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Posted by Rep- on 02-24-2003 01:47 AM:

Looks pretty good. the video is a little weird, but its clear and full or color, lil bright. The sound is nice. props esoteric. 6/8/x

Posted by nvr on 02-24-2003 01:49 AM:

looks real full screen TS.

Good Job Esoteric!!!

8/8/?

Posted by your name here on 02-24-2003 01:52 AM:

EXCELLENT COLOURS TOO BAD about the cam angle but this is as good as a ts your gonna see 8/7/9

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Posted by VSeeDeez on 02-24-2003 01:53 AM:

this is very nice good job eso!
kinda grainy but i can deal with it! =D
6.5/6/1

Posted by aoLhaTer on 02-24-2003 02:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by VSeeDeez
this is very nice good job eso!
kinda grainy but i can deal with it! =D
6.5/6/1

you watched the whole movie already and thought it was that bad huh :-\

Posted by VSeeDeez on 02-24-2003 02:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by aoLhaTer

you watched the whole movie already and thought it was that bad huh :-\

actually i saw it in theaters =D

Posted by oqwarrior on 02-24-2003 02:50 AM:

Hmm... nice picture, but it seems to be on a slight angle. Still a very nice TS nonetheless.

6.9999/7/4

Posted by a1catraz on 02-24-2003 02:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by your name here
EXCELLENT COLOURS TOO BAD about the cam angle but this is as good as a ts your gonna see 8/7/9

[Flame edited out]

..."too bad about the cam angle"
the angle is not that bad, its just something you saw on the jpegs....
7/7/?

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Posted by bugger on 02-24-2003 03:08 AM:

nice print ,well done esoteric

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Posted by petrocs on 02-24-2003 03:31 AM:

3hours and 49minute movie on 3 cds...should make for an intersting evening. I love history movies so i hope this is good.
The quality of this release is very nice..7/7/? Good Job Eso

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Posted by phate on 02-24-2003 03:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by aoLhaTer

you watched the whole movie already and thought it was that bad huh :-\

actually if u followed anything about movies u would know this came out last weekend in the theatres.

however, after reading all of the reviews of this movie on imdb.com i am definitely going to give this one a pass. sounds like it sucks shit. quality is decent tho, but im not wetting my pants over it. 6/6/?

Posted by SneakySix on 02-24-2003 04:07 AM:

Yea looks like a pretty good ts, liked the movie, worth the dl if yer into the whole Civil War thing.

Posted by cx on 02-24-2003 04:19 AM:

This is pretty much a 4 hour civil war movie, if this isn't your type of movie or know anything about it, please do not comment on it.

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Posted by SneakySix on 02-24-2003 04:21 AM:

i love you cx

Posted by mflynn00 on 02-24-2003 06:07 AM:

...couldn't even watch past the first cd...first the filmer decides to move around the first 5 minutes
then he decides it would be cool to put his hand over the camera every 30 seconds....i get to see the back of someones head instead of the movie...this should be nuked 100x

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Posted by sandvic on 02-24-2003 10:14 AM:

Actually movie is around 215 mins, not 4 hours. Decent TS of a really great movie

Posted by mflynn00 on 02-24-2003 11:44 AM:

sorry about the flames but i truly wonder if any of the other posters have actually watched more than the sample or looked at the jpeg...*sigh*

Posted by petrocs on 02-24-2003 01:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Vtec
3cdr x 80min = 240min = 4 hours - approximately 5-10min of creds would make it easy to fit that timeframe on 3cd's. I hope this isn't considered a "flame" LOL.

I was questioning the amount of cd's I was mearly commenting on the long running time..its gonna feel like one of my history lectures from college

Posted by yayo4ya on 02-24-2003 03:10 PM:

Fortunately, I am a huge Civil War Fan and I have been waiting for this movie to come out. After watching the beginning of cd1, I am very happy that I saw this is the theatres this past weekend. Sound is good and the colors aren't bad, but what's with the guy holding the cam. He's very fidgety and moves around way to much. I'm afraid to even try and download the other cd's. Hopefully someone will do another rls. I wouldn't waste your bandwith guys, especially on 3 cd's.

Posted by bbmd on 02-24-2003 04:23 PM:

Picture wise pretty good aprt from some1 sticking their hand in front of the lense on many occasions, sound pretty clear and could understand every word..only watched cd1 but my US history and civil war knowledge (myself not living in US) sux so was well lost by end of cd1..can some1 clarify for me that back then did Americans actualy speak as if they had swallowed some shakespearian novel ?!?!

Posted by bbmd on 02-24-2003 04:42 PM:

BTW: this title should b a nuke reason: mislabeled.CAM this definatly is not direct input sound..and the person who KEEPS putting their hand in front of the camera is realy pissing me off !!

Posted by Asterisk on 02-24-2003 05:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bbmd
BTW: this title should b a nuke reason: mislabeled.CAM this definatly is not direct input sound..and the person who KEEPS putting their hand in front of the camera is realy pissing me off !!

