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Posted by DaGaMe87 on 08-09-2003 01:53 PM:

Brilliant quality as i can see from sample, cant wait to d/l it all, 9hrs though , but its worth it, sample should of been where neo fights agent smith, the greatest fight scene ever

Posted by Wolter on 08-09-2003 03:12 PM:

sry, but i'm confused, can it be true a DVD-Rip just a few days after the Screener? Or is it just a PDVD-Rip?

Posted by Ricc81 on 08-09-2003 03:29 PM:

It's a DVD-rip.

The quality is excellent!

Props to ESVCD! Pathetic rules considering .gi files though.

Posted by wallinski on 08-09-2003 03:39 PM:

Just checked it out on my 104 inch screen Looks very good. Looked like a pal retail copy. Had menuanimation and lots of subtitles choices. Full dd 5.1 surround sound. No extras but I believe that retail is gonna be 2 discs so that's not a surprise. This looks like the real deal people. Download and be happy

Posted by gemvis on 08-09-2003 03:46 PM:

yes its a true true dvdrip complete with menus etc and from r2 retail and believe me i know .

Posted by debug77 on 08-09-2003 04:00 PM:

Just watched the sample too. Certainly doesn't look like it's from either VHS Screener or PDVD sources! Very Nice!!!

Posted by neoparadox on 08-09-2003 04:15 PM:

This is a real DVD rip, not a PDVD or a screener. VCDQuality is slow though, this was released yesterday morning.

Posted by pHo on 08-09-2003 04:38 PM:

nearly as slow as the people who ripped this disc. oh i crack myself up. this is why i ignore groups i've not heard of before

edit : not saying i haven't heard of ESVCD. i just haven't heard anything good ever said about em

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Posted by chrisb2k1 on 08-09-2003 04:54 PM:

Excellent quality, watched it this morning. Was actually expecting some cheap attempt of someone putting the screener on dvd with a menu. I was wrong, looks and sounds excellent. Nice n early too by about 2 months

Great job!

As for the .gi files. Don't see why it should be nuked. It took literally 1 minute to put it back to ISO using ESVCD's fix nfo.

Posted by garagekru on 08-09-2003 05:01 PM:

well done boys

great release - dont worry about the gi image

9/10/8

good encode, overall a very nice early pre

Posted by Vcdman45 on 08-09-2003 06:14 PM:

Defenitly a DVD-R...Amazing picture and sound..Very fast rls on this good of a DVD-R...mayjor props to ESVCD...keep em comin!!!

9.5/9.5/9

Posted by Ar`Kritz on 08-10-2003 07:08 AM:

Ok, I'm *really* sorry for being the n00b here, but after having downloaded the movie I can't get the RIDEMYPENIS fix working. All it does is deleting the matrel.gi file. What am I supposed to do, xept NOT using the "fix"? Anyone?

Posted by wongtong2g on 08-10-2003 11:41 AM:

what was the original problem with the .gi's?

is this just an application issue? or will the final burn be messed up?

Posted by Somanian on 08-10-2003 01:26 PM:

HI
Use Prassi Primodvd, go to loading image files and load the smallest file and let the file names keep their brackets.

Cheers

Posted by JoshNya on 08-10-2003 07:25 PM:

To use the fix u must first take out the space from the .gi file names

(ie: matrel (11).gi (to) matrel(11).gi)

do this for file 11,12,13

then run rmp-m2dvdrproperfix.bat

takes about 15 min
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This is definatly a PDVD
Stream:
Type: MPEG2
Bitrate: 7.500 Mbps
Framerate: 25.000 Hz
Resolution: 720x576
Aspect ratio: 16x9

Never seen a DVD Coded less then 9.000 Mbps, especially without any DTS.

Also has a cheesy menu.. parts from the movie. But for a
PDVD it does look nice. Definatly not retail.
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Posted by leaker on 08-11-2003 12:28 AM:

First of all you don't need the Fix use Pioneer RecordNow DX
software. If you plan on playing this on your standalone DVD player it won't play if your player is not region 2 compatible. I have 3 DVD players so I had no problems. The Dolby Digital was solid sounded better on my home theatre than the theatres.
I would love this thing if it was DTS. The retail is not DTS...this sucks. probably wait for a superbit edition. The menu is exactly what the retail will look like according to original source. There is sort of a problem with the picture aspect ratio since this is in pal it might be the reason. When in anamorphic mode the picture seems too squash. when anamorphic is off its longated. Anyways this release is good til retail in october. will still buy the original.
Its a good movie with cool special effects. The only thing I hate about it is too much f*****g talking.

