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Posted by SPS on 08-18-2003 07:39 PM:

Jurassic Park IV

Yup! Guess some of you knew it already tho...

Its said to be released in summer 2005.

William Monahan have been writing the screenplay based on the characters by Crichton (rumors said Crichton have been touching the screenplay more this time, in jp3 he never touched it). Monahan have been written the upcoming movie by Ridley Scott "Tripoli" (2004).

The cast atm is Sam Neill from JP1 & JP3 and Kiera Knightly (From Pirates Of The Carribean & Bend It Like Beckham). Rumors also telling that Jeff Gouldblums and his character Ian Malcolm will return in JPIV.

The only thing said about the script is that it wont take place on any of the two Islands (Isla Sorna & Isla Nublar). One of the producers (cant remember the name) said something like "This time it will be different, it wont be green this time, no djungle". So, desert? Alot of city scenes? Who knows?

The idea and script of the movie is said to be very well done. Spielberg even said "Its such a good idea, if it succeeds, it might be one of the best JP movies made".

The director isnt decided, but Joe Johnston (who made JP3) is said not to return this time. Rumors saying Spielberg even might direct it because he liked the script so much. But I think he will go and just produce it like he did with JP3...

Anyone know anything more about upcoming JPIV? More cast? Rumors?

Im a big fan of this movies and cant wait for this one Tho my english sucks pretty much *sry for that*

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Posted by petrocs on 08-18-2003 08:12 PM:

I'd see it..but it had better be good

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Posted by DethStar on 08-18-2003 09:56 PM:

Gah!

Tonight on E! True Hollywood story: 'When awesome movies get squels that get worse and worse and wose!'

There's just no way to re-create the originallity of the story and special effects of the original

Posted by lax01 on 08-19-2003 05:13 AM:

yeah I saw this on FilmForce a while ago...I think the idea sounds awful. I don't care if Michael Chriton and Steven Speilburg (sp? murder those names) do it by themselves. They have killed the series. JP3 was garbage at best. let it die, let it die...

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Posted by KayDawg on 08-19-2003 08:54 AM:

I absolutely LOVED JP1 and 2. It took me about a year to make up my mind and conclude that 1 was better than 2, but damn 2 came as close as you could get to perfection.(apart from 1 which was flawless :} )
3 was great as far as the effects and characters, but the story could have used a lot of work. It seemed really rushed and half assed. I still loved the movie because JP rules :}
the dinosaurs make the movie. 1 was made by the effects/dinosaurs, and most importantly the story, but once the story was set, it was pure gold. 2 didn't need as great a story as 1 cuz 1 set the mood for all the future jp's..but then a totally half assed story in part 3 didn't help. though i still enjoyed it
i'm a supporter of this one and don't ever want the JP series to die!

Posted by SPS on 08-19-2003 09:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by KayDawg
I absolutely LOVED JP1 and 2. It took me about a year to make up my mind and conclude that 1 was better than 2, but damn 2 came as close as you could get to perfection.(apart from 1 which was flawless :} )
3 was great as far as the effects and characters, but the story could have used a lot of work. It seemed really rushed and half assed. I still loved the movie because JP rules :}
the dinosaurs make the movie. 1 was made by the effects/dinosaurs, and most importantly the story, but once the story was set, it was pure gold. 2 didn't need as great a story as 1 cuz 1 set the mood for all the future jp's..but then a totally half assed story in part 3 didn't help. though i still enjoyed it
i'm a supporter of this one and don't ever want the JP series to die!

True :-) Except they changed to much in the Lost World from the book, they should have stayed to the novel more... As they did in the first movie...

JP3 was a great action movie! But nothing more... The story as you said, was god damn simple.... Tho they leave some big plotholes wich they dont fill in.... Like when Dr. Grant says something like: "No, cause the Spinosaurus wasnt on Ingens list, and that make me wonder what they now are up to" ... Things like that never explains :P

I hope JPIV will ROCK

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Posted by horizonstar on 08-19-2003 11:27 AM:

Re: Jurassic Park IV

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Originally posted by SPS
The idea and script of the movie is said to be very well done. Spielberg even said "Its such a good idea, if it succeeds, it might be one of the best JP movies made".

hahaha ... what kind of bizarre claim is that? "out of these 4 movies, it might be one of the best of them!"

I never did get around to seeing #3 because I heard it was awful, but I did enjoy 1 and 2. I got hooked on Crichton back in 1991 when the summer camp I was at got us all pre-release copies of the book. I guess that was my first pre. *sniffle*

Say what you will about the movie adaptations, but I really like Crichton's books ...

