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Posted by M_J on 06-28-2002 03:03 AM:

nice!!

Posted by DrOmango on 06-28-2002 03:08 AM:

so is it better than teg release?

Posted by Skippy_2002ca on 06-28-2002 03:14 AM:

Dupe

SO IS this a dupe OF the Teg Version Our IS this tooken from the same source as the teg One

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Posted by d3llu$ionz on 06-28-2002 03:23 AM:

This is why I wait, not like you dogs in heat.

Nice release overall and I'm not talking about the jpeg or sample in case your wondering.

Posted by TitoMcFlores on 06-28-2002 04:29 AM:

I have yet to get the sample but going by the jpeg there this cannot be from the same source.. the teg rls and the vcd rls were much darker than this rls ... so i am diggin the picture quality.. lets just hope the audio is up there along with the pic

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Posted by Cardcaddy on 06-28-2002 04:36 AM:

Finally a descent looking VCD, Nice release. and no its not the same source as the TEG and Vcdistro.

Posted by svenbob on 06-28-2002 05:00 AM:

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SO IS this a dupe OF the Teg Version Our IS this tooken from the same source as the teg One

Its a Proper, its just a re-encode of the old one, and a damn good one i might add, quality is a whole lot better!

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Posted by dopeuser8 on 06-28-2002 05:14 AM:

Im still waiting to see this anywhere, hopefully in the next few hours it'll be a bit more accessable, but getting a rough idea from the jpegs I'd cerainly think it looks alright, but then I see the low ratings and *dupe* comments?? what the fuck?? if someone knows something I dont please post a comment so I don't loose any sleep trying to find this thing if it really is that bad

Posted by rolandtn on 06-28-2002 05:19 AM:

Best so far

This is definitely best of the 3 versions released so far. Worth the download for being still such an early pre-release. Sound is good, picture is what is expected from a TS. Only watched the sample and skimmed through 2nd CD so not sure if any major probs with the encode or not. So far give a 6/7/8

Posted by stumpy_006 on 06-28-2002 07:01 AM:

i dont think its the same source .. no watermarks ..

this an awsome release, BTW .. although i've only seen the sample ... video is very nice, although i still find the sound to be abit hollow .. its in sync.

7/8 from me .. great work guys

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Posted by PhAnToMs on 06-28-2002 09:11 AM:

great

once again i get lucky with get another release early ok heres the things with this one

Video - Video is great the camera isnt moving around and all like the begining of the other one the color is pretty good doesnt seem to be blocky at all words are in sync also. Video gets a 8

Audio - The audio could use some tweaking there is too much bass in the audio and not enough treble so i would sugest to turn ur treble up on the tv. Audio gets a 7

Movie - Movie is great but it is way too short. movie gets a 9

hard to belive we can get a good quality of this pre and we still have a shitty version of minority report.

NO MATTER WHAT SOMONE SAYS THIS IS NOT A DUPE

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Posted by PhAnToMs on 06-28-2002 09:49 AM:

I stand corected sorry for my original post both the video and the audio are from the same SOURCE but it is not a dupe i found this out while comparing the 2 cds the proper accually goes to the credits unlike the teg the teg u miss like the last 15seconds but i would sugest gettin the Esoteric this one much better sound and picture teg must of just encoded wrong

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Posted by doobie on 06-28-2002 02:56 PM:

Ok watched whole thing, video is better than rest..I downloaded TEG version, burned one CD, put it in and decided it wasn't watchable. So I got this one and it's better. First thought it shoulda been svcd quality but as movie progressed it's telesyncness showed through. Audio got staticy for a few seconds in like 5 spots.

I'd call this a typical telesync...the others I would call less than par telesyncs. Brightness okay on this one, not a big problem, aspect ratio is almost full screen but not quite (whatever that means). The image is mabey a little bit soft, but that's typical telesync.

Compared to other telesyncs i rate this:

Video - 8.9 (Mabey coulda been a tad sharper? Mabey not, typical ts)
Audio - 8 (Goes staticy during a few parts, and parts while people talk'n so that's no good)
Overall - 8.8 (Thought it was fine, but I just wish it was dvd quality
Movie - 7.9 (Funny movie, weak plot, weak acting)

Posted by x|LeaF|x on 06-28-2002 10:20 PM:

Nice Job

The video is not blocky by any means, but could have been a bit sharper. The audio is a bit hollow, but is bearable. I have not burned this rls yet, but the extracted MPG looks alright. I dont see why this release has only a 6.4. Should be @ least a 7.5.

Just My 2 cents.

Video= 7.8
Sound=7.5
Movie=??(looks good though)

Posted by keyzas on 06-29-2002 01:06 AM:

I give it a 7/6.

