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Posted by Jonesss on 11-15-2004 01:52 PM:

Birth *SVCD* - TELESYNC - SG18

from the sample
it's good. Not as bright as FRA's reals. It's not in the smale leag as Videocd or CTP but's ok...
8/8/*


Posted by diekund on 11-15-2004 02:11 PM:

why is this svcd? theres clearly no need for it. i think its because FRA beat them to the vcd.
anyway the colours aint good, its blurry and just not that nice. in the sample it looks ok when they in the car but after that it just looks shit
audio is fine

6.5/8/?


Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 11-15-2004 02:32 PM:

STOLEN VIDEO & AUDIO SOURCE

They`ve taken VideoCD`s video and FRA`s audio and muxed them together, which can be confirmed by looking at the start of the film where as in the videocd source, the right hand half of the screen is covered by a jacket.

Very sad

stolen/stolen/7

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Posted by garvey100 on 11-15-2004 02:53 PM:

The source might be stolen but what SG18 seem to be doing well at the moment is fixing other groups fuck ups, Saw for example.
If indeed they have taken VideoCd's video and FRA's audio and come up with a better version than what's out there, then well done as far as I am concerned. Shows good initiative.

Sample looks good to me, but I am slightly concerned about diekund's comments about the full movie quality


Posted by PORKiE on 11-15-2004 02:55 PM:

Stolen VideoCD source.. Hmm, I see no VideoCD release of it and as for multiplexing the FRA sound, well I'll have to look, but if thats the case maybe sync issues too. All in all, looks ok for me and the best release so far..

So Ill say, keep up the good work


Posted by Neversoft on 11-15-2004 03:04 PM:

IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ

1 NO REQUESTING

2 DO NOT DISCUSS SOURCES FOR MOVIES

3 NO FLAMING

4 NO "SPOILERS"

5 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE, NOT WHAT OTHER GROUPS MAY OR MAY NOT RELEASE

6 ONLY COMMENT IF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS RELEASE OR A SAMPLE OF IT


*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE ABOVE RULES WILL BE BANNED ***


Posted by ou812 on 11-15-2004 03:05 PM:

You gotta be kidding me, in the corner on the left ya see for 1 second is a jacket or whatever? And it's stolen? I dunno about that, I seen the CAM and the beginning moves all around for several minutes.

Overall not bad... definatly a keeper.


Posted by TrV on 11-15-2004 03:08 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SeeDee_MKII
[B]STOLEN VIDEO & AUDIO SOURCE

They`ve taken VideoCD`s video and FRA`s audio and muxed them together, which can be confirmed by looking at the start of the film where as in the videocd source, the right hand half of the screen is covered by a jacket.

Get a clue you fucking Moron!, go bitch somewhere else where ppl wanna read your crap that makes no sense whatsoever.

7/9/7


Posted by Rep- on 11-15-2004 03:10 PM:

good quality for a non-videocd/ctp svcd ts. definitely watchable 8/8/x


Posted by rivaldo on 11-15-2004 03:10 PM:

i agree with the previous 2 posters....first of all we are not sure if the picture is stolen....in every cam movie at the first seconds the picture is shaky jackets come in the picture etc.....and then where did you see the videocd release??????is it internal or what???


Posted by nakid on 11-15-2004 03:12 PM:

kinda fuzzy and dark ...


v 6.1
a 8
m ??


Posted by Roger on 11-15-2004 03:26 PM:

isn't kinda sad, 2 times now, SG18 take another release from another group, reencode it or convert it ntsc then take audio from another group, sync it to it, and release it, get the rewards
wow
SG18 did it for

VideoCD
FRA
Centropy

propered VideoCD & Centropy with their own source ...

where the scene is going ... i guess all the morons that saying SG18 is right only want the group to stop preing.

Scene being too public now, and idiots actualy accessing to it to easyly, one day or another the scene will split up, having a very private site including group like VideoCD and Centropy and others good name, then the other side, where all little fuckers will be.