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Posted by Bobby-Whiskey on 08-19-2003 01:36 PM:

Re: Jurassic Park IV

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Originally posted by SPS

The only thing said about the script is that it wont take place on any of the two Islands (Isla Sorna & Isla Nublar). One of the producers (cant remember the name) said something like "This time it will be different, it wont be green this time, no djungle". So, desert? Alot of city scenes? Who knows?

How about dino's in SPACE? Yeah that'll really liven up this dead horse for a few more whacks. </the fucker who thought of doing a jp4>

jp3 SUCKED. I'd only get excited about 4 if either Spielberg directed or if they went psycho violent with an R rating.

Posted by SPS on 08-19-2003 01:39 PM:

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Originally posted by Bobby-Whiskey
How about dino's in SPACE? Yeah that'll really liven up this dead horse for a few more whacks. </the fucker who thought of doing a jp4>

jp3 SUCKED. I'd only get excited about 4 if either Spielberg directed or if they went psycho violent with an R rating.

In SPACE? nah really I dont think so

But ppl talk about a BLUE movie, with alot of water scenes and those "under-water-loch-ness-dinosaurs".... But I really dont like that idea...

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Posted by 65dos on 08-19-2003 02:08 PM:

I think it would be cool if the dinosaurs we transported to the future where they had to get office jobs and wear ties. People treated them like normal humans but they are still just huge dinosaurs with no idea what's going on! Imagine if you will an office with lots of cubicles in it. In one is a huge triceratops looking pissed because he's in the future and doesn't know why. he's butting the shit out of his cubicle. His supervisor comes over with an arm full of documents and says "Hi, I'm gonna need you to have these ready for Mr. Weisner by... AAAAAARRRRGHHH!!!!" The tricertops just stomps on his fucking head.

Posted by The CandyMan on 08-19-2003 02:19 PM:

Re: Re: Jurassic Park IV

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Originally posted by horizonstar
Say what you will about the movie adaptations, but I really like Crichton's books ...

I agree, most of his books, other than Timeline, are pretty good. But anyone who reads one a regular basis knows that the books are always going to be better than a movie adaptation.

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Posted by 404notfound on 08-19-2003 02:53 PM:

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Originally posted by The CandyMan
...But anyone who reads one a regular basis knows that the books are always going to be better than a movie adaptation.

Indeed. I was deeply disappointed with both JP 1 and 2 due to the fact the books were soooooooo much better. JP2 is dire in my opinion and i only hold JP1 in high esteem due to what it accomplished visually on screen.

Personally i preferred 3 due to the fact there was no book associated with it. I just sat back and enjoyed! The same cant be said with JP1 and JP2 which are poor in comparison.

404

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Posted by SPS on 08-19-2003 04:23 PM:

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Originally posted by 404notfound
Indeed. I was deeply disappointed with both JP 1 and 2 due to the fact the books were soooooooo much better. JP2 is dire in my opinion and i only hold JP1 in high esteem due to what it accomplished visually on screen.

Personally i preferred 3 due to the fact there was no book associated with it. I just sat back and enjoyed! The same cant be said with JP1 and JP2 which are poor in comparison.

404

you have apperently read the books.... In TLW they are saying something about a DX desiece? That all dinosaurs are sick (which is made clear in JP1 with the sick triceratops & the brachiosaurus) and are going to die.... You know anything about that? You think they will make a script based upon such a thing?

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Posted by MovieGod on 08-19-2003 06:50 PM:

I had to chime in my two cents on this subject. All the rewrites of the script have been done over and over and over again. What I do know is this.

Joe Johnston ( I thiink his name was), director of JP3, will once again helm JP4, but from inside reports Spielberg has been pushing his weight around, because filming has not started yet.

That is gr8 they have some of the original cast in this one. Makes it to be more believable.

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Posted by InSaNeOnE on 08-19-2003 07:09 PM:

The lost world the book was superb,

They completly ballsed it up with the movie though

Posted by SPS on 08-19-2003 07:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MovieGod
I had to chime in my two cents on this subject. All the rewrites of the script have been done over and over and over again. What I do know is this.

Joe Johnston ( I thiink his name was), director of JP3, will once again helm JP4, but from inside reports Spielberg has been pushing his weight around, because filming has not started yet.

That is gr8 they have some of the original cast in this one. Makes it to be more believable.

tell me more holy God

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Posted by KayDawg on 08-19-2003 08:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SPS
]True :-) Except they changed to much in the Lost World from the book, they should have stayed to the novel more... As they did in the first movie...

Si senor. The books for 1 & 2 were both supreme.

quote:
I hope JPIV will ROCK

It'd better

Posted by dc_man on 08-20-2003 01:59 AM:

Better damn well be good.

