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Posted by VeRuS on 08-08-2006 04:17 PM:

Based upon sample:

V: 7 (Thought it was good it was a dark scene so daylight scenes should be 8)
A: 7
M: ?


Posted by Striped on 08-08-2006 04:18 PM:

Looks ok i'm gonna watch this

runs for 119mins approx so hope its all there.

7 overcropped at the bottom but looks decent
7 not much bass but clear enough to hear
?


Posted by flameUK on 08-08-2006 05:43 PM:

Yup, just finished watching this.

V: 8 (dark scenes are pretty dark)
A: 7 (its good, but doesnt sound too great in 5.1 surround)
M: 8 (I like this kind of movie, plenty of action.)

Over all, this is by far the best release to date, keep up the brilliant work pukka!


Posted by turk182 on 08-08-2006 06:02 PM:

just finished watchin it, very good but there were some parts that were hard to hear, not sure if it was ment to be like that or the audio, also there was a scene towards the end where it looks like 3-5 seconds is missing but i couldnt see any jumps in frames so again may just be the movie.

Overall this movie is very watchable

A: 8
V: 8
M: 9

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Posted by percman on 08-08-2006 06:03 PM:

nice release, sound a bit tinny but all in all a good effort
v:7
a:6.5
m:6


Posted by 1892spinthemix1892 on 08-08-2006 06:04 PM:

based on good skip thru
v-7 cropped , weak colours , lot of film is dark scenes
a-5 hollow tinny weak audio and is from different sources(changes 22.12 - 22.51 not sure if it does it more during movie)
m-? prob gonna wait for better(if comes)before i watch
decent effort..but not enough for me
update - sound is bad on some standalones , even missing for near all of film . why r they doin this rear speaker thing??

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Posted by Brian.Sandro on 08-08-2006 06:22 PM:

quote:
just finished watchin it, very good but there were some parts that were hard to hear, not sure if it was ment to be like that or the audio, also there was a scene towards the end where it looks like 3-5 seconds is missing but i couldnt see any jumps in frames so again may just be the movie.

Overall this movie is very watchable

A: 8
V: 8
M: 9


This was the same in the cinema, during the powerboat scenes etc..


Posted by pantherz on 08-08-2006 06:27 PM:

miami vice

v7
a6
movie?

olnly goin with the sample looks ok


Posted by asudd on 08-08-2006 06:40 PM:

From watching the first 20 minutes. There is a minor cropping problem, colors are somewhat washed and there is a very slight pixilation concern. Sound is a bit tinny.

Overall watchable. Will be comparing to the SEPTIC version soon.

V 7.5

A 6

M ? We'll see.


Posted by strange-u-say that on 08-08-2006 06:50 PM:

based on sample, best out at the mo so worth downloading.

2hrs long once unzipped. Do for me for now.

V 8
S 8, no syic issues
M not seen, will watch later.........



just for thoses who like to pick at ur comments:--

I checked for syic issues by skipping though the movie and watching small parts.

Never mind we're all perfect

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Posted by myndphuk on 08-08-2006 07:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by strange-u-say that

S 8, no syic issues
M not seen, will watch later.........



Your basing your "no sync issues" on a sample? If the sample was out of sync, there'd be something seriously wrong.

Please, if your going to rate it, dont say that you haven't seen it, and then say there is no sync issues!


Posted by djmist on 08-08-2006 07:08 PM:

best so far by miles. audio is good and sample is good even though its a dark scene

7/8/?


Posted by Bobsaget on 08-08-2006 07:15 PM:

V-7
A-7
M-9 (a 9 only cause of the scenes Mann cut, when the "director's extended version" comes out I will give it a 10 - He cut a boat race that was in all the trailers)

No sync issues to speak of, saw it in the theatre so I noticed some missing scenes, one is so hard to notice because PUKKA must have edited it so well, it is the park in Cuba with Colin and Gong Li when they first arrive and go to the club, it is only a talking scene and means nothing to the overall movie but it was cut from this release, also about a minute was cut from the end of the trailer park scene at the end, if you have seen the movie you will notice it. Even if you haven't seen it at the theatre you will probably realize something is missing. But overall a very very watchable copy, the scenes that are missing are either really short or not meaningful to the story and wouldn't be missed.


