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Posted by X69 on 08-02-2005 02:33 AM:


IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ

1 NO REQUESTING MOVIES OR SAMPLES (THIS INCLUDES REQUESTS FOR OTHER GROUPS TO RELEASE THIS FILM!)

2 DO NOT DISCUSS WHERE TO DOWNLOAD MOVIES OR SAMPLES

3 NO FLAMING

4 NO "SPOILERS"

5 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE ONLY (AND ONLY IF YOU'VE SEEN IT). THIS IS THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THE THREAD!

6 NO "NOOB" QUESTIONS SUCH AS "HOW DO I WATCH THIS?" ASK IN THE APPROPRIATE PART OF THE FORUM

7 NO DISCUSSING TRADING/SELLING. IF YOU SELL COPIES, GO AWAY YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE


*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE RULES WILL BE BANNED ***


Posted by latinchulovip on 08-02-2005 02:59 AM:

I love this new group.

Video:7 Video looks blurred out
Audio:8 Audio is perfect
Movie:7 I liked the movie


Posted by ManifestDestiny on 08-02-2005 03:09 AM:

8/8/?

judging by the sample, the quality is pretty nice for a tc


Posted by cactus-jack on 08-02-2005 03:11 AM:

pretty good movie. this looks to b 2.35 instead of the 1.85 other release

8
8
8


Posted by b20vtecallmota on 08-02-2005 03:34 AM:

cd3 of this file is currupt and unexpected of of file.does anybody know where i can get cd3 other than that it get's a 8/7.5/8


Posted by F*ckthis on 08-02-2005 04:14 AM:

::EDIT:: Stop asking the same question in every bloody thread and search the forum (or be banned) - Neversoft::


Posted by vcd101 on 08-02-2005 04:16 AM:

nice job prodigy!!!! keep them coming
vid:7 a little washed
aud:8 get this copy boys and girls very nice!!


Posted by Neversoft on 08-02-2005 04:24 AM:

Thank fuck I never got around to watching the TS

Superb quality. Prodigy, I want to have deep, meaningful sex with all of you!

V - 8
A - 8
M - ?


Posted by ryan- on 08-02-2005 07:25 AM:

mmk, from the xvid of this release.... 8/9/7
the video on the ts was slightly cropped on the left side (u can notice at the beginning with the words intro thing), but this one fixes that issue. its a little lighter than the other (the ts is dark), and i think the audio is SLIIIIIIIGHTLY clearer... the colors are a little more vibrant and is overall a great release. props prodigy i love the speed on the releases, hopefully its not just for this movie.


Posted by dart31 on 08-02-2005 07:27 AM:

ts or tc that is the question

It looks like a cleaned up ts to me but here is my judging on a tc

v:7.5
a:7
m: don't know yet

ps better than nothing

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Posted by screamq3 on 08-02-2005 07:38 AM:

this new group is getting to be my fav keep them coming PRODiGY, great release

8/7/?


Posted by sheezee on 08-02-2005 08:30 AM:

This is as good as Ive seen in a minute pic is clean and direct audio makes it a surround sound joy!!!!


Vid-8
Sound-9
Prodigy Keep it UP Don't Fall Off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by crudman on 08-02-2005 09:10 AM:

haahhahahahahahah

quote:
Originally posted by b20vtecallmota
[B]cd3 of this file is currupt and unexpected of of file.


hahaahahahaha you total n00b.

I'll bet you anything that you are using the 3 year old winrar 3.00 or at least one thats before 3.30 final.

Thats why cd3 is corrupt.


Posted by mattmatt02 on 08-02-2005 10:26 AM:

i knew something better would soon be here good job i didnt get the full rls of the ts. this is quite a fine tc:

8.5/9.5/?

damn, these guys are smooth!


Posted by Dodgy Del on 08-02-2005 10:33 AM:

Thumbs up

excellent release as far as a TELECINE goes . this is the one to get!!! if your thinking on what one to grab then don't.get this one as its the bees knees

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Posted by notgnihsaw420 on 08-02-2005 10:56 AM:

video and audio so good make me wanna smack my bitch up



8

8

-1


from russia with love...

thanks prodigy...

