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Posted by dc_man on 12-24-2003 10:37 PM:

OBUS is stomping a mudhole this holiday season.

8/8/8

Posted by Premiere on 12-24-2003 10:41 PM:

Obus your doing a hell of a job keep it up. Video is pixilated and has a white haze over the image. Vhs, so dont expect to much. Audio is damn good for a vhs. movie rocked a must see.

Posted by Cytrax on 12-24-2003 10:42 PM:

iNDEED Its a pity about this one tho the quality is not that good, Pixelly and breaks up in sections of the sample making it quite hard to watch, But all in all gotta be doing something right getting all of these screeners

Will be nice to see what their release of Mystic.River.SCREENER-OBUS is like aswell

6.9/7/?

Posted by ams30gts on 12-24-2003 11:16 PM:

quality looks real good to me. 8/8/9

Posted by Clessy on 12-25-2003 12:03 AM:

Damn one of my favorite movies and this screener absolutly ruined it for me. If only I could of got the sample before i burned disk 1.

Posted by vergoyer on 12-25-2003 12:27 AM:

These obus screeners are lookin a bit iffy to me
maybe just good ts

Posted by Clessy on 12-25-2003 12:34 AM:

I take what I said back. They're having just as bad of a holiday as I am. It's the thought that counted here and they at least tired.

Posted by GeNeTiX on 12-25-2003 01:04 AM:

pixelated and widescreen, makes the watchable part pretty small, kinda dark, but it is a VHS screener VCD. Probably wouldnt seem as bad if it was fullscreen.
6.5/7/7

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Posted by Copelandi on 12-25-2003 05:18 PM:

From the sample i think this looks pretty good, the audio is excellent and the video is about average for a vhs screener, didnt notice much pixelation, definately going to grab it because it doesnt hit the UK cinemas til January.

7/8/?

Posted by Seija on 12-25-2003 06:26 PM:

WS VHS Screener. By no means a bad copy of such, but the video does seem to be really small and gets pretty pixelated when blown up. The sound seems very excellent to me. Though I thought this movie was alright, I would suggest that if you see one film about Americans in Japan this year, make it "Lost in Translation".

I will personally hold out for a DVD source for the beautiful cinematography in this movie.

6/8/5

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-25-2003 09:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GeNeTiX
pixelated and widescreen, makes the watchable part pretty small, kinda dark, but it is a VHS screener VCD. Probably wouldnt seem as bad if it was fullscreen.
6.5/7/7


Actually it would be worse if it werer FS. Quality isn't THAT bad, It's very watchable, Much better than the TS's that are out, I watched the Logistic rls? or one of those, it was ok, Light to dark, dark to light, But this rls would be consistant. lol. So I will get this one until the dvd is in my hands.

7- because it's a vhs screener and honestly how good can that be?
8- VHS can, and does have pretty damn good sound
9- how much better can the movie be?

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Posted by GRAVESTORM on 12-26-2003 12:48 AM:

Well i downloaded disk 1&2 of this release and after seeing the quality i'm gonna bin them and stick with mpt release at the moment.I know i am gonna get slammed for this next comment but hey before you judge think of my piont of view this is a widescreen vhs screener and to be honest the quality would have been better if they did it in svcd format,which i honestly thought they would have done for this release and that of master and commander but no
As for the audio on this release yes it's very nice but as for picture sorry very pixellated and also very blocky in fast action sequences,this copy reminds me of them shitty tmd copies.

I'd say props to obus for these fast releases but thats all they are fast but bad quality"where are the true masters of screeners TCF?"

audio 9/10
Video 4/10

Shame for such a good film

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Posted by Leigh^ on 12-26-2003 01:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by vergoyer
These obus screeners are lookin a bit iffy to me
maybe just good ts


Oook.. retard alert.
OBUS are well known to have an academy supplier, this is almost obvious. Why on earth would OBUS label a TS a screener? It's sheer lunacy. I suggest you actually learn things about groups in the scene, and know whats what, who does what, and so forth.

Oh, and my crystal ball reckons that you'll have a revelation soon, TCF, BooZerS AND DVL are working together!!!1111

/lgh
ps. respect to jimmy tong who wears a thong proudly.

Posted by X400 on 12-26-2003 04:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by GRAVESTORM
this is a widescreen vhs screener and to be honest the quality would have been better if they did it in svcd format,which i honestly thought they would have done for this release and that of master and commander but no

Shame for such a good film


ARGHHH i cant agree more svcd would have been soooooo much better

vcds look crap on my tv :/ svcd helps it a lot oh well

6/8/10+

Posted by Muzak on 12-26-2003 06:56 AM:

i just dont see how these groups are having such problems capping from vhs. fuck, all i use is my dv cam hooked to my vcr to cap my vhs tapes to vcd, and they look 10x better than this. if i took the time to go to svcd, you would be hard pressed to see the difference between my copy, and a mid quality dvd rip. and i aint using no fancy equipment, i guarantee that.

