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Posted by GermanGuy on 01-11-2004 02:54 PM:

this is nothing special...

just a reencode from the esoteric source, made with PV Author (w³.packetvideo.com) it's funny to watch it in a train or somewhere else, but not good for eyes


Posted by pinheads_hell on 01-11-2004 04:18 PM:

oh dudes what are you doing?!don't post such releases!moviez for mobile telephones!


Posted by TigerLord on 01-11-2004 04:26 PM:

No NFO, no JPEG... Re-encode of an already ugly release ?

Nuke


Posted by SycoCowz on 01-11-2004 06:25 PM:

ha, this is crazy

lotr on my phone

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Posted by revolution-x on 01-11-2004 06:50 PM:

??

i dont get it, what is it ? a movie that goes on a nokia phone?
someone please explain


Posted by GermanGuy on 01-11-2004 06:55 PM:

Re: ??

quote:
Originally posted by revolution-x
i dont get it, what is it ? a movie that goes on a nokia phone?
someone please explain



yes, this movie got a smal file size, for example 20 oder 40mb ( I don't know exaktly, but unter 100 mb I think) and with Irda, Bluetooth oder a Datacable you can take it on a Mobilephone, for more nfo's look @ w³.packetvideo.com


Posted by EViL-EWoK on 01-11-2004 07:10 PM:

wow...... wow.....
I am stunned this is incredible..

who cares if its not in standards for the scene but jesus this is great.

Im loading it on my phone asap!

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Posted by hooah_punk on 01-11-2004 07:20 PM:

This is actually pretty interesting, I don't own one of these phones, but if people can release movies like this that actually watchable, it might be worth investing in one. Sorry, I have comment on the quality of the release, just wanted to comment. Has anyone watched this on the phone yet and has any comments?

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Posted by dj_linz6 on 01-11-2004 07:41 PM:

seems a bit weird to actually release this? its not too hard to do it yourself and reencode to a low bitrate mpeg/divx for mobile viewing..

pretty cool that phones can play divx and mpeg nowadays! and its not really expensive to get one of these phones.. i got my spv e200 smartphone free on a contract with orange!

although mobile video playback is a bit of a novelty atm! only really good for showing off


Posted by Scorch on 01-11-2004 07:48 PM:

Bluetooth.. hmm.. I don't have one, but can anyone confirm if it'll work on an NGage? That would give me a reason to buy one


Posted by Liife on 01-11-2004 07:50 PM:

This is pretty damn ingenius. I wish I lived in Europe, where we could actually use those nice colour screens on our phones for something OTHER than playing shitty Java games.

Sigh.

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Posted by GermanGuy on 01-11-2004 08:14 PM:

yes, I wasn't sure if it's allowed to post direkt links, sry...

@Scorch
They don't work on a Ngage Phone, but another German Group release Movies for the Ngage Cards...

I haven't got THIS release, but this crew released a lot of Movies in the 3gp format, and I've got a rip of "Austin Powers - Goldmember" on my Phone and it's watchable, but very very little


Posted by Scorch on 01-11-2004 08:24 PM:

Ah well. Still no reason to buy an NGage then

They don't make movies for Motorola phones, do they?


Posted by GermanGuy on 01-11-2004 08:31 PM:

I'm not sure, but I think the 3gp format works on Motorola Phones, because it isn't a Nokia only format!

look @ www.packetvideo.com there are some phones they work with 3gp


Posted by on 01-11-2004 08:54 PM:

My jesus murphy!

Are we gonna have to make a separate section for this horrifying piece of technology? The idea is there, and theres always people trying to make cool stuff but honestly, a movie on a phone? pretty lame man. Your going to need maybe 4 batteries handy with you since cell phones suck up soo much battery power and not to mention when playing a game (but a MOVIE)!!!, this thread cannot be commented on a quality basis release since its not an official VCD. I would save my money and buy something usful, but playing movies on the celly is pathetic.... And just WRONG! were expanding to make movies more clearer and more watchable, and seems were going backwards with a 4"x4" screen with a re-encoded movie of a TS which was shit to begin with to watch a movie,.... okie well hope they stop this cause its getting ridicolous


Posted by Azzido on 01-11-2004 10:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by FBi
My jesus murphy!