Posted by KayDawg on 08-20-2003 02:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by diversegenetics
I think it would be cool if the dinosaurs we transported to the future where they had to get office jobs and wear ties. People treated them like normal humans but they are still just huge dinosaurs with no idea what's going on! Imagine if you will an office with lots of cubicles in it. In one is a huge triceratops looking pissed because he's in the future and doesn't know why. he's butting the shit out of his cubicle. His supervisor comes over with an arm full of documents and says "Hi, I'm gonna need you to have these ready for Mr. Weisner by... AAAAAARRRRGHHH!!!!" The tricertops just stomps on his fucking head.

lmao. I rarely laugh out loud reading posts here but that's ****ing hilarious.

Posted by horizonstar on 08-20-2003 02:57 AM:

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Originally posted by KayDawg
lmao. I rarely laugh out loud reading posts here but that's ****ing hilarious.

I agree! I was just about to say the exact same thing.

I started reading it thinking, "What is this guy on???" and then I just lost all control over my bodily functions and fell out of my chair.

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Posted by Superjoint on 08-22-2003 06:53 PM:

I read somewhere that the plots been changed around a lot of times and one of the plots for it is that off the coast of costa rica people have been getting killed and stuff by ht edinosaurs,and then they send a team to contain the dinosaurs but,that plots kinda lame,theres also one about a Rival company that was creating Dinosaurs around InGens time called like Bylar or something like that I dunno,lost of plot ideas for this movie,but it better bring back the originality of the first one cause the alst 2 movies sucked

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Posted by ^Om3n on 08-22-2003 10:26 PM:

A flop even before its made. They have used all the ideas they can. Anything they try to come up with is going to seem lame, i liked the effects in all 3, but one can't be beat, 2 was okay, decent plot, 3 was tired... 4 will be a complete waiste of time.

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Posted by XeroFightsAlone on 08-22-2003 10:30 PM:

*does raptor impression*

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Posted by dummie on 08-23-2003 12:38 AM:

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Originally posted by 404notfound
Indeed. I was deeply disappointed with both JP 1 and 2 due to the fact the books were soooooooo much better. JP2 is dire in my opinion and i only hold JP1 in high esteem due to what it accomplished visually on screen.

Personally i preferred 3 due to the fact there was no book associated with it. I just sat back and enjoyed! The same cant be said with JP1 and JP2 which are poor in comparison.

404

Sorry cant agree with you on jp1 & 2(although you cant seem to make your mind up on jp1).I think 1 & 2 were very entertaining 3 was so so.as for jp4 it will be a box office smash mark my words,if speilberg is involved he will do all he can to regain any kudos he lost re-jp3.

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Posted by XeroFightsAlone on 08-23-2003 04:37 AM:

order of appreciation
1. Jurassic Park
2. Jurassic Park III
3. The Lost World: Jurassic Park II (dinosaurs in los angeles )
this one will probably be in space

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Posted by 404notfound on 08-23-2003 12:26 PM:

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Originally posted by dummie
Sorry cant agree with you on jp1 & 2(although you cant seem to make your mind up on jp1).I think 1 & 2 were very entertaining 3 was so so.as for jp4 it will be a box office smash mark my words,if speilberg is involved he will do all he can to regain any kudos he lost re-jp3.

Hmmm... I can hold something in high asteem and be dissapointed with it. It was the awesome never before visuals that i loved but the story compared to the book was dissapointing.

Obviously i dint make myself clear last time.

I want to see 4 purely for Kiera Knightley

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Posted by KayDawg on 08-23-2003 07:43 PM:

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Originally posted by XeroFightsAlone
order of appreciation
1. Jurassic Park
2. Jurassic Park III
3. The Lost World: Jurassic Park II (dinosaurs in los angeles )
this one will probably be in space

you must DIE for dissing jpII

Posted by gav on 08-24-2003 04:50 AM:

speilberg has writen the story and is executive producer, so shud be good enough for all u boffins, i personaly dont like the films, but i 5 aint out so who knows i might like it

Posted by dc_man on 08-24-2003 09:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by XeroFightsAlone
*does raptor impression*

hah I picutred someone doing that and
literally laughed out loud, you silly bastard

Posted by Cory on 08-24-2003 04:34 PM:

I just hope it doesn't have a shitty plot like #3

"Wow lets go look at dinosaurs"

*CRASH*

"Lets go rescue our son, and not pay this man shite who is helping us"

THE END

A few little dinosaur scenes in the middle, otherwise it sucked.

Posted by corman on 08-27-2003 10:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by KayDawg
you must DIE for dissing jpII

Sorry, but I have to agree that the Lost World did, in fact, suck. Book was way better, but then, guess thats always the way it is.

