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Decent pic, and of course DTS audio. Good Job

Pointers

Glad to see the picture is nice, audio is great....POT should take pointers from some better up and coming groups like FRA. Glad to see quality isnt long gone out the scene.....quality was always better than quantity....


7 / 9

Alexander

well, well, well.. Judging by sample,,,

Picture is a bit well ... not great..but watchable, sound is ok

6/6/?

wow, this is very good quality for FRA.

7/8/? - only watched the sample, going to watch the whole thing tomorrow night.

Picture is ok, looks overcropped to me. Very blurry, too dark, could be brighter and have more vibrant colors. Good audio, not the best i've heard, but i still don't think this release does this movie it's justice. Sure it may suck, but that might be because it's a 3HR movie, and watching a sorta crappy version makes it hard to actually enjoy it. I myself, am going to see this in the theater..thanks for the great effort FRA. Each movie you guys release..the quality seems to improve. Just what we need, another quality TS group..keep up the good work FRA

6/7/?

::edit:: now that i think about it, CD1 is about 636MB, CD2 is about 627MB, and CD3 is about 454MB. Considering this movie IS three hours long, yes - three hours..don't you think each CD should be about 800MB for the best possible quality? I do..and i'm definately going to pass on this release now that i have thought about this.

dont be fooled by the sample, after scanning thru the first cd. Exactly same silver as POT u can see the wavy lines through the picture. Some major pixilatin on it on scene where the camera is pulled out or there is alot of detail on the screen. Over use of a noise filter to hide the lines makes the picture look blotchy.

Good example of picking a good point to make a sample that doesnt really help you judge the rest of the rls.

2/6(looks slightly off in some parts of cd1)/?

i thought this was POTs release too.definately a thumbs down for me.

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surprising.

video = 6 ...omg its the same silver!!! omg lynch these faggots!!!...cut me a break, looks much cleaner than pot rls, still some pixels in action but look smoothed out here.

audio = 9 ....yea that is dts...takes mind off the video washed colors

movie = 6 wasnt as good as anticipated gets even more wierd the more i watch

this release is far better then the ratings ppl are giving it. yes it is cropped but the f*cking pic is nice the sound is nice i'm mean f*ck what do you ppl want.you get a very decent release and you still complain.enjoy the freakin movie and shut the hell up.f*ck it's very watchable and i meam watchable.so get you a bag of popcorn and a coke and shut the f up.


pic 7.5

audio 8

movie 8

Has anyone checked the sync thru the three disks?
would rather pots cam sound than out of sync TS..not DL either yet so if someone could post about sync it would help me out a great deal

you guys are nuts, i have the of this movie here, and this is not from the silver, the silver doesn't have the green tint in here, is has a blue tint,
c'mon guys, FRA again toke pot video and released it with audio,

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i'm fairly certain although NOT positive that they would be accused of using the same Silver as POT...and thats why they included the source sample file sample mpg..

Notice in the sample mpg the pic is far more cropped and sound has a constant hiss...This looks nothing like the other sample included by FRA. The second sample shows a much cleaner pic, and more widescreen than FS looking, although still grainy..and Sound has no hiss of course being DTS sourced...

I refuse to watch this film until an excellent SVCD TS copy pres..or Screener or better...A 3 hour Epic is worth the wait for me...

From the sample: 7/8/Waiting

GO fra


Deffenatly nicer video then bots releases, still a little blurry but a improvment over pots, video has good colors, and is a little dark, Sound is really nice DTS sound. movie looks watchable

7/9/?

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Big-up!

Well done! FRA getting better! So what if they used the same silver for source video? it goes up a grade with the DTS soundtrack i had no hissing on it at all!
6/9/5
Very early rls props out to POT and FRA!
If it is taken from a silver then surely it don't matter about picture source as it is sort of stolen in the first place? Some guy in the USA or Malaysia has cammed this for silver distribution! No group sat in a cinema filming it, bothered to work on the foibles of direct audio!
So who cares! if you like watching 3 hours of average quality video with DTS sound then this one is for you! If you don't care (like most of us) and you just want to have this movie first then the POT version is for you, they won the first rls race!
sweeeeeeeeeeet!
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Originally posted by vip3r
::edit:: now that i think about it, CD1 is about 636MB, CD2 is about 627MB, and CD3 is about 454MB. Considering this movie IS three hours long, yes - three hours..don't you think each CD should be about 800MB for the best possible quality? I do..and i'm definately going to pass on this release now that i have thought about this.

