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Posted by X69 on 08-28-2005 05:15 PM:


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Posted by djplayboy on 08-28-2005 05:15 PM:

no sample hummm.......


Posted by Surfsnake2 on 08-28-2005 05:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by djplayboy
no sample hummm.......


Um, yes there is...
8/8/6
Still a little to dark, but definatley worth grabbing if you havent seen it yet.

And if you read the big post at the top with all the rules you would realize your post is reatarded and no one cares that your to stupid to find it

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Posted by Zombie Jesus on 08-28-2005 05:20 PM:

based on sample not too bad. Sound is good and video seems a tad dark but not much.

8/9/7

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Posted by Redemption1980 on 08-28-2005 05:27 PM:

There is a sample with this release, or do u mean the jpeg sample, if so then thats not really a valid comment.

As for this release, not too sure, looks and sounds like a very good Cam to me at times as the pic is very blurry and doesnt have that grain TC of old use to have, and is quite dark in certain scenes, also the sound is very echoey, and distorted at high volumes.

as a TC

7/5/?


Posted by certified_mad on 08-28-2005 05:30 PM:

I have just watched the sample file, ya it is a bit dark but sound is very good, picture for the most part good a good job NBP.

8/9/7

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Posted by GRAVESTORM on 08-28-2005 05:49 PM:

scanned through some of the rars on all 3 cd's,and have to say the video is ok a tad blurry but very good never the less but as regards for the audio well sometimes it sounds direct then goes to cammish sound then other times audio sound bloody awful this to me seems the audio has been made up of different sources and blended together shocking really!!!!!

video - 8
audio -5
film -8(seen at pics was enjoyedable)

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Posted by Airhead on 08-28-2005 06:03 PM:

Just like bewitched , the picture is grainy and blurry , darker then usual and very below quality for a TELECiNE. As mentioned , sounds like a CAM for audio ...

6.5/5/2

::EDiT:: I edited as i dont want peepz to get off topic. When a real TC gets released ill just download from torrent why you are all stuck with the mislabled TS.

Picture - Russian TS from torrent.
Sound - same as the BaPH CAM heavily filtered just like ... Charlie.And.The.Chocolate.Factory.TS.SVCD was.

On a side note i wasnt bitching and yes i know it was free , hell i got this from torrent days ago. I was just stating by mislabling like TUN/NBP do (among other grps) it possibly could screw the future up for a nicer copy to be released.


Posted by scousethief on 08-28-2005 06:10 PM:

very good quality ts/tc whatever audio is a bit fucked now and again but overall cant beat it.

8/7/9

film is very good i enjoyed it alot

if this is a ts the russians deserve a 10 for vid cos these are the best ive seen in 5 years.


Posted by bluester on 08-28-2005 06:16 PM:

Video: 8
Audio: 7
Movie: 8

Some people (Airhead) sure like to bitch a lot for something that's FREE. If you don't like the releases, you can always go to the cinemas or buy them when they come on DVD. AH


Posted by Max Payne on 08-28-2005 06:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by scousethief

if this is a ts the russians deserve a 10 for vid cos these are the best ive seen in 5 years.



nice said

Video - 8.5
Audio - 8
Movie - 8

good release and a good movie, thanks 2 russians and NBP


Posted by Redemption1980 on 08-28-2005 07:05 PM:

Gotta disagree Airhead, though i do think this is possibly a TS, but not definetly, and maybe Bewitched too.
The Island was a definite TC, and the fact that all these releases had full credits also makes me doubtfull that they are Telesyncs, though if u have an empty cinema, it could be possible, but i dont see them going to the trouble.

The Mr and Mrs Smith TC looked great to me and was definetly a TC, also had full Credits, the only prob with that was the sound.

The Legacy DVD Screener was not a TC as far as i could see, it was far too high quality, i dont know any groups with the sort of cash to spend on a high quality machine to do that, also the sound was 5.1, since DTS2 hasnt been cracked so far, where did the soundtrack come from, every TS and TC since Hostage (I Think) has had Mono sound.

Sorry for going off topic guys, but had to say.


Posted by weedchemist on 08-28-2005 07:13 PM:

looks good to me so far... it is a bit dark, but after watching brothers grimm it looked pretty bright lol but i had always wondered about alot of ts's being passed as Tc's, i had been suspicious about alot of them when saosin switched from near prestine TS to openening weekend TCs that werent that much different, and then tun had that same source... but i want the better copy and this definatley needed one with all the cropping from the first... sound hasnt been the same in ages, so if i can hear it, ill live... still no excuse for mislabeling, but that doesnt mean that its not needed... and airhead wasnt bitching, its was airing out the truth... we just gotta know as dvdcamcorders and such get better this will become more and more common practice... ahh... anyway will edit when done watching, but ive seen this and went to theatres amazingly.... so... 7/6/9 i loved the darkness of the movie...


