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Posted by X69 on 07-24-2007 10:21 PM:


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Posted by vurtX on 07-24-2007 10:30 PM:

PUKKA are top dogs this year, this is another top quality release, they have put out SEVEN in july alone and theres a week of it left! even maven and 20th are not in this league > MAXIMUM RESPECT.

v = 9
a = 7
m =7


Posted by chappieslover on 07-24-2007 10:35 PM:

great work great group thanks laDS


Posted by y0usei on 07-24-2007 10:38 PM:

from the sample:
video 9
audio 8
movie (bruce willis looks pretty fucking old hah)

anyway this is really good quality. i saw no sync issues in the sample, so heres hoping the whole thing is like that. ill happily watch soon to find out.


Posted by wanksock on 07-24-2007 10:40 PM:

vurtX, that would be because maven and 20th cam their own stuff, transfer it to there pc, clean it, encode it, source their own audio, encode it, sync it as well as do there best to remove any marks which may give the mpaa clues as to which cinema they cammed it in.

whereas pukka download the r5 off a russian torrent site and pre it.


i would say that at least they synced there own audio to it, but judging by the sample they didnt even manage that ever so well.

never the less.

video - 8
audio - 6 (7 if actual movie is synced properly)


Posted by lazerfire on 07-24-2007 10:47 PM:

picture 9
sound 7 out of sync bye about 1 sec
move 9


Posted by bobbish on 07-24-2007 10:48 PM:

sample's about +200ms out of sync, but that's easily fixable,...hoping any sync issues are just constant.

vid is great, and sound is decent enough for an external source. dialog is clear.

8.5/7/8.5

taking a chance and picking up the full thing now. will change rating if it's all f'd up oos.

edit: yep, it's just the sample that was cut badly. actual rls seems very good. sync is great from what i see
edit2: even without the sync fix & proper, i'm still not getting any sync issues on either cd. ?


Posted by Pansen666 on 07-24-2007 10:58 PM:

Video: 9 (very nice)
Audio: 6 (unfortunately, its MONO. 2ch though, but as its the same signal despite the encoding-artefacts)


Posted by HERETiC on 07-24-2007 11:22 PM:

8/8/8

Like some other people said, the sound in the sample looks a bit out of sync.

.:edit:.

Sound seems in sync on the actual movie though, CD 1 & 2.


Posted by MrBrains on 07-24-2007 11:43 PM:

Grabbed this earlier and great picture for me this is pretty much dvd qualty cant really fault the picture at all nice colours its all u gonna need to till a dvd rip if at all. Sound is spot on and i notice no sync issues here at all and ive looked pretty hard at it.

Sync fix is out if needed


Live.Free.or.Die.Hard.R5.LINE.OPTIONAL.Sync.Fix-PUKKA


V 10
A 10
M 8

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Posted by Twisted Nerve on 07-24-2007 11:48 PM:

howdy

the actual movie files are fine, its just the sample thats outta wack

this & Transformers are movies of the year so far

V 9.5
A 7
M 9.5

tN


btw...... in case you were wondering the little bits with subtitles, are subtitled correctly in English

made a quick comparison jpeg for y'all too, guess which one is the R5

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5999/comparehn0.jpg
Shot at 2007-07-24


Posted by BannedAgain002 on 07-24-2007 11:51 PM:

I'm not convinced this is a R5 if it is why are the subs in English ?

Great release only a slight sync issue that was easily fixed.

V=9
A=9
M=8

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Posted by troymike on 07-25-2007 12:25 AM:


V 10
A 7
M 10


Posted by dragon26 on 07-25-2007 01:14 AM:

well it aint cd 1 that has the issues it cd2 at the 33rd min so the fix does bugger all


Posted by Nakedlunch on 07-25-2007 01:15 AM:

As played on HDTV and digital audio:

V: 9 (DVD quality)
A: 7 (surprisingly good for line, a bit thin but just turn up bass)
M: 8 yippi-kay-yay, mo'fo!


Posted by Cr-critic on 07-25-2007 03:09 AM:

Nice !
V-10
A-9.5
M-8
all in sync
EDIT : just finished watching this on the tv its all good no hiss or audio issues video was perfect throughout whole flick thx PUKKA
I should add i made to 1 dvd even though this movie won't fit right as it is nero 7 ultra still produced a kick azz dvd also.... was unsure of 33 min mark on cd2 as said above so i scanned ahead to that point on dvdmpg before watching it and all in sync......on pc i use VLC player so i did wonder if it might be WMP causing some issues for others ... so just a heads up this file is all good.

