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Posted by cofferscuffs on 07-27-2002 01:55 AM:

sample video clarity v good.. a bit blurred but quality is nice... have never heard of this movie before tho but everyone has got to start somewhere

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Posted by RRD on 07-27-2002 01:56 AM:

I think they are part of deviance....


Posted by toohey on 07-27-2002 01:58 AM:

this is wessley's snipe's new movie...kinda remind of tyson's real life story--> boxing/rape/prison....very nice quality compare to the other release


Posted by bmvtoys on 07-27-2002 02:00 AM:

The other release was from a silver, and silver had the same watermark, and such. This release looks much better.


Posted by Vyrrus on 07-27-2002 02:01 AM:

I didnt really like this movie all that much(altho I did fall asleep by the big fight)...Wesley and Vhing were just collecting a paycheck....cant really blame them...I'd collect millions to pretend too....nice to see a TC tho..havent seen one in a while...now if we can get some tc's of decent movies :-]

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One thing tho...doesn't the NFO on this movie seem kinda like begging? I mean I could be a rls group too if i got all the things they are asking for....but once again..if they drop quality TC's...more power to them...


Posted by rappa on 07-27-2002 02:15 AM:

Umm very nice quality, only problem is its outta sync.

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Posted by brr8760 on 07-27-2002 03:16 AM:

quote:
Umm very nice quality, only problem is its outta sync.
Not unusual for samples watched on the computer. I'm happy w/ Vigilante's copy-- possible dupe here?-- but I'll check out CD1 of this to compare. Very popular movie in da hood. And I loved seeing Ving Rhames bitch-slap Wesley Snipes early in the movie. Peace out, my squishy white brothers.


Posted by MinisterSiniste on 07-27-2002 03:17 AM:

I think the vigilante release was far superior. Although it was a little grainy the audio was backstreet boys, err I mean in sync, as compared to the audio problem on this release. I'm sure it's from the same source. Might as well d/l the vigilante and get mouths that go with the words. They're info acts like they're originating something with this movie. Vigs has been out for a week and this one isn't really any different.
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Posted by biggpest on 07-27-2002 03:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by brr8760
Not unusual for samples watched on the computer. I'm happy w/ Vigilante's copy-- possible dupe here?-- but I'll check out CD1 of this to compare. Very popular movie in da hood. And I loved seeing Ving Rhames bitch-slap Wesley Snipes early in the movie. Peace out, my squishy white brothers.

is it just me or is this mislabled? telecines are from the film its self wich would make this ws not fs.
and how can u make a dupe of a ws with an ok pic a fs with pan scan and a better pic?


Posted by rappa on 07-27-2002 03:36 AM:

its prob from a PDVD and umm no the sound is outta sync fool i burn all samples cuz i have 100 extra cdrws that are 12x writeable and i got a 32x so i burn samples on them/

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Posted by Scorpion on 07-27-2002 03:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by biggpest

is it just me or is this mislabled? telecines are from the film its self wich would make this ws not fs.
and how can u make a dupe of a ws with an ok pic a fs with pan scan and a better pic?



It could be a screener, IMDB says the movie has been out in Spain since May, just like Jason X.


Posted by brr8760 on 07-27-2002 04:39 AM:

RaPPa--- sorry, you're right. It IS out of sync. Thanks for the heads-up. The earlier release is fine until someone pounds out a DVDrip.


Posted by napalmfuzz on 07-27-2002 05:26 AM:

TC are not WS only there are also Pan and Scan TC

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Posted by rappa on 07-27-2002 06:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by MinisterSiniste
I think the vigilante release was far superior. Although it was a little grainy the audio was backstreet boys, err I mean in sync, as compared to the audio problem on this release. I'm sure it's from the same source. Might as well d/l the vigilante and get mouths that go with the words. They're info acts like they're originating something with this movie. Vigs has been out for a week and this one isn't really any different.
MrSin




ROFL this release owns vigiliante's..ROFL

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Posted by devilbeast on 07-27-2002 07:10 AM:

O man, fucking telecines rock, i wish theyd come back into play


Posted by MilesHigh on 07-27-2002 09:12 AM:

Unhappy

quote:
Originally posted by RaPpA



ROFL this release owns vigiliante's..ROFL




i think the numbers tells it rappa , vigiliante's release was fine , like you even said , its outta sync. and yeah i think it just might be a dupe of theres , just re encoded , easy to do these days


Posted by killfxp on 07-27-2002 09:21 AM:

Vigilante's release is much better then this release but still props for the pre keep them coming


Posted by Riddick on 07-27-2002 12:24 PM:

just abit of useless info for you all this movie was released in paris on 17th july 2002 :O)


Posted by Klonin on 07-27-2002 01:43 PM:

Thumbs up

You people are fools; if you are going by the sample, burned on a CDRW, well then maybe you should download the full thing and watch. This is far superior to the other release. Spend some money on real CDs. Doesn't take much these days.