Posted by chris1983 on 08-08-2006 07:23 PM:

V : 5 - Too dark, colours washed, some flicker.

A: 7 - Clear, no sync issues from what i watched (first 20mins).

M: ?

Too dark to be considered "watchable" for me, particuarly on a PC monitor.


Posted by x1covers-mojo on 08-08-2006 07:23 PM:

I just watched the entire movie on my 61" Widescreen...no issues here...at all..best release to date....this is better than the Septic version as well....Nice rls!! Thanks


Video - 8
Audio - 8
Movie - 7 it was okay...lots of sex and drugs....but no rock and roll


Posted by martd on 08-08-2006 08:35 PM:

Watched the Septic sample but wasn't impressed.

Is this release better?


Posted by Mailman on 08-08-2006 09:25 PM:

I love a TS over cam any day, been waiting and finally have one. The video is nice with good colors. Yes, it's a bit cropped, but nothing to distract. The audio is good, has a bit of tin or hollow sound, but it's direct from what I can tell. Thanks for the release guys.

V-8
A-7.5
M-7


Posted by Mr Anarchy on 08-08-2006 09:33 PM:

Video is good but the audio is flawed like the recent Pukka releases in that it comes thru the rear speakers when converted to DVD format.
Easily fixed though.
V:8
A:7
M:6


Posted by Squidman on 08-08-2006 10:32 PM:

Wink thank you PUKKA

Thanks to PUKKA for answering my plea about getting a decent full length of this that didn't sound like it was being captured by a "diet coke can". LOL - Enjoyed this one the most so far.


Posted by OAKside on 08-08-2006 10:41 PM:

Love this release, reminds of PUKKAs Pirates DMC internal. Very nice video quality, good audio. No big sync issues, all is well. And Mann wins.

V8 A7 M8

More info and pics -> Link


Posted by KaiKo on 08-09-2006 12:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by x1covers-mojo
I just watched the entire movie on my 61" Widescreen...no issues here...at all..best release to date....this is better than the Septic version as well....Nice rls!! Thanks


Video - 8
Audio - 8
Movie - 7 it was okay...lots of sex and drugs....but no rock and roll



this is the same source as SEPTiC's. i believe SEPTiC and PUKKA = the same or share sources. look at the garb in the nfo's about p2p.


Posted by vipper1oo7 on 08-09-2006 04:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by x1covers-mojo
I just watched the entire movie on my 61" Widescreen...no issues here...at all..best release to date....this is better than the Septic version as well....Nice rls!! Thanks


Video - 8
Audio - 8
Movie - 7 it was okay...lots of sex and drugs....but no rock and roll


ah dude it is the same version as the septic but just an xvid version thats y its 1 cd and not 3.
v 9 awsome video its sapose to be dark like that and even with it being a ts making it more dark it gives the movie more effect.
a 7.5 slight hiss and static in the beginning but then goes away and comes back from time to time
m 9 awsome movie loved the tv show and now love the movie, they could have done more with it. but then sometimes too much is no good. gotta love the 50 cal's that sh** was awesome.

edit: lol sorry about that kaio i just clicked quote next to the dudes post didnt even read all the posts until after i posed the same thing as you my bad
quote:
Originally posted by Squidman
Thanks to PUKKA for answering my plea about getting a decent full length of this that didn't sound like it was being captured by a "diet coke can". LOL - Enjoyed this one the most so far.

no its not a full release total run time is just under 2 hours and total real run time is 2 hours 20 mins


Posted by nwoidaho on 08-09-2006 04:53 AM:

The reason the TRT is shorter (1:59:14) than what is listed on nearly every other website (2h 20min) is because it's running at 25fps.