I hope to see that at any point.


Posted by garvey100 on 11-15-2004 03:52 PM:

I can see your point Roger but I just don't agree that's all. Perhaps the fact that sg18 have produced a better version here and also sorted the Saw fiasco before videocd brought out their final 60 secs suggests that they want people to watch the best version possible out there. Nothing to do with getting credit when we already know they have used a mix and match of sources etc. I just want to see the best possible and as quick as possible really, as I would say most people do.

Yeah, I suppose it's sneaky and sly what they do but it could have some good effect eventually in that the groups who are renowned as top quality will have to really check their encodes etc before releasing

Just outta interest, has this been nuked for stolen anywhere yet? Hasn't on my sites. Not sure about nforce as it was down a while ago.


Posted by Panthro on 11-15-2004 04:03 PM:

You know the way things go on here makes you not want to even post or rate the quality of the movies..So Imma say this and if I get banned so be it..If you guys are so fucking smart why are you not doing your own shyt. bunch of you grown azz men crying like the world owes you something..and you got all the answers..Take what is given to you and be thankful..NeverSoft Post the rules of the Forum..if you don't like them then go to another forum..or start your own..


Posted by garvey100 on 11-15-2004 04:14 PM:

Point taken Panthro. I did comment on the sample earlier on. I also felt that it was warranted discussing this to some extent though as I feel certain groups come in for unwarranted flak by the so called l33t for fixing stuff and making our lives easier.

As for this based on sample 7/7?


Posted by Roger on 11-15-2004 05:09 PM:

fixing problem is fine, i agree to that, but saying they use their own source when its false ? you have to admit my point, VideoCD / Centropy have camers wich SG18 don't have, VideoCD / Centropy spend time and money, wich SG18 only spend little time to fix, and who get the rewards at the end ?

If SG18 would say in their nfo,

We toke VideoCD release because it was better video also we toke FRA audio because it was better audio.

First it would be nuked for stolen, but i would at least respect them more ...


Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 11-15-2004 05:51 PM:

Just to reply to the posts regarding my thread. To the ppl saying "if they fixed something then its fine", is well and good if you are a non scener (which TRV u obviously are), but when a grp takes the risk of going out and camming it and rlsing it (which videocd do), just for another grp to take a different audio source mux it and rls it like its their own work, thats going to cause problems.
But I guess that dont mean anything to the 99% of idiots on here.

Rogers, Panthro`s and garveys points are well put.

wont post anymore on the subject

stolen\stolen\7

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Posted by Kick on 11-15-2004 06:23 PM:

k yeah def stolen dont really give a crap who cares why they like to use other sources if the release is half decent and watchable aint that what ppl want??? someone tell me otherwise anyway this film is crap went to cinema walked out after 35 mins feed of rubbish cudnt be bothered to give it the time either (also woman hated it to and her friends)!!!

stolen/stolen/-1


Posted by se7ensoftware on 11-15-2004 06:32 PM:

VideoCD Has In Fact Released This...

Just because it is not on VCDQ does not mean that the release is not real. VideoCD did do a CAM of this a while ago. And after comparing the video of this release with the video of the VideoCD release I would say that they are in fact the same. Because yesterday when the FRA pre'd I was going to rip the DTS audio and sync it to the VideoCD release myself just because I didn't want to wait for a better TS. Anyway

stolen/stolen/8

movie rocked


Posted by ASSHOLE :(-- on 11-15-2004 07:55 PM:

COOL
7/8/8


Posted by KillX3 on 11-15-2004 10:57 PM:

nice release 8/8/?

video and sound is nice. overall very nice release

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Posted by firefighter on 11-15-2004 11:53 PM:

Was pretty easy to tell this was stolen.

CD1 rar 2 of VideoCD CAM -
Cammer puts thumb over CAM then while a guy is running down the road and three dogs go into a gate , the Cammer drops the CAM.

CD1 rar 3 of SG18 (cause of gay intro) -
exact same scene , wow the cam drops !

