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Posted by porco556 on 05-10-2004 07:01 AM:

Man... I am torn on this one.

Yet another example of where too many extras harms quality of the actual movie too much. However, a movie like this one, the outtakes and the 6 deleted scenes are not bad to have.

Video got hit hard. The movie is pretty long, weighing in at 110 mins. Downsampling looked decent on my monitor, but bring it down to the big screen and the true colors of the encode start to show. Being someone that still believes that if you like this movie enough to want to see the extras, buy it. Reversely someone could say, "if you want perfect quality (or the original quality) video, then you buy it." Regardless, 1.85:1 movies need all the bitrate they can get, which in this case it didn't, thus causing noticeable video flaws.

Audio is audio (I'm assuming). No complaints here.

As for the movie, this is a one-time-watcher for me. So I've seen it (thank you Centropy) and I nuked it quickly.

Picky mans scores (relative to the retail copy, which I don't have )

Video 6/10 - 3500 is low enough for 2.35:1 movies, 1.85:1 need even more. This release needed at least a 4550 to look as good as a 3550 2.35:1 movie. Meaning movie + menu would have been the bare minimum to get the movie qual up to par. Approximately 8/10 if the whole disc was dedicated to the movie + menu only.

DVD-R 7/10 - Keeping the extras cost serious video quality, however the completeness of the disc has it's pluses also. Still liking movie only releases more, I give it a 7 on overall release.

Posted by playstationer on 05-11-2004 03:09 AM:

porco556 I agree with you on this one very poorly done.

You would think that a group like Centropy would finally get one correct but it seems like they once again used DVD Shrink

Very noticeable on my Samsung 42 inch widescreen

6/8/6

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Posted by porco556 on 05-11-2004 04:00 AM:

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Originally posted by playstationer
You would think that a group like Centropy would finally get one correct but it seems like they once again used DVD Shrink

Hmm... I don't think they used DVD Shrink. In some cases you can use the worlds best encoder with a million passes and the movie will still look poor ass if not enough bit rate is allocated (especially on the 1.85:1 movies [Bend it Like Beckham, Saving Private Ryan are two good (IMO) examples off top of my head]).

I once did a 1 pass CCE at 5600kbit/sec and then did 6 more passes on the same movie. Couldn't tell the difference between the 1 pass and the 6 pass because there was enough bitrate to distribute pretty nicely even in the first pass.

All this said, I am one bad release away from starting my own group

That is, if I wasn't scared of the cops knocking on my door

Plus I don't have access to movies more than 7 days before they are released.

Posted by BLUE-NEO on 05-15-2004 12:41 AM:

they didn't use dvdshrink..the movie files aren't that big to begin with and the quality is exactly the same as the dvdrip. no difference. Its suppose to look this crappy.

8/10/7

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