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Posted by vip3r on 08-23-2004 07:52 AM:

Video is ok - kinda shitty though, the audio is nice.

Nuked: gay.sidebars.overcropped.missing.heads

And yes .. it's definately overcropped, and the fkking sidebars are annoying as hell!

6.5/8.5/9

::edit:: Well in VideoLAN it had sidebars, but others told me while viewing it in PowerDVD it did not. Either way, the heads are cut off like hell in some parts of the sample, and the video is crappy for a TC. So i'll pass on this one.

Posted by CrashRoX on 08-23-2004 08:19 AM:

Audio is really nice, video is decent. I didnt really hear anything good about the actual movie... NUKED, still watchable if your desperate... If you waited this long.. hold out for another.

6/8.5/?

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Posted by dark101 on 08-23-2004 08:19 AM:

If this is a TC im going blind.

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Posted by lorddusty on 08-23-2004 08:24 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by vip3r

And yes .. it's definately overcropped, and the fkking sidebars are annoying as hell!

6.5/8.5/9

nuked on only a few sites i see *cough*sheep nuking?*.. ps the sidebars go away when you watch on tv... and wtf is a missing head?
/edit nm think i see what you mean, kinda cropped on the top.. stil a decent TC though

Posted by Ibegoat on 08-23-2004 08:46 AM:

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RELEASE NOTES: Another nice telecine from your friends in TUN. =)

I think by nice they mean NUKED! lol.... and TUN thinks they deserve respect. This should have been released *INTERNAL* if at all. Video is washed out, pixelated not to mention cropped like a bitch! Audio seems damn crisp though. Keep up the work, just try and make it better. As for the movie not a bad flick, not as good as gladiator or braveheart, but not bad either

5/8/7

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Posted by HELLiON on 08-23-2004 09:01 AM:

5/7/6

wish TUN would get some good encoders since they obviously have an ok source just rips kinda suck

Posted by MoegHoeg on 08-23-2004 11:04 AM:

Am I the only one who watch my movies on a TV? The black bars on the sides will not be visible on a TV since they disapear in the overscan. Also colors tend to look more "right" on a TV. Why not just quit bashing the poor guys in TUN? I'm glad someone takes their time to release these movies, saves me ticket money :P

Posted by commiewhore on 08-23-2004 11:46 AM:

video = 7

audio = 7

movie = 5

movie was ok, nothing too special. pissed me off, thought it was going to be good, not so rushed. sample for this is misleading, video isnt that bad, if they cut off the sidebars, would be smarter, the cropped isnt that bad on top and bottom , bout the same as the LOTR ROTK telecine Chakra did, just no russian. all and all not bad, but this doesnt have same dts audio as CTP Rls, at least their rip doesnt have the same quality sound i expected it to have. other than that, pretty decent.

Posted by tr1pp1n on 08-23-2004 12:26 PM:

maybe the rumours are true, any how this is definitly a reincoded source...

quote:
Originally posted by diekund
do you have a clue? the last TUN rls u said the same thing, and you were wrong. dont post if you dont have anything to say about the quality. theres no need to slam a rls group. even if they do mess up, there still doing more than 99% of us.

video is cropped, not enough to complain about. its washed. dark and grainy. i dont think it is a TC, def not worth a 3cd dl. the ts wasnt good, and neither is this.

audio: theres a hiss, its def not DTS

movie: i dont want to see this :|

6.5/6.5/?

i dont see how i am wrong here, these people are buying silvers on the streets, and shitty pdvds and saying they are telecines fuck you, my personal belief is this is a fuckoff group much like UGG in the mp3 scene, so shut the fuck up if u have no basis to flame me besides the fact that you like TUN. You can tell me im wrong once this group stops getting nuked, and site banned... k thx

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Posted by yyiryyib on 08-23-2004 01:15 PM:

lol, the video is ok but its anything but a re-encode, its a tc alright, looking at the colour, the screen size and quality.

the cropping im not a fan of, i dont see why they crop things, i dont get why xvid groups do as well, i can remmeber my killbill dvd rip (the diamond one) where at the end u cant see where o ren ishi's skull has been removed at the top, its doesnt make any sense to me

Posted by commiewhore on 08-23-2004 01:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tr1pp1n
maybe the rumours are true, any how this is definitly a reincoded source...

if the source was re-encoded from CTP's source, then we would see french subs when the pagans speak in multiple scenes in cd1, or you would see it cropped high enough to cover those subs, which it isnt, and replaced with hardcoded english subs.

check source though before making rumor claims and preaching them...if this was a re-encode of that source then its damn good hiding. heh. but interested in seeing what source it could be from other than pdvd.

or comment and score the movie pls.