Posted by labrat1 on 08-27-2003 06:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by XeroFightsAlone
*does raptor impression*

quote:
Originally posted by dc_man
hah I picutred someone doing that and
literally laughed out loud, you silly bastard

haa haa

DC MAN go down 1 post

and XeroFightsAlone can buy one to at
http://www.anniescostumes.com/lost.htm

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Posted by labrat1 on 08-27-2003 07:57 PM:

yep..

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Posted by corman on 08-27-2003 09:26 PM:

you wouldnt think there'd be a market for that....but you'd be wrong.

Posted by XeroFightsAlone on 08-28-2003 02:15 AM:

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Originally posted by labrat1
and XeroFightsAlone can buy one to at
http://www.anniescostumes.com/lost.htm

no thanks

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Posted by dc_man on 08-29-2003 07:59 PM:

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yep.. (Shows picture of raptor w/ dcman arrow)

lol

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 08-29-2003 08:09 PM:

JP series died after the first one, I hated the second one, It was terrible. One of the worst movies ever made. Never seen the third one cause it didn't look good. I know I won't see this one unless it gets great reviews.

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Posted by TReX_Vanquish on 08-29-2003 08:12 PM:

JP1- Gotta be the best hands down
JP2- Good but takin the trex of the island spoilt it, compared to the book the film is nothin.
JP3- Not good enough
JP4-? Betta be good

gav wrote:

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speilberg has writen the story

Isnt it that William Moham or whateva his last name is thats writing the script?

Posted by XeroFightsAlone on 08-30-2003 02:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
I know I won't see this one unless it gets great reviews.

eh, what do critics know.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 08-31-2003 06:26 AM:

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Originally posted by XeroFightsAlone
eh, what do critics know.

I don't just read one review dude, I read multiple reviews.

Say this

8 good reviews
8 bad reviews
2 mixed

The movie is probably Average to good.

say the movie gets

0 good
8 bad
2 mixed

the movie will probably suck, But there maybe hope for it

if the movie gets

0 good
12 bad
0 mixed

I won't waste my time at all

Cause if 12 people say the movie sucks, and no one says it's good why would I waste my time on garbage?

Yes there are always exeptions to the rule. for example Tomb Raider...Yes I am a fanboy. So i have bias opinion on it. So Yeah i'm gonna check it out.

You see what I mean?

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Posted by platinum_bomb on 09-01-2003 01:38 PM:

If JP4 goes underwater, it will officially be worse then 3. That is just not a good idea when weighed against the possible carnage that could partake by unleashing a dozen raging raptors in NYC or maybe even in the suburbs. There doesnt really have to be a killer plot that way cuz who wants to see a movie for the story.. ha.

Posted by platinum_bomb on 09-01-2003 01:40 PM:

lol.. didnt mean to post again.. sorry

Posted by SPS on 09-01-2003 08:33 PM:

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Originally posted by platinum_bomb
If JP4 goes underwater, it will officially be worse then 3. That is just not a good idea when weighed against the possible carnage that could partake by unleashing a dozen raging raptors in NYC or maybe even in the suburbs. There doesnt really have to be a killer plot that way cuz who wants to see a movie for the story.. ha.

true.. I really hope they will come up with a GREAT story... when u goes "Wow... didnt thought of that :P" in the end, hehe... A great story with a great and. And with alot of familiar faces like Hammond and some fellows from Jurassic Park 1... Not a run-and-die movie plz

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Posted by SPS on 09-22-2003 01:34 PM:

Jeff Goldblum and Sam Neil will return Status 99% confirmed
Wuhu!!

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Posted by Sal Paradise on 09-23-2003 05:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by platinum_bomb
If JP4 goes underwater, it will officially be worse then 3. That is just not a good idea when weighed against the possible carnage that could partake by unleashing a dozen raging raptors in NYC or maybe even in the suburbs. There doesnt really have to be a killer plot that way cuz who wants to see a movie for the story.. ha.

Um... You saw Godzilla, right?

Posted by XeroFightsAlone on 09-24-2003 01:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Sal Paradise
Um... You saw Godzilla, right?

godzilla (us version) was fucking lame. why would one egg survive? if only they let terrorists bomb MSG. all the eggs would have been gone.

Posted by KayDawg on 09-24-2003 01:44 AM:

I still don't get why people think bringing a dinosaur to the city in part 2 was a bad idea.

It's the same general idea as King Kong...and that was a great story

The only reason I could see any complaint is that it's predictable...but I don't know about you but I think jp1 made it obvious that the dino's would rule

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