BTW VLC videolan player needs no codecs......no fuss no hassle...and it plays it all ....woot


Posted by Goonernev14 on 07-25-2007 03:13 AM:

V - 9
A - 8
M - 9


grabbed this earlier no sync issues another quality rls from pukka


Posted by alienseeker on 07-25-2007 03:15 AM:

All seems fine this enc

V.9
A.8
M? gonna watch tomorrow

Respects for the R5's


Posted by Avi on 07-25-2007 06:04 AM:

Looks all in sync to me. (CD1 and CD2)
Didn't watch the sample though...
IMHO, fix is not needed.

8/8/9


Posted by diddyk on 07-25-2007 06:18 AM:

stuff like this meakes me laugh! I mean how hard is it to make quality audio. There is a nice program called sony vegas that will make a very nice 5.1 ac3 trac out of stero with the right settings. these so called groups put time into these releases and cant even get it right. I sit here at home fix it and make it better then when I got it and the best part is I DONT MESS IT UP. Why not release everything with surround sound if you have to put the time in anyways?
The audio in this is out of sync in cd 2 and the whole movie sounds out of pitch and not much bass, video looks good


v/9
a/4 ( out of sync and pitchy and low bass)
m/9 best so for out of all the DH series


Posted by alkamist on 07-25-2007 06:20 AM:

well this is a really good copy i must say

well did the pukka fix..

didnt see anything wrong with the 33rd minute on cd2.

will watch tomorrow on my tv.. audio sounded well..


v:9
a:9
m:9


Posted by gus1897 on 07-25-2007 06:45 AM:

No sync issues at all, i try to find something but it's clean.

V 9
A 9
M 9


Posted by DOUGYB on 07-25-2007 08:16 AM:

From Sample


Good Picture

Much better audio then TS release


V=8
A=7
M=7

Good plausable story line


Posted by Anoos on 07-25-2007 09:38 AM:

V=9
A=9.5(Sounds Great on my pc better than most other R5's I've seen)
M=?? Yet to see
The sync issues are unnoticable(well with vlc and kmplayer) and there is a fix available if you can notice it.
Another Great Release From PUKKA


Posted by bellcam on 07-25-2007 11:16 AM:

V 9
A 8
M 9

Looks fine to me couldn't find any sync issues at all, mind you I did update codecs the other day


Posted by NibbleMe on 07-25-2007 03:08 PM:

From full thing..

V: 9
A: 7 (Yes, on the second CD it does go the VERY VERY SLIGHTEST bit out of sync. We're talking milliseconds of milliseconds here. Audio doesn't have much depth to it but it's very clear and more than worthy.)
M : ?


Posted by BigBadBart on 07-25-2007 05:31 PM:

Sync issues ???

Well you're never gonna guarrantee good sync playback when the rules point everything to VBR audio, This Xvid rule is the only system that uses VBR audio and it sucks. Direct show is a bit basic so FF-show is a must-do upgrade and so is Nic's or Keopi xvid codecs just to get it stable with Media-player. As for VLC, do me a favour, I've seen so many sync comlaints with references to VLC that I wouldn't even be arsed to look at it. My Media player2 works brilliant and well synced and I get mutiple screens playing all over the place, so as a Sub-Editor (Sub-Reader) I do easily notice sync issues.


V = 9 (good, typical R5 Mpeg2 stream)

A = 6 (Average, Typical Pukka stuff - over-filtered and clipped - could try dropping the Vol. before filtering, just takes a bit longer.

M = 8 Bruce Willis Old ???, Who said that?, Well I hope I'm as active at his age or even had just one Jot of the money he's made - cus it's a good movie and is having gret success - Go see it. It's fun.

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Posted by Mike-420 on 07-25-2007 07:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by diddyk
stuff like this meakes me laugh! I mean how hard is it to make quality audio. There is a nice program called sony vegas that will make a very nice 5.1 ac3 trac out of stero with the right settings. these so called groups put time into these releases and cant even get it right. I sit here at home fix it and make it better then when I got it and the best part is I DONT MESS IT UP. Why not release everything with surround sound if you have to put the time in anyways?
The audio in this is out of sync in cd 2 and the whole movie sounds out of pitch and not much bass, video looks good


v/9
a/4 ( out of sync and pitchy and low bass)
m/9 best so for out of all the DH series




and what u dont relize is these groups use MP3 audio NOT ac3 Audio.. cuz AC3 audio SUCKS

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Posted by BigBadBart on 07-25-2007 08:11 PM:

Ac3 audio sucks???

NO - Ac3 audio does not suck - but it's a very big file size for Xvid formats and reduces the overall file size remaining for the Video stream - Typical file sizes for an average 2hr movie = 400 Mb Ac3 full SS dolby - 180 Mb Ac3 2ch dolby - 90 Mb Mp3 2ch Vbr - 85 Mb Mp3 2ch Cbr - Don't have to be rocket scientist to figure why movie groups make their choices of audio to enhance their Video

*Note these are not exact sizes quoted as Various bit-rates and choice of sample-rates can greatly alter these sizes, it's just based on averages. but the Mp3 calculation is about as low as you can get it.

