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Posted by Superxero on 07-13-2002 01:43 AM:

hmmm waiting for the jpeg this means it has to be good and yay its not internal!

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Posted by Vyrrus on 07-13-2002 02:20 AM:

Might not be internal but damn....I already got that one...I wonder if this one will be better. Not like this is a great movie...why cant we get Minority Report this many times decent TS/SVCD...anyways..fuck it..its free..bring it on...


Posted by d3llu$ionz on 07-13-2002 02:30 AM:

How weird I got this yesterday... Which is which, who's is who's... Calgon Take Me Away.

Men.In.Black.II.iNTERNAL.SVCD.TS-TCF


Posted by wowsa on 07-13-2002 02:34 AM:

höhöhö

this must be a re-encode of the tcf rel that was nuked cause it was out of sync... well i hope this is good.. . lookign for sample now...


Posted by napalmfuzz on 07-13-2002 02:53 AM:

ok just stop it.. this was a shitty movie.. we dont need 580 re-encodes of the same source.. noone gave a shit about the salton sea or minority report or actual good movies.. so please stop fucking releasing this movie

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Posted by devilbeast on 07-13-2002 03:14 AM:

Dude....shut up dont give that kind of crap in here, yea give ur opinion but not that bull shit. You arent releasing it they are leave em alone, maybe they couldnt get their hands on one of those other movies u wanted.....so they didnt rls one...god damn
and really this movie wasnt that bad i saw it at thtrs, just want a copy for ma home.


Posted by OzZyOz on 07-13-2002 03:17 AM:

Smile

First of all this movie does suck. Second of all why the hell are they propering it the Svcd Internal is possible to get there's no need for a proper. Just a new group trying to go somewhere wich I don't blame them for trying.


Posted by napalmfuzz on 07-13-2002 03:23 AM:

i mean after the first 93 TS releases of this movie.. anything short of a screener seems sort of futile to me

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Posted by Swimj on 07-13-2002 03:29 AM:

I agree

Dude im not gonna Flame i wanna strait up tell the Truth, VCDhell we dont need anymore propers, i can make a better proper myself with Tmpgnc, get ur own source and dont release it almost 2 weeks after its been in theaters thats all...


Posted by rappa on 07-13-2002 03:32 AM:

lol recode of TCF's internal. TCF's was internal bcuz they were just testing out there new PAL DV CAM. It was just like CTP's first SVCD TS, too bad VCDHELL recoded it cuz it was supposed to be bad, gj dalnet grp.


Posted by svenbob on 07-13-2002 03:34 AM:

This isn't from the same source, its actually from the TCS SVCD TS Internal release, totaly unrelated to the old TEG and Escoretic releases.

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Posted by ErBzZ on 07-13-2002 03:42 AM:

You sure they were tryin out the a pal cam?? cause i think they were using ntsc cause it was flickering.. but i dunno..


Posted by brr8760 on 07-13-2002 03:58 AM:

Any improvement of a major release is a good thing. To those who disagree, I respect your opinion, and hope to one day have the opportunity to shake your hand. (I always like to shake a guy's hand before I disembowel him with a rusty corkscrew).

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Posted by rappa on 07-13-2002 04:00 AM:

I disregard my earlier statement, THIS IS NOT A RECODE, i dled this and the other internal and watched the begginings, in TCF'S the camera shakes really bad at the start, in this is its fine. GJ VcdHell, keep up the good work.


Posted by Mind_Detonator on 07-13-2002 04:08 AM:

well! just by watching the jpgs i would say that the *PROPER* release from ESOTERiC is better than this one!! i'll just keep with that!!!


Posted by b0nk3r on 07-13-2002 05:15 AM:

ÛÛÛÛ²° NOTES: Here is a non-internal, non-out of sync °²ÛÛÛÛ
ÛÛÛÛ²° proper SVCD Telesync of this movie °²ÛÛÛÛ
ÛÛÛÛ²° for those who could not acquire the °²ÛÛÛÛ
ÛÛÛÛ²° internal or were not happy with the °²ÛÛÛÛ
ÛÛÛÛ²° sound. °²ÛÛÛÛ

seems like a proper, just because the other was internal they thought they prolly could get a lil credits for releasing it public. and sound? as the other dude said. anyone can do it, and even better

