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Posted by X69 on 11-19-2006 11:05 PM:


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Posted by PlasmaWhore on 11-19-2006 11:06 PM:

from sample:

Picture is okay, but sound is really shitty. I guess it would be watchable, but since I have already seen it in the theater I will wait for a better copy for my 2nd viewing.

7/4/10


Posted by pedantics on 11-19-2006 11:08 PM:

sounds like a cam to me!

pretty soft and flickery, and seemingly bad ar (as in, stretched). if you need to crop don't try and hide it.

best release so far though...

6.5/6.5/?


Posted by PS3King on 11-19-2006 11:21 PM:

Have the film and looks good to me although the sound does get annoying! Therefore my rating will be:

8 For Picture
4 For Sound
? For Movie


Posted by dead1 on 11-19-2006 11:26 PM:

definitely best release out.. as mentioned ^ a little flicker, audio is ok.. not too hollow. Looks ok on my 42" with a little adjusting / played with VLC media player

video: 7
audio: erm 7
movie: hilarious (in my country they would go crazy for these two... hmmm not so much)

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Posted by CATBOX on 11-19-2006 11:34 PM:

This has already been nuked for CAM audio. Why can't release groups just be truthful? Oh well.


Posted by DP111 on 11-19-2006 11:48 PM:

Can't see that it is CAM audio as you cannot hear any audience laughter. IMO its direct just not the best.

v 6
a 6


Posted by Mailman on 11-19-2006 11:49 PM:

Video is not bad, very watchable. This sounds so much like a good flitered cam in audio. Distorted when trying to hide it, for a cam, it would've rocked.

V-7
A-6
M-6


Posted by imspecial on 11-20-2006 12:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by CATBOX
This has already been nuked for CAM audio. Why can't release groups just be truthful? Oh well.


it was unnuked. the audio is direct

7 for video
7 for audio (switch it from stereo to mono if you are having trouble)
10+ for movie. Greatest movie of the year


Posted by Mx0plx on 11-20-2006 12:24 AM:

*NUKED*

cam.audio_cbr.audio

shitty anyway


Posted by ZXCV on 11-20-2006 12:27 AM:

Nothing special not a very good copy. 6/6/?

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Posted by norrie on 11-20-2006 12:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by CATBOX
This has already been nuked for CAM audio. Why can't release groups just be truthful? Oh well.


It was also un-nuked

7/5/99999


Posted by dannyb0yuk on 11-20-2006 12:51 AM:

I just watched the sample and it seems pretty decent to me, certainly watchable. The sound is okay, obviously it's not 5.1 or anything, but it's not got much hiss and there's certainly no audience laughter to be heard! The only copy worth downloading so far in my opinion!

Screenshots here: (They were snapped when the window was full screen at 1280x1024, but the shots didn't come out full size- thus will look a bit more grainy than this)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/...p2743160ll9.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/...p2743193fw6.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/18...p2743221wa4.jpg


Posted by derbo27 on 11-20-2006 01:09 AM:

borat screenhttp://www.hypoh.com/movies/ts-and-tc/borattsxvid-dinaty shots

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Posted by rcr0412 on 11-20-2006 01:20 AM:

is there american subs in this ?


Posted by the-hunk on 11-20-2006 01:53 AM:

Is it just me, or are the parts that should be subtitled in english actualy subbed in spanish?
Apart from those scenes, which make viewing difficult, the movie is watchable, and an improvement from the camera effort.
V:7
A:5 cuz of the spanish subs
M:8 so far so good


Posted by KrackZaa on 11-20-2006 02:35 AM:

it niiiiiice

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and I scream at the sky
It's been so hard
but I can't let it die
Turn my head up,
looking at the stars
So many years,
I still wonder where you are?
Dust myself up
and I scream at the sky
Every day I ask myself why?
So much pain pouring
from inside
Above me I feel the spirit fly


Posted by Enzomatrx on 11-20-2006 02:43 AM:

good video but definitely muffled cam audio. Too bad.

You can mute out all the audience laughter you want, it still is cam audio.