Posted by pHo on 08-11-2003 03:00 AM:

never seen a dvd below 9mbit ? what in hells name are you smoking! most dvds average between 4 and 6mbit. your bitrate software sounds shit.

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Posted by Gecko on 08-11-2003 04:08 AM:

I would back up what has already been said by also guessing this is indeed a PAL RENTAL DVD copy. Menus are nice, but simple, sound and picture perfect.

Pity the film is so awful.

Posted by JoshNya on 08-11-2003 09:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
never seen a dvd below 9mbit ? what in hells name are you smoking! most dvds average between 4 and 6mbit. your bitrate software sounds shit.

Exactly, average 4-6, not max bitrate. This is maxbitrate 7mbit. If the final DVD looks like this then I'll eat my shoes. And I'll be back to gloat when the retail comes out with cgi interactive menus, dts, and extras. This thing doesnt even have so much as a trailer, or fake vobs to show maybe something should be there, I seen better STV menus then this. If you believe this is retail, then pHo, I'll never let you forget you said that. If I'm wrong, I'll never doubt you again. It's a bet.

Posted by Challenger on 08-11-2003 10:27 AM:

One single dvd also have to be filled up some time, and what do you think the second dvd in the original releases are for? extra's perhaps?

Posted by Metallifux on 08-11-2003 01:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoshNya
Exactly, average 4-6, not max bitrate. This is maxbitrate 7mbit. If the final DVD looks like this then I'll eat my shoes. And I'll be back to gloat when the retail comes out with cgi interactive menus, dts, and extras. This thing doesnt even have so much as a trailer, or fake vobs to show maybe something should be there, I seen better STV menus then this. If you believe this is retail, then pHo, I'll never let you forget you said that. If I'm wrong, I'll never doubt you again. It's a bet.

Max Bit rate is set at encoding time and you can set it too whatever you like, I personally would have gone with 9.8MBps but hell I didn't rip the disk.

Posted by magik2k3 on 08-11-2003 02:24 PM:

Well I got this bitch dloaded yesterday and wrote it off using RecordNow Max,no probs wotsoever.I would say it is deffo some Rental DVD,I've ripped loads of em from the local DVD rental shop n they all have had really boring front ends,yawnsville arizona type thangs.The quality of this release is brilliant,so wot if the menu sux,I for one really don't give a shit,I'll wait to buy the real retail before I start complaining about something that cost me next to nothing to download.

Posted by magik2k3 on 08-11-2003 02:30 PM:

.gi files

Just a quick mention for those that don't have RecordNow Max or Prassi.You can use DVD Decrypter to write .gi files,simply goto Settings/Registry n set the prog to accept all file types,sorted.

Posted by StreetPreacher on 08-11-2003 04:51 PM:

magik, you almost answered my question

If I just burn the .gi with Prassi I shouldn't have a problem, right?

-Sp

Posted by lonedawg on 08-11-2003 05:17 PM:

nice one esvcd, the .gi issue is nothing to worry about - keep up the good work!

10/10/8

Posted by homestate on 08-11-2003 08:29 PM:

Streetpreacher,

You will have no problem burning the *.gi files with Prassi. It is probably the program the group used to make the *.gi files in the first place.

Posted by Michael14100 on 08-11-2003 09:22 PM:

but isnt this a pre retail dvd? sure it could change in the months it has to come out? u know kinda like a beta? basicy saying this probably isnt the finished product

Posted by lonedawg on 08-11-2003 11:38 PM:

no DTS = no 5.1 channel sound?

