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Posted by Rep- on 04-20-2004 07:19 AM:

I wouldn't expect this poor of quality from TCF. Lacks color.. greatly. The sound is alright, but definitely not one of TCF's finest.
6/7/x


Posted by ^Om3n on 04-20-2004 07:34 AM:

How does this compare to the sWs release ?

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Posted by firefighter on 04-20-2004 07:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ^Om3n
How does this compare to the sWs release ?


A bit better but not by much. Framrate is screwed at a low 23.97 fps , Colors are washed, Sound has a buzz to it when turned up. Watchable but not "great". Personally not in a rush to see this movie so gonna wait for a PROPER or a Screener.

As a TS:
5/6/?

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Posted by 459 on 04-20-2004 08:27 AM:

I have been waiting to see this and didn't want to try sws... maybe ftf.. but I never like sws I have managed ftf versiond though.... but this version I was hoping better but god I hope for a Proper or another release in a few days or I'll hit this one.

7.5/7/X


Posted by huggy on 04-20-2004 09:17 AM:

a bit of a let down with this release from a group rated so high up the ranks. still, beggers can't be choosers.

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Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 04-20-2004 09:18 AM:

Not too bad quality, but should of left as vcd. Stick to what you do best TCF.

7/7/?

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Posted by ^Om3n on 04-20-2004 09:52 AM:

Thanks firefighter, not in a hurry to see it either, have very low expectations for this film.

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Posted by lickmyzack on 04-20-2004 10:34 AM:

anyone know of a good site with an indepth tutorial on how to re-encode from Pal 23.97 fps, to NTSC 29.97 fps?

I have TMPGEnc Plus Ver.2.58.44.152, and I think it's supposed to do it but they really don't give good directions on how to use their products and i'm not that experienced with it... but a fassssst learner :-)

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Posted by brr8760 on 04-20-2004 10:39 AM:

personally, i think this is a LOT better than the sws release. muted colors, a tad dark, but the frame rate is fine. i hope tcf does more svcd ts's, personally. 7/7/?


Posted by turkey on 04-20-2004 01:34 PM:

quote:
[i] how to re-encode from Pal 23.97 fps, to NTSC 29.97 fps?

LMZ [/B]


Dont mean to be funny, but 23.97 is NTSC...... also if you put "23.97 fps" in google the first dam link is a tutorial on how to encode from 23.97 fps to 29.97 in tmpeg, all be it with an avi, but the principle is the same and the magic 3:2 pulldown setting is shown.

Anyhow back to quality, looks pretty poor, for a film ill prolly only half watch one night pissed. so will do.

6.5/7/?
colours not that bad, not with beer goggles anyhow


Posted by djj on 04-20-2004 01:50 PM:

A bit better than sWs' release but not much. Colors are a bit washed and sound does have a buzz to it. I guess this could be rated watchable. Haven't seen the movie yet as I'm not in a hurry to see this, low expectations, you see?

6/6/x

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Posted by cazuk on 04-20-2004 01:56 PM:

not great.....think i'll wait
5/5/???


Posted by seanoell on 04-20-2004 04:26 PM:

Tcf Really LEt me down on this one boo boo 5/5/7


Posted by keepitreal on 04-20-2004 05:44 PM:

thank you tcf very good work i give it a 7.7.6
i watched the whole think not just making fake comments


Posted by bob0r on 04-20-2004 09:59 PM:

Noone seems to have downloaded the sWs, but as i posted in there, it is only LEFT audio channel! only the sample is good.

As for TCF, video 6 audio 5, could have been better, but the good TSes will come in june or so, or a screener...


Posted by crackerjax on 04-20-2004 11:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by turkey
Dont mean to be funny, but 23.97 is NTSC...... also if you put "23.97 fps" in google the first dam link is a tutorial on how to encode from 23.97 fps to 29.97 in tmpeg, all be it with an avi, but the principle is the same and the magic 3:2 pulldown setting is shown.


actually the last time I checked 23.97 is PAL & 29.97 is NTSC, so the question is valid, although it should have been asked on the newbie forum ... if you google 23.97 it shows as PAL, not NTSC, but think what you will ...

good quality, shitty movie ...

7/7.5/2 ... huge let down!


Posted by NeVeRLiFt on 04-21-2004 12:04 AM:

23.97fps = Film

25fps = PAL

29.97fps = NTSC


www.doom9.org or www.dvdrhelp.com both offer FAQ's and guides


Posted by voxbox on 04-21-2004 12:58 AM:

much better than sws, but then again so is everything

6.5/7

decent movie, not on the same level as Spiderman though


Posted by syphersinc on 04-21-2004 01:56 AM:

Vid is kinda washed out. better than sWs tho


Posted by Wesb0b on 04-21-2004 03:00 AM:

6x5x6 Decent movie if ya got some time to spare.

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Posted by Mystic Slippe on 04-21-2004 03:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by crackerjax
actually the last time I checked 23.97 is PAL & 29.97 is NTSC, so the question is valid, although it should have been asked on the newbie forum ...


PAL is actually 25.00fps


Posted by Phi on 04-21-2004 07:57 AM:

n00bs Shouldnt Answer Questions

First off NeVeRLiFt thanks you for step'n up with the real nfo and some good linkz for'em to read up at.

As for the flick, not bad for one of TCF's classic TS's. Only watched 5min but color seems washed and sound issues only really a problem at a very high volume.

6/7/?


