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From Sample:

V-8 Nice TS A little dark, a little flickery, looks a tad cropped at the top
A-6 Audio sounds nice but it also sounds low
M-10

This is something you should actually see in the theaters.. just that great of a movie to see on the big screen.

[NUKE] [ movie.missing.45s.as.stated.in.nfo ]

A movie like this probably can't be done justice with a TS because the visuals are what makes the movie so interesting. I'll wait for the R5, which will hopefully have original English audio and not line audio synched with the video.

59:52

+ 51


with over 3min of credits at the end of this release....


it doesnt add up to imdb?


fuzzy math? like wild hog?

I call shens...

this nuke is so retarded of course if you look at IMDB and TS length it's not going to be the same.

In theater movies are projected at 24fps (Image per second) and when a TS is made it's using a PAL cammera which is running at 25fps, this is also why when watching TS you will see scan lines, because movie is not projected at the same speed.

This being said, do the math, 24fps vs 25fps means an increase of 4% in frame rate, if you check IMDB movie is 117min long so 117min long at 24fps is actually 112min at 25fps (117-4%) and 117-112 is 4 minutes, so 4 minutes are not mssing it's just because of frame rate, then there's obviously the mpaa dots removal they mention but nuking rls because of that is stupid.

Anyway

Video:9 abit dark but heh its adark movie
Audio:clear
Movie:8 maybe was expecting too much out of it

Video is just a tad dark, but very very clean. Audio is direct and nice, if you think it's low...turn it up. For a TS, this is very nice as 20th really is the cream of the crop for some time now. Thanks guys, you rock.

V-7.5
A-7.5
M-8

As horton says, doesnt add up with the missing minutes. Slight sync issue, and video is a bit dark, but overall this is a good early ts, 20th coming out with some good releases.

A 5 (sync issue and hollow)
V 5
M will wait for TC/R5

Rated as a TS

V: 7.5 (dark, otherwise it'd perfect)
A: 7
M: ?

20th best group out there

Will wait for a DVDSCR/R5 release though

20th this looks great, looks like it isnt overcropped as can be seen by opening creds, if we are to believe their nfo saying that they were eliminating dots and that there is only 45 seconds missing, then this is the release to get. seems like they have a decent american source, something that brings us back a few years.

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Dust myself up
and I scream at the sky
It's been so hard
but I can't let it die
Turn my head up,
looking at the stars
So many years,
I still wonder where you are?
Dust myself up
and I scream at the sky
Every day I ask myself why?
So much pain pouring
from inside
Above me I feel the spirit fly

20th seems to be releasing some quality stuff. I think the picture is nice on these because maybe an HDV cam on a DLP screen? Just a thought because they are pretty clear. The flicker in the back of their releases gets kind of annoying but it"s not a big deal. I saw this in theatres and it seems like the color depth isn't as sharp as it should be, but not all maVen / Centropy TS's had a perfect image.

The video is nice but the audio is lacking something. It seems like they hook a mic and set it at their feet and call that direct audio? With drive ins opening up all over hopefully this will change. Also, why do they cut scenes out with the mpaa dots? I would think it would be easier to just drop the few frames every now in then they show up at. I guess i'm being picky but who cares this is where to voice your opinion on the release.

It's nice seeing a group release nice things without an ego about it. They know they do quality work it doesn't seem like they want people to bow at their feet which is how it should be.

V-7.5
A-6
M-8

Very watchable which, without overly exaggerating, makes it a hundred times better than the other 2 releases out. Something wrong with the audio though. Sounds like good cam quality rather then a TS.


8/5.5/? Will definitely try to watch tonight.


Smidge stylized but does not detract from what is an awesome movie. 9

Good video, decent audio. Good release. Pity about the missing footage and the jumps.

V:7
A:6
M:?

from sample and rars:

V:8 (only to dark )
A:7 (hope you get better sources for youre telesyncs )
M:- (not yet seen )


20th has great releases, hope they get better audio.
and hope the dark wil be gone...
also there are 3:17 of end credits

20th get better and better. this release is almost perfect right on screen.

for 20th, first 12 seconds can be deleted

for the person that cames in the cinema about: 00:01:09, get on time!

