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Posted by Twista on 08-16-2003 04:04 PM:

Based on sample 7/6/?... audio is kinda loud, Cant wait to see this one with the gf..


Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 08-16-2003 04:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Twista
Based on sample 7/6/?... audio is kinda loud, Cant wait to see this one with the gf..

theres titty in the first 3 minutes. so show up late if she gets mad at those things. and leave to go to the bathroom every 20 minutes. cause theres alot of titty in this movie.
6/6/4.

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Posted by hippyhater on 08-16-2003 04:45 PM:

for a slasher this is an amazing movie, it stays faithful to both series and we get to see hella-amazing kills in it

id say this rls is average, its worth getting to watch once but not to keep around

6-6-10


Posted by [dj-mike] on 08-16-2003 05:24 PM:

VERY crapy pic and sound (HISSY) I think I will wait for a better release.

5/4/?


Posted by pimp on 08-16-2003 05:32 PM:

colours are washed out & that hissing sounds very bad,1 for the bin


Posted by ReTiCuLeX on 08-16-2003 05:56 PM:

w00t ty loGisTic for FvsJ with the blackout I wasn't able to see it as I just got power in the last 14hrs. 5/5/? Just checked sample.. nice to be first for the rls but I don't think svcd was needed vcd would of fit it better. Just visited my friends house lol, he got it off the st. same copy :-O


Posted by BONGO_2003 on 08-16-2003 06:47 PM:

GRP'S DONT LEARN !!

ANOTHER CRAPY RELEASE HAS BEEN PUT ON TO SVCD!!!!

the colors are faded on this ,
the sound is fucked , so why is it on svcd?

i dont know .

you all should take note and STOP releasin CRAP QUALITY
to SVCD ...

ill wait for a BETTER copy i aint wasting my time D/L this

4/4/7


Posted by faYth on 08-16-2003 06:53 PM:

they release 'crappy' quality as SVCD because they figure the higher bitrate will make less pixilation and blurryness when its in fullscreen or on tv. this is ok for a first release. its a good one to watch before seeing it in the movies with the girlfriend to have her holding your hand and being ready for when shes about to break it off.
6-6-?--watching this one tonite


Posted by hellraiseruk on 08-16-2003 07:10 PM:

can't wait to see this one..think going to wait for a better release but still nice effort..


Posted by Dirty on 08-16-2003 07:16 PM:

Ehh the picture is pretty crappy but oh well. Not bad for the first release, but if you're desperate in watching this movie then pick it up. I would wait for a much better release.
The 'hissy' sound sucks, its like there is a snake in my room or something. It isnt really crystal clear but ehh.. its watchable. Not bad for a first release of course. Havent seen the movie yet but I might check it out soon.

6/5/X


Posted by TheBeyonder on 08-16-2003 07:18 PM:

Ok my 2 cents :
Video : The colors are washed out an a lil pixelation.I guess you wont notice them on TV

Audio : Its a lill bit loud and hissy ....

Its just like all the other first releases of a cinematic , not the best but its watchable (on TV not on your monitor )

If u cant wait 4 another version , grab it ...or go to your favorite theatre


Posted by Azzido on 08-16-2003 07:23 PM:

dodgy hiss in the sound, and a waste to put on svcd...
thank god they labled it internal, most groups would have just shoved this into the scene, and not worried about the label....

dont get this if you can help it - wait and get a better quality one...

vid - 6
sound - 5
movie - ?

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Posted by ajcool on 08-16-2003 07:27 PM:

5/5/?

Nice try guys, at least it's out there now. I wanna see this but I think I'll wait for a better rip.

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Posted by DoGGy on 08-16-2003 07:55 PM:

Judging by the sample 4/4/10 the movie was An awesome film! terrific! you are guarenteed to enjoy this movie! If your a horror fan like me all i gotta say this movie kicked ass and I hope centropy releases this soon im anxious for a copy!


Posted by J Sadistik on 08-16-2003 08:08 PM:

Re: GRP'S DONT LEARN !!

quote:
Originally posted by BONGO_2003
ANOTHER CRAPY RELEASE HAS BEEN PUT ON TO SVCD!!!!

the colors are faded on this ,
the sound is fucked , so why is it on svcd?

i dont know .

you all should take note and STOP releasin CRAP QUALITY
to SVCD ...

ill wait for a BETTER copy i aint wasting my time D/L this

4/4/7




YUP couldent of said it better


Posted by pHizZ on 08-16-2003 08:19 PM:

Hey kids, guess what? It's internal. So, if you're not in loGisTic, don't bitch about the quality; they know it's not great.

Edit: 4/4/10+


Posted by Spunko on 08-16-2003 08:44 PM:

quote:
We Decided to internal as its not up to our normal standards.


Not a bad release for the first 'real' version of this flick to appear. Certainly watchable although the hiss is a bit annoying - I'm definately gonna watch this one as I've been busting a gut to see the movie. Maybe messin with the treble will sort it.
Big props to loGisTic for making this Internal as well - nice to see some groups taking pride in what they release.