7/7/5 ...just like my previous score , broke forrum rule for comments but wanted to see someone prove their remarks rather than spread more rumors.

Posted by Froggi on 08-23-2004 02:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by commiewhore
if the source was re-encoded from CTP's source, then we would see french subs when the pagans speak in multiple scenes in cd1, or you would see it cropped high enough to cover those subs, which it isnt, and replaced with hardcoded english subs.

check source though before making rumor claims and preaching them...if this was a re-encode of that source then its damn good hiding. heh. but interested in seeing what source it could be from other than pdvd.

or comment and score the movie pls.

7/7/5 ...just like my previous score , broke forrum rule for comments but wanted to see someone prove their remarks rather than spread more rumors.

Maybe a reencode from the rus. avi's?

Posted by loxs on 08-23-2004 02:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by commiewhore
if the source was re-encoded from CTP's source, then we would see french subs when the pagans speak in multiple scenes in cd1, or you would see it cropped high enough to cover those subs, which it isnt, and replaced with hardcoded english subs.

check source though before making rumor claims and preaching them...if this was a re-encode of that source then its damn good hiding. heh. but interested in seeing what source it could be from other than pdvd.

or comment and score the movie pls.

7/7/5 ...just like my previous score , broke forrum rule for comments but wanted to see someone prove their remarks rather than spread more rumors.

Where in gods name did he say it was a reincode of CTP's he just said a reincode eg. they picked up a copy of it on the streets and "reincoded" it . scene rls's arent the only versions of movies going round you know look at the wider picture

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Posted by manofice on 08-23-2004 02:17 PM:

NUKED-REASON-gay.sidebars.overcropped.missing.heads.surprise.a.tun.nuke

Posted by Bazacko on 08-23-2004 02:56 PM:

yeah, the cropping is pretty yucky on this one.
6/7

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Posted by Debo on 08-23-2004 03:09 PM:

shitty and i still havent seent he movie
6/7

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Posted by Miller on 08-23-2004 04:02 PM:

over cropped and such. video is not bad but its cropped to death. audio is not bad as well. but still i have ctp version and i'll stick with that untill a dvdr . movie sucked

5/8/6

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Posted by diekund on 08-23-2004 04:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tr1pp1n
maybe the rumours are true, any how this is definitly a reincoded source...

do you have a clue? the last TUN rls u said the same thing, and you were wrong. dont post if you dont have anything to say about the quality. theres no need to slam a rls group. even if they do mess up, there still doing more than 99% of us.

video is cropped, not enough to complain about. its washed. dark and grainy. i dont think it is a TC, def not worth a 3cd dl. the ts wasnt good, and neither is this.

audio: theres a hiss, its def not DTS

movie: i dont want to see this :|

6.5/6.5/?

Posted by paleh0rse on 08-23-2004 06:53 PM:

bottom line: is this better than CTP's TS, yes or no?

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Posted by mooseman2070 on 08-23-2004 07:29 PM:

6/8/8

sidebars are annoying as fuck, good sound, movie was great

if you got the ctp ts, id keep it

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Posted by psyche on 08-23-2004 07:50 PM:

telecines aren't supposed to be cropped boo TUN, it's like hit and miss with you guys... about 1 of every 10 TUN releases would be done properly. 3/7/5

Posted by MoNoXiDe on 08-23-2004 07:50 PM:

not Impressed

6/7/x

Ok release... Ive Seen Better but also Ive Seen Worse...

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Posted by shezareeni on 08-23-2004 08:46 PM:

wow im amazed TUN done it again. Ive had a russian version which i add is exactly the same as this for about 2 weeks now in avi format just like their I robot release. These are not real telecines.

Just wish they would stop lying in their nfos and stuff and actually try to release stuff which is worth while.

pic is pixelated,has annoying sidebars and audio is subpar imo.