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Posted by dopeuser8 on 07-13-2002 05:23 AM:

hmmm.... to clear things up...
3 vcds released and 2 svcds released,
2 vcd's were from the same source, but not re-encodes of each other, TEG and Escoretic, Esco having the better release,
one group duped TEGs but it was quickly nuked and no one touched it. Then TCFs internal SVCD came out but if anyone has seen it, its from the same source as Esco's, possibly even reencoded from it, cause IT HAS THE SAME WATERMARKS during the first 5 minutes or so of the movie. (thats kind of a dead give away, although youre not gonna see it in the sample), and now here's VCDHells dupe of that, shit its not much of a re-encode or proper... [open tmpgenc... hit start... now re-up it to the site you got it from only put your name on it] jeez, they probably spent more time doing a new .nfo then doing the re-encode


Posted by SD187_420 on 07-13-2002 06:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz
i mean after the first 93 TS releases of this movie.. anything short of a screener seems sort of futile to me




Your an idiot...the VCDHell version is slightly better then TCF's but not by much.


Posted by b0nk3r on 07-13-2002 08:01 AM:

slightly.. it seems the nfo says they only fixed the audio. or maybe did the video become a little better?

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Posted by svenbob on 07-13-2002 08:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz
i mean after the first 93 TS releases of this movie.. anything short of a screener seems sort of futile to me



you mean 2? we were in need of a better release. But i agree, a minority report that is actually watchable would be.... nice :-D

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Posted by moviebootlegger on 07-13-2002 08:20 AM:

hey guyz is this rls a NTSC or PAL rls. cuz TCF lied like bastards on their rls they said it was ntsc 29.97 fps but really it was 25 fps. that is a rly important category can anyone tell me what this version is?


Posted by napalmfuzz on 07-13-2002 09:52 AM:

im an idiot because i think this release was unwarrented? only thing really wrong with the esoteric release was the sound.. and a run through cool edit cleaned that all up. but i guess for people that are too lazy or lack the know how then this is for them. just that anyone that cared to see this movie has allready seen it.. and i just think more TS releases are not needed.. the last one wasnt a true internal.. it was just labled internal to prevent being nuked as a dupe.. but it was as common as this one.. thats my reasoning.. if you think im wrong.. thats your opinion and i wont take that away from you cause thats all anyone has left.. so i guess if you dig this movie and didnt know how to fix the esoteric than enjoy this

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Posted by dragon2k on 07-13-2002 12:41 PM:

Thumbs up props to VCDHell

You moaning bastards, no wonder groups are leaving the scene or going internal, first of all in some countries like the UK this film is weeks away from cinema release. And secondly those who say they could do a better encode should put up or shut up. Saying is one thing doing is another.

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Posted by Cerial on 07-13-2002 02:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz
im an idiot ...wrong with the esoteric release was the sound.. and a run through cool edit cleaned that all up.


did u even bother seeing the movie in theaters? half the jokes u cant even hear in the esoteric release no matter what u do to the audio or how loud u turn it up. u miss out on a LOT of funnyness.


Posted by ^Om3n on 07-13-2002 05:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cerial
did u even bother seeing the movie in theaters? half the jokes u cant even hear in the esoteric release no matter what u do to the audio or how loud u turn it up. u miss out on a LOT of funnyness.

You are wrong, i also ran this through a bunch of sound filters, there are many good programs for doing things like this, and the sound turned out quite decent. And yes i saw this at the movies also.

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Posted by PsYCoTiC on 07-13-2002 06:47 PM:

I must agree with those that feel this rel was sub par based on the JPEGs at least. IF this film is going to be released again it should at least have crystal clear A/V. But hey, I'm new to this forum so take my opinion with a grain of salt.


Posted by Grimfull on 07-13-2002 07:00 PM:

Hey Guys!!! Could you all STFU about Minority Report!!! GO SEE IT IN THEATERS!!!!! See it early so its cheaper! I saw it and that movie was great and it deserved my money. THIS MOVIE IS 80 MINUTES SO IT DOESNT...I WANT RELEASES UNTIL ONE OF THE IS GOOD...This is the 5th release so you can all calm down saying there is too many...DONT GET EM IF U DONT WANT THEM. You're not a Topsite who gets them all sent to you and you have to keep em and get you HD filled with some of this shit. SO JUST STFU and dont post if you dont have input about the release! Thank you...


Posted by evilone on 07-13-2002 09:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Grimfull
Hey Guys!!! Could you all STFU about Minority Report!!! GO SEE IT IN THEATERS!!!!! See it early so its cheaper! I saw it and that movie was great and it deserved my money. THIS MOVIE IS 80 MINUTES SO IT DOESNT...I WANT RELEASES UNTIL ONE OF THE IS GOOD...This is the 5th release so you can all calm down saying there is too many...DONT GET EM IF U DONT WANT THEM. You're not a Topsite who gets them all sent to you and you have to keep em and get you HD filled with some of this shit. SO JUST STFU and dont post if you dont have input about the release! Thank you...