Are we gonna have to make a separate section for this horrifying piece of technology? The idea is there, and theres always people trying to make cool stuff but honestly, a movie on a phone? pretty lame man. Your going to need maybe 4 batteries handy with you since cell phones suck up soo much battery power and not to mention when playing a game (but a MOVIE)!!!, this thread cannot be commented on a quality basis release since its not an official VCD. I would save my money and buy something usful, but playing movies on the celly is pathetic.... And just WRONG! were expanding to make movies more clearer and more watchable, and seems were going backwards with a 4"x4" screen with a re-encoded movie of a TS which was shit to begin with to watch a movie,.... okie well hope they stop this cause its getting ridicolous




LOL - how wrong you are. I may not have a movie on my phone, but the eminem - without me video, it was so clear, and if i had the money, i would buy extra memory and comvert tv/movies for my viewing. Why dont you actually test the hardware before you make judgements. I hate people that do that. Anyway,technology is only getting better, if my p800 can play this sort of stuff, im only drooling about what the next hardware is gonna supprt.

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Posted by dumwaldo on 01-11-2004 10:19 PM:

movies in the palm of your hand is something that PDA owners have been doing for quite a while. don't knock it till you try it.

PPC owners have PocketMVP to play DivX reencodes

Palm owners have Kinoma Video Player to play reencoded material made with Kinoma Producer.

in addition to that sprint has had a service for a few month now called MobiTV that delivers 16 live television channels on J2ME java cell phones.

during this first quarter of 2004 Tmobile is supposed to be coming out with a with a phone that has a built in TV tuner that will be able to grap over the air stations.

smartphones like the MPx200 and the i600 make it possible to have a clamshell phone that plays reencoded material through windows media player.

this is the direction phones will be going this year. the ability to both watch and record full video is going to be the hot selling point this year. it might not fit your personal lifestyle but apparently there are enough people out there that would like this ability or it wouldnt be happening.

i for one know my 1 hour ride in each direction on the commuter train goes much faster watching a movie, and the 320x240 display of my PDA seems like a big screen TV when its less than 12" from my face.

with all that in favor of stuff said now i have to agree with the objections. this is not an original release and it belongs in the shadows of usenet and IRC like the PDA rips and reencodes that have been around for some time already.

peace out,
dumwaldo

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Posted by village_idiot on 01-11-2004 10:23 PM:

I guess if this continues we should start listing movies that are compressed to play on things like the Gameboy Advance. Seems silly to me, but might be of value to someone else. Maybe Hollywood should start to release full length previews for little tiny displays like this. Then you could see if the film was worth watching before you spend a small fortune at the theater.


Posted by Liife on 01-12-2004 12:13 AM:

2600: The Hacker Quarterly just had a great article in their latest (Winter 2003/4) ish on how to encode a dvdrip/ts/cam/tc (whatever) down to fit on a 256 MB SD card to view on your PPC with no loss in video quality. Check it out.

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Posted by Evomase on 01-12-2004 12:38 AM:

Question Re

Well i have got a Nokia 6100, and i was wondering if this movie coulf work on my mob!! not really seen the quality yet, but was just wondering incase if i get any movie to watch on my mob!!


Posted by Stonecoldfreak1 on 01-12-2004 12:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorch
Ah well. Still no reason to buy an NGage then

They don't make movies for Motorola phones, do they?




they work on n-gage with a MMC card... i got tv shows and underworld on my n-gage right now the program that is loaded on the n-gage will only read .3gp and .rm


Posted by M112_04 on 01-12-2004 01:26 AM:

I will make this short and simple..

This is a waste of fucking time...stop posting shit like this on vcdquality. This movie deserves a post of a dvdrip or some type of good screener. Its much more worthy than this garbage.