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Originally posted by pHo
ok, well in future when you join a community that is very anti-sellers, you really should choose a username that isn't going to cause confusion and annoyance. its like joinin an arabic forum with the name BUSHRULES because you like the australian outback.

Posted by kurisu on 12-26-2003 08:12 AM:

what i don't get is why no one ever complains about the fact that none of the obus rlses are 100% vcd compliant! sound skips and jerks on my philips dvd players, and when i checked the stream encoding was indeed not standard compliant and i had to re-encode the entire movie (which taken about 2.5 hours per cd on my ghetto pc)... after i did this, these movies work perfectly!

Posted by Leigh^ on 12-26-2003 11:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Muzak
i just dont see how these groups are having such problems capping from vhs. fuck, all i use is my dv cam hooked to my vcr to cap my vhs tapes to vcd, and they look 10x better than this. if i took the time to go to svcd, you would be hard pressed to see the difference between my copy, and a mid quality dvd rip. and i aint using no fancy equipment, i guarantee that.


Yes, but you're not being fair in this situation, OBUS's supplier is probably an Academy reviewer - well, more likely to be the friend of one perhaps - either way, I'm sure they haven't got enough time with the tapes, and secondly, they may just not have the hardware to perform the required tasks for a good quality rip.

/lgh

Posted by xenomorph on 12-26-2003 12:57 PM:

by the sample pic is slightly pixalated but sound is v good
7/8/9

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Posted by Muzak on 12-26-2003 05:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by kurisu
what i don't get is why no one ever complains about the fact that none of the obus rlses are 100% vcd compliant! sound skips and jerks on my philips dvd players, and when i checked the stream encoding was indeed not standard compliant and i had to re-encode the entire movie (which taken about 2.5 hours per cd on my ghetto pc)... after i did this, these movies work perfectly!
i understand that, but if they are going to play the game, they need the right tools. like i said, all im talking about is a dv cam, nothing big either. and a vcr. if they have time to watch the movie once, they have time to cap it right. i can do an hour and a half tape in about 3 1/2 to 4 hours, and thats including the time to cap to dv tape, then capture to harddrive, then to encode. its really not that hard.

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Originally posted by pHo
ok, well in future when you join a community that is very anti-sellers, you really should choose a username that isn't going to cause confusion and annoyance. its like joinin an arabic forum with the name BUSHRULES because you like the australian outback.

Posted by s|ne on 12-26-2003 06:32 PM:

hey im just asking seeing as these films are comming from vhs
wouldnt there be a chance that some are older gen copies of the film, or would they be all from master copies, some could be better than others in terms of quality to start off right ?
i dont know im just speculating maybee this could account for the
quality.

Posted by ams30gts on 12-26-2003 10:30 PM:

sound is excellent. video is pretty pixelated. decent

6/8/9

Posted by houseman on 12-26-2003 11:20 PM:

video - 7
audio - 8
movie - 6

Vhs Screener ----> widescreen ----> vcd -----> 27 inch TV ---- subtitles ------ = TIME TO GET A BIGGER TV!

Posted by M112_04 on 12-26-2003 11:29 PM:

Nice Release

Dang OBUS...you guys or girls are worthy...this is a great release shocking its still 3 disc even in VCD format. But never mind its nice very nice. The Pixelation isn't a big idea..its small compared to the sound and quallity of the pic...its a great screener keep it up...

video 8...looks nice on the computer..but looks wonderful on the t.v.
audio.9..its great loud and super clear..
overall...8...great freak'n movie...nice as hell screener...waiting on a dvdrip until then..

Posted by lewishamjas on 12-27-2003 04:18 PM:

Video: 3/4, grainy, extremly pixilated for a VHS screener(or infact even a "cam"!), slightly cropped, action scenes had quite some blur!

Audio: 6/7, dont know why people think its superb, its O.K, nothing special

Movie: 7

Well, I think the MPT's TS was better video quality than this one, stopped watching after 30 mins as the video quality was rubbish, seems like they did a TS from a television lol

Posted by unique on 12-29-2003 05:18 AM:

watched this in theaters last night..i love the old japanese culture and this film potraid it perfectly.great movie, a must see!! 9/10

as of this release....waitin for a dvd source. vhs screeners look like crap on my 53"

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Posted by JohnGoodie on 12-29-2003 09:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lewishamjas
Video: 3/4, grainy, extremly pixilated for a VHS screener(or infact even a "cam"!), slightly cropped, action scenes had quite some blur!


just curious as to what rating scale you are using... anyways... video is pixelated but it isn't that bad...

