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Posted by me-self on 07-16-2004 09:52 AM:

IRC Button

What is with this IRC button thing?, if people really want there films they will spend time and find them, like what i did!, now you have just really gave them the films, it like saying "right children you have a maths test and here are the answers,?, just don't make sense, i think people should find there films themself, everyone has to start from somewhere like the SUN had to, they found a copy of spiderman 2 and downloaded.
Thats another thing, you will do nothin to the SUN because they download the films, they will say they are just proving a point, they can download the film and not get court be we download the film and it a prison sentence just for one film?

Posted by lorddusty on 07-16-2004 12:18 PM:

The New IRC Button

... scares me to be honest. I know a lot of kiddies now days use xdcc to get their shit but why encourage it?

Posted by F0ur2o on 07-16-2004 01:27 PM:

WTF r u taling about..??

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Posted by Mother on 07-16-2004 01:35 PM:

I don't like it either. There's always been links to search usenet and irc on the release info pages, and there's a section in the FAQ on usenet, which kind of go against vcdq being a news site only.

But I have no idea how much it costs to maintain this site and how much is received in donations, so if having these links goes some way to reducing the deficit than I have no problem with them being there.

Posted by Mystic Slippers on 07-16-2004 01:51 PM:

i don't like it either.

Posted by Mystic Slippers on 07-16-2004 01:54 PM:

Re: IRC Button

quote:
Originally posted by me-self
...everyone has to start from somewhere like the SUN had to...

I wish that was some sort of astrological reference you made there.

If it had been, that would go down in history as one of the funniest (and best) analagy's ever made.

Posted by Rezneck on 07-16-2004 02:42 PM:

not good......not good at all.

Posted by Rezneck on 07-16-2004 02:45 PM:

Re: IRC Button

quote:
Originally posted by me-self
What is with this IRC button thing?, if people really want there films they will spend time and find them, like what i did!, now you have just really gave them the films, it like saying "right children you have a maths test and here are the answers,?, just don't make sense, i think people should find there films themself, everyone has to start from somewhere like the SUN had to, they found a copy of spiderman 2 and downloaded.
Thats another thing, you will do nothin to the SUN because they download the films, they will say they are just proving a point, they can download the film and not get court be we download the film and it a prison sentence just for one film?

you lost me after "i think people should find there films themself"

Posted by CANES1 on 07-16-2004 03:10 PM:

Re: Re: IRC Button

quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Slippers
I wish that was some sort of astrological reference you made there.

If it had been, that would go down in history as one of the funniest (and best) analagy's ever made.

You mean astronomical not astrological. Astrology is what psychics and fortune tellers do.

What does SUN stand for? Stupid something Newbies?

Posted by luckyluke80 on 07-16-2004 03:27 PM:

agree with everyone. now we are going to get even more questions on how to get the movies and use the programs. opens it up now for too many kids.
I don't like it.

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Posted by Gonjeng on 07-16-2004 04:33 PM:

that button is bad!!!

That button is bad news.
It is unnessary.

It probably will legitimize lawsuits.

Not good at all.
Lets newbs figure that themselves.
Let this site be use just for news.

Posted by arJu on 07-16-2004 06:29 PM:

Re: that button is bad!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Gonjeng

It probably will legitimize lawsuits.

you've hit the nail right on the head.

Posted by FirePixie on 07-16-2004 07:37 PM:

Re: Re: Re: IRC Button

quote:
Originally posted by CANES1
What does SUN stand for? Stupid something Newbies?

It's a tabloid newspaper

Posted by [pr] on 07-16-2004 07:54 PM:

it's especially discouraging because no XDCC's are available for Shakin Stevens Video Hits 2

Posted by LOLobo on 07-16-2004 08:01 PM:

I don't like the button, however I do use IRC (and likely xdcc sometimes), but I don't usually use these search engines. So fuck me for not liking it I won't use it.

Posted by BHX on 07-16-2004 08:55 PM:

I personally don't see it as a good idea, it just basically tells every Tom, Dick and Harry where to get the goods and brings unwanted heat onto everyone.

And if it is to stay I feel that this should be removed from the site as it will no longer be relivant:

quote:

This is a release news site only. It is impossible to download anything except jpeg samples from this site. Please DO NOT e-mail me asking where/how to download/buy anything mentioned on this site. Thanks -X69

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Posted by aer0x on 07-16-2004 09:44 PM:

as some members said i think in this case people should search 4 themselves. something like this... i just think kazaa and what the simplicity of it have done...

and yes,i realise the differences, but ...

Posted by dad2 on 07-16-2004 09:56 PM:

i also agree with u bhx not a good idea to have that button hopefully gets removed soon

Posted by bryehn on 07-16-2004 10:30 PM:

that's one fuckin bad idea right there.

has the site been taken over by the feds trying to entrap people, or what?