A waste of peoples time and interest.


Posted by Phlag on 01-12-2004 01:37 AM:

Interesting, but entirely unnecessary. What's next, GBA, GP32, PocketPC, Palm, etc., releases? I hope to Christ not. This better not start a trend.


Posted by gfavored on 01-12-2004 02:27 AM:

You can find one here to dl,

It's funny to watch on a PC but wonder how it looks on the phone ,this one's for the Nokia,

http://forum.sharereactor.com/viewt...b383a37f1bcd4c1


Posted by SKiTaLs on 01-12-2004 02:28 AM:

No no no no no! Packet Video 3gp stuff is CRAP. Nokias are NOT smartphones... if you want a phone with multimedia capability get a MS Smartphone, like the samsung i600, mott mpx200, orange spv e200, etc. Then run the Smartphone operating system (windows ce). My samsung i600 has a 200 mhz cpu. I have PocketMVP installed (pocket music and video player) which was originally called PocketDivX, and changed names once it started supporting mpeg, mp3, ogg, etc. There is also PocketTV which is freeware and is a great MPEG player. I prefer divx and use PocketMVP on my phone and pocket pcs.

Packet Video is CRAP quality. Absolutely CRAP. There is a Packet Video player for smartphone so I thought I would test it out and see what nokia users have. IT just completely sucks... its more like watching a slideshow then a video. I played it back on my computer too, and will confirm it sucked just as much there. The technology is a$$.

Check out #pocketmovies on efnet. Its not lame "groups" releasing movies but people like you and me that encode their own movies to watch on their Smartphones and Pocket PCs.

And to continue my pitch on Smartphones, it has Pocket Internet Explorer so you can surf regular websites (not just wap, mobile phone crap sites). You cn sign onto instant messenger (AIM, MSN, Yahoo, etc). Its windows, so it can multitask... i listen to mp3's while i surf the net, chat, email, and text message. Its even got the cpu power to run an NES emulator and play all my favorite NES games

I was at the theatre friday night and was there half an hour early so I busted out the phone and watched an episode of the Simpsons (DIVX!!!!!). IT definitely caused a lot of chatter in the rows behind me


Posted by 0qwarrior on 01-12-2004 04:20 AM:

Okay, I must admit that this is somewhat interesting, but honestly, who is going to sit and stare at their phone to watch a 3.5hr movie? Releases such as this are entirely unnecessary. Anyways, the RotK screener was shipped to academy members on Jan. 2nd (dvd or vhs is unknown), so we can expect a release sometime soon. OBUS said they had some 'surprises' for us, so you never know.


Posted by Azzido on 01-12-2004 07:38 AM:

Re: Re

quote:
Originally posted by Evomase
Well i have got a Nokia 6100, and i was wondering if this movie coulf work on my mob!! not really seen the quality yet, but was just wondering incase if i get any movie to watch on my mob!!


no - the 6100 doesnt have a media player, or anything! the screen is tiny, ow could you ever imagine putting a movie on that...it doesnt have expandable memory, can just about manage mms, how on earth did u even manage to ask that, honestly think b4 u post.

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Posted by Kurei on 01-12-2004 02:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SKiTaLs
......

I was at the theatre friday night and was there half an hour early so I busted out the phone and watched an episode of the Simpsons (DIVX!!!!!). IT definitely caused a lot of chatter in the rows behind me



seeing i also got a pocketpc and would like to watch stuff on it, i assume u reencoded ( seeing my simpsons episodes are ~200 mb)the simpsons episode, with what ? i'm not very into encoding so i wouldnt know, but i would apreciate if you told me

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Posted by PhilD on 01-12-2004 06:27 PM:

There are entire scenes dedicated to pocketpc reencodes. there are many irc channels an a few newsgroups... or you could reencode. And they are great... i most reencode dvdrips or screeners to divx and they look nothing short of stunning, plus pda = 16:9 on it's side (or mine does)

Can't imagine films on a phone thought... as the pda is pushing it for screen size!

