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Connecting the pc to my lcd tv
Ok i got a 1tb hdd coming filled with hd and blue ray rips to test
I don't want to watch em on my pc screen as it's too small and same for the lappy and now for my specs
Here's my tv
http://electronics.pricegrabber.co....tured/sv=title/
My old dell pc is a dell dimension 8400 specs here
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/7039...ml#latestPrices
Do i need a video card for this so it will work on my tv, i just tested it for a laugh with the normal vga lead to the tv and it fits but no picture, been a while since i messed with a pc and not up to scratch on my knowledge so thought i'd ask here so any ideas????
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Go into the computer vidoe card properties and setup the tv as a second monitor. Clone (shows the same on both screen) seems to work best for me.
My Video card is the Radeon x800SE, will give it a shot now and report back
Cheers candyman 
Input terminals-Video-PC/AV Digital: DVI-D(24pin) HDCP compatible [DVI1.0]
Input terminals-Video-PC Analog: RGB (mini D-Sub 15 pin),RGB (BNC x 5)*1*2*3
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Just retried it mate and still the same, i updated the video card up to the latest version and still the same.
Every time i try to activate the 2nd monitor and apply it goes back to greyed out 
Display Properties in Your PC set to Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor and checked i check this as well and when i hit apply then it automatically unticks itself.
Only thing i can think is the card is no good for the tv 
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Your computer doesn't have s-video (i think it is...) to component?
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Using the VGA cable, you must set your PC's screen resolution to one of the following:
VGA 640 x 480 60 Hz
SVGA 800 x 600 60 Hz
XGA 1024 x 768 60 Hz
WXGA 1360 x 768 60 Hz
SXGA 1280 x 1024 60 Hz
Or you could use a DVI to HDMI cable, which would let you select 720p/1080p outputs.
Either way, you will need a separate cable for the audio.
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Originally posted by Mother
Using the VGA cable, you must set your PC's screen resolution to one of the following:
VGA 640 x 480 60 Hz
SVGA 800 x 600 60 Hz
XGA 1024 x 768 60 Hz
WXGA 1360 x 768 60 Hz
SXGA 1280 x 1024 60 Hz
Or you could use a DVI to HDMI cable, which would let you select 720p/1080p outputs.
Either way, you will need a separate cable for the audio.
Hi guys, thanks for the reply's and this a handy post due to people moving up to using there tv's rather than another monitor in the room.
All i wanted to do is surf the net and fiddling with programs chatting on irc and watching blue ray and hd films and see if it's worth moving up to blue ray standalone and using the hdd to watch the rips till it becomes as easy to do what happens with normal dvd.
My card wont let me go down below 800 x 600 so that means i need a SVGA 800 x 600 60 Hz that mother listed or go up 1 to XGA 1024 x 768 60 Hz which i dont have a clue about.
Maybe time to upgrade the video card soon then to a HDMI/DVI so any good cards you can suggest for this with my spec base unit which is
pent 4 3000
3gb ram
Radeon x800 se
win xp with service pack 3
1 question is can i use a svga lead on my base unit to the tv till i have the money to upgrade the car?
Again thanks for the help guys much appreciated 
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Would this cable work ok for me for the video and i can get a audio cable from the guy which would save postage
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....4102b80fffdc90b
It only be temp till i can sort out a new video card in the jan sales then i don't mind spending a bit extra for the quality speciallly with the new blue ray and hd films and hopefully the tv series 
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Originally posted by Ripper
Would this cable work ok for me for the video and i can get a audio cable from the guy which would save postage
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....4102b80fffdc90b
It only be temp till i can sort out a new video card in the jan sales then i don't mind spending a bit extra for the quality speciallly with the new blue ray and hd films and hopefully the tv series![]()
I've had a similar problem with my X880SE as well Ripper... My monitor is DSub only (but a decent monitor nonetheless) so I used a DVI>HDMI converter to the TV and DSub for the monitor and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get output to both of them in a satisfactory way - I wanted the TV to work in theatre mode over DVI/HDMI and it was having none of it.