BAD IDEA!!!

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Posted by NewbieSnipa on 07-16-2004 10:52 PM:

I can see the Newbie section filling up now "What does queue mean??!!?11?"

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Posted by BHX on 07-16-2004 10:56 PM:

Exactly I mean I bet any amount of money that the TS/FACT/FBI, whichever set of people you want to talk about, know about this site and the trading forums that people sell the stuff on. So adding the IRC servers/channels where you can get the stuff just means that they know EXACTLY where people are getting the material from, can track down the sources and bust as many people as they can bash out warrants.

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Posted by dopeuser8 on 07-16-2004 11:46 PM:

bad idea

just wanted to add another vote AGAINST the irc button.
its bad for irc and this webpage. 'conspiracy to distribute intellectual property' or something like that, Im sure you get the basic idea...

Posted by golferguy16 on 07-17-2004 12:27 AM:

just keep it up temporarily.

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Posted by g30 on 07-17-2004 01:18 AM:

I agree 100% with peoples, its a bad idea. I remember when i started off it took a lot of searching and learning to get the movies i wanted which made me appreciate the scene. Now kiddies can come on here click a link and know exactly where to find movies. (and a whole lot of other things)....

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Posted by semaj8686 on 07-17-2004 07:07 AM:

Im lost... BUTTON???? Maybe PHO could make a button that bans you...

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 07-17-2004 03:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by NewbieSnipa
I can see the Newbie section filling up now "What does queue mean??!!?11?"

Do you need someone to answer that for you?

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Posted by SToNERUK on 07-17-2004 04:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by semaj8686
Im lost... BUTTON???? Maybe PHO could make a button that bans you...

U need ur eyes tested.

IRC button is a bad idea.

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Posted by psychoace on 07-17-2004 08:15 PM:

I would think with all these disagreements that pho or whoever would pull the plug on the idea. Your going to get a lot of shit from Motion Picture production companys yeah it might provide a nice little check for you every month but the lawsuits are going to suck that out real quickly. Remember you guys are a huge site that was promoted on 60 fuckin minutes you have a pretty decent ranking on alexa.com your going to get shit from this sooner or later. Web sites go down because of this shit. N00b's get there links from lame sites or kazaa not from well established information sites like this. I hope you guys make the right decision for your future

Posted by hamsterboi on 07-17-2004 08:26 PM:

It's a bad "new feature". This was supposed to be a site where you searched for latest releases, not some kiddie site. If someone has to use that button to know how to download, they really shouldn't be here.

BTW, it's broken. It's adding (b)(/b) html tags at the end.

Posted by kalvaitis007 on 07-17-2004 11:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by psychoace
I would think with all these disagreements that pho or whoever would pull the plug on the idea.

The staff doesn't own the site. Or pay the bill for that matter. As far as I'm concerned, decisions made by x69 are his to make with or without anyone else's input. He's a big boy and he can live with whatever the results are. Which could run anywhere from legal troubles to having to listen to people bitch, for days, about the same thing....

I'd suggest you women shut up about this already. Particularly annoying is the "IRC is for kids" you guys keep repeating. We got it the first time. People that aren't blessed should all bow before your valuable friggin' skill.

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Posted by kap0n3 on 07-17-2004 11:22 PM:

i dont understand why ppl care about the button but i will say that IRC users are probably the majority of the users of vcdq and if that keeps em here instead of going to other sites to hit that same button then X69 is on the right track

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Posted by horizonstar on 07-18-2004 01:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BHX
Exactly I mean I bet any amount of money that the TS/FACT/FBI, whichever set of people you want to talk about, know about this site and the trading forums that people sell the stuff on. So adding the IRC servers/channels where you can get the stuff just means that they know EXACTLY where people are getting the material from, can track down the sources and bust as many people as they can bash out warrants.

Heh ... you say all that as if it's a bad thing.

The more people getting busted in p2p arenas, the better the scene becomes.

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Posted by psychoace on 07-18-2004 02:03 AM:

I will miss this site when it gets flooded with lawsuits

Posted by ^Om3n on 07-18-2004 02:38 AM:

I dont like it at all, but as a few others have said its x69's site and he can do as he wishes, he is a business man, he is going to do what is best for his interests.

Having said that i personally wouldn't have thought, after all the previous attention for authorities and/or companies, that it would never have happened. Also, this site has always maintained a 'news only' stance, which i think pretty much goes out the window with even more added link pointing you to exactly where to find something. Although, on the other hand, even an xdcc search site can hold that 'news only' stance...