Posted by tony532 on 08-12-2003 12:40 AM:

no mate will still have digital 5.1 sound on it. digital theatre system sound is 24bits compared to 18bit of dolby digital. takes up about 3 times more space than a dolby digital soundtrack.

have a look here if the link still works

http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/dts.htm

Posted by wallinski on 08-12-2003 01:06 AM:

Matrix will never have DTS on it. Warner Brothers which is the company releasing it does not support DTS on their Dvd's. They tried with a couple of titles a few years ago but did not continue to support it. The only ones released with dts through Warner are morgan creek prouductions I believe and even then there are only a couple of them out. I'd be suprised if this is not retail/rental copy. I have a rather large screen and this looks too good to be anything else. Very sharp even though it must have been downsampled. Makes me wonder what the original is gonna look like when they use a dvd-9.

Posted by lonedawg on 08-12-2003 12:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tony532
no mate will still have digital 5.1 sound on it. digital theatre system sound is 24bits compared to 18bit of dolby digital. takes up about 3 times more space than a dolby digital soundtrack.

have a look here if the link still works

http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/dts.htm

ah! cheers

Posted by weraspamyfamily on 08-12-2003 01:45 PM:

Wait.... so in Europe, are there two different DVDs. One for purchasing, and one for rental, and the menu and everything is different?

Posted by velocity3k on 08-12-2003 04:37 PM:

This is a pre-retail dvd, the menus will look exactly the same on the retail dvd that is going to come out in october, if you don't believe me go to dvdanswers.com and check out the screenshots they have from the retail dvd, they are identical.

quote:

JoshNya
Exactly, average 4-6, not max bitrate. This is maxbitrate 7mbit. If the final DVD looks like this then I'll eat my shoes. And I'll be back to gloat when the retail comes out with cgi interactive menus, dts, and extras. This thing doesnt even have so much as a trailer, or fake vobs to show maybe something should be there, I seen better STV menus then this. If you believe this is retail, then pHo, I'll never let you forget you said that. If I'm wrong, I'll never doubt you again. It's a bet.

This is a downsampled version of the final dvd, the video quality will obviously be better on the final retail dvd. The retail, will not come with "cgi interactive menus" or "dts" tracks. WB rarely release a movie with DTS tracks, Twister is the only movie i can think of, that had a DTS track and it hit 1056kb/s at peaks. The extras are on the second dvd, but it is nothing compared to the "matrix:revisited" DVD.

Posted by da5park on 08-12-2003 09:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoshNya
This thing doesnt even have so much as a trailer,

hmm so the Trailer for Revolutions right at the end of the titles doesnt count eh...

Like said above, the .gi files arent a problem... burn the image with PrimoDVD as a global image, it works a treat. As for the copy? Quality

Posted by magik2k3 on 08-13-2003 01:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by weraspamyfamily
Wait.... so in Europe, are there two different DVDs. One for purchasing, and one for rental, and the menu and everything is different?

That's right,in UK the rentals have NO extras on em,just boring fronts n film

Posted by Dj Rayray on 08-13-2003 02:20 AM:

AWSOME RELEASE!! I'm so glad my dvd player plays PAL!

GREAT JOB!!

Posted by RMF on 08-13-2003 11:15 AM:

God, i can't believe that people are moaning about this release. The quality is superb, and the menu is fine as far as i'm concerned. Also, there are plenty of movies which use scenes from the movie in their menu's. If you like i could rattle off a very long list.

Also, why moan about it not having any trailers when any extra video on the disc other than whats there now would degrade the quality of the film?

Props to ESVC, this is a great release. 9/9/9

Posted by ek247 on 08-13-2003 01:45 PM:

Some people have forgot that the retail is a DVD-9, whereas what we have downloaded is a downsampled version. Therefire quality will never as good as a retail version.

Posted by magik2k3 on 08-14-2003 12:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by RMF
God, i can't believe that people are moaning about this release. The quality is superb, and the menu is fine as far as i'm concerned. Also, there are plenty of movies which use scenes from the movie in their menu's. If you like i could rattle off a very long list.

Also, why moan about it not having any trailers when any extra video on the disc other than whats there now would degrade the quality of the film?

