1080 panel! That'll do the trick. You're obvisouly someone who DOESN'T know. There's a job waiting for you at Best Buy.


Posted by movie-king on 03-25-2006 06:55 AM:

Pic croped but it ok for for a cam

RATES FOT A CAM

5,5,

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Posted by vcd101 on 03-25-2006 10:02 AM:

fast release !!! as a cam video 7 audio 5 . looks like a ctp cam with that blue tint...lol


Posted by habsfan2 on 03-25-2006 10:19 AM:

very crappy release. My eyes and head still hurt of watching this.

v: 3
a: 2
m:7


Posted by mazy on 03-25-2006 10:56 AM:

wtf

wwwldw2 is right i have a a couple of tvs and the quality shown on 1 of them on this movie inside man is totally crap yet veiwing it on the other its good so
BoxyBrown i suggest you get you fact right before slagging other members off also there a supervisors job waiting for you at Best Buy.

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Posted by wwwldw2 on 03-25-2006 06:34 PM:

PAY ATTENTION

BOXY BROWN,

I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TRYING TO VIEW A SVCD ON A 50 OR 60 INCH SCREEN. WHAT I SAID WAS IN ESSENCE THAT YOU WILL GET A BETTER PICTURE AND SOUND ON A NEWER BETTER QUALITY TV. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT BECAUSE I HAVE 5 TV'S IN MY HOUSE AND MY OLDER TV'S PLAY THIS MOVIE LIKE CRAP, BOTH SOUND AND VIDEO, WHERE AS MY NEWER HDTV IS VERY WATCHABLE. I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE, JUST TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. AND BY THE WAY, I AM A ENGINEER FOR PANASONIC


Posted by Tris on 03-25-2006 06:42 PM:

Am in process of getting this release right now, but just watched the sample and was very impressed. This is one of the more watchable cams I've seen in a long time. Sure it is a little too blue, but it hasn't been labelled as a ts or tc. In fact, the audio is the only thing that separates it quality wise from a lot of ts releases.

v-9
a-6
m-lookin good so far


Posted by josh_rs on 03-25-2006 06:43 PM:

From sample:

V: 7
A: 6
M: Still DL

Video is clear, despite a little washed out. Audio is a bit too low, but pretty decent and understandable. A little hollow, but it's usual in a cam. I would even give a 8/8, comparing to some Prevail's cams, like emily rose. Just don't know why a 3 cds svcd , it would make no big difference a 2 cd vcd.

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Posted by deano21 on 03-25-2006 07:21 PM:

Shit cam too blue

6/4/? looks good will g to cinema

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Posted by garvey100 on 03-25-2006 07:24 PM:

Re: WHATS THE PROBLEM

quote:
Originally posted by wwwldw2
I dont quite understand why people get so indignit when it comes to rating these movies. Has anyone ever thought that all tv's and home theatre systems are not created equal. and neither are the cables that you hook them up with. This is why you get such a variation in sound and audio quality. There is a reason why a 30 in regular tv cost a hell of alot less than a 30 in plasma/lcd/ hdtv. So stop complaining and debating on who is right and who is wrong on movie quality, you all are. For those who find the quality is aliitle worse on there tv verses the quality on someone elses system, well upgrade sometimes something as little as a s-cable can make all the difference in the world. And for those of you who have tv's so old that you need a converter box just to hook your dvd player up, well you are just shit out of luck, and will always get a lesser quality picture and sound. just a little knowledge from someone who knows


You must know a lot buddy. Given that a film looks and sounds infintely better on my 32" bog standard widescreen with just dual channel that my friends 40" plus tv with surround where it looks pixellated to hell and the sound obviously goes crazy. Stop talking crap and actually think about what you are saying. You dont need an expensive system to play ANY SVCD Cam or TS release and get as good a picture as you are going to get.
Not bad but seen better as for the release
6/5/?


Posted by T-H-E-W-H-O on 03-25-2006 08:21 PM:

hrmmm wayyyy to zoomed in, audio is standard cam shittery. Props on being the first group, but other than that.... nothing too special here.

5/6/?


Posted by bstard on 03-25-2006 08:53 PM:

inside man

bad croppin audio sux videa aint much better but for 1st post it better than the rest rofl


Posted by wwwldw2 on 03-26-2006 12:09 AM:

CHILL OUT

WHY IN THE HELL IS EVERYONE PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH. I NEVER ONCE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A MORE EXPENSIVE TV. I SAID QUALITY. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING COST MORE DOESNT NECESSARILY MEAN IT IS BETTER QUALITY. WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT YOU PAID MORE FOR THE BRAND NAME. NOW I ALSO DIDNT SAY TO COMPARE A 19 IN. PICTURE TUBE TV WITH A 60 IN. PLASMA. WHAT I SAID IS I HAVE 5 TV'S RANGING IN SIZE FROM 20 IN TO 42 INCHES. 2 OLDER AND 3 NEWER. I GET MUCH BETTER PICTURE AND SOUND PLAYING SVCD, DVIX, MPEG AVI FORMATTED FILMS ON MY 3 NEWER TV'S WHICH HAVE ALL THE APPROPRIATE AUDIO AND VIDEO CABLE HOOK-UPS INCORPORATED INTO THE TV'S THAN I GET ON MY OLDER TV'S WHICH NEED CONVERTER BOXES IN ORDER TO EVEN CONNECT A DVD OR THEATER SYSTEM. THAT WAS ALL I SAID. WHICH GAVE REASON TO WHY SO MANY PEOPLE HAD DIFFERENT OPINONS ON THE QUALITY OF THIS PARTICULAR MOVIE. I AM NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH ANY ONE


Posted by dontgiveafuck on 03-26-2006 02:14 AM:

the video is only zoomed in for the first 3 minutes.

for the audio, you need to play with the equalizer to mute out the rumbling noises.


oh, and the movie sucked ass. 5/10


Posted by stillsick on 03-26-2006 03:00 AM:

It's only the first 6:45 that's zoomed and cropped.