The reason it doesn't appeal to me is because this site will become a portal for xdcc leechers, people will come here because it will both inform them of the new releases AND tell them where to get it, which no other sites will do (im guessing this is part if not the majority of the reason it was done, traffic generation), but to get back to my point. I really hope the forum, ratings and comments side of the site do not go to shit because of it. There is little to no doubt that the level of users asking stupid questions that do not belong here will rise noticably in the not so distant future.

Ps. it is my understanding that x69 also runs the xdcc search site itself ?

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Posted by G-Unit on 07-18-2004 04:06 AM:

Re: IRC Button

quote:
Originally posted by me-self
What is with this IRC button thing?, if people really want there films they will spend time and find them, like what i did!, now you have just really gave them the films, it like saying "right children you have a maths test and here are the answers,?, just don't make sense, i think people should find there films themself, everyone has to start from somewhere like the SUN had to, they found a copy of spiderman 2 and downloaded.
Thats another thing, you will do nothin to the SUN because they download the films, they will say they are just proving a point, they can download the film and not get court be we download the film and it a prison sentence just for one film?

/me pops some advil and grinds it into powder

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Posted by kalvaitis007 on 07-18-2004 05:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ^Om3n
Also, this site has always maintained a 'news only' stance, which i think pretty much goes out the window with even more added link pointing you to exactly where to find something.

Yes, as opposed to the complicated task of having to navigate two windows open at the same time, I guess.

It seems to me, a lot of people (not you, O) are bitching because they think they're so much better than any lowly dog that dares use IRC. That's all fine and well, but if you people didn't notice we already have a HUGE supply of idiots on this forum. The fear that legions of IRC kids will flood the forum is a bit....well....late.

NEWS FLASH: The idiots have landed....almost 2 years ago.

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Posted by ^Om3n on 07-18-2004 05:42 PM:

Heh, very true. And almost everybody will use irc and xdcc at one point, or at least try. NOBODY can find EVERYTHING without having to browse through a few of their less prefered mediums.

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Posted by |nZer0 on 07-18-2004 07:00 PM:

Please take away the IRC button.

I havnt posted in ages and this is a huge concern to me. Dont post the button....PLEASE dont post the button!

Posted by punzada on 07-18-2004 07:12 PM:

Alright, that has to be one BIG ASS check for this to seem like any type of a good idea, this is very discouraging seeing that, the only thing it's really going to do is bring more attention to the nastier side of things, I really don't agree with this but if it's what X69 has to do to keep things afloat right now, he has my blessing, can't argue with the man that pays the bills.

Posted by JoE_DaDdY on 07-18-2004 08:00 PM:

its not like they already didnt have a link to ircspy or xdccspy, just click on the release title like "I Robot *INTERNAL* *SVCD* - TELESYNC - POT" Link to it HERE . Scroll down and you will see Search IRC area with xdccspy and ircspy . This is just making it a lil easier for people i guess. Also another note it that it does not lead you to finding that particular release by POT, it does a search for "I, Robot" and not
"I Robot *INTERNAL* *SVCD* - TELESYNC - POT", so you will get the results of all group release and reencoded avi of I, Robot. And before the sight went down the ircspy and xdccspy links worked, but now they point to vcdreview.com, guess you guys need to fix

And yes i am an avid irc user, and i love using it and have been for 3 years.

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Posted by XTASY-Jones on 07-18-2004 09:43 PM:

Ahhh, That's just the way of the world. Alot of things have gotten easier for ppl to do when it comes to the arena of PC's. It's funny though, bcos I had a little lesson from one sticky here that told me everything I needed to know. I guess alot of ppl arent willing to read one page on how to find what they're looking for. I hope it helps the right person.

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Posted by Debo on 07-19-2004 05:13 AM:

its a bad idea but if its necessary then whatever

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Posted by CANES1 on 07-19-2004 08:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoE_DaDdY
its not like they already didnt have a link to ircspy or xdccspy, just click on the release title like "I Robot *INTERNAL* *SVCD* - TELESYNC - POT" Link to it HERE . Scroll down and you will see Search IRC area with xdccspy and ircspy . This is just making it a lil easier for people i guess. Also another note it that it does not lead you to finding that particular release by POT, it does a search for "I, Robot" and not
"I Robot *INTERNAL* *SVCD* - TELESYNC - POT", so you will get the results of all group release and reencoded avi of I, Robot. And before the sight went down the ircspy and xdccspy links worked, but now they point to vcdreview.com, guess you guys need to fix

And yes i am an avid irc user, and i love using it and have been for 3 years.

This guy is absolutely right! Which means you guys are basicly bitching about 1 LESS PRESS of the left mouse button. Doesn't that make you feel pretty stupid?

This also renders any argument about the ramafications of links to IRC on this site MOOT since the links on the release info page have been there for forever. Which means this thread is completely and utterly pointless.

