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Posted by ThEiLlEsT on 10-13-2002 10:36 AM:

finally a good version of this movie , great quality as usual thanks tcf.

Posted by goSu on 10-13-2002 11:13 AM:

yup just took a quick look at the sample, sound is great, video looks a bit blurry, but that could be from my lack of sleep ... if you liked this movie you'll surely want to download and watch a great quality release

Posted by [psycho] on 10-13-2002 01:35 PM:

good quality and sound. and only 1 cd

Posted by Touvex on 10-13-2002 02:00 PM:

sorry for being of topic but i just found this extremly funny =)

Votes by Voldemort

TITLE GROUP VIDEO AUDIO MOVIE
Fear Dot Com FTF 7 8 7
The Tuxedo *LBX* *SVCD* Legacy 1 1 1
Moonlight Mile *LiMiTED* VideoCD 10 10 10
A Shot At Glory *LiMiTED* *SVCD* iNFiNiTY 10 10 10
Trapped *UNCUT* *PROPER* A-Team 10 10 10
Sweet Sixteen *LiMiTED* CaMeL 10 10 10
The Ring FTF 10 10 10
Austin Powers 3 & K-19: The Widowmaker Packing *READ NFO* VideoCD 10 10 10
The Touch UTi 10 10 10
Brown Sugar A-Team 1 1 1
Slap Her... She's French *uNSuBBeD* SHOCKVCD 1 1 1
Welcome To Collinwood ESOTERiC 1 1 1
The Transporter *PROPER* SMF 10 10 10

Posted by dc_man on 10-13-2002 04:10 PM:

Nice screener, gay movie.

Posted by zcar on 10-13-2002 04:42 PM:

yeah i noticed voldermorts gay voting too

ban his mooly ass now
please

Posted by Asterisk on 10-13-2002 05:45 PM:

Sound is brilliant (stereo). Video is ok, not TCF's usual standard.
I'm getting too used to their brilliant quality screeners.

7/9/6.

Posted by KornKid on 10-13-2002 06:19 PM:

screwed over

i know this is off topic, but i cannot stand this damn thing any longer.... i get all my movies and games from criten, efnte, on mirc, how can u guys get it the day after it's released... theres got to be antoher way!

Posted by zcar on 10-13-2002 06:29 PM:

dear god this is a bad film

been said before i know
this is the worst film this year (black knight was last year i think)
truly terrible
the next line coming from dana carveys lips will be "would you like a mcdonalds coke with that?"
awe inspiringly bad film
great rip and sound etc
just a bad film

Posted by moviedan713 on 10-13-2002 07:09 PM:

Re: dear god this is a bad film

quote:
Originally posted by zcar
been said before i know
this is the worst film this year (black knight was last year i think)
truly terrible
the next line coming from dana carveys lips will be "would you like a mcdonalds coke with that?"
awe inspiringly bad film
great rip and sound etc
just a bad film

finally a great copy. now the next thing we need is a DVD SCREENER or DVDRIP.

Posted by dopeuser8 on 10-13-2002 07:52 PM:

too bad this was such a shitty movie, although I think it was more in the writing than the acting, just my opinion...

and KornKid, please don't ask where to get movies faster than the sources you got already, and also please don't post your sources either.

Posted by killfxp on 10-13-2002 08:26 PM:

Votes by nightmare_1

TITLE GROUP VIDEO AUDIO MOVIE
K-19: The Widowmaker *PROPER* *uNSuBBeD* TCF 10 10 7
Austin Powers in Goldmember VideoCD 4 3 7
Serving Sara VideoCD 2 2 4
K-19 The Widowmaker *READ NFO* VideoCD 1 2 5
The Master Of Disguise TCF 10 9 4
Crocodile Hunter Collision Course *XviD* RSP 2 3 3
Unfaithful *FS* *SVCD* VideoCD 4 4 3
I Spy *iNTERNAL* A-Team 1 2 4
The Transporter *PROPER* SMF 2 2 6
Welcome To Collinwood ESOTERiC 10 9 7
Slap Her... She's French *uNSuBBeD* SHOCKVCD 3 2 4
Brown Sugar A-Team 2 2 5
Ballistic: Ecks Vs Sever *PROPER* A-Team 1 2 3
Knockaround Guys *iNTERNAL* A-Team 1 2 4
Austin Powers 3: In GoldMember TCF 10 10 8
The Touch UTi 4 3 6
Austin Powers 3: In GoldMember *XviD* DVL 10 9

loooooool

Posted by ub3rk1d on 10-13-2002 08:29 PM:

Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by KornKid
i know this is off topic, but i cannot stand this damn thing any longer.... i get all my movies and games from criten, efnte, on mirc, how can u guys get it the day after it's released... theres got to be antoher way!

maybe in time youll see, i had access to this as soon as it was pre'd

Posted by Commy on 10-13-2002 08:54 PM:

Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by KornKid
i know this is off topic, but i cannot stand this damn thing any longer.... i get all my movies and games from criten, efnte, on mirc, how can u guys get it the day after it's released... theres got to be antoher way!

that sounds like a request

this was a good squeeze to 1 cd. the movie itself is shit..i only watched it because i like jennifer esposito

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Posted by zcar on 10-13-2002 09:17 PM:

Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by KornKid
i know this is off topic, but i cannot stand this damn thing any longer.... i get all my movies and games from criten, efnte, on mirc, how can u guys get it the day after it's released... theres got to be antoher way!

haha

the day after a movie is released!!!
a mirc channel???
wtf
are you serious????

WHO THE HELL GETS FILMS FROM CHANNELS??
laughing my ass off

Posted by nokia on 10-13-2002 09:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by killfxp
Votes by nightmare_1

TITLE GROUP VIDEO AUDIO MOVIE
K-19: The Widowmaker *PROPER* *uNSuBBeD* TCF 10 10 7
Austin Powers in Goldmember VideoCD 4 3 7
Serving Sara VideoCD 2 2 4
K-19 The Widowmaker *READ NFO* VideoCD 1 2 5
The Master Of Disguise TCF 10 9 4
Crocodile Hunter Collision Course *XviD* RSP 2 3 3
Unfaithful *FS* *SVCD* VideoCD 4 4 3
I Spy *iNTERNAL* A-Team 1 2 4
The Transporter *PROPER* SMF 2 2 6
Welcome To Collinwood ESOTERiC 10 9 7
Slap Her... She's French *uNSuBBeD* SHOCKVCD 3 2 4
Brown Sugar A-Team 2 2 5
Ballistic: Ecks Vs Sever *PROPER* A-Team 1 2 3
Knockaround Guys *iNTERNAL* A-Team 1 2 4
Austin Powers 3: In GoldMember TCF 10 10 8
The Touch UTi 4 3 6
Austin Powers 3: In GoldMember *XviD* DVL 10 9

loooooool

Votes by killfxp

TITLE GROUP VIDEO AUDIO MOVIE
Serving Sara VideoCD 9 9 9
Austin Powers in Goldmember VideoCD 9 9 9
Halloween: Resurrection *REAL* UTi 7 7 3
The Ring FTF n/a n/a n/a
My Little Eye UTi 2 2 2
Little Secrets *LiMiTED* UTi 2 2 2
The Master Of Disguise TCF 1 2 1
Windtalkers *XviD* DEiTY 9 9 9
Unfaithful *FS* *SVCD* VideoCD 9 9 9
Crocodile Hunter Collision Course *XviD* RSP 10 10 9

Why are you laughing? Not like you're any different...

Posted by Commy on 10-13-2002 09:36 PM:

Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by zcar

haha

the day after a movie is released!!!
a mirc channel???
wtf
are you serious????

WHO THE HELL GETS FILMS FROM CHANNELS??
laughing my ass off

people a step higher on the ladder than kazaa users, heh

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Posted by M_J on 10-14-2002 12:34 AM:

worst movie ever made....

Posted by youremoms on 10-14-2002 12:34 AM:

kazaa rocks

i get my shit 0sec from kazaa thats were ******** went ..they just release on kazaa now...
god bless ******** ..i just finished watching this movie ..it fucking rocks (quality wize) the movie itself is funny at parts but the whole story is wack any way big ups to tcf the best release group today

Posted by The Booker Man on 10-14-2002 01:25 AM:

Cant stand fucking computer nerds trying to be cool by having a movie 5 minutes before someone else, fucking fags

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Posted by LEgacy18x on 10-14-2002 04:54 AM:

I find it amazing how many poeple are so eager to say they have these great hook-ups.

