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-- The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King *NUKED* *PROPER* *READNFO* *SVCD* - TELESYNC - MPT (http://www.vcdhq.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=32200)


Posted by firefighter on 12-21-2003 06:41 PM:

-Judging by Sample-

The Picture of this movie, the colors were faded , looks cropped but the picutre *widescreen* is nice and clear. The Sound , ermm it sounds like the speakers were about 10 feet away from the CAM . Has a loud echo to the sound. Overall in my opinion - I'll Stick with loGisTic.

6/6/10

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Posted by scamtan on 12-21-2003 06:52 PM:

possible nuke due to bad sound

picture is better however sound is bad still

8/6/10

will stick to logistic 2 i think


Posted by pezley on 12-21-2003 06:54 PM:

Altho its a nice screen size and all that, id still stick with logistics.

colorless (only slightly ) but very dark flicker at points. audio is great if its a cam, but for a ts, sounds very distant, but quite clear.

anyways , actually a very nice pic very clear just a bit dark , cam didnt pick the colors up well enough ... but overall not bad, cropping isnt that bad either.

if sound was better, the release would be quite good


Posted by Cytrax on 12-21-2003 07:00 PM:

Checked the sample and would have been nice if they had made the aspect a little larger nevermind tho, audio is a bit echo echo echoie but never the less some great work by MPT as they have been providing some great work lately


Posted by rappa on 12-21-2003 07:16 PM:

wow they propered a real ts with a shitty cam..rofl...the pic is faded and the sound is horrible...and btw, i watched all of logistics and idk where they got 8 minutes was missing cause it was all there

5/1/20

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Posted by Jdigital03 on 12-21-2003 07:20 PM:

from sample 7/6/10

not bad but i dont think its much better than logistic's so ill stick with that one till something else comes along!

lotr \m/


Posted by firefighter on 12-21-2003 07:22 PM:

I noticed on CD2 a quick Scene Change (probably changing tapes) on loGisTic's copy right when They left to enter the tunnel. I wouldnt say 8 minutes is missing though, and Still much better then -MPT's copy .... but ya i seen this nuked a few places now with reasons "not.proper.enough.to.be.a.proper" or "proper.not.needed". Guess the nfo didnt help.

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Posted by lkzsky on 12-21-2003 07:30 PM:

hi

i just noticed logistic release is 2520 kbps and there are 4 CDs
same with MPT
and MPT has 2000 kbps and they still fit 4 CDs

there might be more than 8 mins missing scenes if we think it logically


Posted by crackerjax on 12-21-2003 07:30 PM:

Nice Try MPT, very nice Camera work, needs a bit more on the sound to be a true "proper." ... like almost everyone else that commented on this forum on this release ... I'll be sticking with logistic's release ... prolly until the dvdscr.

keep 'em coming MPT, practice makes perfect


Posted by scamtan on 12-21-2003 07:42 PM:

NUKED


Reason : Cam Audio


Posted by xboxfanz on 12-21-2003 07:42 PM:

this 8 minutes missing....is it important to the story of the movie???


Posted by Movieguy on 12-21-2003 07:51 PM:

Logistics is as follows According To My Apex

Cd1 = 49 mins 4 secs
Cd2 = 49 mins 34 secs
Cd3 = 49 mins 4 secs
Cd4 = 44 mins 10 secs

For A Total Of 191 Mins 52 Secs

Nfo and Imdb Both State This Movie To Be 201 Mins So Looks Like Logistics Rls Is Missing 9 Mins 8 Secs

I Will Stick With Logistics Rls (Allthough 9 Mins Missing Is Alot)


This one has not to great sound and picture isnt better then Logistics

6/6/?


Posted by Voc on 12-21-2003 08:03 PM:

from sample i would stick with logistics
quick Q but why cant these groups list the missing scenes would make life alot easier for us rather than just say "XX mins missing"


Posted by Vaelek on 12-21-2003 08:11 PM:

Angry There will be NO DVD Screener of ROTK

Hey guys. To all of you that are waiting around for a dvd screener don't hold your breath. There isn't going to be one this time around, if you want proof check out http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies...-dvd-side_x.htm it's gonna be vhs only on this one.


