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Posted by Micro9mm on 03-31-2004 11:13 PM:

hopefully this is just a switched nfo?


Posted by crackerjax on 04-01-2004 02:46 AM:

it's sad that a group the size of DzN can't get a decent .nfo gen to make it's own .nfo files so they don't have to worry about pre'ing with the right ones, that's pathetic.

another DzN bomb, why do they bother, sucky quality, could be more of a bitrate ... anywho, I'm going to try to finish this one up not the best movie.

7/8/x


Posted by porco556 on 04-01-2004 06:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by crackerjax
it's sad that a group the size of DzN can't get a decent .nfo gen to make it's own .nfo files so they don't have to worry about pre'ing with the right ones, that's pathetic.

another DzN bomb, why do they bother, sucky quality, could be more of a bitrate ... anywho, I'm going to try to finish this one up not the best movie.

7/8/x


Umm, video is untouched and so is the sound... No DTS on the retail, only 5.1 English and 2.0 French. This ain't getting any better no matter what group does it. This release has the equal picture and sound quality as the retail. No extras, but who cares, buy it if you want them. Nice work DZN

As for the NFO, wrong name... Second time in a row they did that mistake (Brother Bear was the last one). Stoopid mistake. Not like they are busy with tons of releases lately as it's been sooo slow.

Video = retail 1:1
Audio = retail 1:1, French cut
Extras = zero
NFO = zero But we know what we are downloading... So who cares.

SIDENOTE: There were TOO many extras on this DVD. So the video sucking is purely Columbia's fault. They should have made this a 2 disc set. 125 min movie plus all those damn extras... eek.


Posted by JoshNya on 04-01-2004 06:56 AM:

How do u know if it's untouched? It's clear the nfo is hosed, so that part of the nfo could be wrong too.


Posted by porco556 on 04-01-2004 03:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoshNya
How do u know if it's untouched? It's clear the nfo is hosed, so that part of the nfo could be wrong too.

True... However with all those extras on a single disc, I would tend to believe it is untouched. And besides, what do they have to gain from lying. Just because the NFO has the wrong name doesn't mean the rest of it is crap. Look at the House of Sand and Fog NFO and then this one, beside the name, there is no similarity. It's like saying if the first question on your test is wrong, then the rest of your answers are wrong too.

I guess this will only be settled if a) a "proper" gets released, or b) end of April when the retail hits the shelves. I believe DzN on this one though. 3 gigs of extras is not hard to believe... Here is the list:

3 Character Journey Featurettes - Edward Bloom at Large, Amos at the Circus, Fathers and Sons

4 Filmmakers' Path Featurettes - Tim Burton, The Storyteller - A Fairytale World - Creature Features - The Author's Journey

Director's Commentary

The Finer Points - A Trivia Quiz.


Posted by Enzomatrx on 04-02-2004 03:51 AM:

Jeez, all those extras and a 1 DVD release? Columbia usually is better about these things.
Maybe they didn't see the money or interest in a "2 Disc Special Edition" of Big Fish.

Shame really.


Posted by pHo on 04-02-2004 05:07 AM:

extras list isn't that huge, are there times for the featurettes? some probably last a few mins at most, and a commentry takes up next to nothing. and a quiz? can't see that being at 5000kbit on the retail, so i wouldn't say this was a 2dvd job. heck, if i bought it and popped in the 2nd dvd and all there was staring at me were a few featurettes (probably of the same awesome viewing quality as most other featurettes. ie, late night tv free adveritising fodder) and a quiz, i'd be a bit miffed

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Posted by porco556 on 04-02-2004 05:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
extras list isn't that huge, are there times for the featurettes? some probably last a few mins at most, and a commentry takes up next to nothing. and a quiz? can't see that being at 5000kbit on the retail, so i wouldn't say this was a 2dvd job. heck, if i bought it and popped in the 2nd dvd and all there was staring at me were a few featurettes (probably of the same awesome viewing quality as most other featurettes. ie, late night tv free adveritising fodder) and a quiz, i'd be a bit miffed

Tim Burton has lots too talk about I guess

Either way, one DVD, 7 featurettes, 1 director's commentary, 1 quiz + the 125 minute movie on 1 DVD is apparantely the retail.

Who knows, the retail will probably have trailers and "sneak peaks" and other stuff on it too. I guess we'll just have to wait till it's on the shelves.


Posted by lostaznguy on 04-02-2004 11:08 AM:

I think the nfo isnt wrong...Been waiting to see this... Even though it aint good, i'll judge it when i see it!


Posted by thredworm on 04-02-2004 11:01 PM:

Just got through watching this. It's a nice release, nothing special. Not sure whether I was hearing things but there seemed to be a bit of distortion in the audio? Picture was very nice though.

8/8/7

Good film, but not as dark as you'd expect from Burton.


Posted by Mercenary13 on 04-03-2004 01:46 AM:

BAH its fullscreen wtf


Posted by porco556 on 04-03-2004 02:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mercenary13
BAH its fullscreen wtf

UMM, no it is not. It's 1.77:1...