Props to ESVC, this is a great release. 9/9/9

I think I may have been a tad misleading with my last post,I was simply saying that in the UK most dvd's released come in 2 flavas,Retail and Rental,the latter having no extras etc.
I certainly wasn't complaining about the quality of this release,as I stated in an earlier post,the quality is brilliant,and yes Props should go to esvcd for their great work.
And I totally agree with RMF,people shouldn't be moaning about it,it was free,well near as damn free,I recently bought "I spit on your grave" and the quality of that was atrocious.The sodding thing was jumping backwards and forwards thru the film,totally unwatchable,it wasn't my player nor the disc,it was the actual transcode that had gone wrong and nobody bothered to check it before it went on release,well that's what they told me anyway.I payed good dosh for that 1,and I DID have a legitimate complaint.
Unlike any of us that download these things for basically peanuts,of course the majority of people complaining could probably do a better job than the groups that release them,but because they are sat in here moaning on about practically every(free) release,thay haven't got the time to go out and do something about them.Wake up people,next thing is you'll be complaing that the bastards don't provide the coke and popcorn for you along with your free film.

Bit of a waffle that,my next book will be released by Penguin on the 22nd of August,that is unless some group gets hold of it first n forgets to add an extra chapter that was never there in the first place so everyone can have a good old freakin moan about it!

Posted by RMF on 08-14-2003 01:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by magik2k3
I recently bought "I spit on your grave" and the quality of that was atrocious.The sodding thing was jumping backwards and forwards thru the film,totally unwatchable,it wasn't my player nor the disc,it was the actual transcode that had gone wrong and nobody bothered to check it before it went on release,well that's what they told me anyway.I payed good dosh for that 1,and I DID have a legitimate complaint.

You should see the bought copy of Donnie Darko that i have. It's terrible. It's like a very badly encoded divx film. I can't believe that they can get away with releasing crap like that for people to buy. Oh...and my original of Snatch is pretty bad aswell.

quote:
Bit of a waffle that,my next book will be released by Penguin on the 22nd of August,that is unless some group gets hold of it first n forgets to add an extra chapter that was never there in the first place so everyone can have a good old freakin moan about it!

LOL!

Posted by tomsinan on 08-15-2003 01:00 PM:

First of all u did a very good job on this. The quality is superb and this must be from an original PAL DVD, because when I watch it the whole menu is in german language. Also when i change the region of my dvd player to UK the menu language becomes english. that is usual with wb dvds. The DVD automatically recognizes your players default language.

THE only thing I got really disappointed about was the fact, that GERMAN 5.1 hat to go. I know there may be not many people who would have appreciated that, but this minority would have been happy as hell, if they had got it.and the quality would not have been harmed, 300 Megabytes would have made 5% of the picture maybe.

i hope u will bring out the language track maybe seperately.

But very good work though ! ! !

Posted by kjeks on 08-16-2003 05:01 PM:

Suits them well!
Why should we suffer for the idiot germans want to watch a dubbed movie?

They should learn som english! Its ok that they dub movies like "finding Nemo" and other kid movies, but GEEZ.. bet they'll start dubbing musicvideos too..

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Posted by akmedsc on 08-17-2003 02:58 AM:

burning problems?

anyone else have probs with this? chokes @ 97% as both .gi and meged into one .iso...

Posted by pji on 08-18-2003 12:51 AM:

Re: burning problems?

quote:
Originally posted by akmedsc
anyone else have probs with this? chokes @ 97% as both .gi and meged into one .iso...

Yeah, happens to me as well. I run the .bat and it works away..but the .iso disappars...

End of file or some such error.

Any ideas?

Posted by Ricc81 on 08-19-2003 06:20 PM:

If you have FAT32 you won't be able to make the .iso of the .gi files. Convert your filesystem to NTSC and it should work fine.

I didn't have any problem running the patch. Works excellent.

:: NTSC is a video format. i think u mean NTFS -pHo

Posted by Bathgate on 08-21-2003 06:29 AM:

.gi files

How do I watch .gi files, like I want to extract the .dv2 or .d2v or .vob file from the .gi. if I convert it to iso will i be able to extract it? i dont have a dvd burner.

Posted by Trigger68 on 09-03-2003 01:37 PM:

Menu ????

Does anyone else get a small part of the movie play before the menu??? I load up the disc and it plays about 30 secs of the movie (Morpheous? and the other black guy are in the ship getiing ready to dock) it then stops playing as if its crashed, but if i press play the proper menu appears, also after the end credits i get Neo's dream sequence play then return to the main menu.

No Revolutions Trailers either.

Damn

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