Posted by egoiste on 12-21-2003 08:12 PM:

MPEG2, PlayingTime=60.133s, Bitrate=0bps, PtsOffset=0726s, 8073 packets

Video Stream: Motion Video, 480x480, 29.97003fps (NTSC), 2520kbps
Audio Stream: Audio Standard MPEG layer2 Stereo, 44100Hz, 224kbps

this is loGisTic's sample info
if sample and rlz is the same
caculate the 4CD's capicity logistic's rlz less than 180min
or their bitrate less than 2000K


Posted by TwoPoundGiro on 12-21-2003 08:17 PM:

Does the 201min runtime include end credits.


Posted by Jurai on 12-21-2003 08:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Voc
from sample i would stick with logistics
quick Q but why cant these groups list the missing scenes would make life alot easier for us rather than just say "XX mins missing"



quick Q but why cant you be grateful instead of bitching


Posted by EmPreSS on 12-21-2003 08:51 PM:

Yeah it's missing the end credits probably. IMDB lists the COMPLETE run time so if logistic's doesn't have the end credits then you can conclude they still have "the movie".

Personally, I'm not gonna take a ts of this film. But, I wanted to comment on the missing minutes.

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Posted by bob0r on 12-21-2003 08:53 PM:

Logistic was missing NO video at all, or MPT has an OTHER version, but i seen no missing scenes

0/0/6
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Posted by Superxero on 12-21-2003 09:03 PM:

im pretty sure the 8mins are the credits because on the last two movies the credits were 9mins

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Posted by krem_de_la_krem on 12-21-2003 09:12 PM:

From the reviews on this thread i must disagree with most of y'all, i can honestly say as far as the video is concerned, its prob the sexiest cam video ive ever seen and s 100% better than the logis video. I d o agree with AR and colour issues but regardless i still think it ranks top spot however the sound is terrible and very hollow. If only they had the boom mic like past CTP releases. I can see a few more propers coming but based upon CD1 ratings avail as follows:-

Video - 8.3

Sound = 6.5

Movie = 10.0

pe4ce 0ut


Posted by Leigh^ on 12-21-2003 09:25 PM:

With this release, along with the others, it only goes to prove that MPT have to thank a certain friend of HcC's. a Mr Jimmy Tong from the local vcd market in little chinatown!
The audio and video quality of their releases have been dramatically different between them.
So boo.
Shit audio, average pic.
Stick with the loGisTic release.

/lgh


Posted by AddNtoX on 12-21-2003 10:00 PM:

ftf or logistic rls is better sorry MPT i say that cuz they both came from same source....by that i mean the same silver. 8 mins wasnt missing, it was a little scene that was missing, but oh well pic is ok sound is cam PLS NO MORE TELESYNCS of this


Posted by Nitr0 on 12-21-2003 10:54 PM:

Logistic sound is much better and the video is darker in MPT rls than in logistic.
I suggest to stick with loGisTic. However, MPT many times releases very good quality, but I guess not this time.


Posted by Atomic_007 on 12-21-2003 11:27 PM:

...

from sample

7/6/?

i will stick with logistic rip myself

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Posted by Heartagram on 12-21-2003 11:28 PM:

Not A Scene Missing...

Ummmm Logistic Has Not A Scene Missing, Nice Try MPT.