Posted by ams30gts on 04-03-2004 02:41 AM:

subs are messed up. they dont automatically come on in english when their is a different language being spoken. has to be switched on manually. anyone got a fix for this possibly?


Posted by ams30gts on 04-03-2004 02:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mercenary13
BAH its fullscreen wtf



another person commenting on this b4 they have even seen it.

dumbass


Posted by Mercenary13 on 04-03-2004 02:50 AM:

oh shut it I have it I think it may be the shit apex cause works ok on pc and dvd is suppose to be ws


Posted by JoshNya on 04-03-2004 03:17 AM:

Ya whatever DzN uses to make their DVDrs with does play the movie FS and subs come on sometimes too on my RCA dvd player. It's probably the 1click program they use. I just have to play them on my other player. (Sony)


Posted by pHo on 04-03-2004 06:15 PM:

authored incredibly poorly. subs didn't come up when they were supposed to (so i had to rewind the scene when i realised i was supposed to understand what they were saying) and even tho it played in correct AR, if i paused it and then restarted it'd be in FS for a second or so. also, at end of movie it simply stops rather than going back to menu (slight niggle, but a fault nonetheless)

can see an internal being done properly due to silly things like this, but i doubt it'll be propered. i'll probably buy it just for the commentry, cos it was bloody brilliant.

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Posted by porco556 on 04-03-2004 09:58 PM:

Hmm, I didn't get a single problem with the release on either standalone player or computer... That's pretty funky stuff. I guess I am just lucky

I wonder if there is a forced subtitle track for the Chinese speech. Guess we will have to see it on the retail. Makes no sense for them to cut that (would be ~2 megs on the DVD). But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if it was messed up. IF the chinese speech was on during regular subtitle track, then most likely there was not force subtitle track. Anyone know if there were subs in the theater for the diff lang speech?

However, doubt this was done with a 1 click proggy If it was, then these problems wouldn't be happening

The movie was pretty good actually... Little slow paced, but a decent Tim Burton meets Forest Gump kind of movie.


Posted by Mercenary13 on 04-03-2004 10:36 PM:

Any ideas how to fix the FS problem the menu loads WS but when you start playing its FS.


Posted by mew on 04-04-2004 01:30 AM:

Wouldn't be the first time DzN put out a one-click rip thats works poorly, and the subs issue and the other issues make it seem as if it isnt untouched after all, otherwise it should be pretty much flawless unless they fucked up the stripping which is kinda hard even for DzN.


Posted by porco556 on 04-04-2004 03:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by mew
Wouldn't be the first time DzN put out a one-click rip thats works poorly, and the subs issue and the other issues make it seem as if it isnt untouched after all, otherwise it should be pretty much flawless unless they fucked up the stripping which is kinda hard even for DzN.

Or there are no forced subs in the movie for the foreign speech... Kinda like Snatch, the pikey speaking wasn't forced subbed (like it wasn't in theaters either).


Posted by lincocn on 04-04-2004 02:05 PM:

Thumbs down no subs +

If all goes right, nuked for get proper...here is hoping...


Posted by Mercenary13 on 04-05-2004 12:23 AM:

Yes I agree it should be nuked for a bad rip and no subtitles svcd is also missing subtitiles.


Posted by porco556 on 04-05-2004 04:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by lincocn
If all goes right, nuked for get proper...here is hoping...

quote:
Originally posted by Mercenary13
Yes I agree it should be nuked for a bad rip and no subtitles svcd is also missing subtitiles.

Found out there were no subs in the theater run during the "foreign" speech, so most likely they won't be on the retail DVD either. This is an assumption though, but usually subs in theaters would be hard subs printed directly on the print, not soft subs. Which might mean no forced subs are there on purpose for a reason only the DC can explain (which was cut), or to maintain the way it was shown in theaters.

Rip is fine... At most a PPF patch is all that would be needed to fix up some of the authoring. Took me few minutes to fix it myself. Definitely doesn't warrant a "proper" nor a "nuke", at most an internal release with a few extras might come out.

People are just too wasteful these days


Posted by pHo on 04-05-2004 04:23 AM:

the subs are on the disc, they just don't appear automatically you have to turn them on yourself. however there's no dedicated track for just that section, so either it turns them on and off very quickly, or there's a missing subtrack.

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Posted by BLUE-NEO on 04-05-2004 05:17 AM:

I really don't care about the subs, didn't remember them being on the screener either. I love this movie and my rip was fine. Limited about of chapters and a second disc with the extras would be nice to see as well. Lets just hope it will come soon like the Matrix Revolutions did.

8/9/10

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Posted by omega59 on 04-08-2004 10:47 PM:

did anyone noticed that the text is cut off on the sides??
also it is FS :P


Posted by Mercenary13 on 04-08-2004 10:49 PM:

It's not actually FS I got it to play normal with xbox media player. But my dvd player plays it as fullscreen.