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Posted by DABhand on 07-27-2002 08:44 PM:

Huh whats the quality of the media gotta do with playback.

If the sound is out of sync it will be on any type of media.

If it isnt outa sync then it wont be.


Posted by Klonin on 07-27-2002 10:11 PM:

Can you read, I was saying don’t go by the sample burned on a CDRW, was saying download the full CDs. Maybe you should spend some time reading instead of watching crappie vcd release samples on CDRWs. You are probably the type who post based on JPEG alone. Enjoy another JPEG DABHand.


Posted by cameronsdad on 07-28-2002 06:58 AM:

I just got thur watching the whole movie and it is defenetly a TC it is not a rencode the video is very good one of the best TC's I have seen. Sound was very good . I see acouple of post saying the sound was out of sync but it played perfect for me
8 video
9 sound
7 movie


Posted by _JizzMopper_ on 07-29-2002 08:34 AM:

Are you people blind, or just plain IGNORANT?

I have downloaded, and burned, as well as watched..This is definatly not a re encode, it is a TC! A very nice one at that, color is perfect, and as far as I'm concerned it is VHS quality, with STEREO sound! Full screen, NO AUDIO SYNCH problems whatsoever!! I dont know why the sample would have been out of synch.... (I didnt get it, I just went for the whole movie) I had the other version, and it was watchable, but this is far superior to a TS!!!
Video = 9 (pushing 10)
Audio = 9 (Pushing 10)
Movie was great provided you like BOXING..... If not, I guess you have to be a rap/ghetto/thug fan, to enjoy it completly....

I dont post much, and I think that you shouldnt post about the quality of the movie unless you have watched the WHOLE movie... Otherwise, we all might be led into a world of misleading rants on who does what, where it was stole, and who re-encoded whose work from maylasia, or new york hustle manz' warez!!!

Or at least we might waste our time downloading Halloween 10 with the last disc on backwards motion, and have to learn digital blip languages to hear it! (Just a reference, not an actual movie) You see what I mean anyway....
This is after all VCD Quality, and many people in the BOOTLEG world DEPEND on this to gauge what to peddle on their respective blocks.... so KEEP IT REAL, FAIR, AND ..... UNBIASED.....

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Posted by _JizzMopper_ on 07-29-2002 08:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by killfxp
Vigilante's release is much better then this release but still props for the pre keep them coming

HAHAHAHA
What a fool!!!
How in the world could a 3rd generation Telesync, be better than a VERY HIGH quality Telecine??? What we have here is someone who posts without watching the product.....

What the movie, then post your opinion.....


Posted by Wesb0b on 08-01-2002 06:43 AM:

Hell YAA!!!!!!, ive always wanted to sat that. good rls thow!


Posted by renegade on 08-06-2002 01:22 AM:

Well done job obus on this release. The movie itself was straight. This has to be the best pre release I've seen this summer. The pic and audio on this release are well done. The quality on this release is vhs. Only thing I didnt like about this movie was Master P doing the national anthem with a thugged out twist. Not only can the man not rap but he cant sing for shit.

I give this 8/8/7.


Posted by CraZY8 on 08-06-2002 06:07 AM:

HOLY SHIT

I watched this shit., and its comparable to a screener
not quite a dvd rip but its as good as any other screener i have seen in a while
so in conclusion who ever ssaid this was out of sync is a $%#%@^&@#^%@#^&@# @ss
cuz it wasnt
and vigilante suck0rz my l3ft nut


Posted by CraZY8 on 08-06-2002 06:08 AM:

HOLY SHIT

I watched this shit., and its comparable to a screener
not quite a dvd rip but its as good as any other screener i have seen in a while
so in conclusion who ever ssaid this was out of sync is a $%#%@^&@#^%@#^&@# @ss
cuz it wasnt
and vigilante suck0rz my l3ft nut


Posted by lo.pro on 08-06-2002 12:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DABhand
Huh whats the quality of the media gotta do with playback.