Posted by shorty6pac on 12-21-2003 11:36 PM:

Re: There will be NO DVD Screener of ROTK

quote:
Originally posted by Vaelek
Hey guys. To all of you that are waiting around for a dvd screener don't hold your breath. There isn't going to be one this time around, if you want proof check out http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies...-dvd-side_x.htm it's gonna be vhs only on this one.


well duh if you look at the date of that article its over 2 months old and not acurate at all since they have already changed their minds and there was a court decision that lifted the ban also, as for this release all i can say is im sticking with the logistic version


Posted by labrat1 on 12-21-2003 11:36 PM:

*sigh* i feel bad for the mods

any way best pic so far but cam audio
Im not gona mess with theses TS's
im just gona wait for a screnner
go see it at the movies

8/5/9

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Posted by cartoon master on 12-21-2003 11:58 PM:

LoGisTic has missing scene.
Its is part the at the path of the death people, at the hole is dialog is missing.
german release
the german groups are mixed the 8:16 min(missing) from eso with FTF.Is was a good deal.
(Its not 20mins only 8:16)
No version is better than Eso with the colors.
eso is not so dark like,FTF,LoGisTic,MPT
hope you understand my engl.

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Posted by Anonymoose on 12-22-2003 12:45 AM:

Cartoon is right. Logistic's is missing a scene before Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli go into the cave. Its pretty obvious even if you havent seen the whole thing.

As for this release,
7/5/9

I still prefer Logistics.


Posted by Mr_Grinch on 12-22-2003 12:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by krem_de_la_krem
If only they had the boom mic like past CTP releases. I can see a few more propers coming but based upon CD1 ratings avail as follows:-


Erm... you do realise that Centropy didn't hold the boom mic in front of the camera and it could only be seen because the film was unmatted...right?

Anyway, this release is pretty good. Sound not as good as Logistic, video... debatable, better in some scenes, worse in others. Bit too dark for my liking but pretty sharp.

I think I can live without the 8minutes whatever, it's not too much of a chunk of a 3 and a half hour film.


Posted by DJSoundIT on 12-22-2003 01:57 AM:

by the sample..

I will give this release 8/6/10. the picture was very good, and although the sound was a bit hollow i'd go for this release. You can watch the samples and stop in the same scene, then compair..you will found out that MPT takes it

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Posted by chocco on 12-22-2003 02:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by krem_de_la_krem
From the reviews on this thread i must disagree with most of y'all, i can honestly say as far as the video is concerned, its prob the sexiest cam video ive ever seen and s 100% better than the logis video. I d o agree with AR and colour issues but regardless i still think it ranks top spot however the sound is terrible and very hollow. If only they had the boom mic like past CTP releases. I can see a few more propers coming but based upon CD1 ratings avail as follows:-

Video - 8.3

Sound = 6.5

Movie = 10.0

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:rofl: ... boom mic.. ahahaha

That made my day...


Posted by brr8760 on 12-22-2003 06:12 AM:

Actually, krem-de-la-krem was RIGHT about the picture quality of this release being BETTER than logistics. Frankly, the colors here are rich & vibrant, as opposed to the dull, blueish tint of Log's. Sound is echo-y but not bad. I kept thinking I was hearing audience murmur in the bg.

But, damn, those colors are sweet. Good job, MPT.

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Posted by Jackal_Guardian on 12-22-2003 06:39 AM:

To Nukers : It is all depend on how you guys judge and which one to choose

Whats that mean :P


hahaha got to give them credit for fixing the missing dialog. The sound sounds the same through both releases. And the picture quality well its nice but nothing your PowerDVD couldn't fix by its self.

Though I had to get this release because 8 mins of missing dialog is alot even though I went to the theaturs I like watching it over and over

Props for the nice Proper. Though im not going to fight between loGisTic's and MPT because there was room for a proper and they did it.


Posted by panic on 12-22-2003 08:41 AM:

Watch the full mov b4 posting about it missing scenes on Logistic's rel it was missing a part on cd2 i saw it it skips real fast and it is not a important part and Logistic rocks so grab that


Posted by The Golden Jew on 12-22-2003 10:15 AM:

Ok, so, it is only a bit better than Logistic, video wise. But still, the sound is quite awful. Almost gay. Understandable for a Telesynch though. Oh well, this movie screams for a DVD screener. Until then I am looking for other better CAM's. Good try MTP anyay.