5/6

Posted by AvaLoN on 08-23-2004 09:15 PM:

You guys are just complete wacked in your brains! This is by fare better than ANY release of this movie.. Cropped? i dont think so.. we will see when the dvdr of it comes out! *Jerks* as for sidebars I DONT WATCH MOVIES ON MY COMPUTER!! These movies are MADE for TVS!! no fucking PC MONITOR, hileriuos that people here can be so lame..lol hiss on audio? its DTS you little motherfucker!

8/9/8

Posted by BLUE-NEO on 08-23-2004 09:38 PM:

from what I saw of this, its very nice pic and the audio is lovely. the video is not as bad as everyone is making it, also the cropping issues are barely noticeable unless your just the usual TUN basher and want to find something wrong with their releases. the sidebars still remain on there telecines for some odd reason. but on the actual television they aren't viewable. And I have a 65" widescreen and it looks fine.

Good but Not Great!

Keep it up Tun, at least your putting out releases out and its free, so no complaints.

8/9/5 Disappointing film. I like the Knights of the Round Table but this was just a disgrace of a film.

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Posted by venompowers on 08-23-2004 11:50 PM:

Personally i think the Sample looked great, it doesnt looked overcropped to me besides it looks like the best copy out now

Video 8.0

Sound 8.5

Movie -.- (Havent Seen Yet)

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Posted by bruj3w on 08-24-2004 03:55 AM:

really bad video for a tc from sample, tun seemed to have put out some good stuff latley too. sound is good, but only as good as a decent ts.

cant be arsed with the film. i heard there's no merlin

6/8/?

Posted by Oglethorpe on 08-24-2004 08:52 AM:

*sample judge*
4/7/5

bad video for a telecine, but good audio.

isn't this movie due out on DVD any minute? Wait for the rips.

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Posted by psyche on 08-24-2004 10:06 AM:

those defending the cropping issue sure don't know how a telecine is suppose to be then... that's like being ok with a cropped dvdrip, just cause some of the quality is there don't mean it's suppose to be butchered.

Posted by Mr_Grinch on 08-24-2004 10:29 AM:

Nice release, overcropped a bit but so was the last telesync of this. Audio is great, no complaints there and besides a bit of pixelation on pc monitor (looked fine, not sharp but fine on TV) perfectly watchable.

About the same as the Troy release. Not worth nuking in my opinion.

Posted by Ace25 on 08-24-2004 05:38 PM:

Never watched a movie on my PC since I have a nice 320Gig Xbox and 65" TV for watching Movies. All I had to do was select the "Zoom" setting in XBMC to remove the side bars. The movie looks 10x better than the CTP release AND has english subtitles. I watched both versions by flipping between the 2 and the TUN one is by far superior in every way.

My comparisons
CTP - 6/7/8
TUN - 8/9/8

I actually liked the movie, it takes place BEFORE Arthur is King.. I am so sick of everyone comparing it to all the other KA type movies where he is already king.. this is the story before all those.

Posted by desertboy on 08-24-2004 06:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Grinch
Nice release, overcropped a bit but so was the last telesync of this. Audio is great, no complaints there and besides a bit of pixelation on pc monitor (looked fine, not sharp but fine on TV) perfectly watchable.

About the same as the Troy release. Not worth nuking in my opinion.

This is not that bad, I would be very surprised if this wasn't a TC, haven't watched it yet only the sample but it definitely seems like a TC ripped probably from a 2nd gen VHS (Maybe a re encode as well).

7/8/?

I don't think TUN are that bad, they are certainly not another Ateam. There's too many sheep nukers (Hasn't there always been) these days. This is the best copy floating around at the mo and it's very watchable. The CTP copy was really quite bad but being CTP no one complained.

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Posted by yyiryyib on 08-24-2004 09:15 PM:

i have to agree i got the 3cd ctp release and this bashes it out of the water, just for the simple u can understand the subs, i can speak french (to a degree of course im not fluent) but in any movie when things have french subs i find it hard to follow whats going on. im suprised groups dont just add thier own subs and black the others out with a box or something.

still better than a Ts but not a great Tc

Posted by mafioso on 08-24-2004 09:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ibegoat
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I think by nice they mean NUKED! lol.... and TUN thinks they deserve respect.