Posted by prometeus on 08-28-2005 07:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Airhead
When a real TC gets released ill just download from torrent why you are all stuck with the mislabled TS.

hell i got this from torrent days ago. I was just stating by mislabling like TUN/NBP do (among other grps) it possibly could screw the future up for a nicer copy to be released. [/B]


wow you are the master! Downloading from torrent is that still possible? LOL

Go on and whine somewhere else n00b.
ps. Your name fits you well.


Posted by giannisKM on 08-28-2005 07:39 PM:

FOR PPL WITH LOW BANDWITH
dont dl it. wait for Charlie.and.the.Chocolate.Factory.TC.XviD-ASTEROiDS
v.good image
sound v good too
and only 1,4 gb


Posted by graham23s on 08-28-2005 07:46 PM:

The XViD is actually 2 discs according to thier .nfo

8/8/?

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Posted by dwayne on 08-28-2005 07:48 PM:

as long as russia is a floating landmass we will have TC's;x..audio is from a cam just souped up...and its dark like every other TC on the planet.

(for the folks who dont like the audio get the xvid and convert it to dvd-r with CCE since these guys are saying the audio is better which i dont think it is but it might be i would check but being at work on a sunday behind a firewall makes me handicapped

7/6/10 loved it

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Posted by pjfan281 on 08-28-2005 07:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by giannisKM
FOR PPL WITH LOW BANDWITH
dont dl it. wait for Charlie.and.the.Chocolate.Factory.TC.XviD-ASTEROiDS
v.good image
sound v good too
and only 1,4 gb




better not have heads and mouths chopped off =(


Posted by manal on 08-28-2005 08:24 PM:

ive downloaded both samples. this one and astroids. astriods strike again. they ar ehte best xvid release group ever

astroids has a great none flicker picture and good sound. ill be grabing it instead


Posted by TwistedSoul on 08-28-2005 08:26 PM:

i also agree wait for the TC.ASTEROIDS if u can much better quality. and sound is much more bassy. watched in full but skimmed through the NBP rel both nice but wait for ASTEROIDS


Posted by chef1 on 08-28-2005 08:39 PM:

POT whinging feckers "hydro"
who cares well done NBP


Posted by danmed on 08-28-2005 10:37 PM:

Audio

Not sure if it was me but i;ve just watched the Asteroids XVID and its got some MIRC style sounds as if its picking up the sound from the pc that wasw beign used to encode it.. only happens a couple of times and scared the hell out of me the first time!


Posted by Calicuzn on 08-28-2005 11:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by manal
ive downloaded both samples. this one and astroids. astriods strike again. they ar ehte best xvid release group ever

astroids has a great none flicker picture and good sound. ill be grabing it instead

ditto


Posted by mattmatt02 on 08-28-2005 11:14 PM:

very nice release, just what i was waiting for and MUCH better than the cam which brings new meaning to the word 'overcropped' lol!

but this:

8.5/6/9

asteriods is better and a 2cd xvid so HQ


Posted by hutt on 08-28-2005 11:26 PM:

very nice

video 8
audio 8
movie 1 (this load of shit ranks up there with caddyshack 2 and anything with pauly shore.)


Posted by AddNtoX on 08-28-2005 11:55 PM:

mislabelled re-encode of a russian TS with audio used from some other rls..

as a TC 5/5/?


Posted by The CandyMan on 08-29-2005 12:44 AM:

From the sample, video is decent, about on par with TC of late, but the sound is off. Maybe better than cam, but not much.

V-8
A-5
M-?

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Posted by qwertyu2 on 08-29-2005 02:24 AM:

Nice release!

8/8

Look 4 the ASTEROiDS copy


Posted by protekt0r on 08-29-2005 04:22 AM:

Picture: 8 (it's a little fuzzy, but the colors are excellent!)
Audio: 7 (it's a little low... gotta crank up the volume on this one)
Movie: 8 (almost as good as the original)

Another good release from NBP. Thx guys.