V: 7.5 Similar to Pukka's "Lady In The Water"

A: 7 Should be nuked because no matter what anyone says, you can't turn a MONO track into stereo with re-coding the audio.

M: Will watch this copy soon


Posted by RipBlippley on 08-09-2006 12:12 PM:

From sample 7/6/5

Saw the movie in theaters and hated it. Will watch this full rls again to give it a second chance.

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Posted by sterio on 08-09-2006 03:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Anarchy
Video is good but the audio is flawed like the recent Pukka releases in that it comes thru the rear speakers when converted to DVD format.
Easily fixed though.
V:8
A:7
M:6



how is this prob fixed?


Posted by tompoeze on 08-09-2006 04:03 PM:

can someone pls post jpeg???


Posted by hacktic on 08-09-2006 07:00 PM:

I watched the first 30 mins. Very good quality compared to the other releases. Definately watchable. Excellent job pukka, I look foward to your reases.

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v:8 - A little overcropped at the bottom, grainy and the colors are a little washed out. I can't complain though, it's the best one out.

a:7 - Not the best but at least it's direct. I Played it in VLC switched it to mono and messed with the eq a little and got some pretty good sound out of it.

m: n/a - I watched the first 30 mins. and got bored so I turned it off. It seemed pretty good, though I expected more.


Posted by Mr Anarchy on 08-09-2006 07:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by sterio
how is this prob fixed?


Convert the audio to mono right using Goldwave or a similar package.


Posted by dsmerlin on 08-09-2006 08:08 PM:

very decent quality and sound is fine on pc..anyone help me converting this to dvd without getting scrambled sound plz?


Posted by chateau on 08-09-2006 08:20 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nwoidaho
[B]The reason the TRT is shorter (1:59:14) than what is listed on nearly every other website (2h 20min) is because it's running at 25fps.

You're not seriously suggesting that PUKKA has a film rate camera (23.976) that they then speed up to PAL (25) for their releases are you?

PAL DVD releases are shorter because of the framerate speedup, but cams are shot in the theatre. Unless there is some kind of mystical time warp thing happening, it's either missing some scenes or the credits are 20 minutes long.


Posted by Mr Anarchy on 08-09-2006 09:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chateau
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nwoidaho
[B]The reason the TRT is shorter (1:59:14) than what is listed on nearly every other website (2h 20min) is because it's running at 25fps.




The correct running time is 134 minutes long which includes the credits


Posted by nwoidaho on 08-09-2006 09:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chateau
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nwoidaho
[B]The reason the TRT is shorter (1:59:14) than what is listed on nearly every other website (2h 20min) is because it's running at 25fps.

You're not seriously suggesting that PUKKA has a film rate camera (23.976) that they then speed up to PAL (25) for their releases are you?

PAL DVD releases are shorter because of the framerate speedup, but cams are shot in the theatre. Unless there is some kind of mystical time warp thing happening, it's either missing some scenes or the credits are 20 minutes long.



Actually if PUKKA records the CAM source in PAL, the movie would be shorter in time compaired to the NTSC Total Run Time. NTSC has more frames per second so by nature would be a longer TRT because of the frame count.

More than likely during this PAL release, over the time of the movie, you could loose 10-13 minutes in NTSC realtime.
Without the credits, maybe 6-8 minutes, loosing 20 minutes of time compaired to the NTSC Total Run Time is possible.


Posted by kyk on 08-10-2006 06:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nwoidaho
Actually if PUKKA records the CAM source in PAL, the movie would be shorter in time compaired to the NTSC Total Run Time. NTSC has more frames per second so by nature would be a longer TRT because of the frame count.

More than likely during this PAL release, over the time of the movie, you could loose 10-13 minutes in NTSC realtime.
Without the credits, maybe 6-8 minutes, loosing 20 minutes of time compaired to the NTSC Total Run Time is possible.

Are you retarded? Seriously. How would framerate at all affect the length of a movie? The only difference is the amount of times the picture changes within the same time period.