Posted by goatboy on 10-14-2002 05:40 AM:

quote:
I find it amazing how many poeple are so eager to say they have these great hook-ups.

the people that brag about it are the ones that dont have any (kazaa users :)

Posted by nefariousi on 10-14-2002 07:37 AM:

Good Quality, but that is nothing new for these guys.. Just want you people to remember, this was a horrid move

Posted by crob on 10-14-2002 10:03 AM:

If, like me, you're a casual downloader of quality stuff - I just wait until it gets posted on the newsgroups. Very easy and simple to do.

Posted by mew on 10-14-2002 04:06 PM:

Nice "movie" TCF

Posted by dumwaldo on 10-14-2002 06:14 PM:

Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by zcar

haha

the day after a movie is released!!!
a mirc channel???
wtf
are you serious????

WHO THE HELL GETS FILMS FROM CHANNELS??
laughing my ass off

I DO! (he says while puffing out his chest)
and you know what? i get them within 24 hours of release too.
the bin is 823,646 KB as reported by windows explorer, the film is 1:19:32 as reported by windows media player 6.4 and there are no end credits, the screen does a quick fade to black after the dog falls and thats it.

yes i am serious, and if you pulled your head out of your ass long enough to look around you would notice that even usenet is getting movies posted in full inside of 1 to 2 days. not that i like it but it is being done.

BTW
last time i checked credits was just another way to say ratio and ratio sites are about 3 steps BELOW kazaa in my opinion. how long did you have to live the ratio life to get leech IF you even have any leech sites. you might think (in your own mind) that your sources are very good but there is no reason to insult the sources of others. i have been around the block (twice) and i will tell you this as a fact, every source has its downsides, including scene ftp's.

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Posted by nokia on 10-14-2002 06:26 PM:

Re: Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by dumwaldo
the bin is 823,646 KB as reported by windows explorer, the film is 1:19:32 as reported by windows media player 6.4 and there are no end credits, the screen does a quick fade to black after the dog falls and thats it.

The end credits are before the dog falls (scroll through your media player again and you would see), the nfo even explains that the outtakes are APART of the end credits. Not all end credits is a black screen with letters scrolling up, I've noticed this on many comedies which have outtakes.

Posted by dumwaldo on 10-14-2002 06:47 PM:

hehe...
i just jumped to the last 15 seconds of the video. i couldnt bear the thought of subjecting myself to this wretched movie again.

didn't mean to cause any confusion just trying to offer evidence that an un-connected non-scene nobody like myself could have VCD's the first day they are out just using IRC and newsgroups.

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Posted by mew on 10-14-2002 06:48 PM:

Re: Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by dumwaldo

BTW
last time i checked credits was just another way to say ratio and ratio sites are about 3 steps BELOW kazaa in my opinion. how long did you have to live the ratio life to get leech IF you even have any leech sites. you might think (in your own mind) that your sources are very good but there is no reason to insult the sources of others. i have been around the block (twice) and i will tell you this as a fact, every source has its downsides, including scene ftp's.

Eh you are aware of the fact that all "topsites" are ratio right? You think anyone would upload anything if they were leech? How naive...

Also why bash people that use diffrent (not as "l33t") methods to get their stuff? Most people started out that way anyway, so give it a rest.

Posted by nokia on 10-14-2002 07:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dumwaldo
hehe...
i just jumped to the last 15 seconds of the video. i couldnt bear the thought of subjecting myself to this wretched movie again.

didn't mean to cause any confusion just trying to offer evidence that an un-connected non-scene nobody like myself could have VCD's the first day they are out just using IRC and newsgroups.

I wouldn't watch it again either, dumb ass fuckin film but hey... someone might dl it?!?

Posted by garagekru on 10-14-2002 08:48 PM:

Posted by blacks on 10-14-2002 11:09 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by mew

Eh you are aware of the fact that all "topsites" are ratio right? You think anyone would upload anything if they were leech? How naive...

Also why bash people that use diffrent (not as "l33t") methods to get their stuff? Most people started out that way anyway, so give it a rest.

errr, actually, u are wrong.