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Originally posted by Neversoft
I've had a similar problem with my X880SE as well Ripper... My monitor is DSub only (but a decent monitor nonetheless) so I used a DVI>HDMI converter to the TV and DSub for the monitor and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get output to both of them in a satisfactory way - I wanted the TV to work in theatre mode over DVI/HDMI and it was having none of it.
I'm using a 15" monitor flat screen and i have these display setting available on my card on the monitor
800 x 600
1024 x 768
1152 x 864
1280 x 720
1280 x 768
1280 x 800
1280 x 960
1280 x 1024
Here's some pics and review of my card this may help you help me find the solution for my tv issue also what connections the card has at the back etc
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/20...02/msi_x800se/1
The back plate features the standard connections on a single slot blanking plate – much like all of ATI’s X800 series video cards. There’s the usual D-Sub, TV-Out and DVI-I connectors to allow for a wide range of display outputs – the bundle also includes a DVI-I to VGA converter for those of you who are running two analogue monitors. Along with the DVI-I to VGA converter, there’s a wide selection of cables and connectors for the TV-Out connector, including an RCA composite cable, an S-Video cable, a 7-pin S-Video to HDTV cable and an S-Video to Composite adapter.
Can i just use the xga to svga (tv to dell pc) for now with the audio cable temp till the jan sales ?
Thanks for the reply's guys 
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Or can get 1 of these if i get the nod from you lot, would it fit the dell unit with 3gb memory
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1GB-ATi-Radeo...parms=72%3A1301|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Originally posted by Ripper
Can i just use the xga to svga (tv to dell pc) for now with the audio cable temp till the jan sales ?
Thanks for the reply's guys![]()
Hey dude(para)
So what you are saying is,,,,,,,,, if my videocard ahs that dvi thingy output.........
I get that cable and adapter and i dont need no tvcard?
more info for a noob
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I have my PC set up with the main monitor connected via analogue VGA connections, and when I want to watch something in HD I connect up the LCD TV with a DVI to HDMI cable.
I have an ATI card, and yes, the Catalyst Control Centre is a bitch to set up how you want it. I did eventually, after a lot of fiddling, get Theater Mode working correctly - MPC showing the video windowed on the monitor, and fullscreen on the TV.
*sits in the corner and waits for Mother to explain in English*
I have a pc and a hd
what do i need, do to accomplish this?
as in, leads, cards, adapters
I think, going by what I have read, If I get that dvi lead and run it from my video card, put the adapter on the end, then connect thru hdmi?
yes?
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quote:The easiest way to explain this. Maybe mother can help me simplify it, cause it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to set up if you know nothing about this.
Originally posted by yoshy
*sits in the corner and waits for Mother to explain in English*
I have a pc and a hd
what do i need, do to accomplish this?
as in, leads, cards, adapters
I think, going by what I have read, If I get that dvi lead and run it from my video card, put the adapter on the end, then connect thru hdmi?
yes?
So if i get what your saying correctly now is the following:
I plug in the dvi adapter into the video card and hook the cable up to the tv , then i turn the pc on with my 15" monitor and go into the display settings and add the tv to the video card as say secondary tv am i getting close 
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I got it...........thanks
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Originally posted by Ripper
So if i get what your saying correctly now is the following:
I plug in the dvi adapter into the video card and hook the cable up to the tv , then i turn the pc on with my 15" monitor and go into the display settings and add the tv to the video card as say secondary tv am i getting close![]()
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Originally posted by parasiticgannon
Pretty much bro, Once you get back there and look at things, it'll just make since.
You'll probably want to use the DVI to HDMI adapter which I posted a link to it through amazon. Just plug it in, it's that simple then go to the display settings and extend desktop to the tv, and you've done it.
I have noticed with some file types you have to set up the TV as the primary monitor, or in your video box it will remain black.
Just get behind there and fuck with things dude. That's all you have to do, you'll figure it out.

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Or the other lead i was looking at is this
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=48585
Direct so cable already attached and no loose connection what you think 
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No you won't. Text still looks like shit, Not nearly good enough. So you'll still be using your monitor for regular computer stuff.