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Posted by Cr-critic on 07-25-2007 08:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by diddyk
stuff like this meakes me laugh! I mean how hard is it to make quality audio. There is a nice program called sony vegas that will make a very nice 5.1 ac3 trac out of stero with the right settings. these so called groups put time into these releases and cant even get it right. I sit here at home fix it and make it better then when I got it and the best part is I DONT MESS IT UP. Why not release everything with surround sound if you have to put the time in anyways?
The audio in this is out of sync in cd 2 and the whole movie sounds out of pitch and not much bass, video looks good


v/9
a/4 ( out of sync and pitchy and low bass)
m/9 best so for out of all the DH series



HAHA very funny is it out of sync NO pitchy NO


Posted by BigBadBart on 07-25-2007 10:25 PM:

mike-420

Yeah like Sony software ever works - 'Go Create', Go F**k yourself Sony, well untill you give us some decent tools to work with

If you want to help Movie groups like PUKKA etc. first find out how Video/Audio streams work and there limitations when warping and filtering, then maybe you could tell them the advantages (or not) when warping with Goldwave using the fixed rate feature and length by run time with frame calculation @ 33ms, 40ms, 42ms per frame, thus avoiding that annoying warbling sound, this is how hollywood do it with all their billions available, so the chances of Sony or any lowly PC doing any better are a bit slim.

Allthough this route is a bit mind bogling and bloody time consuming I do it all the time, ever since S.W.A.T., cus no matter what, I have never been able to play ntsc through my Sony-Pal 36" WS, It just gives jerky playback (especially during slow pan & scan shots) you can only playback ntsc properly if your telly is ntsc-pal switchable, and not many are.

but don't just thank them or dis them for the wrong reasons or they'll be thinking everything they produce is the best ever and won't have a clue how to tweek their programs and save their templates.

sorry for rambling on - but I hope there's some info here that's a little more constructive than just endless whinging of late.

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Posted by Nakedlunch on 07-25-2007 10:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by diddyk
[B]stuff like this meakes me laugh! I mean how hard is it to make quality audio. There is a nice program called sony vegas that will make a very nice 5.1 ac3 trac out of stero with the right settings.


You dumb cluebie, you can't "make" surround out of stereo anymore than you can "make" a colour picture out of B&W.


Posted by GloCK|40 on 07-26-2007 02:29 AM:

Great Job PUKKA!!!

V-9
A-7
M-9

Damn. PUKKA is killin em. what a bunch of great releases. thx for all the hard work guys. it is much appreciated. anyhow, this is yet another very nice release. the video is great. theres just not much more to say about that. very clear, no artifacts or glitches. the audio is also very clean and clear. i had no sync issues at all on cd1 or cd2. the entire release played perfectly. anyhow, this is one kick ass movie and i would recommend it to anyone. definately worth a watch, and this is by far the release to get. Great Job PUKKA!!! Keep em coming

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Posted by BigBadBart on 07-27-2007 06:06 AM:

sum more sync stuff???

What sync issues is everyone going on about?

I've tried everythink to de-sync this, but I can't, I've even made a Mp2 audio file with Tmpeg which stablizes Vbr Mp3, and I still don't have a sync problem, so what chuffin players are you lot using? to f**k up a good job from PUKKA - oh yeah, it's actually a better line audio than Visual's (which goes up-n-down a bit) but it's a bit harsh in the top range, and a bit shallow on the bass side, Wavelab'll give you good results with 'some filtering' from the EQ master filter.

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Posted by moviedvdfreak on 07-27-2007 07:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BannedAgain002
I'm not convinced this is a R5 if it is why are the subs in English ?

Great release only a slight sync issue that was easily fixed.

V=9
A=9
M=8



i think one thing that can signify that this as a R5 is that the title in the beginning it says DIE HARD 4.0,where as in the states its LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD.

anyway solid release,i had absolutley no sync issues on either cd

V 8.5

A 7.5

M 8


Posted by Pra3t0 on 07-28-2007 10:31 PM:

Re: sum more sync stuff???

quote:
Originally posted by BigBadBart
What sync issues is everyone going on about?

Pukka's fix works on CD1 but I noticed it goes slightly out-of-sync on CD2 in the scene where McClane's daughter is tied up and the main bad guy is communicating with McClane and then they bring the hacker kid into the room.


Posted by kelnar on 07-29-2007 02:22 AM:

actually no it doesn't and never did go out of sync for most people. if you are having problems, it's your codecs/player and you should try a different one.
10
9
10


Posted by Pra3t0 on 07-29-2007 08:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by kelnar
actually no it doesn't

yes it does, which is why it was nuked. Some people just aren't able to notice these kinds of things.


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