Posted by kokukola on 04-21-2004 10:50 AM:

Just finished watching this and I gotta say I am not impressed. I think Thomas Jane (the punisher) did a better job at acting in "61" than he did in this role. Anyways, the sound was good and the video was ok. I think this copy deserves 5's across the board. 5/5/5


Posted by Samantha on 04-21-2004 11:49 AM:

Thumbs up

This was a good movie...not the usual for TCF..but sound was good and the picture was very watchable.
Good Job

Very Nice

I'd have to rate this flick a 7/7/8


Posted by dalton4life on 04-21-2004 05:05 PM:

Grainy, the colors aren't really washed out but they are not as saturated as they could be and they seem to be a little off. Jade looks ok as the Punisher to me although Nick Cage with black hair would've been great. It could have been a Face Off reunion.

6.5/7/?

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Posted by BLUE-NEO on 04-21-2004 09:11 PM:

I think alot of people are voting off the JPEG or just have shitty monitors. But I just finish getting this and I watched it on the pc. Colors look fine along with the sound. Watched it on T.V. and looks even better. So it looks fine.

7/9/8

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Posted by desertboy on 04-21-2004 09:35 PM:

Typical TCF TS 6.5/7/5

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Posted by punzada on 04-21-2004 10:45 PM:

I'm probably one of the few people that liked this movie, probably because i expected i was going to and was in a good mood when i saw it, good enough release for me, nicely done with no major errors (just the occasional top of a head in a corner near the bottom), 6/6/9


Posted by bryehn on 04-21-2004 11:58 PM:

not that bad at all.

little dark, and faded...sound has a buzz...movie was junk.

7/7/5

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Posted by Bazacko on 04-22-2004 12:15 AM:

Yeah, the vid's a little washed out, but very watchable. The audio is good, don't know why ppl think it's only in the left channel.
6/7/x

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Posted by cfm on 04-22-2004 02:48 PM:

Average quality. Definetly watchable.

Plot started good but then sorta died off.

V: 6.5
S:6
M:6


Posted by Soprano_Man on 04-22-2004 04:06 PM:

Looks damn good on the TV so that's all that matters. Sound is decent too. Best Marvel movie yet....


Posted by LOLobo on 04-22-2004 06:43 PM:

Watch full rls last night . . .

If you already have this rls, it is just fine. Good enough to watch and understand everything. iMPERIAL proper might be getting nuked for dumb reasons, but if you already have (or are dl'ing) this rls, stick with it.

If I would have waited, I'd likly get iMPERIALs rls, after confirming it had no issues.

7/6/6

*Way better than Hulk, not even close to Spiderman.


Posted by NeVeRLiFt on 04-22-2004 07:58 PM:

Watched the full release last night, I adjusted the contrast/brightness and saturation and this looked pretty good on my TV.. looked great sometimes. It could have been better and use a little more bit rate for the fast motion scenes. The sound was very good. The release could have been better but over all it was very watchable and I feel it was a good action adventure movie. I do feel the movies could have had better car chase scene I mean there gonna use them old cool ass cars (I love the Roadrunner) then they should have had a small chase scene showing them cars off!

I rate the movie...

Video = 7
Sound = 8.5
Overall = 8 (would have been 9 with better car chase scene showing off the Roadrunner)


Posted by lo.pro on 04-22-2004 11:24 PM:

as mentioned above, 23.976 is FILM framerate, not PAL.

FILM is a perfectly acceptable framerate & is in line with (S)VCD specs.

in fact, FILM often is better than NTSC, both because it doesn't have duped frames (because of pulldown) and therefore can be less 'jerky', but also because the bitrate is spread over a fewer number of frames and can therefore give a better quality image per frame.

this is not to say that this release had a better quality image than any other, just saying that there's nothing wrong with FILM frame rate. personally, i prefer FILM to NTSC (particularly in a VCD release).

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Posted by gosh on 04-22-2004 11:30 PM:

just watched this on standalone. I didn't have any problems with this release.

video: 7, typical TS. Colors were a little bit off, at one point i saw a head briefly on the screen from the audience
audio: 8, good direct source
movie: 7, not a bad movie but not that great either. I found it very gruesome and gory.

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Posted by RUiNU on 04-23-2004 03:07 AM:

Just watched this , Nice job on my 27in tv , sound was also good . Nice work .

7/7/8

No need to grab proper if you have this one!


Posted by renegade on 04-23-2004 07:51 AM:

Just found some time to view this release. I had already dl this and checked the imperial sample. Based on the imperial sample I didnt see a need to re dl this. Decent little silver they picked up and if you already got this release it's watchable, I doubt imperials release is a major proper.

6/6/7


Posted by polo_bear on 04-24-2004 12:24 PM:

watched this yeterday,was afraid to,as every1 saying get imperial,but thought this release was great.
pic good ,sound good.more than watchable.i wont need to download any other version as it wasnt very good.
if u got this 1 keep it,as its better than most ts that been released as of late.


Posted by ShadyInc on 04-24-2004 10:22 PM:

Haven't seen the whole movie, and don't much care to. However, judging by the sample this is a decent quality release.

6/6/?


Posted by acme420 on 04-25-2004 03:37 AM:

Decent Video and sound, but the movie was weaksauce.

7/7/5

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Posted by Inise on 04-28-2004 11:07 PM:

i just grabbed this for the hek of it. the quality is actually good


7.5/7.5/x


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