I personally don't think this should be on here though. Either start a section for mobile movie encodes or get them off, as they are just reencodes after all. It's nothing new.


Posted by kenshinx on 01-12-2004 06:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SKiTaLs
No no no no no! Packet Video 3gp stuff is CRAP. Nokias are NOT smartphones... if you want a phone with multimedia capability get a MS Smartphone, like the samsung i600, mott mpx200, orange spv e200, etc. Then run the Smartphone operating system (windows ce). My samsung i600 has a 200 mhz cpu. I have PocketMVP installed (pocket music and video player) which was originally called PocketDivX, and changed names once it started supporting mpeg, mp3, ogg, etc. There is also PocketTV which is freeware and is a great MPEG player. I prefer divx and use PocketMVP on my phone and pocket pcs.

Packet Video is CRAP quality. Absolutely CRAP. There is a Packet Video player for smartphone so I thought I would test it out and see what nokia users have. IT just completely sucks... its more like watching a slideshow then a video. I played it back on my computer too, and will confirm it sucked just as much there. The technology is a$$.

Check out #pocketmovies on efnet. Its not lame "groups" releasing movies but people like you and me that encode their own movies to watch on their Smartphones and Pocket PCs.

And to continue my pitch on Smartphones, it has Pocket Internet Explorer so you can surf regular websites (not just wap, mobile phone crap sites). You cn sign onto instant messenger (AIM, MSN, Yahoo, etc). Its windows, so it can multitask... i listen to mp3's while i surf the net, chat, email, and text message. Its even got the cpu power to run an NES emulator and play all my favorite NES games

I was at the theatre friday night and was there half an hour early so I busted out the phone and watched an episode of the Simpsons (DIVX!!!!!). IT definitely caused a lot of chatter in the rows behind me




coming from a honda ricer (note you sig) i wont bother reading your post

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Posted by SKiTaLs on 01-12-2004 08:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by KenshinX
coming from a honda ricer (note you sig) i wont bother reading your post


Yes, being a honda enthusiast and driving a crx makes me a ricer

Those pocket pc encodes will work on a Smartphone, though it still isnt optimized (the larger resolution means it has to resive in software).

Encoding is easy... just use VirtualDUB and encode to divx with mp3 audio. Tweak the sttings to you achieve the results you desire (file size to quality ratio). Smartphone screen res is 176 x 220. Rotate in the encode! This way the software doesnt need to do it and slow everything down.


Posted by JKozzy on 01-13-2004 03:24 AM:

More of these should come about for those who can't do it themselves; but they should really learn how.
When compressing to a smaller screen, the quality wouldn't deteriorate, it'd stay the same, or get a bit better since it's not being stretched out. I'm really thinking of getting a phone with this feature for that alone. It'd come in handy during class


Posted by plonk420 on 01-13-2004 05:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Liife
...with no loss in video quality.


*coughs*

that would be no perceivable loss in video quality .. and to some people

this IS getting a bit interesting, tho. i think they should try VP6 .. it's pretty damn impressive


Posted by Alien Venom on 01-13-2004 02:32 PM:

Re: Re: ??

quote:
Originally posted by GermanGuy
yes, this movie got a smal file size, for example 20 oder 40mb ( I don't know exaktly, but unter 100 mb I think) and with Irda, Bluetooth oder a Datacable you can take it on a Mobilephone, for more nfo's look @ w³.packetvideo.com


I would hope that they don't get any interference when they transfer it. Transfering a 100MB over Irda or Bluetooth would take a significant amount of time to a Nokia phone, or anything for that matter.


Posted by brettloveday on 01-13-2004 06:33 PM:

Alrighty peeps,

heres the lowdown,

Nokia series 60 fones (n gage, 6600, 3650) have realplayer as standard (for RM files) and you can download PV Player which plays 3GP files.

Basically the quality depends on the source - First off cartoons are the most watchable - films are fine - not great though.