This whole thread should go into the hall of shame (except my and JoE_DaDdY's posts of course).

Anyways, even if the MPAA (or whoever) found some reason to bust this site, would it put even a dent in the scene? NO! They have bigger fish to fry than this site.

I think the weakest link of this site as far as it getting busted is the jpeg samples. I'm sure the MPAA's lawyers could twist the law around to make them as illegal as the releases themselves. But as I said before, the MPAA (or whoever) doesn't care about this site.

Posted by ^Om3n on 07-19-2004 04:39 PM:

The difference is simple, while the links have always been there. They were somewhat hidden from the majority of visitors as most would not bother to click a release link in the first place... even i dont bother with that. And out of the minority that actually go to the release page, how many of them actually pay attention to and/or use the links at the bottom? very few i'd say.

Only reason it is not something i personally agree with is simple. As stated before. Is because with it slapped right in front of your face i fear that the community side of the website will even more cluttered with bs.

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Posted by desertboy on 07-20-2004 11:31 AM:

I think this IRC button is a bad thing. One connection closer to the warez scene. Although itr's not illegal it's putting VCDQuality on even shadier ground, it's also getting more 13 year warez kiddies who've found vcdquality onto irc (More god damn queues for me and it was only just starting to get better because of bittorrent.)

Putting it on the front page is just bringing attention to it. Personally I prefer if they removed the link to xdccspy altogether.

I always use the other big irc search engine.

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Posted by horizonstar on 07-20-2004 09:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
it's also getting more 13 year warez kiddies who've found vcdquality onto irc (More god damn queues for me

This sounds fine to me. I don't shed any tears for IRC leechers.

quote:
and it was only just starting to get better because of bittorrent.)

Remember, unlike IRC, the more people who use BitTorrent for a particular file, the *better* your download speeds become.

quote:
Personally I prefer if they removed the link to xdccspy altogether.

Me too ... you can help the site do this by donating on the main page.

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Posted by Madmax on 07-22-2004 12:11 PM:

IRC sucks arse anyway, go and wait in que..if you can even get on a que. bitorrent isnt much better..its all GAY!!

Posted by Comedy on 07-22-2004 01:15 PM:

Re: Re: Re: IRC Button

quote:
Originally posted by CANES1

quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Slippers
I wish that was some sort of astrological reference you made there.

If it had been, that would go down in history as one of the funniest (and best) analagy's ever made.

You mean astronomical not astrological. Astrology is what psychics and fortune tellers do.

What does SUN stand for? Stupid something Newbies?

lol

Posted by Red0ut on 07-22-2004 07:59 PM:

yup i also think it is a bad idea. mainly because for most people that use irc already it will take a little bit longer for them to get the stuff they want, and it will allow little retards to just click there way to the good stuff. sure it makes it easy to use for people that don't know what they are doing, but just because it is easy to use doesn't make it a good method. also it opens up the irc underground much more, and no one wants this kind of stupid attention. anyway this post can get as long as possible i don't think the webmaster of vcdquality really cares about his users. i do hope this button crap is temporary.

Posted by whilE on 07-24-2004 06:43 PM:

Re: IRC Button

quote:
Originally posted by me-self
What is with this IRC button thing?, if people really want there films they will spend time and find them, like what i did!, now you have just really gave them the films, it like saying "right children you have a maths test and here are the answers,?, just don't make sense, i think people should find there films themself, everyone has to start from somewhere like the SUN had to, they found a copy of spiderman 2 and downloaded.
Thats another thing, you will do nothin to the SUN because they download the films, they will say they are just proving a point, they can download the film and not get court be we download the film and it a prison sentence just for one film?

This is a really pointless argument, posts like these are wet dreams for lawyers. I'll equate this to 'Look ma, dat der is da enterweb, click here and you can download dady's arrest record'.

IRC is a communication tool, just like the internet it self. You do remember how the internet came to be right? Who could have known as soon as some horny kids figured out they could draw a boobie using text it would turn into a pornographic mass distribution system?

Blaming IRC for a few naferious networks is juvenile at best.

Posted by lightlord on 07-30-2004 01:54 AM:

hmmm love the button...never seen something like it..its like a big sign to the feds CLOSE ME DOWN..like isonews :P

Get rid of it..this is a bad turn of events...slap your self for even thinking of it...

Posted by hamsterboi on 07-30-2004 09:17 AM:

Over and done with. Thanks x69

Posted by pHo on 07-30-2004 05:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lightlord
its like a big sign to the feds CLOSE ME DOWN..like isonews :P

i'm not sure if thats a joke or just the most retarded thing ever written. i'd love for you to explain it fully, but alas. i don't care.

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