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300.TS.XViD-20th pred 11h 44m 40s ago (NUKED: missing.footage.at.various.places_approx.4min) :: (2007-03-13) :: (102F 1413MB) (0.001s)

Video - 7 (Good video a bit dark and flicker and missing to much minutes i don't believe its because of dots cause those are only on a couple of frames. Movie is under 120 minutes so it should fit one tape.)

Audio - 6

Movie - 10 (Amazing movie!)

The video quality on this one is way better then the others. That being said its still dark in spots. But that can be expected from a movie such as this.

The audio quality isnt as good as the video quality. The audio is very low. I turned my volume all the way up and was just able to hear it. But the audio is very clear.

Video - 7
Audio - 6
Movie - 10 (its best that you see it in theaters first)

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Originally posted by Cr4P
In theater movies are projected at 24fps (Image per second) and when a TS is made it's using a PAL cammera which is running at 25fps, this is also why when watching TS you will see scan lines, because movie is not projected at the same speed.

This being said, do the math, 24fps vs 25fps means an increase of 4% in frame rate, if you check IMDB movie is 117min long so 117min long at 24fps is actually 112min at 25fps (117-4%) and 117-112 is 4 minutes, so 4 minutes are not mssing it's just because of frame rate,

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Originally posted by Dwaggy
Thats alot of words for someone that sells DVDs out of the back of a truck

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As a TS:
V=8....A tad dark...watchable
A=7
M=10...Great movie
Nice job 20th

Sound?

is it just me or is the sound nearly unlistenable, it is all grabled and distorted sounding.

I cannot see how anyone could give this audio more than a 4.

Someone let me know if they are getting garbled washed out sounding audio or if it is just me as the reviews so far definately dont reflec this.

Video is very good however.

Re: Re: Sound?

video: 8 it is somewhat dark but it is better than anything you will see for a while
audio: 5 sounds garbled (only based on sample)
movie: Didn't see this yet, but will definitely see it at cinema

v = 8
a = 7
m = x

a great early release, there are a few scene jumps but nothing that will ruin the movie. some slight flickering in the bright scenes but over all a excellent release..

top job 20th..

is it 45 sec clip cut out or a bunch of small few sec clips?

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Originally posted by Cr4P
this nuke is so retarded of course if you look at IMDB and TS length it's not going to be the same.

In theater movies are projected at 24fps (Image per second) and when a TS is made it's using a PAL cammera which is running at 25fps, this is also why when watching TS you will see scan lines, because movie is not projected at the same speed.

This being said, do the math, 24fps vs 25fps means an increase of 4% in frame rate, if you check IMDB movie is 117min long so 117min long at 24fps is actually 112min at 25fps (117-4%) and 117-112 is 4 minutes, so 4 minutes are not mssing it's just because of frame rate, then there's obviously the mpaa dots removal they mention but nuking rls because of that is stupid.

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CR4P is right, the movie is cammed at 23.976 fps (NTSC) and then they change the frame rate into 25 fps (PAL) it can be done easily with virtualdub, the proof is that if you change the frame rate of 300 into 23.976 you'll get the exact runtime announced in imdb, how to do this ? just open the 1st cd in virtual dub MOD, take the marker to the end of movie then click video, frame rate and instead of 25 make 23.976, you'll get a longer time, add it to the duration of the 2nd cd obtained by the same operation. DAMN IT'S MAGIC !!!

Removing Dots

Dont think removing the dots will keep the MPAA from figuring out where and from this came from. All this does is show that there is some mad editing to remove the dots, it downgrades the release and removes important video from the release (like in Wild Hogs) Great releases (vid is 8) but when u remove film to mask the dots u ruin the video for everyone. Why take a large gamble to vid a flix then take mad time to remove the vid with the dots. Might as well start adding water marks to cover the dots. How gay is releasing starting to get....what ever happen to the quality groups than didnt care about MPAA and there vid tracking.....Thanks for the release (why bother will be nuked for video missing and will be propered) just my 2 cents.......

Video quality is great, while the colors are dark and there is that infamous flicker line scroll. Hah, not the proper term I'm sure. Doesn't looked overly cropped. Good release.

V-8
A-?
M-?