This my v/card Which one is the dvi?
the one that has lcd stamped next to it?
the one lowest in the picture
the first one goes to my monitor, middle is s video out and bottom is?
pic didn't work
g force 5200
# VGA output: D-Sub
# TV-out connector: S-video out
# DVI connector
they are my outputs
at the moment im presuming my pc monitor is in the vga output one
so the other rectangle one is my dvi
cheers for that
:: this one
but mine says vcd not dvi but im presuming that's it
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There comes a point in your life when you realise;
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who won't any more...
and who always will.
So, don't worry about people from your past,
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Originally posted by yoshy
This my v/card Which one is the dvi?
the one that has lcd stamped next to it?
the one lowest in the picture
the first one goes to my monitor, middle is s video out and bottom is?
pic didn't work
g force 5200
# VGA output: D-Sub
# TV-out connector: S-video out
# DVI connector
they are my outputs
at the moment im presuming my pc monitor is in the vga output one
so the other rectangle one is my dvi
cheers for that
:: this one
but mine says vcd not dvi but im presuming that's it
Ok today i bloody done it and am currnetly using my lcd tv typing this and had a few little issues but nothing magor i just dumped the little 15" off the settings as i couldnt be assed cloning due to the mouse moving from 1 screen to another,
The only issue left is i have no sound even though i got a jack for it and is plugged in, only thing i can think of is the tv setting which i'm gonna do now
Yoshy the adapter is a must as well as a good hdmi lead (mine was £60.00)
My card dosent have a jack port for the audio so tryin to use it through my motherboard or the sound blaster card i have in my dell
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Righty ho got the audio to work i had to change the settings on the tv and switch it from digital and use analogue
Tested it with nero music player and was choppy as hell, now using windows media 11 and got it blasting love the bonkers hardcore
Thanks for all the help guys and any help needed give me a shout that includes you yoshy
1 last thing the pic is real good for surfing and can read off the tv no probs, and playing dvds from the dvd rom just waiting for the hdd to turn up then blue ray hd films here i come 
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quote:
Originally posted by yoshy
This my v/card Which one is the dvi?
the one that has lcd stamped next to it?
the one lowest in the picture
the first one goes to my monitor, middle is s video out and bottom is?
pic didn't work
g force 5200
# VGA output: D-Sub
# TV-out connector: S-video out
# DVI connector
they are my outputs
at the moment im presuming my pc monitor is in the vga output one
so the other rectangle one is my dvi
cheers for that
:: this one
but mine says vcd not dvi but im presuming that's it

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quote:
Originally posted by Ripper
Yoshy that is a dvi plug mate (click on paras link on this page to amazon to see the adapter) you need the adapter for it along with the hdmi lead to plug in and then just an audio lead, you may have to switch it on your tv from digital to analogue though.
Mines running nice pic and sound, i got media player playing in the background and typing this on the 46" lcd so it does work![]()
quote:£60? They saw you coming.
Originally posted by Ripper
... a good hdmi lead (mine was £60.00)
quote:
Originally posted by Mother
£60? They saw you coming.
Here's one for £2:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/p...p?SKU=AV1361632


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Heres a pic from my mobile, i cant find the cable for the digital camera, will post a nice 7mb pic when i find it
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Sorry pic was crap here's better 1, and couldn't delete post above
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Heres another with the unit and tv on and surfing redtube
Pics are crap compaired to the digital version but the phone camera is only 3vmega pixel
Also botttom right is a dvd for scale

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Originally posted by Ripper
I said it was worth £60 mother a friend got it for me for £10![]()
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Pic and text is amazing mate and sound is good too, thanks for your input though mother.
I think so yes mate, it's down to how it is made and the quality control
I just posted a link where you can get 1 for £29.99 that retails for £69.99 and comes with lifetime warrenty.
Maybe thats why Neversoft had problems using his and why some say the text is crap on the tv, i pulled my 15" out and is now in my sons room for when i slap him together a surfing pc.
Hell of a differance beween a 15" and 46" porn is amazing whilst streamed and irc is good too, didnt hit the sack til 7am today as was playin online and that, think of this pc games on massive screen and it's connected to the net so on line play is easy 
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quote:HDMI cables? No, The only thing you wanna make sure of is shielding. That's a big one.
Originally posted by Gimp Mask
Does an expensive cable make a difference to hdmi?, i thought it's either off or on, unlike the signal through scart where a good cable makes a difference.