Video - 7 [too flashy]
Sound - 6 [worse than Logistic]
Movie - 8 [better than TTT, not better than what it could have been]


Posted by Madmax on 12-22-2003 11:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cartoon master
LoGisTic has missing scene.
Its is part the at the path of the death people, at the hole is dialog is missing.
german release
the german groups are mixed the 8:16 min(missing) from eso with FTF.Is was a good deal.
(Its not 20mins only 8:16)
No version is better than Eso with the colors.
eso is not so dark like,FTF,LoGisTic,MPT
hope you understand my engl.


Eso's has the best picture quality by far, ftf,logistic darker, flicker, if eso's only had TS sound it would be the hero of everyone.......
And eso has missing scene near the end


Posted by fanakin on 12-22-2003 12:00 PM:

I have no doubt regarding these telesyncs...
MPT release is without doubt the best seen till now...
Resolution is ok, as the cinemascope dimensions, colours saturation is much better than logistic.
i think all of you should have a look to the sample, the jpg image is not so clear....
Audio is not a problem for me, i'm italian and expect to release of the film in cinemas on january.... lol

8/6,5/?


Posted by Reverenddave on 12-22-2003 12:03 PM:

The Logistic release is missing about 3 1/2 minutes of footage on CD-2 at about 34:08. It's right after Elrond gives Aragorn the sword and he rides off to find the army of the dead. There are two scenes during this 3 minute period. The first with Eowyn and her father where he asks her to return home and be happy. The second scene is with Legolas, Gimli and Aragorn riding to the doorway.

You can find these 3 1/2 minutes on the Esoteric VCD (Disc 2 from 12:40 to 16:08).

I didn't notice any other missing footage.


Posted by InSaNeOnE on 12-22-2003 12:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bob0r
Logistic was missing NO video at all, or MPT has an OTHER version, but i seen no missing scenes

0/0/6
0/0? banned group, NEXT
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Err it was.

Just before they enter "the Cavern of the dead" or whatever its called.

It was missing about 30 seconds and clicked back in pretty much about 3seconds after Aragon says "I dont fear death"


Posted by fanakin on 12-22-2003 12:45 PM:

I have no doubt regarding these telesyncs...
MPT release is the best seen till now...
Resolution is ok, as the cinemascope dimensions, colours saturation is much better than logistic.
i think all of you should have a look to the sample, the jpg image is not so clear....
Audio is not a problem for me, i'm italian and i'm waiting for the release of the film in cinemas on january.... lol

8/6,5/?


Posted by M112_04 on 12-22-2003 12:59 PM:

ARE PEOPLE MAD

First off nice pic for MPT..yet again another flop up on labeling this....its a CAM...please label CAM...people are talking and mumbling the whole 1st cd..I downloaded all four and I'm pissed off. Ok the pic is better so what. We want to discuss missing point..why does this version skip the beginning and opening intro and credits and goes straight to the lake scene..while people are mumbling. The sound is beyond hollow and only gets loud during the music. Its not watchable and very annoying. MPT it seems you guys are slipping up. You've releases 2 horrible copies of the 2 best movies. Last Samurai with that horrid picture. And return of the king with this shakey camera and annoying audio with crowd chatter. CAM PEOPLE CAM PEOPLE just like the two towers..back in the day..

video 8..great cam..just mislabeled and a little shakey sometimes.
audio..2...hollow and the crowd needs to stfu...not direct..
overall the movie is a 10+..just not this copy

Logistic still the best..so far...stick with it.


Posted by MasterVader on 12-22-2003 01:22 PM:

nice, but too dark I think


Posted by Comedy on 12-22-2003 01:47 PM:

rated this one on the basis it is called a 'PROPER'

5/4/10

propers should be better


Posted by creamhackered on 12-22-2003 02:04 PM:

I think i'll stick to the LoGisTic rls, nice try though MPT


Posted by Khameleon808 on 12-22-2003 03:35 PM:

another useless copy

Great , another copy of fucking lord of the rings we dont need, we have our watchable for right now , dont bother till you get a dvd source , please stop.


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