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the movie was good there are 45 sec cut out and they are in different sections of the movie not to bad for 45 sec. read there nfo it explains why.

v-7-8
a-5-6

this is the best out so far

Nice quality stuff from 20th! You guys are moving up on my list. Video is a tad dark, but good AR, and nice colors. There was one time when it went out of focus when they introduced the queen, but most of the time it was crisp. Someone walks along the bottom of the screen twice at the very beginning, but no other camera blockages. Audio is direct, and full. Not the bassless TS audio that we've been hearing lately. I watched the entire release and no sync issues, or audio glitches. I only noticed one of the cuts where they cut out the MPAA dots, and that was in the scene with the Persian "god". Other than that, the cuts are undistinguishable. I enjoyed the movie more than i thought. It was uber violent, and had great CGI effects. Blood galore. Keep it up 20th.

V - 8
A - 7
M - 9

CATBOX

Excellent work here. There is no way this deserves to be nuked. I did notice 1 edit and for this I rated the video slightly lower than I would have. Other wise it's crisp, clean and I honestly didn't find it too dark.

I'm not sure what the complaints about the audio were all about. Perhaps some codecs need to be updated? I found the volume fine, was not garbled at all, very clear and in sync throughout.

On a personal note, if this group feels safer cutting out a few mpaa dots which amounts to <1 min then I encourage it. Better to have that than risk losing this group.

v - 8
a - 8
m - 9

well might as well say this here with this release.

most 2 or three cd releases by the groups have a different bitrate, pisses me off. you can't join them together as they come.

what i do is recode them to the same bitrate,
after i've went to all that trouble i can lighten it up by tweaking the codec at least the latest DivX codec.

i join the two halves and shrink to one cd .

when i do this i amp the audio and change it to mp3. this gives you more audio to hear the damned thing if it's to low. the result is a good movie not to dark and loud enough to hear.

this one came out good after all that crap.

thing is i hate a release i can't join together as it comes, but it does allow me to [fix] it at the same time i recode it.

the sorce i used [this release] i give a 7.5/7/8

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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THAT 20TH ADDED MUSIC FROM GLADIATOR THE END CREDITS???

Well...

I skimmed through the rls (I saw it in theaters opening day) and I definitely noticed that some footage is missing... but it doesn't really ruin the movie imo.

The audio is not as bad as people make it out to be. I thought it was pretty damned clear and clean for a quick rls... but adding Gladiator music at the end was kind of indulgent on their part!

v8
a7
m7 (It's ok just for the eye candy and action... but it's no Braveheart or Gladiator!)

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20th did a hell of a job. Just a few things I noticed though. Did I see someone moving around getting a seat at the beginning of the movie? And I noticed some very small sync issues on disc 2. However, I loved the movie even though it seriously stretched any and almost all historical fact.

Ah well, this is history viewed by a comic book. Again, it was a hell of a ride and I can't wait for the real retail. Thanks 20th.

V - 7
A - 5
M - 10

In my opinion, this is quite possibly one of the best TELESYNCS I have almost ever seen... Cam is straight, does not moce, hardly cropped at all, starts from very beginning and even has part of the credits without much interruption. Sound was quiet on computer but on a TV, it is listenable... A MUST HAVE...

Re: Removing Dots

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Originally posted by Klonin
How gay is releasing starting to get....what ever happen to the quality groups than didnt care about MPAA and there vid tracking.....

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For those of you that cannot join the two avi files with Virtualdub with this release,this is how i did it.

I took cd1 and cd2 and separtely converted them to svcd files using mainconept encoder, then i took the two and used wombles mpeg2vcr and joined the two svcd files,then used Nero or whatever program you use to encode it to DVD.

Came out just fine, video is about the same as the original avi files and audio is ok.

This release in my eyes is the better one unitl a screener or better TS comes out.

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Originally posted by transferman
For those of you that cannot join the two avi files with Virtualdub with this release,this is how i did it.

I took cd1 and cd2 and separtely converted them to svcd files using mainconept encoder, then i took the two and used wombles mpeg2vcr and joined the two svcd files,then used Nero or whatever program you use to encode it to DVD.

Came out just fine, video is about the same as the original avi files and audio is ok.

This release in my eyes is the better one unitl a screener or better TS comes out.

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Re: Removing Dots

quote:

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Originally posted by Klonin
what ever happen to the quality groups than didnt care about MPAA and there vid tracking..

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quote:

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Originally posted by imspecial
Loading each cd into virtual dub or nandub and encoding the audio of each cd at a constant bitrate of say 160kbps or 128kbps and leaving the video alone should allow them to be joined completely fine using Nandub.

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Didn't have an audio problem

V=7
A=7
M= will let ya know at the end

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