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Posted by Cable Boy on 07-21-2004 06:08 PM:

dont see why this is needed, the quality is very acceptable

the audio is crisp and clear

8/8


Posted by qbs on 07-21-2004 06:15 PM:

save me time on make the other tc a dvdr tho


Posted by lerkster on 07-21-2004 06:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cable Boy
dont see why this is needed, the quality is very acceptable



1 DVD-RW > 3CDs

Nice release from the sample and most of the VOBs; will edit if opinion changes after viewing.

8/9/10.4


Posted by pHo on 07-21-2004 06:42 PM:

the lack of 5.1/dts is a shame, but the fact its in 16x9 is welcome. will leave it a few days before grabbing, as xpd don't exactly have the best history on the "fucking things up" scale.

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Posted by tr1pp1n on 07-21-2004 06:42 PM:

wow this is much better than that alliance bullshit. good release. i hope you guys can keep up the tc's and get the scene back to how it used to be (tc quality wise) anyone remember jurrasic park 3 tc

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Posted by u moms on 07-21-2004 06:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tr1pp1n
wow this is much better than that alliance bullshit. good release. i hope you guys can keep up the tc's and get the scene back to how it used to be (tc quality wise) anyone remember jurrasic park 3 tc


Guess you never bothered to think where their source came from. Compair the 2. Then STFU


Posted by crob on 07-21-2004 07:19 PM:

Lack of 5.1 or even DTS pretty much kills it....


Posted by Redemption198 on 07-21-2004 07:29 PM:

Yeah the lack of 5.1 doesn't make it as appealing as it should be.

Best one yet though, but not worth another 4gb.

8/7/9


Posted by overdrive on 07-21-2004 10:24 PM:

i d/ld the tc svcd and made the dvdr from that, dont see y this is needed but good job anyways


Posted by akasmiler on 07-21-2004 11:17 PM:

i got this and once i had thought this looks familiar?? but is it???

looks like the 3cd rls?


Posted by emulator on 07-22-2004 01:26 AM:

powerdvd says 5.1 english..?

i got the xpd sample .VOB and in the INFO within PowerDVD it says 5.1? so does it have 5.1 or 2.0?
other please check on this and see what i mean
TIA


Posted by vip3r on 07-22-2004 04:30 AM:

Stick with the VideoCD 3 disc release/TELECINE (if you have them, if not grab this) - but otherwise i wouldn't waste the time and bandwith. As this release doesn't even have 5.1 and isn't the greatest.

8/8/9


Posted by Muzak on 07-22-2004 05:07 AM:

i havent burned this and watched yet, but powerdvd does say it has dolby 5.1

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Posted by Skynet on 07-22-2004 05:40 AM:

It IS 5.1 sound! How about you actually HAVE the release before you start talking shit. Not the greatest picture but passable. Good release overall.

Video: 7
Sound: 9
Movie: 9


Posted by bigd25x on 07-22-2004 07:38 AM:

does this have 5.1 or not ?

ive been waiting for you all to say theres something wrong with it b4 i donwload lol


Posted by kezm on 07-22-2004 07:59 AM:

YEP DEF 5.1

sony amp says so


Posted by spotfek on 07-22-2004 11:50 AM:

Fair enough if you have not downed the rel yet, but for those who already have it, why do you need to be told by your software dvd player/amp that it has 5.1??? why not try LISTENING to it, its not rocket science to hear if something is 5.1 or not.

Its the same deal when you get someone complaining - I have these 3 releases downloaded for the same movie, can someone tell me which is the best quality so I know which to keep, try LOOKING at it, surely it is better to have the one YOU think is best quality, not someone you dont know!!!!


Posted by Moloko_Plus on 07-22-2004 03:59 PM:

Is there a menu on this at least?