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Posted by whotookmyusername on 08-29-2005 05:08 AM:

i heard windows sounds around 45 mins must be the acid

video 7.5
sound 6
movie sucks


Posted by manal on 08-29-2005 07:06 AM:

id give it straight 7's

still say astroids is alittle better.

is it just me or does everyitime nbp releases somethign astroids 2 sec latter release somethign that looks like the same source but alittle better?


Posted by fractious on 08-29-2005 09:25 AM:

8.5/7/8

if the asteriods release is so great then why are they all whining on in the asteriods thread for this release about crappy chopped up sound and windows nioses through the film plus ??? to me they both seem pretty damn good


Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 08-29-2005 10:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by manal
id give it straight 7's

still say astroids is alittle better.

is it just me or does everyitime nbp releases somethign astroids 2 sec latter release somethign that looks like the same source but alittle better?




bahahahahahahhahahaha

8/7/5 (irc sounds. its all the fashion)

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Posted by geoffbob30 on 08-29-2005 03:14 PM:

after watching the film not sure if its a tc but perfectly watchable anyway audio bit funny in places and seems like 2 different sources film not too bad


rating as a tc
v/7
a/6
m/7


Posted by joebb3 on 08-29-2005 04:58 PM:

Of course its free! Thats the point isn't it? If you had to pay $20 for the damn thing, we'd all wait for the DVD.

The point of this forum is to critique the release against the standards that they are labeled as... Its NOT bitching. Sometimes the wording could be better, but overall its the persons opinion as to said quality.

Now can we dispense with the flames and get back to the reviews?

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Posted by AceOvArts on 08-29-2005 06:27 PM:

definately NOT a TC but good nonetheless.
Picture not as sharp as a TC should be and a bit dark (while cleaning the image up they could have added a brightness filter to lighten it up. But just turn brightness up a bit on your TV. Oh on a side note, the AR is off slightly on this and the asteroids release (there is a "proper" doing the rounds which I watched that has fixed AR)
Now the audio....this is the bad bit, sometimes clean but with a hiss or something coming in and out muffling out the true audio (god knows why) Also theres a few dings that you get in windows..heheh (get a grip) and as suggested before probably made up of a few different sources as sounds different in pieces.
But overall very watchable.

I also enjoyed the movie, I like Depp and the story is as you might expect with a few twists from the original.
So
picture: 6.5
audio: 5
movie: 7


Posted by Neversoft on 08-30-2005 10:59 AM:

If NBP was a gaping anus, I'd wear them like a hat! This copy isn't perfect, but it's very watchable.

V - 7
A - 6
M - ? (No Gene Wilder? It's gonna be shit )



::EDIT:: I LOVED it. Really, I dunno why everybody hates it so much. It's certainly a different "take" on the book than the old movie but it's certainly a good realisation of it. Great movie for kids too!


Posted by garvey100 on 08-30-2005 01:24 PM:

Yeah this isn't too bad. Picture quality is a helluva lot better than prevoius releases. As someone said previously, the sound is kinda weird and certainly not normal tc standard.....however, the full titles are there for the video and that is unusual in the extreme for ts films. There is a lot less flicker than ts films as well.
Apart from the odd bleep and the chop to cam sound at the end, the audio for me is fine and you can make everything out.

As TC - V7 A6.5 F8
AS TS - V9 A7 F8


Posted by b_3 on 08-30-2005 05:48 PM:

based on sample

video: 7 - a little blury and dark but still watchable
audio: 9 - no problems, clear, stereo audio
movie: the song in the sample has got to be one of the worst things I have ever heard, I couldnt wait for it to end. Whole movie looks shit.


Posted by frak on 08-31-2005 01:36 PM:

who gives a rats ass about the fvcking sample (re: reviews on page 2 rating it).

the audio is all over the place on this one. windows chimes, nasty distortion during some of the oopma loompa scenes..etc.

video looks nice, but TC? nyet.


Posted by Freepost on 09-01-2005 12:14 AM:

Picture was a little dark, but generally acceptable.

Sound was ok, but be warned there are a couple of IRC sounds and a blast of music to contend with. There are also a couple of parts where the occasional word has been silenced out - The last few minutes change to a cam feed sound + I struggled to hear the lyrics over the loud music.

If you enjoyed the original, you won't enjoy this. In my opinion it was diabolical.

8/6/3

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Posted by nykid on 09-03-2005 05:50 PM:

I agree get the asteroids. its MUCH better even the sound rocks.

I give this release 7/7/7


Posted by chardos on 09-03-2005 07:39 PM:

The video is pretty good but the sound is hollow. As far as the movie goes, it's horrible. I was a big fan of the original and this is a typical POS remake!

7/5/2


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