The video's pretty good, with better sound, you'd appreciate the video more. The sound is a little hollowy and dialogue on more than one occasion is difficult to understand.

I wish people would stop bitching about groups period, who da fuck is you to whine when I don't see your ass releasing movies, so just stfu.

Posted by misfits138 on 06-29-2002 04:58 AM:

will this one fit on 1 cd like the teg version did?

Posted by moviebootlegger on 06-29-2002 05:03 AM:

i could settle for the video cuz its ok and not blocky much BUT.....................a fuckin dude makin shadow puppets of somthin on cd 2 killed it. and the audio is out of sync throughout the entire movie . was a very nice pic but damn the dude standing up and the sync probs ruined it. im glad i didnt watch the whole thing i jus skimmed through the 2nd cd.

Posted by OzZyOz on 06-29-2002 05:07 AM:

The picture was an improvment from the TEG but the sound hell sometimes u couldn't here a word of what Will Smith was saying! Just wait for another realease I'm sure it will get better everytime. The audio in the TEG was better than the audio on this the movie is a disappontment! I'd give it a 7/4/6.

Posted by wunautica on 06-29-2002 05:49 AM:

okies...im new here..anywayz..alwayz read peeps post here to get a great idea if I should DL tha movies or not. I couldn't resist on this movie though..anywayz..here mah review.

I had this movie earlier this morning..extracted it to mpeg..watched it..compared it to TEG-sample.

#1...this ESOTERiC version does come from tha same source as TEG..just that TEG's version w/ recoded and was added a watermark. The ESOTERiC version has the same aspect ratio..same hallow sound. I was very dissappointed..but heY.i know..its FREE..so I won't bitch bout it. If you are wanting to see this movie now, then i said go w/ TEG's version...in the ESOTERiC..tha audio changes..and gets clearer for some reason on CD2...in CD1..it was a lot of bass...dats it..bearly almost hear nothang...then all of a sudden CD2..it was clear...anywayz..overall this version sux!!!...and how could some of you guys give an 8 for video?...i've seen way better telesyncs then this..and would only rate them an 8.

RATING: 6/4/? haven't watch tha whole movie yet =)

Posted by petrocs on 06-29-2002 06:45 AM:

anyone know if TMPGenc can fix the audio or not and if so what settings?

Posted by XCheMiCal on 06-29-2002 07:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PhAnToMs
I stand corected sorry for my original post both the video and the audio are from the same SOURCE but it is not a dupe i found this out while comparing the 2 cds the proper accually goes to the credits unlike the teg the teg u miss like the last 15seconds but i would sugest gettin the Esoteric this one much better sound and picture teg must of just encoded wrong

Dude what the hell are you talking about you blind or something they just cut to different credits from a different movie and its even different music Come on and this all happens with in 5seconds. Both Men In Black II *PROPER* ESOTERiC and Men in black II VideoCD are from Teg-Vcd they are just rencoded and anyone that says they are not are dumbasses just look at the end and you will see the same lady putting her bag on her sholder same people walking on the same shots same sound cuts. And I think its so sad that other groups try to get credit for other peoples work by adding some credits from a different movie and change the color and try to fuck oround with the sound. This is really pissing me off they did the same thing with starwars Ep2 like 10 different verisions all from the ftf. its so stupid they should stop wasting people time and get their own shit. Props to Teg-Vcd
without them ESOTERIC and VideoCD wouldn't have MIB2 so sad....

Posted by pHo on 06-29-2002 08:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by XCheMiCal
without them ESOTERIC and VideoCD wouldn't have MIB2 so sad....

how exactly? if this is a dupe of the teg, it probably came from the same cds that teg got theirs from . stop presumin that a group has to REencode someone elses work, there are more than one copies of the source going around.

and VideoCD didn't do a rls of this. VCDistro did.

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Posted by XCheMiCal on 06-29-2002 10:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo

how exactly? if this is a dupe of the teg, it probably came from the same cds that teg got theirs from . stop presumin that a group has to REencode someone elses work, there are more than one copies of the source going around.

and VideoCD didn't do a rls of this. VCDistro did.

Well I wanted to get the bottom of this so I talk to Teg-vcd people and I talk to the guy who did this. And unless the guys from VcdDistro and ESOTERIC sat next to him they rencoded this shit ask Teg-vcd your self they will back up my version of this story. And did you see ESOTERIC Lame attempt of adding credits at the end of MIB2 why would they do that? If not to hide that they stole this from Teg-vcd just look at the end of ESOTERIC version.

Posted by pHo on 06-29-2002 10:28 AM:

im sorry, but if you think it that any members of Teg or Eso or VCDistro were in any theater recording this, you're mistaken. Teg BOUGHT the discs just like Eso and VCDistro did. TEG were the ones who got it out the fastest thats all. different versions of the same discs. nobody downloaded one release and edited it like you're incinuating. take a holiday to malaysia. you'll have a blast

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Posted by brr8760 on 06-29-2002 10:29 AM:

Definite improvement. Slight audio sync issue, nothing major. THANKS ESO!!!!