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Originally posted by parasiticgannon
HDMI cables? No, The only thing you wanna make sure of is shielding. That's a big one.
As far as picture quality goes, not one bit of a difference, Digital in means digital out. No loss of quality.
I have two different types of cables, One great DVI cable, and one HDMI cable, text looks the same. It looks significantly better when in 720p compared to 1080i, I think the interlaced makes a difference.
Ripper are you running everything in 1080p/i?
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Originally posted by Ripper
I'm not sure para mate to be honest there's nothing on the catalysts settings on video card etc to say what it is running at, is there a site i can use to check graphics online, or something i can use to check, i have a .ru web based site i can grab summin from but the info is on the lappy and is down my bro's place till next week
The cable i'm using does look like good quality though and is thick as hell and had to bend it a bit when i got it out of the pack
Will check on that and get back to you regarding the resolution on t.v
As for the quality loss, i was thinking way of thin cables bending and crimping the wires inside with moving things around catching em, cables coming loose with poor quality connections etc
Saying that if there wasn't any difference with cables why such the big price difference as i am sure a lot of people would go say £20 for a cable rather than £70 not just mugs 
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Originally posted by Ripper
Will check on that and get back to you regarding the resolution on t.v
As for the quality loss, i was thinking way of thin cables bending and crimping the wires inside with moving things around catching em, cables coming loose with poor quality connections etc
Saying that if there wasn't any difference with cables why such the big price difference as i am sure a lot of people would go say £20 for a cable rather than £70 not just mugs![]()
No probs para you, mother etc got me sorted so i will take your word for it, don't the 24k mean anything either then lol
Ok my resolution is 1920 x 1080 /60 hz
So i am assuming i'm on 1080 hdmi?
Pic is fine and no probs except earlier osh posted an attached nfo i couldn't see, think it was the tropic thunder tc post or eagle eye 1 of em anyways
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quote:I think it has to do with the shielding.
Originally posted by Ripper
No probs para you, mother etc got me sorted so i will take your word for it, don't the 24k mean anything either then lol
Ok my resolution is 1920 x 1080 /60 hz
So i am assuming i'm on 1080 hdmi?
Pic is fine and no probs except earlier osh posted an attached nfo i couldn't see, think it was the tropic thunder tc post or eagle eye 1 of em anyways
Ahh good good, so my tv is running in high def 1080 then 
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quote:
Originally posted by Ripper
Ahh good good, so my tv is running in high def 1080 then![]()
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Originally posted by parasiticgannon
Nope sorry about your luck bro, it's running at 480p, LOL.
yeah it's running at 1080 but is it running at 1080i/p?

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RTFM 
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Originally posted by Neversoft
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Originally posted by Neversoft
RTFM![]()
Reading the manual is rather important in this case. How many of us have HDTV's? How many of us have the same Model? or even the same Brand?
We can help with some of the basics but as far as features go on the TV we can't help with specifics.
I was eager to help Ripper with hooking his pc up to his tv, Most of that isn't going to be in the manual and how to do it, The manual will only be very basic.
So Ripper read the fuckin manual you lazy bastard
quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
Reading the manual is rather important in this case. How many of us have HDTV's? How many of us have the same Model? or even the same Brand?
We can help with some of the basics but as far as features go on the TV we can't help with specifics.
I was eager to help Ripper with hooking his pc up to his tv, Most of that isn't going to be in the manual and how to do it, The manual will only be very basic.
So Ripper read the fuckin manual you lazy bastard![]()

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Originally posted by Gimp Mask
RTFM
I'm not racist but Critics say that frequent users of the phrase (or similar variants) are simply expressing elitism, and that their attitude drives away newcomers without helping them. Their time could better be spent adding the question and answer to a FAQ, pointing the user to a helpful website, or simply not responding. They point out that RTFM is often used when it is not even clear which manual their correspondent should be reading. One of the most frequent criticisms of the open source community is lack of friendly support for newcomers. The Ubuntu Forums and LinuxQuestions.org, for instance, have instituted "no RTFM" policies to promote a welcoming atmosphere.
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There comes a point in your life when you realise;
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