Gay Gay & Gay. People diss grps like POT for not great quality but at least they got their own sources. Even hated FTF didnt steal other groups work.

Stolen/Stolen/?

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Posted by bcool2k on 11-15-2004 11:57 PM:

NUKED: stolen.video.source.from.VideoCD.CAM


for those of u keeping count thats 2 releases by SG 18 both with stolen videocd source files..NOT good for business..i'm wait for a REAL PROPER NOW!!


Posted by Sco0t on 11-16-2004 12:02 AM:

It's nuked for stolen Video from VideoCD.


Posted by JoshNya on 11-16-2004 12:37 AM:

Man how many SWE or NOR sub groups use R1 retail DVDRs downloaded from the scene? How many SVCD and XviD do too? Those aren't nuked for stolen releases?

I say, once it's out, it's public property.

Pirate from a pirate?... why wait for another copy? cause your pride is hurt? LoL

sigh...

Ahh well movie looks retarded, I'll wait for the DVD, but you guys crack me up with this 'Honor Among Thieves' crap.


Posted by crackerjax on 11-16-2004 12:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bcool2k
NUKED: stolen.video.source.from.VideoCD.CAM


for those of u keeping count thats 2 releases by SG 18 both with stolen videocd source files..NOT good for business..i'm wait for a REAL PROPER NOW!!



you might actually be waiting for quite a while ... the video is good enough, regardless of if its stolen or not ... the audio makes the release more than watchable, the next thing might be an internal, and the movie isn't good enough to warrent an internal in my opinion. I'm not saying it's ok to steal other groups stuff, if it was a street silver it would be different ... but it's not, it someone's hard work and time. Shame on you SG-18, let's try harder next time

/end rant

And for those of you that really care ... I'd say about half on this forum do actually have something directly to do with the "scene" ... so piss off.


Posted by HcC on 11-16-2004 02:10 AM:

#1) It's stolen. Unless they just wanted to immitate the first release by the good group because they're trying to learn how to be a group without having ANYTHING. Hasn't anyone learned from this kind of shit ? recodes and muxing do NOT constitute a release and should be nuked asap. These guys have not proven they have their own source yet, in fact they've proven quite the opposite.

#2) Why the fuck are people posting this shit ? I think i'll have to be staff again just to filter out the crap. Seriously, you wanna get rid of lame posts, REMOVE LAME GROUPS. It's a waste of space to have these fuckers name on the site. That space could go towards another 30 pop up ads to fund vcdqs $3,000 an hour heroin addiction, and by vcdq I mean pho, and by heroin addiction I mean horse tranquilizers.

#3) STOP COMPARING SHIT TO OTHER GROUPS. (blah blah blah centropy did better blah blah blah) go fucking cam for centropy then or suck their cocks. Centropy have fucked up more than you obviously know. So next time you wanna compare to a centropy cam stop, and remember the jay leno filter they used.

#4) leigh where the fuck did you go ? you were cute.




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Posted by Anno on 11-16-2004 04:55 AM:

quote:
JoshNya: Man how many SWE or NOR sub groups use R1 retail DVDRs downloaded from the scene? How many SVCD and XviD do too? Those aren't nuked for stolen releases?
I say, once it's out, it's public property.

Pirate from a pirate?... why wait for another copy? cause your pride is hurt? LoL

sigh...

Ahh well movie looks retarded, I'll wait for the DVD, but you guys crack me up with this 'Honor Among Thieves' crap.


Agreed (except the movie aint that bad)


quote:
quote:
crackerjax: I'm not saying it's ok to steal other groups stuff, if it was a street silver it would be different ... but it's not, it someone's hard work and time.


How do you think all the people involved in making these movies feel then??