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Posted by MovieGod on 06-29-2002 10:43 AM:

Yes I back up what Pho said....most of these "groups" that release their movies but "different versions" of the movie... They don't reencode other peoples works, just doesn't happen...

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Posted by XCheMiCal on 06-29-2002 12:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
im sorry, but if you think it that any members of Teg or Eso or VCDistro were in any theater recording this, you're mistaken. Teg BOUGHT the discs just like Eso and VCDistro did. TEG were the ones who got it out the fastest thats all. different versions of the same discs. nobody downloaded one release and edited it like you're incinuating. take a holiday to malaysia. you'll have a blast

yeah I know thats what happens but thats not what I heard
happen with this release in particular Teg-vcd members told me that one of "their" Providers recorded this him self thats why I brought this up. Like I told you before ask them your self don't take my word for it ask them they will tell you the samething. Thats the only reason I said "without Teg-Vcd VcdDistro nor Eso would have a MIB2". Let me ask you this why would Eso add extra credits at the end of the movie? "from a different movie" and not only that they did such a poor job of tring to pull this off its completly different font in the credits its even has different music it just freezes from the real credits and cuts to this fake ass credits. Just watch the last 40 seconds of Teg-vcd and Eso why would they do this if not to hide the fact that they stole this from Teg-vcd and try to make it seem that they have a different version. I find this so funny and sad and stupid all that the same time.

I wouldn't just start saying shit with out facts I looked at the video and talk to Teg-vcd members. I might be wrong but this is my theory and I think I have some pretty good facts and hard evidence to back it up.

But anyway everyone has there opinion its all good. thats why we have this form in the first place

Posted by dcm386 on 06-29-2002 07:00 PM:

I can almost guarantee that all of the groups just bought the freaking VCD's on the street and then did re-encodes of them. This movie was available on the streets of London (not even Asia OMG!!) like 2 weeks ago, and It looked the exact same as the TEG release.

Posted by pHo on 06-29-2002 09:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by XCheMiCal
yeah I know thats what happens but thats not what I heard
happen with this release in particular Teg-vcd members told me that one of "their" Providers recorded this him self thats why I brought this up.

and their member also added the asian watermark for fun too i imagine ? heh. it came from a pirate vcd silver from asia, like pretty much all the releasees have for the last month. theres about 3 or 4 groups that do their "own" stuff in the scene at the moment, teg / eso / vcdistro aren't any of em. they all got supplied with discs from asia and put em out in their name. its the most common source of TS at the moment, and hence a lot of mislabing as even the ppl putting them out dont always know ! eso might've even got a print with the credits hashed onto the end, doesn't mean they did it themselves.

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Posted by NIN on 06-30-2002 02:12 AM:

Video is great, Sound SUCKS!!!!! Sounds like Im listening from inside a fishtank.

Posted by Groovie Mann on 06-30-2002 04:09 AM:

quote:
hence a lot of mislabing as even the ppl putting them out dont always know ! eso might've even got a print with the credits hashed onto the end, doesn't mean they did it themselves.

Ahhh, Pho, the ever-present voice of reason.

Posted by renegade on 06-30-2002 07:48 AM:

I found this release watchable. Picture was okay considering it was a cam. Audio on the other hand was not good. Had that hollow sound and hiss of a cam. Unless your a die hard fan of this flick, go to the movies or wait for a better release. If you cant wait then this release is watchable.

Posted by reverend on 06-30-2002 09:38 PM:

As with Minority Report, I found this unwatchable due to the poor sound. I thought the picture was okay. I really hope someone comes up with the goods for MIB II and Minority, although right now I don't feel that there is anyone around to deliver.

Posted by TheHolyOne on 07-01-2002 07:08 PM:

eh, not bad, sound sucks.

Posted by m-drew on 07-01-2002 08:50 PM:

AUDIO is terrible.. Really muddy and hard to understand.
VIDEO is decent.

Posted by m-drew on 07-01-2002 08:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by moviebootlegger
i could settle for the video cuz its ok and not blocky much BUT.....................a fuckin dude makin shadow puppets of somthin on cd 2 killed it. and the audio is out of sync throughout the entire movie . was a very nice pic but damn the dude standing up and the sync probs ruined it. im glad i didnt watch the whole thing i jus skimmed through the 2nd cd.

Shadow Puppets where in the movie was this?

Posted by felix-the-cat on 07-01-2002 09:42 PM:

Ending Credits?

