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Posted by antihero on 01-27-2007 10:25 AM:

Live Free or Die Hard

I think I just pissed myself!

I really, really hope this doesnt suck. Directed by Len Wiseman, so it stands half a chance, there just better be no fucking werewolves in it.


Posted by Jules_Tavernier on 01-27-2007 12:09 PM:

http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.ph...&highlight=hard

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Posted by Sin on 01-27-2007 12:19 PM:

I love the whole crazy OTT action feel to it. If it takes this kinda half self depreciative tone, Ill enjoy the film.

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Posted by antihero on 01-27-2007 12:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jules_Tavernier
http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.ph...&highlight=hard


i do apologise.


Posted by Jules_Tavernier on 01-27-2007 12:45 PM:

Its a little bit late for apologies, this shit is unacceptable has has to stop now!

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Posted by antihero on 01-27-2007 04:39 PM:

Its never too late.

!too harsh!


Posted by OSH on 01-30-2007 11:34 PM:

Looks decent. I don't really remember the first ones to well. I was so young that they're vague in my mind. All I remember is dude from Family Matters (Carl) was in one, or two of them. I was never a die hard fan (no pun intended), who knows mayble this one will be worth checking out/remembering.

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Posted by antihero on 04-23-2007 04:32 PM:

new trailer!

cgi overdose, but i'm still gonna have to watch it

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Posted by bartleby on 04-23-2007 05:00 PM:

Do you want to say something? yippy ki ay mutha fucker

Will definatly be watching this.

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Posted by vanzan on 04-26-2007 11:49 PM:

Oh no the director is responsible for two awful werewolf movies.....


Posted by k0k0them0nkey on 04-27-2007 12:16 AM:

I love die hard. I really loved part 3 due to Samuel L. Jackson, but I'm not so sure about the new one. I'm going to have to see more on it to really get my bone growing over it.


Posted by joejackoff on 05-05-2007 09:23 PM:

omg this look like a bad ass movie i i just found out about it today holly shite


Posted by olddirtyogre on 05-05-2007 11:56 PM:

hate to be the bearer of bad news...

But Fox, the studio behind the flick is planning on releasing Live Free or Die Hard with a PG-13 slapped to it. They think that by having kids legally getting into the movie, they will make more money...which is probably true, but its the absolute wrong way to be making a Die hard movie.

All I can say is that if this does turn out to be PG-13, I just won't see it. I'll have to wait for the inevitable "Unrated Director's Cut" to see a real Die Hard movie.

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Posted by David Cameron on 05-06-2007 01:47 AM:

I want at least 3 Yippee Kai Ayy Muther Fuckers.

John McClane must say FUCK and SHIT every chance he gets. I don't expect him to say CUNT, I don't think he has ever said CUNT, even though CUNT is a great word, I still don't expect him to say CUNT.

FUCK and SHIT should be obligatory, as long as he doesn't say CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNTER CUNT CUNTO CUNTER, then whats the problem?


Posted by paralyzingking on 05-06-2007 04:27 AM:

You already got an early Yippee Kai Ayy Muther Fucker when he was drunk during the NBA playoffs talking about the movie. If you missed it you can see it here

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 05-06-2007 08:37 AM:

I wanna see it because it's Die Hard. Well it still looks like garbage. I loved the first three films so, Who know's.

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Posted by napalmfuzz on 05-07-2007 02:34 AM:

If it ends up PG-13, i'll erase from my memory that it was ever made.

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Posted by bartleby on 05-07-2007 02:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz
If it ends up PG-13, i'll erase from my memory that it was ever made.


Seconded...

This has got to be one of the only times i agree with Cupid !

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Posted by vanzan on 05-08-2007 04:39 PM:

Loved the first three movies myself...oh hang on the second one was shit...this one will, I predict, suck as well.


Posted by moveefreak on 06-05-2007 01:51 AM:

Die hard has never really dissapointed me.... 3 was iffy but they still pulled it out, this new one has alot of part one's dynamic.... I think it will be a thrill ride, as for the PG-13 raiting it wont hurt the movie...


Posted by punzada on 06-07-2007 04:19 AM:

I never looked into it hard enough but it is definitely a pg-13 rating yet?

Everywhere I've read, there has been no official source of this anywhere (that I've found at least) and almost any board I go to people are freaking the hell out that it's PG-13.

I can't see them *ever* making a 4th movie to a series of movies that every single one of them has been rated R and making the new one PG-13, it just makes no sense at all.


Posted by antihero on 06-07-2007 08:52 PM:

dont know where this pg-13 talk has come from.

The MPAA and CARA websites have it as being R rated.

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Posted by napalmfuzz on 06-09-2007 08:28 PM:

"Live free or die" is rated R... different movie.

this movie is still unrated. and from what people like bruce willis and anybody whos seen an advance screening has said. its definately PG-13

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Posted by Arthur Daily on 06-22-2007 02:47 AM:

heres the 1st 8 mins

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/18084.../standardformat

or click

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Posted by punzada on 06-22-2007 07:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by punzada
I never looked into it hard enough but it is definitely a pg-13 rating yet?