Posted by vcd fogie on 07-22-2004 04:11 PM:

judging from VOB sample

video - 8
compared to some of the recent telecines (harry potter 3, the day after tomorrow), this one has accurate colors and lighting, but is just *slightly* blurry, meaning the resolution of the objects could be a bit sharper. there is no motion blur, and no problems that i could see in the sample. definetely the best out so far. way better than the alliance rls.

audio - 10
5.1 ownage, sync'd perfectly

movie - 7
meh, i saw it in the theater... not as good as the first. but octo was awesome, theres a wet t-shirt scene with whats-her-slut, and the special effects are pretty stunning. i fucking hate that actor who plays Harry Osborn, he's totally bland / boring and going to ruin the 3rd one.

one very cool thing about the movie is you see a lot of Evil Dead influences (Sam Raimi directed Evil Dead 1, 2, 3 (aka: army of darkness). the evil dead series really setup raimi's style nowadays, and it definetely shows in this movie. seriously, watch evil dead 2 or 3 before watching this rip, you'll notice it too

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Posted by Redemption198 on 07-22-2004 08:30 PM:

Damn, never noticed the sound, though i only got the sample, and i usually use BSPlayer for Non DVD Stuff, and i dont have a 5.1 setup on my PC.

Has anyone listened to the whold thing on a proper 5.1 amp, is it a good mix, id maybe consider it if the sound was good.




Posted by pHo on 07-22-2004 09:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Skynet
It IS 5.1 sound! How about you actually HAVE the release before you start talking shit.


audio bitrate is 224kbit according to the nfo. 5.1 should be 384kbit.

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Posted by Moloko_Plus on 07-22-2004 09:30 PM:

Yes it has a menu, scene select and even a cute little XPD intro screen.

Audio: 10+ (Dolby Digital 5.1, whoever complained should get stuffed...According to this, its 384 Kbps which is good)
Video: 9 (Average of 4.5 Mbps, so says Powerdvd..Video is a bit blurry too, but still great for a dvdr.)
Movie: 10 (Loved it better than the first one)


Posted by ramp on 07-22-2004 11:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Moloko_Plus
Yes it has a menu, scene select and even a cute little XPD intro screen.


I'm getting sick of that XPD screen....


Posted by spotfek on 07-23-2004 12:19 AM:

Just watched the movie.. sorry folks but no way is that 5.1, the speech is coming out of all speakers, no positional sound effects, dont get me wrong it is nice quality sound but dont get excited its not dolby digital, even if it has been encoded as such.


Posted by JustMe on 07-23-2004 01:34 AM:

Not too bad a release, But coulda been better. About the same picture quality as Harry Potter 3. Audio is nice & clear & yes, it is stereo, but not full 5.1

If you've got no other release, then this is worth getting to save you having to encode it into dvd yourself.

Meneu is pretty plain, just a jpeg with Play Movie & Scene Selection on it & with background music from the movie itself.

7/7/9

Really enjoyable movie. Looked amazing at the theatre, so go see it there first people! It's definately worth it

JustMe


Posted by Moloko_Plus on 07-23-2004 02:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Moloko_Plus
Yes it has a menu, scene select and even a cute little XPD intro screen.

Audio: 10+ (Dolby Digital 5.1, whoever complained should get stuffed...According to this, its 384 Kbps which is good)
Video: 9 (Average of 4.5 Mbps, so says Powerdvd..Video is a bit blurry too, but still great for a dvdr.)
Movie: 10 (Loved it better than the first one)



Ohh boo. You can always remove it if you really want to. I do like the menu and chapter selection, you really gotta give em credit for doing us all this nice deed for free of charge and putting themselves at risk You and I both know the ones who own the license to this movie are NOT happy about this release and would love nothing more then to catch em.

The audio is dd 5.1, get over it. Thank you again XPD, see you in the next release.


Posted by Mistar Muffin on 07-23-2004 05:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by vip3r
Stick with the VideoCD 3 disc release/TELECINE (if you have them, if not grab this) - but otherwise i wouldn't waste the time and bandwith. As this release doesn't even have 5.1 and isn't the greatest.

8/8/9



Well, as I just got my hands on this release tonight I can verify that it has a 384kbps DD5.1 AC3 soundtrack. Everyone saying that it is 2channels obviously hasn't taken one look at the release but are rather going by the obvious typo in the nfo. XPD is primarily a SVCD group and left the wrong bitrate in their nfo (224kbps, standard for SVCD). Pic looks pretty good, much better than the VideoCD release (God, how I hate motion blur, that drove me nuts in their release). Overall I say this is the release to get if you have a DVD burner, as I'm a fan of having the whole movie on 1 disc, and the DD5.1 audio is a nice bonus ^_^.