Posted by svenbob on 10-14-2002 11:24 PM:

Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by KornKid
i know this is off topic, but i cannot stand this damn thing any longer.... i get all my movies and games from criten, efnte, on mirc, how can u guys get it the day after it's released... theres got to be antoher way!

/me waits for the mods...

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Posted by mew on 10-14-2002 11:26 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by blacks

errr, actually, u are wrong.

About what?

Posted by svenbob on 10-14-2002 11:26 PM:

Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by zcar

haha

the day after a movie is released!!!
a mirc channel???
wtf
are you serious????

WHO THE HELL GETS FILMS FROM CHANNELS??
laughing my ass off

grow up. Dont be an ass. I used to. Then I learned other methods.

Posted by svenbob on 10-14-2002 11:30 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by mew

Eh you are aware of the fact that all "topsites" are ratio right? You think anyone would upload anything if they were leech? How naive...

...thats what the whole idea of warez is founded on.. *smack* I dont have ratio on any of my sites... I still curry when I can

Posted by darkslide on 10-14-2002 11:35 PM:

Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by zcar

haha

the day after a movie is released!!!
a mirc channel???
wtf
are you serious????

WHO THE HELL GETS FILMS FROM CHANNELS??
laughing my ass off

you

i get a lot of movies from irc as well... nothing wrong with that... as long as i get them what the hell is the point of making fun of people? it's like saying

"I got a chocolate chip cookie, from the box.. you had to grab one from someone who was handing them out..."

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Posted by mew on 10-15-2002 04:19 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by svenbob

...thats what the whole idea of warez is founded on.. *smack* I dont have ratio on any of my sites... I still curry when I can

Well most people wouldnt upload as activly with leech as with rato, and that is a fact. You can brag all you want about your leeches but if you've ever been on a ranked site you'd know what Im talking about. Have fun leeching your 3-day ftps and thinking you know what you're talking about.

Posted by Lfew on 10-15-2002 05:58 AM:

mass confusion

after reading the posts on this rls i decided to download it. i have 3 rls of this movie. now i dont give a shit who gets what first and im not affiliated with any group. So, i have a totally unbiased objective report on any rls. I dont give a shit who encodes what. I personally would rather rip dvds than watch a shitty rls. Heres the deal, and if u cant see the difference some of you need to get a better paying job or a job period and get a new hd widescreen tube tv and a new dvd player that is svcd compatible - apex or jvc.
Now i know this is going to piss of alot of ppl that think that the sun rises and sits on tcf. Well, i think they are a good group too but, the ateam svcd release is better the video anyhow. To me its a whole point higher on video quality. The sound is not as good on the ateam rls but the picture is superior, even the text in the beginning of the movie is quite a bit sharper. If you had spent 2k on a new tv then u too could see the difference. Video out does not cut it on my system and i have a vivo ti4200 with 128mb. Video out does not support pre scan like a high quality (new and cheap dvd player) unfortunately the hd tvs are not cheap. But the difference is very noticable on my system. So, if u have a similar system you definately want the ateam svcd version. I read somewhere in the reviews that this is vcdquality not svcd quality. Well, time marches on and so does technology. DVD

Posted by nokia on 10-15-2002 11:20 AM:

Re: mass confusion

quote:
Originally posted by Lfew
after reading the posts on this rls i decided to download it. i have 3 rls of this movie. now i dont give a shit who gets what first and im not affiliated with any group. So, i have a totally unbiased objective report on any rls. I dont give a shit who encodes what. I personally would rather rip dvds than watch a shitty rls. Heres the deal, and if u cant see the difference some of you need to get a better paying job or a job period and get a new hd widescreen tube tv and a new dvd player that is svcd compatible - apex or jvc.
Now i know this is going to piss of alot of ppl that think that the sun rises and sits on tcf. Well, i think they are a good group too but, the ateam svcd release is better the video anyhow. To me its a whole point higher on video quality. The sound is not as good on the ateam rls but the picture is superior, even the text in the beginning of the movie is quite a bit sharper. If you had spent 2k on a new tv then u too could see the difference. Video out does not cut it on my system and i have a vivo ti4200 with 128mb. Video out does not support pre scan like a high quality (new and cheap dvd player) unfortunately the hd tvs are not cheap. But the difference is very noticable on my system. So, if u have a similar system you definately want the ateam svcd version. I read somewhere in the reviews that this is vcdquality not svcd quality. Well, time marches on and so does technology. DVD

And now you know the difference between mpeg-1 and mpeg-2! weee... too bad most people prefer screeners as vcd, and dvd's as svcds.