Watchable first release, good enough if you HAVE TO see it right now.

6/4/?


Posted by MattG on 03-26-2006 03:06 AM:

All of you guys complaining about it being too blue? If you'd actually already seen the film, you'd realize it was made in kind of a bluish tint. Dunno why, but it was.


Posted by Scotster on 03-26-2006 08:43 AM:

When you guys quote your ratings do you realise you are quoting a cam? Have any of you ever given a CAM 10 for video or audio? Whats the highest rating you have ever given? A 7 maybe? If thats the case then the 7 in relation to top scores is a 10 and everything below that drops a grade. I see a lot of you writing 5 out of 10 for a cam etc but this is wayyyyyyyy better than most cams that come onto VCDquality. The audio also aint bad at all. Now accross the board this movie would probably get a 5/10 for video and 4/10 for audio but for a cam its good for at least an 8/10 for vid and 7/10 for audio.

If your going to use ratings (and moan a lot about them) at least have half a clue about what you are actually doing.

Scotster


Posted by on 03-26-2006 10:18 AM:

Re: CHILL OUT

quote:
Originally posted by wwwldw2
WHY IN THE HELL IS EVERYONE PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH. I NEVER ONCE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A MORE EXPENSIVE TV. I SAID QUALITY. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING COST MORE DOESNT NECESSARILY MEAN IT IS BETTER QUALITY. WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT YOU PAID MORE FOR THE BRAND NAME. NOW I ALSO DIDNT SAY TO COMPARE A 19 IN. PICTURE TUBE TV WITH A 60 IN. PLASMA. WHAT I SAID IS I HAVE 5 TV'S RANGING IN SIZE FROM 20 IN TO 42 INCHES. 2 OLDER AND 3 NEWER. I GET MUCH BETTER PICTURE AND SOUND PLAYING SVCD, DVIX, MPEG AVI FORMATTED FILMS ON MY 3 NEWER TV'S WHICH HAVE ALL THE APPROPRIATE AUDIO AND VIDEO CABLE HOOK-UPS INCORPORATED INTO THE TV'S THAN I GET ON MY OLDER TV'S WHICH NEED CONVERTER BOXES IN ORDER TO EVEN CONNECT A DVD OR THEATER SYSTEM. THAT WAS ALL I SAID. WHICH GAVE REASON TO WHY SO MANY PEOPLE HAD DIFFERENT OPINONS ON THE QUALITY OF THIS PARTICULAR MOVIE. I AM NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH ANY ONE


please stfu. thanks

quote:
Originally posted by Scotster
When you guys quote your ratings do you realise you are quoting a cam? Have any of you ever given a CAM 10 for video or audio? Whats the highest rating you have ever given? A 7 maybe? If thats the case then the 7 in relation to top scores is a 10 and everything below that drops a grade. I see a lot of you writing 5 out of 10 for a cam etc but this is wayyyyyyyy better than most cams that come onto VCDquality. The audio also aint bad at all. Now accross the board this movie would probably get a 5/10 for video and 4/10 for audio but for a cam its good for at least an 8/10 for vid and 7/10 for audio.

If your going to use ratings (and moan a lot about them) at least have half a clue about what you are actually doing.

Scotster



people are using different rating systems. some rate them based on cams, and some rate like you. been a problem for a while.

6/6/6


Posted by funeralfoguk on 03-26-2006 02:25 PM:

v: 6
a: 6
m: 8

not a bad release not sure why they bothered with a svcd tho.


Posted by White Rabbit on 03-26-2006 04:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by funeralfoguk
not a bad release not sure why they bothered with a svcd tho.


the only things i dislike on releases is when its blurry or pixelated

for some reason, i really like more or less all the non-reencoded svcd cams. just as long as it isnt pixelated or blurry then thats all im worried about. plus i hate overfiltered sound

v 7 (nice cam, little grainy, but that gives it a nice look imo, little washed out but that doesnt bother me)

a 5.5-6 (very average for a cam)

m ? (if i knew more about it, i might get the full release)

thanks WUF

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Posted by DBXfirefly on 03-26-2006 08:47 PM:

video = 6 its a cam..what do u expect

audio = 4 also typical crappy cam audio


this thread = 9 for the humour of such kids pissing up each others backs.

movie = 8

its jodie


Posted by waddleowl on 03-27-2006 12:13 AM:

Aint seen the copy but just been to pics o see it.
Awesome film! Really enjoyed it.


Posted by Smoka on 03-27-2006 05:56 AM:

Gotta love people with an opinion and like to argue it on the internet. Noone cares what anyone else thinks on internet forums. This site is for rating movies, not pushing your opinions on people. Just rate the f'ing movie and keep your opinions to yourself. Flame me if you will but don't expect a response.

7/7/? - Decent CAM, very watchable if your not a picky jackass.


Posted by ol_perfesser on 03-28-2006 01:21 PM:

Back to rating the movie - what do you expect from a cam?
Watchable, but not perfect. Cropped at first, not a good angle. Hand over camera twice during early part, then a head covering lower left for a couple of minutes...
Sound leaves a lot to be desired. Music drowns out dialog often, have to keep adjusting sound to hear Denzel...
Good movie, I'll have to see it again when the DVD comes out.

5/4/8

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