If the sound is out of sync it will be on any type of media.

If it isnt outa sync then it wont be.

this is patently untrue, and the fact that you believe this undoubtedly contributes to your poor judgement and generally bad experience with movies. tell ya what, do a little experiment: first put some greasy thumbprints on the clear side of a blank generic cd, then record a movie on it at 32x speed, while fragging in your favorite shoot-em-up 3-d online battle game. then take your burned vcd, which is now full of glitches & fuckups, and tell me whether or not, after the first one or two bad spots, the sound is still in synch for the remainder of the flick.

now, go buy gold/gold kodak media, or some other quality brand, and carefully place the cd into your burner, then shut down all background processes running on your computer, turn off running applications, exit the goat pr0n site you were hanging on, defragment the hard drive where you have the most room, extract the bin/cue to a section of contiguous free space on the defragged drive, and then burn the video using blindwrite or cdrwin at around 2x or 4x. now watch THIS on your standalone player, and tell me if the audio sync is the same as it was in your previous burn.

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Posted by pmcx9 on 08-07-2002 09:43 AM:

I post rarely because of flame wars. I have the full movie.

However I can only say that watching this on my pc from the ISO mounted on Daemon through WinDVD the sound is very slightly out of sync.

I have yet to burn this and watch it on a standalone DVD. I would suspect though that as the source appears out of sync then a burn would be out of sync. NO OTHER movies have been out of sync watched in this manner before.

Excellent quality 9/8/7


Posted by [RaZoR] on 08-08-2002 12:14 AM:

you cant make a vcd with better video / audio .
9/9/7 <-yes no kidding . GREAT WORK .
But the audio was also for me a bit out of sync.
Doesnt matter. we need more telecines like this 1 !

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Posted by DABhand on 08-08-2002 08:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by djb
this is patently untrue, and the fact that you believe this undoubtedly contributes to your poor judgement and generally bad experience with movies. tell ya what, do a little experiment: first put some greasy thumbprints on the clear side of a blank generic cd, then record a movie on it at 32x speed, while fragging in your favorite shoot-em-up 3-d online battle game. then take your burned vcd, which is now full of glitches & fuckups, and tell me whether or not, after the first one or two bad spots, the sound is still in synch for the remainder of the flick.

now, go buy gold/gold kodak media, or some other quality brand, and carefully place the cd into your burner, then shut down all background processes running on your computer, turn off running applications, exit the goat pr0n site you were hanging on, defragment the hard drive where you have the most room, extract the bin/cue to a section of contiguous free space on the defragged drive, and then burn the video using blindwrite or cdrwin at around 2x or 4x. now watch THIS on your standalone player, and tell me if the audio sync is the same as it was in your previous burn.



Uhuh

Maybe consider that your CDR/w is maybe shagged, I have been burning fine on 40x on any type of media gold silver etc, and flicks are perfect. It dont matter what speed you burn at, was in the old days but not now.

And your telling me how to burn a cd? extract da bin/cue to your HD after defragging okkkkkkkkk Nurse over here I got a patient for ya!!

I suppose next your gonna tell me how to NOP out CD protections from .exe files, ooops I see you had old sk00l terms in your post lets make it easier.

sp0se next ur g0nne tell meh h0w to NOP cd pr0ts fro .exe philes.


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Posted by jonywinf on 08-12-2002 11:25 PM:

can anybody tell me where the OBuS version has been posted to? Thanks


Posted by ^Om3n on 08-13-2002 05:00 AM:

If you are asking where to get this release then im sorry but nobody can tell you. Best i can do is direct you to another thread explaining the different mediams.
http://www.vcdquality.com/forum/sho...=&threadid=3973

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Posted by jonywinf on 08-13-2002 09:32 PM:

^Om3n...thanks for the reply....that's a start...lol. Thanks again


Posted by KevN2002 on 08-25-2002 12:42 AM:

Can someone tell me what a Telecine is, and for that matter what a TS source is made from?


Posted by ewfbootlegga on 08-25-2002 07:53 PM:

Quality is great on this one. I too also noticed a little audio sync issues on a few parts of the movie. Luckily it really didn't cause that much of a problem. Great quality once again though. Pretty darn close to VHS and the other was lacking. Nice for a PRE. I personally like this movie and it shows Snipes ability to play a role where he is not in every shot. Good performance from both actors and am hoping for a nice screener in a few weeks that fixes the audio sync.


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