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Hi everyone,

This is the same silver source as Pot's release, this has nice DTS audio but cd1 is out of sync slightly and needs a skew correction of -275 ms. I haven't chked the other 2 cd's yet.

The bottom has been cropped more than Pot's to remove the screen curve, the top is the same as Pot's.

lol im confused. if a group releases semi-good video (POT) and semi-good cam audio (POT) why shouldn't a group be able to come along and IMPROVE on the sound??? I mean come on. If POT can't get DTS than why not let FRA get it for them?? Makes sense to me....I mean THEATRE QUALITY DTS? Or cam quality?? Pretty easy decision there...

As for this release
Video--7
Audio--8
Movie--dunno really...reviews have made it out to be another Troy (aka shite).

Hi everyone,

Just to let you know cd2 and cd3 are slightly out of sync as well with a -275 ms skew correction needed.

Re: Alexander

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Originally posted by Samantha
well, well, well.. Judging by sample,,,

Picture is a bit well ... not great..but watchable, sound is ok

6/6/?

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no better than pots. all in all that is. hope after the weekend theres a good one 6/7/7

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Re: Pointers

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Originally posted by Sh1z
Glad to see the picture is nice, audio is great....POT should take pointers from some better up and coming groups like FRA. Glad to see quality isnt long gone out the scene.....quality was always better than quantity....


7 / 9

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Hmmmm the source for FRA is even better then POT. So I dont think they used POT video. This release is much better then POTs. Audio is 10x better. It still doesnt make a bad movie good


7/8/3

Re: Pointers

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Originally posted by Sh1z
Glad to see the picture is nice, audio is great....POT should take pointers from some better up and coming groups like FRA. Glad to see quality isnt long gone out the scene.....quality was always better than quantity....


7 / 9

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not bad......

i dunno how anyone can vote 7 or higher for the picture on this;

Picture - Very Very blurry , theres while lines all over the picture that run horizontal throught the whole movie, the colors are crap and bleeding , all cams/telesyncs yes are cropped to some degree but this copy is very very cropped.

Sound - I didnt see any sync issues , nicly sync'd direct audio

I tried to watch this copy but 1/4 the way through CD1 , i deleted. Movie looks like shit so i aint going to theater to watch it, ill wait more likley for a screener to see this movie .. not in any rush. As for FRA's copy , its watchable ... barley.

5/8/?

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Originally posted by firefighter
i dunno how anyone can vote 7 or higher for the picture on this;

Picture - Very Very blurry , theres while lines all over the picture that run horizontal throught the whole movie, the colors are crap and bleeding , all cams/telesyncs yes are cropped to some degree but this copy is very very cropped.

Sound - I didnt see any sync issues , nicly sync'd direct audio

I tried to watch this copy but 1/4 the way through CD1 , i deleted. Movie looks like shit so i aint going to theater to watch it, ill wait more likley for a screener to see this movie .. not in any rush. As for FRA's copy , its watchable ... barley.

5/8/?

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wouldnt be that bad if it werent for all the wavey lines going through it. the lines are really a distraction, plus its a little dark, sound is ok but slightly off sync.

Not sure if this video deserves a 7 rating. The colors are nice, but the video is grainy and not clear. The sound is very good and to be honest, this is the best version we have available to us. Thanks for your support FRA and it is appreciated.

V-6.5
A-8
M-7

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Originally posted by vip3r
Picture is ok, looks overcropped to me. Very blurry, too dark, could be brighter and have more vibrant colors. Good audio, not the best i've heard, but i still don't think this release does this movie it's justice. Sure it may suck, but that might be because it's a 3HR movie, and watching a sorta crappy version makes it hard to actually enjoy it. I myself, am going to see this in the theater..thanks for the great effort FRA. Each movie you guys release..the quality seems to improve. Just what we need, another quality TS group..keep up the good work FRA

6/7/?