Well most of the TS's out these days are mislabled CAMs, but I'd have to say the sound on this one is pretty good compared with others. The video source for a TS is the same as a CAM so it doesn't matter if hands get waved or ppl walk past the screen, doesn't mean it gets nuked. Think the cammer did a good job sitting there for just under four hours, don't you think?

6/7/? ...still watching...

Posted by bbmd on 02-24-2003 06:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Asterisk
Well most of the TS's out these days are mislabled CAMs, but I'd have to say the sound on this one is pretty good compared with others. The video source for a TS is the same as a CAM so it doesn't matter if hands get waved or ppl walk past the screen, doesn't mean it gets nuked

For exactly that reason it should b nuked..reason being now that it is known it is a CAM other groups will b encouraged to release maybe a CAM.PROPER or TS or TS.PROPER version thus starting a war on who released a CAM or TS version first which in turn could end up with maybe 3-6 releases of the same film given the notable quality of the content of this film..y can't we just get back to a simple won race or lost race situation instead of multiples and multiples of films being released and no1 knowing which is best and wot source they realy are..

Posted by vcdflow on 02-24-2003 06:48 PM:

If only all TS groups used this same DIGITAL CAMERA, but use mini tripod next time and put it between your legs (works better) =oP

Posted by Jc100 on 02-24-2003 11:24 PM:

Wow nice shadow pupets, people's backs, and i can hear him eating... Plus the first 5 mins im getting sea sick as the camera is bouncing up and down like a kid reaching for candy. I couldtn even get past this. Not to mention, the audio goes mad low as i scrolled to later in movie. This isnt a ts in the slightest. Its some cammer who is obvously more concerned with shadow puppets, and making noise, than gettin a good release. Now can we have gods of war attempt number 2

Posted by Truman on 02-24-2003 11:38 PM:

Nice quality but like the last few posts said the guy holding the camera was kind of fidgeting way too much , were the ppl looking at him when his hand went over the lense? we may never know but hey i suppose these guys who risk their own necks deserve some credit no matter how annoying it sometimes gets.

Posted by cx on 02-25-2003 04:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by sandvic
Actually movie is around 215 mins, not 4 hours.

are you kidding

4hours = 240
imdb Runtime: 216 min

60+60+60=180 +46 minutes = 216
so 3 hours and 46 minutes would not really be classified as 4 hours especially if you count the 10 minutes of previews before the movie.

Some people here, including the staff, still like to support movies and will spend the time to go see them. so all in all, its not almost 4 hours eh. oki

Posted by ams30gts on 02-25-2003 12:59 PM:

decent picture. sound is crappy. can barley hear anything. they need to stop moving the camera around and make sure its in the middle next time. should be nuked for not labeling it correctly. its a cam, not a telesync. hopefully the next rel will have the sides of the movie as well.

Posted by GuyNoir on 02-25-2003 09:41 PM:

Esoteric CAM too short?

If i add up the time of all 3 sections I get:
cd1 58:17
cd2 64:34
cd3 68:15
Total 191:06

However the running time is listed as 216 minutes. There appears to be a missing 25 minutes of the film. I suppose it could be the end credits, but 25 minutes? I did not see it yet in the theaters. Would anyone else care to comment on what has been cut.

Posted by petrocs on 02-25-2003 11:58 PM:

Re: Esoteric CAM too short?

quote:
Originally posted by GuyNoir
If i add up the time of all 3 sections I get:
cd1 58:17
cd2 64:34
cd3 68:15
Total 191:06

However the running time is listed as 216 minutes. There appears to be a missing 25 minutes of the film. I suppose it could be the end credits, but 25 minutes? I did not see it yet in the theaters. Would anyone else care to comment on what has been cut.

I have seen it that the running time is 229 minutes not 216..I wonder if they are including preview time and credits in the 229.
If not then this release is missing 38 minutes. I havent watched the entire thing yet but I will be mighty pissed if I watched a movie this long and its not complete.

Posted by jengofett on 02-26-2003 12:10 PM:

ok im not gonna be an ass its not that bad quality except i saw at least on disc 2 there was a hand kept covering the lens and the sound was decent but i think it could have been a littler louder
decent for first rls though ive seen alot worse

Posted by WonderinJoe on 02-27-2003 02:51 AM:

The quality is great for a movie that is as new as this one is. I can't figure out why the guy running the camera keeps putting his hand in front of the lense. He doesn't seem to be adjusting anything and he does it every few minutes through the first part of the movie. Other than the mysterious hand, it is of good quality.

Posted by PSXDude on 02-27-2003 03:57 AM:

Been waiting on this release. Video Quality is good when it wasnt covered by hand. Missed one of the battles being covered. Audio was good at times. This should have been nuked due to the interuptions throughout the entire release. Seen alot better by ESOTERiC. Keep it up guys but plz prescreen before releasing.
3/2.5/8

Posted by 104 on 02-27-2003 06:43 AM:

This CAM is terrible due to the rustling, the head and hand that gets in the way alot. The first 10 or 11 posts say how good this is and dont mention this.
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As i was stupid enough to actually dl load this on the faith that there are some people who watch this first before reviewing.
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The quality of the cam without the bad bits is good but it is very annoying to try and watch. I give this 2/3/couldnt watch it to give a vote on the film itself but will dl a better one when it arrives.