Everywhere I've read, there has been no official source of this anywhere (that I've found at least) and almost any board I go to people are freaking the hell out that it's PG-13.

I can't see them *ever* making a 4th movie to a series of movies that every single one of them has been rated R and making the new one PG-13, it just makes no sense at all.



eating my own words.

it's pg-13

I think I'm ready to cry


Posted by David Cameron on 06-30-2007 05:59 PM:

Yippee kai Ay Muther Faaa..... ???????

My memory of John Mclane has been raped.


Posted by bartleby on 06-30-2007 06:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cupidstunt
Yippee kai Ay Muther Faaa..... ???????

My memory of John Mclane has been raped.



Its a 15 in the uk

So was the third.

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Posted by napalmfuzz on 06-30-2007 10:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bartleby
Its a 15 in the uk

So was the third.



I dont see how that matters. It felt like i was watching it edited for tv. Let alone the "Yippee ka ya motherfu(gunshot)" scene, there were several scenes where you could tell they've went back and edited it. one scene you could even see him mouth the words "Motherfucker" and you could hear a quick cut voice over saying "Asshole" or some other such shit overtop of it.

They replaced the grittyness of the first few films with rediculously over the top CGI action sequences.

It might be passable as "OK" if we get an R rated directors cut on dvd. but as it stands its a very weak movie. I wanted to pop a roid while i was watching it.

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Posted by Munson on 07-01-2007 06:00 AM:

Thumbs up

Best action film of the year thus far, IMO.


Posted by David Cameron on 07-01-2007 11:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Munson
Best action film of the year thus far, IMO.


It was ok, I just don't think it should have been called Die Hard. It wasn't a Die Hard movie.


Posted by baha on 07-01-2007 07:55 PM:

Should've been called True Lies 2, not Die Hard 4.

Minor spoilers:

- the bit when he first meets and drags the kid outta the room, and there's glass shot up all over the floor...in Die Hard 4 there would've been cuts and blood galore...in True Lies 2 they get through unharmed.

- loved the lorry/plane bit, truly awesome action. In Die Hard 4 the pilot would've been toast, in True Lies 2 he ejects, we even see him land safely, tuck his parachute away, pull out a cuban and tuck into a spiffing spread of cucumber sandwiches and Earl Grey (made with already boiled mountain spring water).

True, I'd have preferred Carnahan directing and little Lucy to lose a finger to torture (or preferably one of the torturers to lose a finger up her )... but I'm a cheap whore for big action and good CGI...and this movie delivers

7/10 (if you're into popcorn munchers...if you're not why are you even reading this thread??!?)

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Posted by antihero on 07-02-2007 12:31 AM:

great film, but not up to the standards of the others.

not nearly enough swearing or violence, and feels to "diluted" to be included in the die hard vein.

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Posted by olddirtyogre on 07-02-2007 07:36 AM:

Yeah, I'm still holding out for an "unrated" DVD. I've read articles that Fox hired an EFX firm before the final cut had been made of this film to specifically add violence (blood) and the original dialog (swearing) back in. I think it's a big fucking cop out when a studio promises more of a movie on DVD than in it's theatrical run...oh well, a rental is cheaper than a movie ticket anyways.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 07-06-2007 05:27 PM:

The first and third are still the best, I loved Jackson in the third. He made it great.

But as this movie stands, It was as good as the second. Over the top CGI, but yeah still a good action flick. I liked it.


I watched Ghost Rider this week, It's on par with Superman Returns. Both utter shit.

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Posted by baha on 07-06-2007 08:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
The first and third are still the best, I loved Jackson in the third. He made it great.
Didn't like 3 at all. Original, goes without saying, is excellent. 2 wasn't quite as good, but still a very, very good action flick. 3 was very average IMO.

I'm a big Samuel fan (my sig and av are testament to that), but his presence only lifted the movie from forgettable to average.

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Posted by punzada on 07-07-2007 03:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by baha
Didn't like 3 at all. Original, goes without saying, is excellent. 2 wasn't quite as good, but still a very, very good action flick. 3 was very average IMO.

I'm a big Samuel fan (my sig and av are testament to that), but his presence only lifted the movie from forgettable to average.



I don't know, the beginning with him walking through harlem is something I'll surely never forget

I set the bar really low when I went into seeing this movie and it actually exceeded my expectations at all accounts, it has it's flaws like over the top CGI and too heavy 'zomg every hacker knows every system when they sit down at it," and much like die hard 3, they couldn't write a solid enough story with just bruce willas so they had to rely on the old "they're partners, and they're different, comedy will ensue!" ... which has just been played to death.

Decent popcorn action flick, bad die hard movie.


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