::edit:: now that i think about it, CD1 is about 636MB, CD2 is about 627MB, and CD3 is about 454MB. Considering this movie IS three hours long, yes - three hours..don't you think each CD should be about 800MB for the best possible quality? I do..and i'm definately going to pass on this release now that i have thought about this.

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Originally posted by 3FaCE
lol im confused. if a group releases semi-good video (POT) and semi-good cam audio (POT) why shouldn't a group be able to come along and IMPROVE on the sound??? I mean come on. If POT can't get DTS than why not let FRA get it for them?? Makes sense to me....I mean THEATRE QUALITY DTS? Or cam quality?? Pretty easy decision there...

As for this release
Video--7
Audio--8
Movie--dunno really...reviews have made it out to be another Troy (aka shite).

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good stuff..not the best pic, but audio is right on and looked better on the television..

7/8/8 movie was actually good just too damn long...and when did 26year old Angelina Jolie look old enough to have Colin ...

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You guys talk to much about how its stolen source and all this other crap, that some of you forget to rate the movie and some of you dont even say anything like 7/8/9.. You guys just say looks good and thats it.

video is ok
sound is good
movie is kind of boring

6/8/5 <--------some of you forget about this

rate the release

rls is pretty descent...not to bad a lil blurry but definately watchable...sound is very nice ...as for movie i only seen a lil of it so far but it looks very interesting...overall a very nice rls..good job fra!


Video-6.5
Audio-8.5
Movie-?

This movie is a piece of shit..

6/6/5

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D'oh!

Just watched disc 1 ; the DTS is killer and the pic is very good! Serious PROPS to FRA...
8/8/8
I liked it. There were some noticable wavy lines in the very begining but after that nothing to distract from the movie. Color was good and not dark where it shouldn't have been.... some of you are way picky or your re-coding needs work.... I got mine from EN; using RAR 3.0. Burned using Alch 1.4 on TDK CDR with NEC 3500.
TURN IT UP!!! wow.

the audio is pretty good, but the pics is blurry and blocky

so i guess u can rate this a so so copy

not the best out there , but good as it gets for the time being

Re: Re: Alexander

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Originally posted by TheReal_Kaitain
Well, well, well, judging by your post you didn't even bother to WATCH the torrent before commenting on it. A sample does not count.

Please don't voice an opinion on something you haven't seen. This is a huge problem, how many people vote on bills without even reading them. Don't be part of the problem, be part of the solution. Think before you speak, watch the torrent before you give an opinion about it.

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by far this is fra's best and noone can deny that, sure its got those lines but when you sit back and watch it they arent even really noticeable, unless you use a 50" flatscreen i guess lol. the sound was very nice except for a few scenes where certain things were much louder then anything else...other then that great job!

7/8.5/8

Decent release. Picture is a little blurry but very watchable, sound is great.
Unfortunately the movie sucked ass it was very inaccurate. You'd suspect these people to know the facts if they are doing a historical movie.

Oh well, if you're dying to see it this release will be nice for ya to get If you are patient you can always wait for a svcd-version

6/8/2

medium wuality....don't like the picture....although nice sound....
6/8/???want to watch
i hope an svcd ts will come out but nothing yet.... maybe there wont be any svcd ts like national treasure...bacause the vcd ts suppose to have good quality...what u think???

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Originally posted by rivaldo
medium wuality....don't like the picture....although nice sound....
6/8/???want to watch
i hope an svcd ts will come out but nothing yet.... maybe there wont be any svcd ts like national treasure...bacause the vcd ts suppose to have good quality...what u think???

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what?/???
really??and where is the nfo??havent seen that release...maybe fake....

its free, cant complain

good release, a little washed out, good sound.. good for FRA
Movie is cheesy though (what's up with angelina's russian accent?)

7/7/5

have just downloaded 1 in bin cue file a few blips but 2hrs 49mins on 1 disc