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Posted by Haplo on 03-02-2003 02:34 PM:

Anyone who posted that this release was good in any fashion has never watched the release itself and obviously only watched the sample. I unfortunately watched the entire release. While the actual audio / video quality was excellent, this release was definately NOT a Telesync. Telesync's infer that there is a direct audio feed and we had to sit through listening to the rustling of the recorder's jacket and coughing through the whole movie. Serveral scenes were cut from this release. The recorder put his hand over the lens evertime anyone in the theater stood up which seemed like every 5 minutes. At some points he even zipped up the jacket over the lens for 2-3 minutes at a time. At another point, someone sits directly in front of the lens for almost 10 minutes before the recorder finally moved to another seat. The audio was almost as bad as the noise of the jacket the recorder had the camera inside was louder than the audio from the movie, and it was constant through the entire film, the guy could not sit still for 2 minutes! I agree with the earlier post that this release should have immediately been nuked 100x. Don't waste one byte of bandwidth on this release, one of the worst I have ever seen, Shame on you Esoteric!

Posted by Lucky13 on 03-03-2003 12:16 AM:

For those of you wondering, the roaming hand and other distraction account for about 15-20 mins of the movies total run time.

3/3

Posted by slaz on 03-03-2003 03:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Haplo
Anyone who posted that this release was good in any fashion has never watched the release itself and obviously only watched the sample. I unfortunately watched the entire release. While the actual audio / video quality was excellent, this release was definately NOT a Telesync. Telesync's infer that there is a direct audio feed and we had to sit through listening to the rustling of the recorder's jacket and coughing through the whole movie. Serveral scenes were cut from this release. The recorder put his hand over the lens evertime anyone in the theater stood up which seemed like every 5 minutes. At some points he even zipped up the jacket over the lens for 2-3 minutes at a time. At another point, someone sits directly in front of the lens for almost 10 minutes before the recorder finally moved to another seat. The audio was almost as bad as the noise of the jacket the recorder had the camera inside was louder than the audio from the movie, and it was constant through the entire film, the guy could not sit still for 2 minutes! I agree with the earlier post that this release should have immediately been nuked 100x. Don't waste one byte of bandwidth on this release, one of the worst I have ever seen, Shame on you Esoteric!

I was gonna type all that but you did it for me. I cannont understand why those at Esoteric thought this was a TS, not a chance in hell. This reminds me of years past and watching a hong kong silver of Enemy of the State with people walking around during the movie, just even worse. This is by far the worst scene release I have seen in months. Do not waste your bandwidth on it.

I've never cammed anything before so I guess I could be flamed here but I have given it a great deal of thought. First ya wanna go to cam it late at night or first showing of the day so not so many ppl are there, second sit near the back to get the best angle, third put the mike somewhere where you are not gonna fuckn bump it every 30 secs (which is what this cammer did), But most importantly, configure your cam on previews, not the feckin film itself. And note to the cammer: when someone stands up in a cinema they are not trying to find you and catch you. They wanna take a piss or get more popcorn!

Props to the group for releasing the film anyway, and it is fair to say the quality is good outside of the massive killer hands and moon shaped head. Which incidentially is where I KNOW some of the movie was cut, if those of u that have cd1 scan to the bit with the head, and scan to the end of the head, listen to the score of the music - it abrutly changes and the head vanishes - deffinate cut there. All in all, this rls should be nuked because of it being mislabelled, not because its shit, allthough strictly speaking you could say it was bad audio (the level does drop through the floor at points, so u turn it up, then Mr Figity decides to try and lick the mike like it was a icecream or something and u end up with really really really loud rustling

And I guess what with the cammer taking the what must be drastic action to zip up his coat / bag whatever it was and or shove his hands infront of the lens for half the movie this release should be nuked for bad video. Anyway - dont bother with this and next time maybe esoterics next "ts" should be checked thoroughly before being released. Too late to nuke now cos everyone thats gonna get this as a result of a site will either have it or not want it by now.

Posted by yayo4ya on 03-03-2003 03:49 PM:

Someone Pls Re-Release this

I know nobody is probably gonna read this far down on the list, but I saw this in the theatre and I realy liked this film. This was the funniest release I have ever seen. As funny as it was to watch the cammer in action, the movie is 100% unwatchable.

Posted by fallacist on 03-04-2003 04:21 AM:

-still watching

i agree; this isn't even worth the download..sure you can get the jist of the movie, but with all the "added features" it just ruins the whole movie.. not worth it

Posted by VW-Russia on 03-29-2003 07:48 AM:

Definately noone is reading that far.
Finally got around to this movie.Sample -wise.. looks like ESO took the best part (as far as quality) and tore the piece out of it.Going by the samle i would have given it 8/8/9.But hell once all 3 cds were burnt.. i realized i just wasted 3 cd-rs .. this is 200% unwatchable.. cam moves up and down left and right , audio is quite noisy..CD1 has some parts where there is no video , just audio...Therefore i am giving it 2/2/9

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