Posted by pHo on 04-09-2004 12:25 AM:

i care about the subs because it tells you part of the story!

and the fs problem is probably down to bad flags i guess, so some dvd players are fine some aren't.

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Posted by omega59 on 04-09-2004 02:15 AM:

the movie was great. there english subs worked fine the french one's were okay i guess, i didn't have them on long enough to see any problems i guess. the only problem was the text at the start was cut off on the sides. my dvd player (sony) played it as full-screen but on pc it was WS with the video switching to WS back and forth.

:P


Posted by porco556 on 04-09-2004 05:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
i care about the subs because it tells you part of the story!

and the fs problem is probably down to bad flags i guess, so some dvd players are fine some aren't.


But if you were sitting in the theater, you wouldn't have the subs either... So technically, it's like you saw it in theaters

Back to the WS/FS thing for the others:

Either way, this release is sounding messed up... The whole FS/WS thing is strange... There is no indication that the movie is FS in the IFOs. I did HAVE a similar problem with Finding Nemo at my GFs parents place. Their DVD player was set to pan and scan 4:3 instead of letterbox 4:3 (or was it the other way around... should be what I just wrote though). Only affects 4:3 TVs on certain movies. This could be one of them, not sure, don't have a 4:3 TV to test it out


Posted by pHo on 04-10-2004 01:35 AM:

i can't believe they wouldn't have shown that sequence subtitled in the cinema.. makes no sense to include a translation subtitled and then not to show anyone except the deaf :P without the subs, the scene makes very little sense, so the dvd is bound to have flags to turn them on at that point. otherwise its just dumb.

a lot of prints these days have no english onscreen text in order to ship the same print worldwide, the onsceen text is then displayed with switched subs. take Usual Suspects for example, because on the UK release at least, they bodged it up at the beginning (doesn't say 6 Months Earlier) , and i expect they've used the same method here.

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Posted by porco556 on 04-10-2004 09:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
i can't believe they wouldn't have shown that sequence subtitled in the cinema.. makes no sense to include a translation subtitled and then not to show anyone except the deaf :P without the subs, the scene makes very little sense, so the dvd is bound to have flags to turn them on at that point. otherwise its just dumb.

Hmm, well I guess we'll have to wait a couple more days to find out till the retail.

My guess why there are no subs (that is of course assuming I am correct about my cinema/DVD theory) is that the main character is making shit up on the spot in his elaborate stories (especially that he learned the language on the plane right before jumping). I also swear that the languages are switching between cantonese in the beginning to mandarin mid way through. Would have to watch it again to see for sure. Also funny that the twins spoke English in the beginning, but he then chose to speak chinese instead (this I would also have to re-watch to verify). So assuming I am correct, I bet most of the conversation didn't make sense to begin with. I hope my memory is working and the two points above are valid

Anyone out there know Mandarin? Need translation


Posted by ThrashNCarve on 04-11-2004 05:34 AM:

I too was very disappointed when I saw that it was Fullscreen. I was thinking, why would anybody want FS except for those naive little kids or old people that don't realize what the black bars are really for. But then I read this thread and tried it on my PC and it really is Widescreen. I don't know why it does that my DVD player(Denon av700) plays the movie as fullscreen. Guess I will use my TV-out to watch this one.


Posted by pHo on 04-11-2004 01:34 PM:

the girls are speaking mandarin (from memory) whilst the guards are speaking korean, hence the lang changes. and u don't need a translation, just press the subs button at the right place, its not the fact the subs are missing its the fact they don't show up at the appropriate time.

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Posted by ThrashNCarve on 04-12-2004 03:38 AM:

I finally fixed my problem and was able to get widescreen on my DVD player. All the other DVD's I have played, which were all rentals, played widescreen automatically. This release of Bigfish was different. I was able to force widescreen by going into my video options and changing the display settings. I had to choose from:
4:3
4:3 LB
16:9 Widescreen

I switched over to 4:3 LB and voila! Bigfish is now forced to widescreen mode. Maybe this will help some of you who were stuck with Fullscreen.

: i expect you'll lose some resolution that way, but its a good temp fix for those with probs. -pHo


Posted by ThrashNCarve on 04-13-2004 08:59 AM:

There wasn't any loss from what I could see. It was better than playing it through my TV-out, that's for sure.


Posted by safri_duo_nut on 04-26-2004 12:42 AM:

Sorry about late entry but why hasent this release been nuked yet? The last chapter is missing. The film just stops and goes back to the menu and starts playing the film again. This is poor. Especialy when ur whole family is watching it and the film goes tits up on you!


Posted by pHo on 04-26-2004 03:26 AM:

played all the way thru for me. bad burn?

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Posted by dekehead on 04-26-2004 05:42 AM:

Played perfect for me... I was another victim of the 'FS' problem... Instead of forcing the movie to WS, i simply zoomed out one click, and it was fine for me... Granted, it was a tad smaller, but not enough to bother me.


Posted by ThrashNCarve on 04-26-2004 07:09 AM:

Played fine for me too. I liked it a lot.


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