Posted by bcool2k on 08-10-2006 09:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nwoidaho
Actually if PUKKA records the CAM source in PAL, the movie would be shorter in time compaired to the NTSC Total Run Time. NTSC has more frames per second so by nature would be a longer TRT because of the frame count.

More than likely during this PAL release, over the time of the movie, you could loose 10-13 minutes in NTSC realtime.
Without the credits, maybe 6-8 minutes, loosing 20 minutes of time compaired to the NTSC Total Run Time is possible.



Indeed i would agree with everything you have to say with a few exceptions. PUKKA has NEVER pred a Lady in the Water. That would be ORC and maVen or iCAM as seen in the intro b4 A Scanner Darkly. As for this film a bit too dark like maVen Lady in Water but light years better than any other copy out there. Congrats to SEPTIC/PUKKA for being the first to release this russian TS to the scene. This source was floating around several days before it hit.


Posted by minty on 08-10-2006 11:49 AM:

The best yet.. still a bit dark...
sounds quite hollow..
but watchable..

v7
a6
m7


Posted by chateau on 08-10-2006 04:22 PM:

well, this is getting off topic, but...

in the theatre, PAL and NTSC mean absolutely nothing. The movie runs along at 23.976 frames per second. That's progressive if you want to be picky. It's the same in every PAL country as it is in every NTSC country, because theatres don't use TV's to show their product. They use a film projector. Somebody comes along and sits down with a camera and starts shooting the movie. Their camera happens to shoot at 25 frames per second, because cameras are made to work with television systems (not theatres). They shoot the movie in real time because they're sitting there just like everybody else, and they haven't managed to figure out how to warp time yet, so the camera (or TS) is the same length as the actual movie release.

as stated earlier, the PAL shortening only applies to DVD releases where the studios actually do just speed up the film to 25 fps. For NTSC systems, the studios apply a 3:2 pulldown, which means they repeat half the frames twice and half the frames once in order ot get up to the 60 fields shown on NTSC televisions (12x2 + 12x3 = 60). By doing so, the NTSC DVD release is the same length as the actual film even though it's a very different framerate.

this release is dark but watchable. audio is excellent.


Posted by Phantom on 08-10-2006 04:48 PM:

7/7/5


Movie could have been waaay better.
I'd give it a 9 if that Asian chick came with the release.


Posted by Blackrazor on 08-10-2006 10:27 PM:

Fixing the "rear speaker" audio.

Clerk 2, Pirates 2 and now Miami Vice all have this problem.

I am now using MainConcept H.264 encoder...In the audio options I just select "Mono" and encode to mpg or dvd format.




V-8
A-8 (after the mono fix)
M-7


Posted by coriy on 08-10-2006 10:51 PM:

mono right goldwave sorry i just havnt been able to figure this out could you please be more descriptive


Posted by nwoidaho on 08-11-2006 02:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nwoidaho
Actually if PUKKA records the CAM source in PAL, the movie would be shorter in time compaired to the NTSC Total Run Time. NTSC has more frames per second so by nature would be a longer TRT because of the frame count.

More than likely during this PAL release, over the time of the movie, you could loose 10-13 minutes in NTSC realtime.
Without the credits, maybe 6-8 minutes, loosing 20 minutes of time compaired to the NTSC Total Run Time is possible.



Actually I've worked in TV for nearly 10 years and like it or not, a PAL release (IN REAL TIME) will technially be shorter in standard time than an NTSC release.

25fps is not real time, 30fps aka NTSC is in REAL TIME. Since 25fps in PAL equals a second and 30 fps in NTSC (REAL TIME) by capture process you will loose 5 frames per second, over the strech of a minute, you will loose 300 frames per minute (or 9 seconds in real time) using the PAL Standard. Over the time period of an hour, you will lose roughly 9 minutes of time.

There is no missing scenes in this movie. The shortened TRT Time is explained by the usage of the capture format being in PAL compaired to a TRT time from an NTSC reel.