Whats with the ending credits in the MIB2 Proper movie? its not even the correct credits LOL, and at the end ppl where standing up in the theatre? I hop they put out a SVCD of this the picture was GREAT, the sound was So So, a few Scratches, but sure no one realy watches the Credits but atleast put the correct credits, it playes 10 seconds of men in black2 credits then switched to something else...

Just Wondering if the next Movie is not badly edited like the end of this one

Posted by m-drew on 07-02-2002 02:38 AM:

Re: Ending Credits?

quote:
Originally posted by felix-the-cat
Whats with the ending credits in the MIB2 Proper movie? its not even the correct credits LOL, and at the end ppl where standing up in the theatre? I hop they put out a SVCD of this the picture was GREAT, the sound was So So, a few Scratches, but sure no one realy watches the Credits but atleast put the correct credits, it playes 10 seconds of men in black2 credits then switched to something else...

Just Wondering if the next Movie is not badly edited like the end of this one

Just checked that! Whats up with the INCORRECT CREDITS?

Posted by oqwarrior on 07-09-2002 03:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by m-drew

Shadow Puppets where in the movie was this?

33 Minutes and 17 Seconds into disc 2 you can see the shadow of someone's head and their hands.

Posted by oqwarrior on 07-09-2002 03:31 AM:

Re: Ending Credits?

quote:
Originally posted by felix-the-cat
Whats with the ending credits in the MIB2 Proper movie? its not even the correct credits LOL, and at the end ppl where standing up in the theatre? I hop they put out a SVCD of this the picture was GREAT, the sound was So So, a few Scratches, but sure no one realy watches the Credits but atleast put the correct credits, it playes 10 seconds of men in black2 credits then switched to something else...

Just Wondering if the next Movie is not badly edited like the end of this one

I saw that too. My guess is that they are from some war movie, because at the end there was a bunch of text that said things like "We would like to thank the United States Air Force for...." etc.

Posted by Mind_Detonator on 07-11-2002 04:53 AM:

not bad!

much better video quality and some sound bugs fixed!
although not all
about the movie... well diferent ppl, diferent opinions
i thinks it could be better!

Posted by 404notfound on 07-11-2002 01:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by oqwarrior

33 Minutes and 17 Seconds into disc 2 you can see the shadow of someone's head and their hands.

Best part of the movie if you ask me

Seriously tho, this release is totaly let down by the audio. Stay away kids.

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Posted by VincentVegaFFF on 07-12-2002 02:52 AM:

The different credits were taken from "The Sum Of All Fears".

Posted by d3llu$ionz on 07-12-2002 10:58 AM:

For those who haven't seen this or want a better copy look for this.

Men.In.Black.II.iNTERNAL.SVCD.TS-TCF

Posted by chrisandcebu on 07-12-2002 11:18 PM:

New release ???

Yes, just came across Men.In.Black.II.iNTERNAL.SVCD.TS-TCF, I wonder if it's for real, and the quality if so. I guess I will soon find out.

Posted by petrocs on 07-13-2002 01:11 AM:

Internal has better audio..not much better but understandable..picture quality is about the same if not a tad better..get that one if u find it

Posted by oqwarrior on 07-13-2002 01:25 AM:

Re: New release ???

quote:
Originally posted by chrisandcebu
Yes, just came across Men.In.Black.II.iNTERNAL.SVCD.TS-TCF, I wonder if it's for real, and the quality if so. I guess I will soon find out.

Let us know if it is real or not and if the quality is decent.

Posted by d3llu$ionz on 07-13-2002 02:34 AM:

I thinking this 07/12/2002 TELESYNC Men In Black II *SVCD* *PROPER* VCDHell is a proper of Men.In.Black.II.iNTERNAL.SVCD.TS-TCF with no credit to them.

So many movies, so little time.

Posted by felix-the-cat on 07-13-2002 04:17 AM:

new release,??

is this so called new release a True SVCD or are they just claiming it is?

No Offence but I dont want 3 copies of men in black flying around my collection unless its TRUE SVCD and Nice quality all together

Posted by aaakkk on 07-13-2002 06:50 PM:

eh, why did they cut the end-credits and add the credits from The Sum Of All Fears ? (looks like those credits anyway

hehe

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Posted by |nSaNe on 07-14-2002 04:21 PM:

Its a shame i got this, and as im not much of a wizz on Coll edit i cant do much with the sound myself.

at some parts during the movie i found it unbearable, but then again i got it for free so i have no place to complain

Posted by Dr. Poo PhD on 08-09-2002 06:14 PM:

This release looked alright from the sample(s), but after d/l and watching on my home theatre system I found it was barely viewable as I couldn't understand half of what was being said and the picture was very blurry druing actions scenes. Anyway, thanks for the release Esoteric as I got exactly from the movie what I wanted...

I'd give this one a 6/5/5.

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