6/4/*


Posted by badboyz on 08-16-2003 08:56 PM:

props for logistic for being the first to get this one out. colors are faded and sound a little loud but as one of the posters said, lots of tits in this movie and I'm totally cool with that

5/6/9


Posted by firefighter on 08-16-2003 09:04 PM:

mebby thats why it was Internal , anyway props to loGisTic for winning the race , now i hope its a quality race , Just me but in the begining of the sample it sounded like a crowd , could have been the TV *shrug. Hissing was a bit annoying , the picture reminded me of the screeners latley , full screen and blurry, pixelated. Anyway if your dying to watch this movie , this copy is watchable , if your a die hard fan , id wait for another copy.

6/4/?

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Posted by Jdigital03 on 08-16-2003 09:42 PM:

like a few others i agree this type of quality doesnt need svcd thats just my opinion tho... as for the movie i fuckin loved it waayyy better than i expected so with that said i'll be waiting for something better cuz i want to see this again with decent quality

5/4/9


Posted by LMB on 08-16-2003 09:50 PM:

bleh!

Video: 5 (watchable)
Audio: 5 (not very good, not too bad)
Movie: 4 (I was thinking that this would be a good slasher film, but it was just a little too cheesy for me. The movie could have been much better, albeit the kills were great. On the other hand, it's a hell of a lot better than Jason X and Freddy's Dead combined.)


Posted by djeazyg on 08-16-2003 10:49 PM:

Like someone else said, "At least it is out there".
First time I get a sample this soon after release and it is crappy.
Pixelated and washed out. Might look better on standalone.
The sound I just can't handle. That hiss drives me up a wall.

5/2/9

I saw this in the theaters last nite and the movie stays true to both Freddy and Jason's earlier movies. Yes, some parts are cheesy but I thought that is what was expected. I think they did a good job molding the 2 movies together.


Posted by MinisterSiniste on 08-16-2003 11:06 PM:

First I have to agree that the picture and sound are sub-standard for this release. By the way I am agreeing with logistics, who said this in the NFO for their interntal release, not with the folks here who are dissing the release.
Secondly, thank you for using SVCD every single time you can (espceially if it's still only 2 disks). Listen guys, there are many reasons for encoding to SVCD, not the least of which is---it's better wuality, always. Figure it out! It's encoded to a higher resolution. Unless these TSs are made on a web cam they are going to be closer to their original resolution with SVCD. Another major factor is that APEX has dropped support VCD, but still supports SVCD strong. So if you want to watch on a stand alone (which with this type of grain and pixelation you do) then you have to have an SVCD if you plan on using a new APEX player. Do I want to convert a crap quality vcd like this to an SVCD myself (not getting any better quality, just reencoding the lower resolution ot the format, bleh) just to watch it on stand alone? A RESOUNDING NO!
So anyways, I wish the negative asses on here would find things to bitch about that actually made some sense.
MrSin
Thanks for the early release Logictics, thanks for the SVCD, and thanks for knowing the quality doesn't meet your standards and keeping it INTERNAL.


Posted by Butch on 08-16-2003 11:18 PM:

*From Film*

Props to L0giStic for being the first to release.A lot of people going mad about this so i thought I'd take a look.I just zoomed through it but i have to say the sound is fairly buzzy maybe even can be described as a CAM.The picture is pretty fuzzy but those complaining about it being SVCD imagine what it would look like without the higher bitrate.
5/5/?

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Posted by Robert Jones on 08-16-2003 11:43 PM:

yeah big up logistic for first release, from what i read from reviews over here in england everyone has said this film sucks, i dont know if its worth bothering!, anyone recommend it?


Posted by DoGGy on 08-16-2003 11:50 PM:

i recommend you watch it in theaters


Posted by LOLobo on 08-16-2003 11:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MinisterSiniste
First I have to agree that the picture and sound are sub-standard for this release. By the way I am agreeing with logistics, who said this in the NFO for their interntal release, not with the folks here who are dissing the release.
Secondly, thank you for using SVCD every single time you can (espceially if it's still only 2 disks). Listen guys, there are many reasons for encoding to SVCD, not the least of which is---it's better wuality, always. Figure it out! It's encoded to a higher resolution. Unless these TSs are made on a web cam they are going to be closer to their original resolution with SVCD. Another major factor is that APEX has dropped support VCD, but still supports SVCD strong. So if you want to watch on a stand alone (which with this type of grain and pixelation you do) then you have to have an SVCD if you plan on using a new APEX player. Do I want to convert a crap quality vcd like this to an SVCD myself (not getting any better quality, just reencoding the lower resolution ot the format, bleh) just to watch it on stand alone? A RESOUNDING NO!
So anyways, I wish the negative asses on here would find things to bitch about that actually made some sense.
MrSin
Thanks for the early release Logictics, thanks for the SVCD, and thanks for knowing the quality doesn't meet your standards and keeping it INTERNAL.



Agree with you 110%. However, there is a hardware hack for the APEX to enable VCD views. Search Google.