8/9/9

Posted by Nusphere on 12-29-2003 11:52 PM:

the TS was less pixelated but had worse sound. this rls wouldve been better at fS.

This movie was awesome and you should see it in theatres first. Go now -> and use up your free passes

good release;
7/8/10
(based upon it being scr. src)

Posted by Doolitt1e on 01-04-2004 05:53 PM:

Re: Nice Release

quote:
Originally posted by M112_04
Dang OBUS...you guys or girls are worthy...this is a great release shocking its still 3 disc even in VCD format.



I was wondering why this is on 3 discs as well. The movie runtime is 154 minutes, you can get 160 minutes on 2 vcds, so why 3 discs??

Ratings based on vhs source and the first 5 mins of disc 2:
7/9/?

Posted by Cyru5 on 01-05-2004 11:24 PM:

Just watched it and loved the movie. The video was pixilated and subtitles were sometimes hard to read, but overall not a bad release.

Video - 6
Audio - 8
Movie - 8

Posted by vcd099 on 01-06-2004 01:39 AM:

nice release.

7.8/8.0/8.5

great movie.

Posted by KaiKo on 01-06-2004 11:53 PM:

ummm....

did anyone else notice that they actually cut the Sample out of the rls rather than just extracting it? :/

at the end of cd1 it cuts where the fight should be... but the sample has most of the fight...

eh?!?! that got me really confused

edit :: actually, there are some rather large gaps between both cd changes, unfortunate

Posted by kennyg_uk on 01-08-2004 10:31 PM:

OBUS have done it again, thumbs way up for speedy rls but as with the Lost In Translation screener, the video looks like it was captured through my ass and encoded at 500kps instead of 1150kps. It gets very pixelly with fire and during battle scenes and the subs aren't too easy to read.

Audio is fine though.

Posted by Barloue on 01-10-2004 07:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by KaiKo
ummm....

did anyone else notice that they actually cut the Sample out of the rls rather than just extracting it? :/

at the end of cd1 it cuts where the fight should be... but the sample has most of the fight...

eh?!?! that got me really confused

edit :: actually, there are some rather large gaps between both cd changes, unfortunate



are you using vcdgear to extract the bin/cue to mpg?

if so youll need to get a newer version or change some of your settings cause there is no gap between the cds at all. cd1 ends exactly where cd2 starts and same for cd2 - 3. (im in the habit of checking this when extracting the films because of the same previous errors ) .i used to have the same problem with certain releases but since updating vcdgear dont have these probs anymore.

as for the film havent had a chance to watch it yet but am quite looking forward to it .

Posted by Indiana Jones on 01-15-2004 02:02 AM:

Give me a screener over a telesync any day, just grabbed it, not bad seeing as its only been out a week here in the UK, pretty amazing they got it with all the fuss being made over Screeners at the moment.

Video = 7/10
Audio = 8/10
Movie = 9/10

Posted by Indiana Jones on 01-16-2004 06:10 PM:

Just thought I would point out that you dont need to re-encode the movie to get it to be vcd compliant, just load them into TMPGEnc, select MPEG Tools, then Merge & Cut, then load in each seperate file and change from MPEG-1 System to MPEG-1 VideoCD, this only take 5 mins and will output a vcd compliant file.

Posted by BLUE-NEO on 01-25-2004 10:19 AM:

I don't know why people are saying this looks bad..this looks great for a vhs screener..and looks amazing on my t.v..

8/8/9 Great Film..

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Posted by tony532 on 02-03-2004 07:46 PM:

not sure if any cares or is interested in my opinion as this has been out for ages but. the video quality is terrible 16x16 pixel blocks all over the video. the sound is damn good though

Posted by El'Marko-- on 02-04-2004 10:25 PM:

vcd's are terrible

why do groups insist on ruining all their releases by making them a terrible quality vcd instead of a great quality svcd?????
svcds might be a bit bigger but i think that having decent picture quality is well worth a little extra size. i really dont understand the logic behind taking a vhs screener and making it an almost unwatchable vcd because its already poor quality in the first place, at least make it an svcd to keep the quality poor, and not terrible.
anybody else agree with me on this one or what???

Posted by krutselno on 02-14-2004 08:19 PM:

The video of this release is far from great, if it wasn't for the fact that I was really bored and had nothing else to watch I did see the whole movie.....the movie was great though

Video 6
Audio 8
Movie 9

Posted by goodfella925 on 02-19-2004 08:10 AM:

I expected better quality from the screener but it was VHS.
The audio was pretty clear and didn't sound bad on my small computer speakers.
The movie hit one of my top 10 favorites.

6/7/10
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