My first post and all im going to do is quote this person as they actually made sense especially the part about STFU.

The groups all work hard in there own ways and with so many going internal or getting nuked its hard for anyone to make it.

my props go out to vcdhell for there release and no i didnt get the release. but maybe someone out there will stumble on it and love the movie and the groups for letting them have a chance to see it.


Posted by svenbob on 07-13-2002 09:16 PM:

Doesnt mean its not a re-encode, there are ways to lower movement.

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One time, my cousin Walter got this cat stuck in his ass. True story. He bought it at our local mall so the whole fiasco wound up on the news, it was embarrassing for my relatives and all, but the next week he did it again, different cat, same results, complete with another trip to the emergency room! So I run into him a week later in the mall and he’s buying another cat and I says to ‘em "Jesus Walt, what are you doing? You know your just gonna get this cat stuck up your ass too, why don’t you knock it off?" And he says to me "Brodie, how the hell else am I supposed to get the gerbil out?" My cousin was a weird guy....

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Posted by Ten98 on 07-14-2002 12:42 AM:

as many releases as it takes

if you don't see the point of a third, fourth or fifth release of the same movie, then by all means don't download it, please don't slag off groups whose only intention is to get the best possible version out there.

There are nuking systems in place to stop people re-releasing other people's work and calling it their own, but if you improve upon the picture and sound quality with a re-encode, then bya ll means bring it on.

and if you think anyone of any importance ever reads this bullshit dream on.


Posted by whitestang94 on 07-14-2002 01:33 AM:

Thumbs up men in black svcd proper

I thaught this release was great the sound was better then the rest and the pic was to thanks VCD hell keep up the good work


Posted by aznstyle on 07-14-2002 12:38 PM:

the only real way to compare is to actually get the sample of the two releases and compare. not by just the jpegs due to differences in resolution.


Posted by mag22 on 07-15-2002 12:19 AM:

I just finished watching the *Internal* release by... TCF??? I haven't seen this one (VCDHell) but don't see a listing for the TCF release. I must say it was pretty decent quality, other than 6 or so bursts of static. If the VCDHell rel. is a re-encode of the TCF Internal, it has to look and sound good. If not, then consider this a rating on the TCF only. 7.5/7/4 (Movie is dumb) So many releases and re-encodes gets confusing, but I'll take it over nothing any time.


Posted by moviebootlegger on 07-15-2002 01:34 AM:

hey i wanna know y th hell this rating is so low? this version is the best version pretty much CTP quality of the film. so ctp cocksuckers shoulda been votin this 10. i hate that man for a TS this should b about a 8 and sound a 7.5. and the internal was a good version of the film pretty much same video and sound was louder a tad but more fuzzy. also another note, TCF lied and said the encode was NTSC but it was not the framerate was 25fps. this one was 29.97fps and 480x480. i would think this version is the best simply because the compatibility is more with a ntsc anything for peeps in da US. thas y i would go for this version. IF U HAVE THE TCF version please keep it cuz if u think u gettin wayyyy betta everything wit this ur NOT. pretty much same cept they cropped the sides out to make the pic cleaner. the sound is a lil muffled on this one cuz they tryed to fade out the fuzz but the sound in the other was rly louder only more fuzz.
AND THIS IS THE SAME ASIAN SILVER WIT THE PERSON STANDING UP IN THE END OF THE SECOND DISK MAKIN SHADOW PUPPETS. JUS LETTIN YA KNO SO U DONT FREAK OUT! ALSO THIS THE SAME VERSION WIT THE SWITCHED CREDITS ON IT. hope that helps u people confused out cuz i dont wanna b a lamer and bash anythin i wanna help ya choose the best version for u.


Posted by philmore13 on 07-15-2002 03:38 PM:

better than the first rls better than minority report proper


Posted by drbobsevilweb on 07-15-2002 04:45 PM:

I thought this forum was for just giving your opinions not for flaming groups, all ppl want to know is: "is this worth downloading if ive already got a release already?"

The answer is no if you'v egot the esoteric version but if you havent got any version of this yet then go for this one as it is the best version out at the mo!

simple....


Posted by Wesb0b on 08-01-2002 06:30 AM:

Eh its alright rls but still the original MIB was better


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