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Posted by snozzler29 on 08-02-2005 11:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by b20vtecallmota
cd3 of this file is currupt and unexpected of of file.does anybody know where i can get cd3 other than that it get's a 8/7.5/8


yeah let me open a ftp up for you man

heres the link

ftp://YoUfuckin:iDiot@999999999:3386

anyway

movie 7

audio 8

movie 7


Posted by fluffinator on 08-02-2005 12:18 PM:

open your eyes, this is a TC, and there is nothing picture wise to lead anyone to assume otherwise.

7/7/.***

***finally got around to watching all of this. Is it possible to give a review in the negatives? like -5

I think I actually lost braincells and IQ points watching this stinker.

Video is a tad bit grainy and washed out, leaving a faint blurr effect.

Sound could be cleaned up TS audio, can't really tell, fits the release, didn't notice any sync issues.

Really, the only issue I had with this release was.

IT'S FUCKING PAL!!!!!!!

God fucking damnit. Really, I can deal with only watching this crispy TC on my tv-out, but for the love of god groups, PUT INFO IN YOUR NFO!

WTF is a point to an "nfo" which is supposedly stating encode settings, release qualirt settings, etc, if you aren't gonna tell people it's PAL!

It's a great release none-tha-less. But for all you saps that wasted blank discs and couldn't figure out why it either doesn't play, or plays all chopped to hell and outta sync on your stand alone, theres your answer.

I'm amazed no one else caught the fact that it's PAL. One can only assume the xvid will be from a PAL source.

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Posted by shaunaldo on 08-02-2005 12:42 PM:

so what if its pal/ntsc most dvd players and tvs play both formats these days! imo pal is a better format for films than ntsc!

great film will be great on official dvd

nice sound and pic!


Posted by jrw on 08-02-2005 01:50 PM:

Video 7
Audio 8
Movie http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/stealth/


Posted by pvt_klaas on 08-02-2005 02:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ManifestDestiny
8/8/?

judging by the sample, the quality is pretty nice for a tc



ermmm, how can you say THAT? It looks like a good TS. Think it is made with one of those cheap TC-machines. The ones where you use a camcorder to film the filmrols...They can can be found for $300-1000.
Anyway...
Video bit blurry, audio is fine for me but the movie itself sucked...
Condsidering this is labeled TC and that this group is new in th scene (wich I admire)

7/7,5/4

Keep up the good work, owja spend some time in a nice Nfo and logo


Posted by Airhead on 08-02-2005 03:04 PM:

meh ...

previous TS the left side was missing as mentioned, the TC the top half is missing ... way overcropped.

Also as mentioned by others this copy is hella blurry compaired to their TS. Most noticeable when you compair the opening words and credits to their TS. I thought TC's were suppost to be crisp ..

TS - Missing left side , dark scenes are hella dark
8/8/4

TC - Overcropped , more blurry and grainy then their TS
6/8/4

So funny to watch people jump group to group saying "PRODiGY is my new favorite group" . Till next week when another new group downloads from torrent and sync's direct english audio

Props to PRODiGY for fast watchable copys , but i think the TC was rushed and could have been encoded way better.


Posted by Boggle on 08-02-2005 03:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by fluffinator
open your eyes, this is a TC, and there is nothing picture wise to lead anyone to assume otherwise.

7/7/?

Video is a tad bit grainy and washed out, leaving a faint blurr effect.

Sound could be cleaned up TS audio, can't really tell, fits the release, didn't notice any sync issues.

Really, the only issue I had with this release was.

IT'S FUCKING PAL!!!!!!!

God fucking damnit. Really, I can deal with only watching this crispy TC on my tv-out, but for the love of god groups, PUT INFO IN YOUR NFO!

WTF is a point to an "nfo" which is supposedly stating encode settings, release qualirt settings, etc, if you aren't gonna tell people it's PAL!

It's a great release none-tha-less. But for all you saps that wasted blank discs and couldn't figure out why it either doesn't play, or plays all chopped to hell and outta sync on your stand alone, theres your answer.

I'm amazed no one else caught the fact that it's PAL. One can only assume the xvid will be from a PAL source.



And whats wrong with PAL you keep on saying it like it is a disease!.
Stop moaning about PAL you sound like a broken record


Posted by iamjoepesci on 08-02-2005 04:59 PM:

8/9/??

this group is moving up quick.good job guys


Posted by Shrek Nation on 08-02-2005 06:29 PM:

8/8/1

Worst fucking movie I've seen in a while.