V: 7
A: 4
M: 8


Posted by Frosty110 on 11-20-2006 03:24 AM:

the subs are in another fucking language. thanks for not mentioning it in the nfo and not including any subs in the sample


Posted by danimal39 on 11-20-2006 04:37 AM:

7/5/8 slight flicker. audio could be better ,but is watchable


Posted by david3663 on 11-20-2006 04:49 AM:

this isnt cam audio isnt the best direct but isnt cam you people dont know what your talkin about

v-8/a-5/m-?(Havent Finished Watching yet)


Posted by dug123 on 11-20-2006 05:15 AM:

The audio is GREAT direct audio when you fix it!

I've seen this problem before, you just need to open the audio file with audacity or some other program and invert one of the channels. then it sounds nice and clear with the bass and stuff intact.
but of course you have to also use a program like virtual dub to put the fixed audio back into the .avi file.

V: 8
A: 10 (when fixed)


Posted by nickrolando on 11-20-2006 05:33 AM:

how do you do that?


Posted by Iammyself on 11-20-2006 06:48 AM:

I personally think this is direct audio, besides at around 2:26 you hear something like a cough...

but it could be line noise. which is heard alot the 1st 3 minutes, and then randomly throughout...

To think anyone would filter cam audio and then take the time to lower the volume and up it at random parts seems crazy... It sounds more like a bad fm signal or kinda like when a vhs tape gets a bit stretched and it causes spikes, or even a protected dvd running through a vhs that has macrovision protection... ill bet on FM wasnt tuned in right...

Seems like something was cut, 1ce at the 3-5 min mark and maybe something around 10-15 towards the end

the movie only had spanish subs (some added after the recording) but the pic is great, i didnt find the movie that great, but some parts are halarious, it was short, its could be better, if the english subs significantly add to the experience...

7.5/5/7


Posted by P2PAlaska on 11-20-2006 08:24 AM:

CAM audio, Direct Audio whatever. Another release of this should not have been done till the English forced Subs we're sorted.


Just mho, tell me to quack off.lol, but this release is for naught without ENG forced subs.

Rate this?? The same bloody Spanish source as the last .



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Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 11-20-2006 10:10 AM:

This would be half watchable if someone could make some englidh subs instead of the hardcoded spanish ones. Any offers to make some ?

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Posted by HBx2000 on 11-20-2006 05:44 PM:

V=6.0, -> for this docu-style movie it's good enough
A=3.5, sound horrible -> can't almost make something out of it.
M=?, hoping for a copy with better audio, so I can laugh.

Bottomline: I thinks it's a CAM with the audience sound filtered out.

<<< This should be nuked for incomplete, it skips a part in the beginning>>


Posted by yukichigai on 11-20-2006 07:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nickrolando
how do you do that?
You have to separate the left/right channels in Audacity, then select one of the channels, go to Effects->Invert. However, there's not a lot of point to this; inevitably when you have this sort of audio inversion it means that both channels are the same mono track, only one is inverted. (I think this is some sort of movie theater anti-piracy effort; works out great, huh? :P) You'll get a same-sounding result by using a custom channel mapping to play back the movie in, say, Media Player Classic. Just go to Options, select "Audio Switchers" on the left, then click "enable custom channel mapping. Pick check the Front Left and Front Right boxes under Channel 1 and uncheck the same boxes under Channel 2. Just remember to disable "custom channel mapping" after you're done with the movie.


Posted by FoGgEdOuT on 11-20-2006 09:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SeeDee_MKII
This would be half watchable if someone could make some englidh subs instead of the hardcoded spanish ones. Any offers to make some ?
Do you mean like subs that go over the spanish subs, or subs to translate the spanish subs and are placed at the bottom of the screen?


Posted by nickrolando on 11-20-2006 10:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yukichigai
You have to separate the left/right channels in Audacity, then select one of the channels, go to Effects->Invert. However, there's not a lot of point to this; inevitably when you have this sort of audio inversion it means that both channels are the same mono track, only one is inverted. (I think this is some sort of movie theater anti-piracy effort; works out great, huh? :P) You'll get a same-sounding result by using a custom channel mapping to play back the movie in, say, Media Player Classic. Just go to Options, select "Audio Switchers" on the left, then click "enable custom channel mapping. Pick check the Front Left and Front Right boxes under Channel 1 and uncheck the same boxes under Channel 2. Just remember to disable "custom channel mapping" after you're done with the movie.