Posted by billymcq2 on 10-15-2002 01:02 PM:

Re: Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by dumwaldo

yes i am serious, and if you pulled your head out of your ass long enough to look around you would notice that even usenet is getting movies posted in full inside of 1 to 2 days. not that i like it but it is being done.

What don't you like about stuff being posted on usenet? Do you think that people connected to "The Scene" should have this stuff for a week or so before the plebs get it?

Billy

Posted by dumwaldo on 10-15-2002 04:24 PM:

i have no problems with movies being posted on usenet and since it is one of my sources i even appreciate it.

what i am not fond of is when they are posted in full within a 24 hour time period. usenet resources are limited and need to be used in a way that they spread around for everybody to use. i think when someone posts over a gig in one day its using more of those resources than they are 'entitled' to.

usenet posts should never consist of more than a half a CD of data per day. posting a 2 disc VCD in one day is to fast and the increased volume is causeing problems for the entire usenet system.

take a look at the volume increase on usenet in the last few months... http://news-hub.cableinet.net/

i recently had a discussion about this on another forum. if your interested the post is here... http://forum.newzbin.com/showthread.php?threadid=487

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Posted by billymcq2 on 10-15-2002 06:19 PM:

I know what you mean, I misunderstood you mate!

Billy

Posted by desertboy on 10-16-2002 01:49 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: screwed over

quote:
Originally posted by billymcq2

What don't you like about stuff being posted on usenet? Do you think that people connected to "The Scene" should have this stuff for a week or so before the plebs get it?

Billy

I think you hit the nail on the head, I think it makes them feel a bit less elite. Don't like the fact that people who don't devote their entire lives to the scene should be allowed access.

I think the order goes like this

P2P eg. Kazaa, EDonkey, Overnet, Etc. (A week or 2 after appeering on VcdQuality)
IRC eg. Fileservers(A few days, stupid queues)
Newsgroups eg. Usenet(A couple of days, quite often missing parts)
IRC eg. Xdcc's (When I have used, I get 60-80K a sec normally, no stupid 50 seperate parts to get.) (same day generally, there are exceptions and queues can mean it takes a day just to get a release. Great if downloading stuff midweek, never seem to queue except for divx dvd rips)
Private FTP's(Depends on the FTP but the ones I've been on same day, day before sometimes)
Topsites(Never been on one, pre vcdquality though)

Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I see it. I'm not at the top or bottom of the chain but I won't tell you which rung of the ladder I normally cohabit at.

PS 8/8/3 good copy of a bad film (kids seem to like it though).

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Posted by dumwaldo on 10-16-2002 02:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
Newsgroups eg. Usenet(A couple of days, quite often missing parts)

usenet is always the first part of the internet to make use of new technologies. currently most usenet posters are using something known as par files that can be used to replace missing parts or repair corrupted parts. incompletes are no longer an issue except for on the most incompetent news servers.

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
IRC eg. Xdcc's (When I have used, I get 60-80K a sec normally, no stupid 50 seperate parts to get.) (same day generally, there are exceptions and queues can mean it takes a day just to get a release. Great if downloading stuff midweek, never seem to queue except for divx dvd rips)

no stupid 50 seperate parts to get? no instead you download a tar file then extract all the parts then extract the bin and cue. so you get 50 seperate rar's PLUS a tar and an extra 700 meg on your hard drive before you get the movie extracted. also what do you do when the served archive is missing a part? or how about when the archive is corrupt? or how about when the parts all get scrambled names?

you also forgot to mention that for the most part VCD's are offered as 2 seperate archives so that will mean getting into, and waiting out a queue 2 seperate times.

another thing is that NO ROOM gets every release onto public servers 0-day. so you will need a good repitoir of places to look. you can get help by searching for "xdcclist" sites with google

but even then finding a queue slot to get into is very difficult for less experienced users.

IRC as a whole gets releases 0-day but it is spread across dozens of rooms on several different networks. to a majority of people IRC would be no faster than newsgroups. to those that dont mind putting some effort in then IRC can be a 0-day source but dont try to make it out like there are no queues to download VCD's because there certainly are for the first few days after release and they are generally filled by the people that know how to /timer themself into a full queue.