Heres the important part to remember...
VideoCD and FRA and others still get the respect they deserve when some1 "steels" the source infact they get more respect when it happens tbh. Every1 with a keen interest in the scene are aware when these things happen heep loads of abuse on the said parties so it's not like they get off scot free and we all get to watch a better release "if we choose to" As for the people that get these movies that arn't aware of the whole stolen release thing (i.e p2p users) do you think they care what group (or infact if they know what a release group is) their release is from? i doubt it it very much for the majority of those people anyway.

As for this release 7.5/8/7 even if it is stolen.
Thank you VideoCD and thank you FRA for making this release possible.


Posted by SPS on 11-16-2004 09:21 AM:

god damn...

everyone speaking about "ohh.. VideoCD are taking so hugh risks making their own telesyncs..."

How the hell do u know that? How do u know VideoCD are making their own video captures? Just because they release good quality?

as far as I am concern their Video are made in france or some french speaking state, with an english dts sountrack disc synced on.

Havnt u noticed that the exact same quality has been released by maven and centropy?

VideoCD got a SUPPLIER (whos been supplying maven and centropy aswell) who does its own telesyncs....
And other groups (who release silver) ALSO got a SUPPLIER who make its own telesyncs, or cams (only differens is that that guy are a chinese and dont know much about quality)...

Just telling the facts... (sorry for my bad english)

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Posted by FredPenner on 11-16-2004 11:36 AM:

"getting the rewards"

What rewards are those?

Are you PAYING for these releases?

Perhaps you are talking about the FBI wanting them?

Sounds like a great reward. Where do I sign up?

I would say KUDOS to SG18 for muxing two poor releases into one GOOD one if they admitted it in their NFO file.

It's still a better download than EITHER of the releases it's muxed from.

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Posted by Dodgy Del on 11-16-2004 02:03 PM:

Thumbs down

Think ill give this a miss as i don't like thiefs. lol

Another VOID movie.


quote:
Originally posted by Sco0t
It's nuked for stolen Video from VideoCD.

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Posted by joey_75051 on 11-16-2004 02:13 PM:

POST WAS ERASED


Posted by chocco on 11-16-2004 02:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by garvey100
I can see your point Roger but I just don't agree that's all. Perhaps the fact that sg18 have produced a better version here and also sorted the Saw fiasco before videocd brought out their final 60 secs suggests that they want people to watch the best version possible out there. Nothing to do with getting credit when we already know they have used a mix and match of sources etc. I just want to see the best possible and as quick as possible really, as I would say most people do.

Yeah, I suppose it's sneaky and sly what they do but it could have some good effect eventually in that the groups who are renowned as top quality will have to really check their encodes etc before releasing

Just outta interest, has this been nuked for stolen anywhere yet? Hasn't on my sites. Not sure about nforce as it was down a while ago.



If a group doesn't take the risks why should they get the rewards? Taking someone else's release and then helping yourself to it even if it's fuct up is wrong.. If the group fucks up they should have the opportunity to fix it, not have someone else take their source and release it as their own...


Posted by Redemption198 on 11-16-2004 07:48 PM:

I agree with SPS on this, VideoCD dont take any risks at all, neither did Maven, as its obvious they both have the same supplier and neither actually do the camming themselves.

Didn't you notice how quiet it went for VideoCD when Maven was around, and when was the last Maven TS since VideoCD started again.

I dont care who the supplier is or the source, as all TS's are stolen from cinemas anyway, and VideoCD have no Legal or moral rights over the video.

If you want the best release of this film at the moment, then this is it, end of story.

7/9/7


Posted by cypha79 on 11-16-2004 09:44 PM:

man you people have alot of nerve talking crap about being "stealing" WTF are you doing?



7/7/8



Redemption1980 said it best.


Also what kind of rewards does SG18 get? Brand new dvd player, new PC, some free DVD's? Oh wait NOTHING.


Posted by ASSHOLE :(-- on 11-17-2004 12:23 AM:

i agree this is stolen and the best copy out there. 7/8/8

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Posted by Roger on 11-17-2004 04:47 AM:

Redemption1980


I just wish VideoCD don't read what you just said, because if i were the guy who make those cap, you can be sure i wouldn't want to supply for ass holes like you are.