5/8/7 [/B]

Respect to anyone who brings us the movies for free. If you don't like it, pay to see it.

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Posted by Miller on 08-24-2004 10:37 PM:

blaaa i can't even download the full rls. seems to be nuked on all my sites. so well i seen the sample and i guess i will never see the full rls. omg that cropping is gay. nice try TuN but better luck next time

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Posted by shezareeni on 08-25-2004 12:25 AM:

:: Rant Rant Rant, But not here!! -D

Posted by Redemption1980 on 08-25-2004 12:21 PM:

Just got this, and i like it, everything is clear and watchable.
Can anyone who saw this at the theatres confirm that the cropping isnt supposed to be there, because ive saw plenty of films that have been filmed that way.

the T2 DVD has similar cropping and the extras shows you the differences between FS and WS and how sometomes it has to be cropped.

As for the complaints about the sidebars, that just shows how many kids are on here who use they're PC for everything, dont know how anyone can watch a Movie on a Monitor, no matter how good it is.

8/8/7

Posted by zangano on 08-26-2004 01:26 AM:

7/7
is this the same TUN in the news :P
about some raided houses?

Posted by Lab on 08-26-2004 01:58 AM:

RIP: TUN

http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3399831

Posted by AvaLoN on 08-26-2004 03:10 AM:

http://www.udgnet.com/

That`s the BUSTED *Cough* "Underground Network" *Cough*

NOT TUN

Posted by Lab on 08-26-2004 07:35 AM:

lol, my bad

Posted by bcool2k on 08-28-2004 03:42 PM:

NUKED:for.Crap.Quality..And cut off heads and shit..Uggh..and i was so looking forward to what was being said in the subtitles..Someone plz proper this one..Nice try TUN, but NO thanx

Posted by Redemption1980 on 08-28-2004 10:27 PM:

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NUKED:for.Crap.Quality..And cut off heads and shit..Uggh..and i was so looking forward to what was being said in the subtitles..Someone plz proper this one..Nice try TUN, but NO thanx

Nothing wrong with the quality on this, as for the cut off heads, not convinced it wasn't filmed like that till i see the DVD.
There is subtitles in this release.

Also noticed the bitrate stays at 2.45mbps on this, and this film is only around 2 hours same as I Robot.

Tun are encoding these as CBR to save time for them, rather than a VBR 3-4 pass and put it on 2 CD's.

Posted by AcornArmy on 08-31-2004 09:53 PM:

Maybe it's the difference between watching this on the computer and watching it on a television, but on my TV I couldn't see any real problems with this encode at all. The subtitles were fine, video quality was fine, and sound was fine. There were times when the scene looked a bit washed-out, but since most of the movie didn't have that problem, I'm inclined to chalk that up to the dreary British atmosphere. I would've prefered it to fit on only 2 cds, but I'm not especially bitter about losing the 20 cents for that third disc.

Anyway, I thought it was fine, and I even liked the movie. I doubt that any other version of Guinevere after this will ever seem as cool as Kiera Knightley's, in my mind.

Posted by smythe on 09-02-2004 03:45 PM:

was like viewing it through my letter box

was about 4 inch on my widescreen

quality of what is there is good 7/8/?

Posted by wolfy3 on 09-06-2004 09:26 AM:

King Arthur no sound?

Hey guys, i just got this "King Arthur Telecine DivX HIGH QUALITY" and i have no sound. Nothing at all and there seems to be no audio stream according to virtual dub. Whats going on here. Tried a few players but if virtual dub says theres no audio then thats real strange.

Any suggestions?

Posted by overlord---57 on 09-29-2004 01:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shezareeni
wow im amazed TUN done it again. Ive had a russian version which i add is exactly the same as this for about 2 weeks now in avi format just like their I robot release. These are not real telecines.

Just wish they would stop lying in their nfos and stuff and actually try to release stuff which is worth while.

pic is pixelated,has annoying sidebars and audio is subpar imo.

5/6

I can correct you and tell you this IS telecines. but i can also tell you that TUN encoders aren't that experienced yet. give them time!. if you notice the group METEOR which releases all the telecines on dvdr right after you can get a confirm that its tc so knock of the whining or start releasing yourself

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