Posted by psyche on 08-17-2003 12:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by MinisterSiniste
...Listen guys, there are many reasons for encoding to SVCD, not the least of which is---it's better wuality, always. Figure it out! It's encoded to a higher resolution. Unless these TSs are made on a web cam they are going to be closer to their original resolution with SVCD. Another major factor is that APEX has dropped support VCD, but still supports SVCD strong. So if you want to watch on a stand alone (which with this type of grain and pixelation you do) then you have to have an SVCD if you plan on using a new APEX player. Do I want to convert a crap quality vcd like this to an SVCD myself (not getting any better quality, just reencoding the lower resolution ot the format, bleh) just to watch it on stand alone? A RESOUNDING NO!
So anyways, I wish the negative asses on here would find things to bitch about that actually made some sense...

Encoding to SVCD does not always result in better quality. Most non-MiniDV/Analog camcorders don't even capture up to 480 lines of horizontal resolution so stretching the res. during encoding will result in poor quality. Even most of the low end/cheaper MiniDV cams are only capable of 525-640 lines of horizontal res. which when encoded to mpeg2 would result in more visible grainy/noisy video, a factor which is actually beneficial to the VCD format since it softens/reduces noise better than mpeg2 without using filters which would blur too much on that type of source. Higher res cams are great for mpeg2 since it retains the sharpness and doesn't produce as much grains. Apex may have also dropped support for SVCD BUT the majority of standalone DVD Players out there still do support VCD even more so than the amount that supports SVCD which is a small number in comparison. Also the result of high quality SVCD is not only dependant of the source, the encoder must have some encoding experience. I'm not bashing loGiStic but even their high quality sources like The Italian Job suffered from poor/inexperienced encoding and plagued by soft/pixelated video (especially during high motion/color scenes). Both of which could have been fixed by maybe using a different resizer and upping the number of passes or motion detection up a notch. American Wedding TS is a recent example of how encoding to SVCD didn't make much of an improvement over the VCD version. And as for this release, I don't usually commend groups who put it out first in subpar quality so I won't. Quality -> 4/2/?


Posted by corman on 08-17-2003 07:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by psyche
Encoding to SVCD does not always result in better quality. Most non-MiniDV/Analog camcorders don't even capture up to 480 lines of horizontal resolution so stretching the res. during encoding will result in poor quality. Even most of the low end/cheaper MiniDV cams are only capable of 525-640 lines of horizontal res. which when encoded to mpeg2 would result in more visible grainy/noisy video, a factor which is actually beneficial to the VCD format since it softens/reduces noise better than mpeg2 without using filters which would blur too much on that type of source. Higher res cams are great for mpeg2 since it retains the sharpness and doesn't produce as much grains...


exactly, couldn't have said it better. svcd is NOT always better,
4/3/x


Posted by pHizZ on 08-17-2003 08:59 AM:

The worst part about the video on this release is not the pixelation; it is the darkness. In the beginning it's REALLY dark, and it is hard to make out what is going on. Also, the colors are very washed out/faded, and there's no sound for the first 15 seconds or so. The buzz goes in and out, on the audio, but you can still understand what's going on. The video is also majorly cropped, so sometimes the character that's speaking isn't on the screen.

Edit: I'm not complaining, just reviewing the quality.


Posted by djdilemma on 08-17-2003 10:44 AM:

i guess the doc holliday strike again man the copy looks crappy,got a better copy then that


Posted by exorcist on 08-17-2003 03:52 PM:

sound is way too fuzzy and clicks in and out on occassion.

video is washed together.

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Posted by on 08-17-2003 06:37 PM:

Great Speed, But Its Fuck%d Up

Im glad its out there , Im glad its available, but what I am not happy about is the fact that the movie is missing scenes when the go to the hosipitial to get the drugs the thing jumps from scene to scene. The quality of the video is washed the sound was so bad i had to turn down my trebel to 0 just to be able to watch it, if you are in a major rush dl this if not wait for sumtin better.



4/4/10


Posted by omega59 on 08-17-2003 09:16 PM:

judging by the image it is kinda crappy. i will not download this. but it's free we shouldn't complain

*note*
good job releasing this movie already. keep up the hard work guys.


Posted by alpha_code on 08-18-2003 12:21 AM:

Video: faded and bright.. but watchable

Audio: ok

Movie: This i like


6|5|8


Posted by brr8760 on 08-18-2003 05:49 AM:

Wretched. Seriously. Good move releasing this internally. 2/2/?

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Posted by oodacoo on 08-18-2003 09:36 PM:

good release i'll wait for another copy though...can someone help me find a free mpeg 2 player...cause i was using Elecard but my "evaluation period" ended and now the elecard logo is all over the screen and i downloaded an mpeg2 codec and uninstalled elecard but i still get the dancing logo...can someone help me.


Posted by fishkeepr on 08-19-2003 12:46 AM:

just watched the first few minutes and decided i was going to wait for a better release

3/2/x


Posted by Spurs#1 on 08-20-2003 04:01 AM:

Audio-5- soundis very bad
Video-5
Movie-9- I like it very much


Posted by Wheely on 08-22-2003 08:31 PM:

Well the pic and the audio are just not up to standards.
Audio is really bad.
The movie itself is excellent.

4/4/8


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