Bitch.


Posted by cypha79 on 11-17-2004 08:01 AM:

I do believe VideoCD takes some risks but the rest of redemptions post was true.


Posted by Redemption198 on 11-17-2004 08:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Roger
Redemption1980


I just wish VideoCD don't read what you just said, because if i were the guy who make those cap, you can be sure i wouldn't want to supply for ass holes like you are.

Bitch.



Uhhh, now you've hurt my feelings.


Posted by SPS on 11-18-2004 12:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Roger
Redemption1980


I just wish VideoCD don't read what you just said, because if i were the guy who make those cap, you can be sure i wouldn't want to supply for ass holes like you are.

Bitch.



well u are not that guy, and nor will "that guy" supply Redemption in vcdq forum with his cammings...

anyway...

What in his post was wrong?

VideoCD got a supplier just like any other TS group...
Maybe the supplier is a true 'member' of VideoCD, but I doubt that... cause he has sold/given/shared his cammings with other groups (maven, ctp)... Therefor I cant really lick VideoCDs ass saying "Ohh, you make the best TS's!" because all they have done.. is at the time, won the supplier from maven and ctp.

and btw... Nice to see CTP back with a new supplier who only does it for one group...

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Posted by Dirty Shoez on 11-18-2004 12:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Roger
Redemption1980


I just wish VideoCD don't read what you just said, because if i were the guy who make those cap, you can be sure i wouldn't want to supply for ass holes like you are.

Bitch.



You sound like a fucking faggy foreigner bitch. What are you, some bitch-ass 15 year old Dutch kid? Get the fuck out of here.

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Posted by HcC on 11-21-2004 01:53 AM:

SPS and the rest of you. I think it's quite funny how you assume what groups get what supply because you ? read nfos ? watch a few releases ? The scene is a lot more complicated than you think and its not just some chinese guy who wants to make some shitty cams for some groups and some french guy who wants to cam for others.

Lesson #1 ) Unless you are in the group... don't assume you know who is supplying or doing what for a group.

Lession #2) Don't post your assumptions on vcdqualitys PUBLIC forums. You see people who do know what they're doing read this and say "hey look at that cocksucker who thinks he knows what hes talking about". Just because you can make a comment that vcdq kiddies see and think makes sense, doesn't mean you should make it because you can piss some people off.


P.S. someone fucking mail me the vcdq password I lost it and i'm too lazy to search. PHO ARE YOU DEAD ? robbie ?!

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Posted by SPS on 11-25-2004 11:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by HcC
SPS and the rest of you. I think it's quite funny how you assume what groups get what supply because you ? read nfos ? watch a few releases ? The scene is a lot more complicated than you think and its not just some chinese guy who wants to make some shitty cams for some groups and some french guy who wants to cam for others.

Lesson #1 ) Unless you are in the group... don't assume you know who is supplying or doing what for a group.

Lession #2) Don't post your assumptions on vcdqualitys PUBLIC forums. You see people who do know what they're doing read this and say "hey look at that cocksucker who thinks he knows what hes talking about". Just because you can make a comment that vcdq kiddies see and think makes sense, doesn't mean you should make it because you can piss some people off.


P.S. someone fucking mail me the vcdq password I lost it and i'm too lazy to search. PHO ARE YOU DEAD ? robbie ?!




why are u here then? why do we have a forum if we shouldnt post our thougts?

You say I dont know what Im talking about, then why be upset? If I dont know what Im talking about, then "the important group members" shouldnt be worried about my posts... Im not posting VideoCD's members IRL names right?.... besides, I dont think they all read vcdq forum I dont think they care... So just let us "kiddies" speak free will ya?

and btw... I dont care about your lessons... Keep them for yourself....

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Posted by straftat on 11-29-2004 05:08 AM:

poor CAM , video is not very good

the light / focus constantly phases in and out


5/6/6


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