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Posted by Jetster33 on 10-16-2002 06:55 PM:

didnt think the quality was that great and as far as im concerned the movie wasnt either.. 6/6/3

Posted by billymcq2 on 10-16-2002 07:32 PM:

I personally don't care where anyone gets stuff from, whatever suits you, use it.

I certainly don't have the patience or time to learn how to sift through rooms, channels etc, and I don't exactly NEED any of this stuff as soon as possible, so I wait for it to come on usenet. If it doesn't then feck it, what I never had in the first place I won't miss!

I've never had anything off usenet that I couldn't complete with PAR's or friends re-posting a few fills for me. Works fine for me.

BTW, I watched this film last night and thought it was really funny (especially the Turtle Club scene!), good video and sound.

7/7/8

Billy

Posted by Jetster33 on 10-16-2002 08:42 PM:

no stupid 50 seperate parts to get? no instead you download a tar file then extract a

Man i dont know about usenet im on a buisness network at work and they cannot control the bandwith in irc or know where its comin from so i leach up with irc thats why i use it..They constantly are controlling the internet and i would have been caught years ago so as far as irc its the best as far as im concerned.."IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT" and for invalid tars and corrupts simply go to chan #incomplete warez and request the file that corrupts your bin and VOILA your done. Takes no longer than a few hours for a movie at 150-200k-a-sec. Im not complainin!

Posted by desertboy on 10-16-2002 11:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dumwaldo

usenet is always the first part of the internet to make use of new technologies. currently most usenet posters are using something known as par files that can be used to replace missing parts or repair corrupted parts. incompletes are no longer an issue except for on the most incompetent news servers.

no stupid 50 seperate parts to get? no instead you download a tar file then extract all the parts then extract the bin and cue. so you get 50 seperate rar's PLUS a tar and an extra 700 meg on your hard drive before you get the movie extracted. also what do you do when the served archive is missing a part? or how about when the archive is corrupt? or how about when the parts all get scrambled names?

you also forgot to mention that for the most part VCD's are offered as 2 seperate archives so that will mean getting into, and waiting out a queue 2 seperate times.

another thing is that NO ROOM gets every release onto public servers 0-day. so you will need a good repitoir of places to look. you can get help by searching for "xdcclist" sites with google but even then finding a queue slot to get into is very difficult for less experienced users.

IRC as a whole gets releases 0-day but it is spread across dozens of rooms on several different networks. to a majority of people IRC would be no faster than newsgroups. to those that dont mind putting some effort in then IRC can be a 0-day source but dont try to make it out like there are no queues to download VCD's because there certainly are for the first few days after release and they are generally filled by the people that know how to /timer themself into a full queue.

I've got 2 120 gigs in 1 machin and 140gig in my "TV" Server both networked so an extra 700 megs isn't really a problem, now I know it's a bit of a faux par to discuss such things but #vmz_incomplete fills out my missing archive (Rare at least for me but has happened) also I can get the missing file off Usenet of course. I agree you do have to queue twice (Sometimes though you'll get a gig+ archive with all the cd's in it) but you can queue on 2 different xdcc's of course. Not everything's 0 day of course (including vcdquality of course & Usenet) I've nothing against such a beast in fact I try to tame it from time to time but I stand by it I personally prefer IRC to newsgroups I'm sure a lot people feel the other way. Topsites are of course the best and private FTP's are certainly better if they have what you're looking for.

Peace my brothers and remember no matter how you get you're films there's always someone more eilte & someone more lame so why worry.

Remember dumwaldo

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peace out,
dumwaldo

since 98% of the people that enjoy these releases are not part of the "scene" what does it matter where you download from?"

Peace out indead

PS I really really shouldn't post this and I'm sure most of you IRCer's know it but www.packetnews.com

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Posted by dumwaldo on 10-17-2002 12:53 AM:

my whole point is just that IRC is not an easy 'beast to tame'.

personally i consider newsgroups and IRC to be complete equals in the distribution chain.

usenet might take a little longer sometimes but it is easier to lear and use.

IRC might be harder to learn but it is generally faster than usenet, IF you are good.

of course this only applies to VCD's. for smaller size releases like games or music usenet just eats up IRC.

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