But you stated you will get the same-sounding result??

Also if a video has flicker in it i heard you could fix that too

how would you do that?


Posted by dug123 on 11-20-2006 11:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nickrolando
how do you do that?

heres what i do, its not the best programs but it works and sounds the way it should.

open the file in virtual dub
click file>> "save wav...
open the .wav file in audacity
in audacity, on the very left of the blue wave thing there will be a down arrow
click that and click split stereo track
then the two channels are divided. with the light gray thing on the very left.
for the right channel, click at the beginning of it (you may want to zoom in first)
click edit >> select >> cursor to end.
(at that point the whole right channel should be highlighted. click effect >> invert (wait for it to finish).
click the down arrow next to the blue waves thing again (the one for the left channel) and click make stereo track.
click file >> preferences. click file format tab. make sure the mp3 audio is at at least 128k, click ok
click file >> export as mp3 (if that doesn't work then just export as wave (may be around 1.2gb in size, but you re-encode that later)
then i use imtoo mpeg encoder to make it a wave container with mp3 audio @ 128k stereo. (there are better programs for this, but i don't know what they are, i don't do this much)
drag the .wav into imtoo mpeg's white area, click the file in imtoo mpeg that you dragged in.
then for the profile choose WAV. on the right were it says stuff like bitrate, sample rate... Set the "audio codec" to mp3 (don't make the profile mp3, keep it as wav), bitrate to 128k, sample to 44.1khz, channels to 2
then choose the destination and click encode
when encoding's complete, get back to virtual dub with the .avi open in it.
click video >> direct stream copy.
click audio >> WAV audio, then choose the wav file imtoo mpeg made.
click file >> save as avi. then choose the name and it should save that in about a minute.


speaking of some theater anti-piracy thing, there are other telesyncs that have had this problem. and the worst part is that its great audio when you fix it but most people don't know that and just say its sounds horrible.
i would think the scene group would at least listen to the audio first. its not like somone is gonna beat them if they release it an hour later like with tv stuff

quote:
besides at around 2:26 you hear something like a cough...
that was the animal inside the house. he point to it and says something (kinda like excuse you or what ever).

i know this is a small chance question, but is there anywhere to get English subtitles that ONLY show up when Borat is talking to his friend (and who ever else) in what ever language they talk in Kazakhstan?


Posted by kidkrate001 on 11-21-2006 01:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Frosty110
the subs are in another fucking language. thanks for not mentioning it in the nfo and not including any subs in the sample


RIght-On with that my main man Frosty110 !!!
I do see a link in the nfo to a subs-site. Are we to fix this ourselves too?
The funniest stuff in the movie is the subbed shit like the "Running of the Jews", and what he says to his friend.
I assume the subs are right off the screen, so all you have here is a little bit better version then the last time, with audio you have to fix.

If you are a mexican, then this is the bomb-ass release.
Otherwise it's just too much work.


Posted by dug123 on 11-21-2006 05:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by kidkrate001

I do see a link in the nfo to a subs-site. Are we to fix this ourselves too?


what subs link? i'm, looking at the .nfo on 2 different sites and dont see any subs link.


Posted by whenever on 11-21-2006 07:21 AM:

the lack of english subs takes quite a bit away from the film.

v - 7 Not great, but perfectly watchable
a - 4 Ugh. Even if it IS direct, that doesn't change the fact that it's so muffled that you often have to strain to make out what's being said
m - 9 hi-la-ri-ous. In the theater. Without proper subs.... 6.5


Posted by kidkrate001 on 11-22-2006 12:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dug123
what subs link? i'm, looking at the .nfo on 2 different sites and dont see any subs link.


Yeah..Sorry, It's on the vcdquality page that got you here.

http://www.vcdreview.com/out.php?s=... 12&id=65079&q=

That takes you to a subs-site where you will find Borat.