Posted by geoffbob30 on 08-02-2005 07:02 PM:

very nice quality film is still shit


v\8
a\8
m\3


Posted by yyiryyib on 08-02-2005 07:15 PM:

silly american thinking NTSC is the only format. there is a whole world out there

anyways, nice looking, i'll wait for the TC DVDR before i get the whole thing

8/8/7


Posted by chuxterofdoom on 08-02-2005 07:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yyiryyib
silly american thinking NTSC is the only format. there is a whole world out there

anyways, nice looking, i'll wait for the TC DVDR before i get the whole thing

8/8/7



He never said every release should be ntsc. In fact, he said he doesn't mind what format it's in but that they would at least put what format it is, ntsc or pal, in the nfo. I agree with this. Who likes burning a couple of cds or dvd just to find out it won't play on your stand alone. And no not most tvs or dvd players convert to either format. I have 10 dvd players all different brands and models and only one does that.


Posted by pjfan281 on 08-02-2005 08:08 PM:

quote:


I'm amazed no one else caught the fact that it's PAL. One can only assume the xvid will be from a PAL source. [/B]


i'm amazed you dont realize every major release now is pal. wise up


Posted by fluffinator on 08-02-2005 09:09 PM:

umm, firstly, not all major releases are PAL, alot of the ones coming from Russian sources are.

Secondly. I'm not complaining that it's PAL, i'm complaining that they fail to mention in the NFO it's PAL.

PAL is higher quality than NTSC by default. Higher framerate and picture quality.

The problem being, PAL, played thru an NTSC dvd player produces CRAP. There are several methods for converting, such as patching the ifo, or actually re-encoding with a lower framerate.
Some NTSC dvd players apply the "patch" method by default, as does mine. Trying to watch a nice release like this that way just kills the release.

Don't believe me, check out vcdhelp and search "pal to ntsc"

Both methods produce a jerky picture that lags every few frames, or skips, however you look at it.

As for the genius posts flaming me, go back and READ my post. I'd prefer PAL if I WAS INFORMED thru the NFO.

quote:
God fucking damnit. Really, I can deal with only watching this crispy TC on my tv-out, but for the love of god groups, PUT INFO IN YOUR NFO!


Feel free to READ the post before you all jump on the flame bandwagon.

It's a fairly good release, a little bit blurred but I didn't notice any ghosting in the few action scenes I checked.

oh, and yyiryyib learn to read... it says CANADA under my location.

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Posted by pyroshady on 08-03-2005 12:00 AM:

Lol go get em fluffy lol.
Ight after watching this wholerls on my pc.
Video - 8 (I dled both tc and ts and I'd perfer the tc)
Audio - 6 (a bit low sounded like mono)
Movie - 7 (Wasnt the worst movie of all time , But not the best niether)


Posted by Kzbd on 08-03-2005 01:03 AM:

Kick ass it's so good to see a group releasing rips and TC's of current movies. GOD BLESS PRODIGY. I want to have deep meaningful sex with all of you too, starting with your members who are large breasted hot chics.


Posted by pvt_klaas on 08-03-2005 01:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by yyiryyib
silly american thinking NTSC is the only format. there is a whole world out there

anyways, nice looking, i'll wait for the TC DVDR before i get the whole thing

8/8/7



Yeah, I agree. America has had his time. Most Major release come from European or Russian Sources. Even the great centropy used french sources.


Posted by garvey100 on 08-03-2005 04:10 AM:

Saw the telesync and loved the quality

Thought the film was one of the worst to pass my eyes in a long long while.....if you are talking cheese, then this is pure over ripe camembert

TC is a little better.......what you gotta question is whether this film was worth 2 quick releases, top quality though they may be...

Respect due to the group, hope you can keep em coming

8/8/-5


Posted by ou812 on 08-03-2005 04:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cactus-jack
pretty good movie. this looks to b 2.35 instead of the 1.85 other release

8
8
8



its 2.35 because its bad AR, I recoded it and took off 25 pixels from both top and bottom and brought it back to 1.85. Now it looks alot better


Posted by Doomsdayer on 08-03-2005 07:03 AM:

8/8/7 - I went in watching this movie thinking I wouldn't enjoy, cuz of the reviews it got from critics and the preview made it look like it was all about special effects, which only get a movie so far... but this movie was actually pretty good...not great, but good.


Posted by TMM on 08-03-2005 07:24 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pvt_klaas
Yeah, I agree. America has had his time. Most Major release come from European or Russian Sources. Even the great centropy used french sources.