8/9/9

Edit:

After getting home and watching the movie on my 5.1 setup, I must agree with the previous poster who mentioned that the voices come out of all the speakers. It IS a 384kbps DD5.1 track like I previously stated....alas....it appears as if XPD took a stereo source and duplicated the channels to make it 5.1 *tsk tsk*. Oh well.

Edit, again:

Out of pure curiosity, I downloaded Cartel's xvid encode of VideoCD's TS source, which supposed had a 5.1 AC3 track, and let me tell you, the difference is amazing. The AC3 on the xvid encode is worlds cripser and much more dynamic (none of that fluttering in the opening credits and no audio dropouts). If you want the best quality possible, you can do what I did, and thats combine the AC3's from the two Cartel cds and then remux them into the vobs from this release. It sounds absolutely wonderful. Please note that the VideoCD TS didn't begin til the Spider-Man 2 logo and this TC starts at the very beginning and has the Columbia Pictures logo and everything, meaning after you do the remux youre gonna have about 45 seconds of silence until the logo, where the Cartel audio will kick in. Good luck!

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Posted by vip3r on 07-23-2004 06:25 AM:

It's not my fault that they fucked their nfo up is it? No. And considering i have no interest in this release, i wasn't able to clarify/check to see if it actually was 5.1


Posted by Mistar Muffin on 07-23-2004 07:16 AM:

Yeah I know, I was just pointing out that the people that were declaring 2 channel sound were getting their info from......well the nfo. Not your fault, just being as clear as possible. ;-)

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Posted by bigd25x on 07-23-2004 10:31 AM:

just watched, this is really nice, reminds me of the tc of terminator 3 !


video - 9 "very nice"

sound 9 "little low in some spots, sounds like 5.1 to me !"

movie 10 "loved the first one loved this one"


Posted by Muzak on 07-23-2004 10:33 AM:

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums.../spideyrate.jpg

mayby this will shut everyone up about what it is and what it isnt. its obvious that some here didnt bother to even get the sample, yet they somehow feel they can pull an opinion out of the air and try to tell the people who DO have it, whats up with it.

some people...

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Posted by SplinterBone on 07-23-2004 11:09 AM:

I dont post often but i have to say i watched the release and there is DD 5.1 those of you rating off the nfo and flaming based on the nfo should pull your head out of your ass and stop mongering in the forums. XPD put out a quality release its excellent high quality and well worth the DL. This far from retail a release like this is a keeper in and out. Cheers to XPD


Posted by TheDiggler on 07-23-2004 07:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by spotfek
Just watched the movie.. sorry folks but no way is that 5.1, the speech is coming out of all speakers, no positional sound effects, dont get me wrong it is nice quality sound but dont get excited its not dolby digital, even if it has been encoded as such.


Playing it right now in my standalone/DTS/5.1 amp and could'nt agree more with the statement above.

Also, nice little audio dropout when Peter's Uncle talks to him in his dream. I am only skipping around using the menu and found that glitch, hope there are not more. Will watch it tonight all the way through.


Posted by Redemption198 on 07-23-2004 07:51 PM:

Im still not sure if i should get this or not, can anyone who has watched the whole release on a proper 5.1 setup and knows what to listen for, verify this is a proper 5.1 encode and not just stereo to 5.1 which is what any cheap amp can do.

I put the sample on a CDRW and it doesn't sound like it to me, i hear very little seperation between the speakers, more of an ambient sound.

Cheers


Posted by Adam17 on 07-24-2004 12:27 PM:

My download of this just finished downloading, and i burnt it to DVDR, slipped it in my DVD Player and was amazed of the qaulity, its brilliant, at first i was a little wary about it as the preview clip on my pc didnt look good qaulity, but i took into account that i generally find my movies to look much better on a proper tv and not my monitor. Anyway i was correct as it was awesome qaulity. Only thing is im not convinced that there is 5.1 in this, as i dont have a 5.1 system, but its just the fact that at the start of the movie, on the title screen, the audio does exactly the same thing as on the alliance release, it like freezes for a couple of seconds and then carries on as normal, it also does go a little stuttery in places, but appart from that its great.

10/7/10!!


Posted by Livelee on 07-24-2004 03:38 PM:

Hi there. Long term reader 1st time poster.