Posted by dug123 on 11-22-2006 12:40 AM:

English subtitles for Borat.TS.XViD-DiNATY (only when they are not speaking english. thanks to fredpeeps on revolutiontt)
download the .srt file then open VLC click file >> open file.
for the "open:" field click browse, locate the .avi file
click the checkbox "use a subtitles file" so its enabled
browse and locate the .srt file.
then press ok and it should play the movie with the subtitles.
btw, the audio also sounds like nice direct audio if you click audio >> audio device >> mono.

[b]Link changed to the ones mrtourture posted so people don't download the other one
http://www.opensubtitles.org/en/sub...f-kazakhstan-en


Posted by MrTorture on 11-22-2006 06:25 AM:

Thanks, dug123! These are infinitely useful.

However, the subtitles look like a translation from Spanish to English and are quit shit in a couple places, like in the Running of the Jew. So, I've taken the liberty to fix them...

http://www.opensubtitles.org/en/sub...f-kazakhstan-en

This is a direct transcription of the official movie subtitles, taken from the R.T.C. cam release. Enjoy!


Posted by stezo2k on 11-22-2006 02:16 PM:

Thanks guys i was just about to try to translate them myself


Posted by dug123 on 11-22-2006 10:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MrTorture
Thanks, dug123! These are infinitely useful.

However, the subtitles look like a translation from Spanish to English and are quit shit in a couple places, like in the Running of the Jew. So, I've taken the liberty to fix them...

http://www.opensubtitles.org/en/sub...f-kazakhstan-en

This is a direct transcription of the official movie subtitles, taken from the R.T.C. cam release. Enjoy!


the guy that made them said he used a translator... so i figured it wouldn't be perfect.
glad i didn't watch yet. would much rather use proper subtitles so thanks.


Posted by MrTorture on 11-23-2006 02:22 AM:

Makes sense. Thanks again for posting them -- the timings and such were very very useful. I just figured that since I had a version with the official subtitles, I might as well give'em a quick fix. =]


Posted by dug123 on 11-23-2006 08:31 PM:

official is much better anyway. oh and when i said i preferred proper subtitles. i was talking about the one that you put posted


Posted by alvin grung on 11-25-2006 05:12 AM:

I'm wearing a "kick me" sign at the moment - this is my first cam download in several years after vowing I'd never watch one after seeing "In the Bedroom" butchered. Really, these things are brutal, just brutal. I can't see the point - I figured the movie was of a type that would not require good quality video to be appreciated, which was a stupid assumption and doesn't give the filmmaker credit, shame on me.

But, people, when you miss the subs and can't hear the dialogue and can't see the dark corners you are responsible for ruining the film for yourself.

Tell it like it is:

V: 2

A: 2

I realize I am not rating this relative to other releases, but the whole genre is an embarrassment. Have patience or go see the film in first run.

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Posted by basskadet on 11-26-2006 10:04 PM:

I'd like to point out that IMO it is pointless inverting the audio as there are still issues.

Firstly, if you are playing it back from your computer anyway then all you need do is use a program like VLC. There, under the audio menu, you can choose between stereo or reverse stereo, left or right mono. However, you will discover pretty soon that this doesn't solve the annoying problem of the volume fluctuating.

Don't waste your time making wav files and inverting stereo channels in Audacity as the results are no different to using the settings from within VLC, and it doesn't significanty improve the sound quality in this case.

Whoever did the audio on this was a pillock in charge of a noise gate. Without going into detail this ruins the audio and if you run the film through a limiter you'll hear exactly what is going on. There is a slight hiss which you'll hear whenever there is speech and then the audio cuts out very suddenly as soon as the speech stops. That is the noise gate. This causes issues with the volume that cannot be fixed. You can try some clever compression and limiting to try and smooth it out a bit but you may end up noticeing he gaps in the sound more and the hiss they were originally trying to eliminate.

To be honest, its a shame they didn't just leave itt because the hiss ain't all that bad (I've heard worse) and I think they've sacrificed mediocre to decent audio in search of perfection and mucked it up completely.

Why can't groups actually use people who know what they are doing when it comes to audio. It can make or break a release.


Posted by batista on 11-27-2006 09:06 PM:

I think im gonna wait for a better release. The sound on this one really irritates me!


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