The best films to watch are comedy's ect without fast action sequences because the frame rate is just not good enough for fast moving scenes - Kill bill is unwatchable whilst i watched the dvd rip of Bruce almighty re-encoded to .RM and it was perfectly watchable. I have the .RM file of ROTK but i havent even tried to watch it. You must remember that the screen size is only 2 inch square at the most. Watched a dvd rip of "Predator" on the train last night and that too was great, other films i watched on my n gage are - SWAT, the italian Job and brother bear - all worth watching - i tried to watch the encode of 2 fast 2 furious but that was a waste of time.

They definately are not a waste of time but i agree that the shouldnt be posted on vcdq. It really depends on your opinion really - i spend 4 hours a day on the train so its great for me because i would get beaten up in no time if i had a portable dvd player but nobody bats an eyelid with my n gage.

I would reccomend it really


Posted by on 01-13-2004 08:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by brettloveday
Alrighty peeps,

heres the lowdown,

Nokia series 60 fones (n gage, 6600, 3650) have realplayer as standard (for RM files) and you can download PV Player which plays 3GP files.

Basically the quality depends on the source - First off cartoons are the most watchable - films are fine - not great though.

The best films to watch are comedy's ect without fast action sequences because the frame rate is just not good enough for fast moving scenes - Kill bill is unwatchable whilst i watched the dvd rip of Bruce almighty re-encoded to .RM and it was perfectly watchable. I have the .RM file of ROTK but i havent even tried to watch it. You must remember that the screen size is only 2 inch square at the most. Watched a dvd rip of "Predator" on the train last night and that too was great, other films i watched on my n gage are - SWAT, the italian Job and brother bear - all worth watching - i tried to watch the encode of 2 fast 2 furious but that was a waste of time.

They definately are not a waste of time but i agree that the shouldnt be posted on vcdq. It really depends on your opinion really - i spend 4 hours a day on the train so its great for me because i would get beaten up in no time if i had a portable dvd player but nobody bats an eyelid with my n gage.

I would reccomend it really




4 hours a day on a train and u spend it off watching movies off your phone? OH boy, id rather be picking up strange good looking women off the train and mingle with them rather then look at a 2x2 movie display.... pfft the media is overpowering our egos i tell ya!!


Posted by junkets on 01-14-2004 02:54 AM:

WTF

Why am I even seeing this on vcdquality? I don't mean to bitch, however, when I saw this my heart leapt. I thought:

SCREENER....it must be. Why would anyone else post anything else after logistic?

This kinda stuff is bad for the heart. Little nokiaboy could have at least used the best TS to re-encode this. Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.


Posted by Junkyardking on 01-14-2004 03:33 AM:

yep

quote:
Originally posted by FBi
4 hours a day on a train and u spend it off watching movies off your phone? OH boy, id rather be picking up strange good looking women off the train and mingle with them rather then look at a 2x2 movie display.... pfft the media is overpowering our egos i tell ya!!


I agree.......


Posted by knweedo on 01-15-2004 06:09 PM:

If you can't figure out how to use a simple encoding program and do this yourself, you shouldn't even be allowed to download movies. Smartphones, color phones, phones that play games, take pictures, and all that crap are really pointless. Lets see, get several devices that each serve their purpose very well, or pay more for one device that does everything, only much worse...


Posted by junkets on 01-15-2004 08:17 PM:

HEH

So why do I see that !#($@# on the donkey saying:

Can you see Gandalf now? Can you see Gandalf now?


Posted by thebmano1 on 01-18-2004 10:50 PM:

its in german


Posted by sYph0n on 01-23-2004 03:34 PM:

thebman01
you are very intelligent.
thank you for this excellent answer. we did not know that it's in german. you are very intelligent.
great!


Posted by BLUE-NEO on 01-26-2004 03:09 AM:

the point of this would be...?????????????
none..exactly this is stupid and a disgrace of a great movie.

0/0/?

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