The Pukka release of "Lady in The Water" was internal, that is why it is not indexed on this tracker.


Posted by frak on 08-11-2006 10:09 AM:

watched this verison on the TV last night (liking the xvid/divx dvd player)

quality is pretty good, especially considering it's a relatively dark movie to start. Color is good as is the sharpness. The audio is good as well, didn't sound hollow on the 5.1, no hissing and the dialog was clear

movie was decent.. didn't really have a desire to see this film, but being bored can change things. Colin doesn't really work as sonny crocket, but jamie foxx does a good job as tubbs.

v: 8
a:8
m: 7


Posted by The Leather Goddess on 08-11-2006 04:40 PM:

Best Release,,bad flick,,,,,,,for those of us old enough,, and there not many here on this forum,,,,,who remember sitting at home, watching Miami Vice, before heading out to the clubs, this falls way short.
Don Johnson made straight white men stop wearing socks and started them pushing up their peach, white, yellow, mint, lavender, colored jackets. Don Johnson made Ray Bans the THING way before Tom Cruise danced in his underwear.

First: Jamie Fox's original character, RICARDO Tubbs, was Puerto Rican. Fox obviously can't do a PR accent.

Second: PLEASE, a perixoded Colin Farrell looking like he doesn't know what shampoo is for..muchless soap. And the mustache.

Third, Miami: so dark and dank, it could have been filmed in New York City in the Bowery.
Only thing swank about this remake was the car and boats.......where Colin Farrell's greasy, bleached out hair hardly moves.

V=8
A=8
M=4


Posted by Mr Anarchy on 08-11-2006 06:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by coriy
mono right goldwave sorry i just havnt been able to figure this out could you please be more descriptive


Open the file up in goldwave,
Select effect (across the top),then select stereo,channel mix,
Select mono right or left.
press ok....(wait while it changes audio)
then save as a wav file
then mix it with your video using etc tmpgenc express.


Posted by chateau on 08-14-2006 03:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nwoidaho
Actually I've worked in TV for nearly 10 years and like it or not, a PAL release (IN REAL TIME) will technially be shorter in standard time than an NTSC release.

25fps is not real time, 30fps aka NTSC is in REAL TIME.

The Pukka release of "Lady in The Water" was internal, that is why it is not indexed on this tracker.




Must have been a pretty crappy TV station you were working at. But hey, maybe you were actually in advertising.
NTSC is no more real time than PAL. If you capture something at 25fps and play it back at 25fps, it's real time. This movie was captured by a guy sitting in a theatre at 25ps and it's getting played back at 25fps.


Posted by wayne89 on 08-15-2006 01:47 AM:

i thought this release was shit

V4
A5
M8

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Posted by Squidman on 08-19-2006 06:00 AM:

V 8
A 7
M 8


Thanks to PUKKA thanks for making a release that could be watched. Yes us ole geezers remember the days of Don Johnson and if the 2 trailers didn't clue you into what kind of movie this was then shame to you.

It was worth the ten-cents I spent converting this to a dvdr, to watch on my 27" old tv. Was it short? maybe because there is 2 scenes missing from the copy. Go see it in the theatre and you will know which scenes, but 2 hours is more attention than most teens can handle.

To the other members : Thanks for pointing out that Jamie fox isn't puerto-rican, that was almost as obvious as Colin having bleached hair and no five o clock shadow. /Me shakes his head and wonders..

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Posted by porntogo on 08-31-2006 02:59 AM:

There is no way you would lose 15-20 mins over the course of a movie just cause the fps are different. If you want proof check every ntsc/pal retail release where one or the other(ntsc I think) is nearly always a minute or so longer over 2 hours but thats it.

And just to highlight how daft this point is, ive seen the movie in the cinema and this version is missing at least 3 scenes. A whole dance sequence before the sex scene, a sequence before the caravan explosion and a scene in the boss' mansion.

Thats why the running time is missing minutes.

7/7/7


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