I've got the release and burnt it with nero from the image. It appears to work perfectly but wont play beyond chapter 7 on the various dvd players that i've tried it on. I dont usually have any problems with burning/watching releases.

I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions as to why this might be happening and what could be done to reslove it.

Many Thanks


Posted by Redemption198 on 07-24-2004 05:29 PM:

Still nobody can comment on this as havig proper 5.1 sound.

Guess i'll just have to get it then to find out, i want to anyway now, saw this at the cinema last night, amazing film, and i hope this does have good 5.1 as the sound in the cinema was awesome, great panning and brilliant use of the Sub channel.

quote:
I've got the release and burnt it with nero from the image. It appears to work perfectly but wont play beyond chapter 7 on the various dvd players that i've tried it on. I dont usually have any problems with burning/watching releases.


You could try DVD Decrypter to burn the image as Nero isnt exactly perfect at doing it.

http://www.dvddecrypter.com/


Posted by Livelee on 07-24-2004 07:29 PM:

7 coasters in...i'm gonna throw in the towel :-D

Tried dvd dcrypter etc, extracted the files using iso buster and chapter 7 onwards just dont work, not even through the pc :-(.

I wish I only had to worry about 5.1 or not hehehe.


Posted by Adam17 on 07-24-2004 08:34 PM:

Me and my mate just watched this film on a proper audio system, but it isnt a DTS 5.1, its just dolby pro logic or Dolby Surround system. It was playing in a high pitched background sound all the way through almost, it got a little annoying, but nethermind, brilliant qaulity overall though, just the sound is a little dissapointing in my opinion, but not the worst


Posted by spotfek on 07-24-2004 10:07 PM:

I stated way back that there is no way this is 5.1 and that statement still stands, for anyone who is still wondering, yes I have watched the whole thing all the way through on a standalone dvd player hooked up to dolby digital decoder. yes the little light comes on saying it is dolby, yes it says 5.1 384k when u watch it on a software dvd player but NO it is not 5.1 in any form whatsoever.


Posted by Adam17 on 07-25-2004 01:41 AM:

Does anybody else get the hiss in the background then what i get?

And the little 2 second freeze-repeat sound about 20 seconds in on the title credits?


Posted by eastpointvet on 07-25-2004 05:27 AM:

overall good and i didnt notice an audio hiss.

8/7/9


Posted by TheDiggler on 07-25-2004 06:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Livelee
7 coasters in...i'm gonna throw in the towel :-D

Tried dvd dcrypter etc, extracted the files using iso buster and chapter 7 onwards just dont work, not even through the pc :-(.

I wish I only had to worry about 5.1 or not hehehe.



I have burned and tested it with 3 players and all of them played it fine. Is the problem right at the chapter break or while playing 7?

Don't know if this will work but you might be able to have DVDShrink reprocess (no compression of course) and see if it fixes your problem. Don't think Get VTS Sectors in IFOEdit will correct it but that MAY be another option. Oh, and use DVD-RW to test if your not. I am naturally assuming that your not and that is why you have 7 bad discs.

Good luck....


Posted by bilal on 07-25-2004 11:07 PM:

sample was quite nice (tested it on my xbox using xbmc) shame there's no 5.1 in the sample to see what that sounds like but i'm getting it nonetheless...

how do ppl get 5.1 on there in the first place? do they just mix it themselves or, say, get it to send the front l/r output to the rear too? just a thought from a n00b or whatever i'm called these days...


Posted by bilal on 07-27-2004 01:45 PM:

just received the proper dvd rls. seems rather nice !

i don't have the problem with chapter 7 - been watching it on powerdvd skipping to and fro to the good bits. just gonna test it on the dvd player with the dd5.1 but i'm starting to agree with what ppl are saying about them mixing the tracks together to get the 5.1


Posted by hassali on 08-02-2004 01:17 PM:

hi, i got this release a while ago and have to say, the video is very good, although does seem a little blurry. The audio is good but as Mistar Muffin has said, is nothing as good as the Xvid Cartel copy, which has true 5.1 surround sound.

Out of curiosity Mistar Muffin, how did you sync and multiplex the audio with the dvdr video, i've been trying but running into quite a few problems.

Thanks for any help


Posted by XoXo on 08-08-2004 10:21 AM:

8/8/9 Good Usuall TELECINE


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