PAL being 25 FPS closest framerate to actual film produces a way better quality picture than NTSC ever would.. and as for ctp, they used french CANADIAN sources im pretty certain. It's not nice to bitch about FREE releases.


Posted by Hairyhamster on 08-03-2005 08:56 AM:

imo this isnt as good as the ts..... as already stated its very blured, audio is good though... nice try but a little bit more time spent, and probly a better capture device wouldve been top notch !

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Posted by [Admiral] on 08-03-2005 09:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by fluffinator
umm, firstly, not all major releases are PAL, alot of the ones coming from Russian sources are.

Secondly. I'm not complaining that it's PAL, i'm complaining that they fail to mention in the NFO it's PAL.

PAL is higher quality than NTSC by default. Higher framerate and picture quality.

The problem being, PAL, played thru an NTSC dvd player produces CRAP. There are several methods for converting, such as patching the ifo, or actually re-encoding with a lower framerate.
Some NTSC dvd players apply the "patch" method by default, as does mine. Trying to watch a nice release like this that way just kills the release.

Don't believe me, check out vcdhelp and search "pal to ntsc"

Both methods produce a jerky picture that lags every few frames, or skips, however you look at it.

As for the genius posts flaming me, go back and READ my post. I'd prefer PAL if I WAS INFORMED thru the NFO.



Feel free to READ the post before you all jump on the flame bandwagon.

It's a fairly good release, a little bit blurred but I didn't notice any ghosting in the few action scenes I checked.

oh, and yyiryyib learn to read... it says CANADA under my location.



um. there are more methods for converting pal to ntsc than those two.
if you want a fairly 'newbie friendly' method go grab canopus procoder2.
works real good.
or learn how to use avisynth + cce.

as for the movie, nice release especially in the current dry spell. not gonna bother watching it all though.


Posted by jebling on 08-03-2005 09:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ou812
its 2.35 because its bad AR, I recoded it and took off 25 pixels from both top and bottom and brought it back to 1.85. Now it looks alot better


sorry to disagree with you this release does not have a bad aspect ratio. the group released the movie correctly, with an original theatrical release aspect ratio of 2.35...

United States, 2005
U.S. Release Date: 7/29/05 (wide)
Running Length: 2:00
MPAA Classification: PG-13 (Violence)
Theatrical Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1
Cast: Josh Lucas, Jessica Biel, Jamie Foxx, Sam Shepard, Richard Roxburgh, Joe Morton
Director: Rob Cohen
Producers: Mike Medavoy, Arnold Messer, Neal Moritz, Laura Ziskin
Screenplay: W.D. Richter
Cinematography: Dean Semler
Music: Trevor Morris
U.S. Distributor: Columbia Pictures

http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/s/stealth.html

v:8
a:8
m:7


Posted by Neversoft on 08-03-2005 12:35 PM:

Excellent quality but the movies is erm, errrrr... Poor?

It's not a bad movie as such, just stupidly far-fetched to the point where I almost pissed myself laughing. It's full of huge plot holes and half the time makes fuck-all sense but if you just want a summer popcorn flick that you can turn your brain off to - try this (it's like a live action Team America!)

V - 7
A - 8
M - 6 (I liked the "badness" ok?)


Posted by Fionn McCool on 08-03-2005 12:47 PM:

Nice quality, movie was dumb but fun and I enjoyed it.

7/8/6


Posted by Airhead on 08-03-2005 04:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
Excellent quality but the movies is erm, errrrr... Poor?


^ Says it all

M - 4

Read somewhere ... someone was compairing "Stealth" to Top Gun meets Flight of the Navigator and that wraps up this movie perfectly. Lots of unbelieveable action and plots that drug on, im sure the summer teens will love it .... when retail comes out it will be something to watch on a rainy day.


Posted by dvdhouse111 on 08-03-2005 08:54 PM:

i converted to dvd using svcd2dvd and the film finishes where the AI stealth is skimming the ocean floor and goes throught he bomb spalsh of water???

Is this where all end as Ive seen some posts say the end credits have no sound? I have no end credits!!!!!

If so how far from the end is the above sequence?

dvdhouse


Posted by Airhead on 08-03-2005 09:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dvdhouse111
i converted to dvd using svcd2dvd and the film finishes where the AI stealth is skimming the ocean floor and goes throught he bomb spalsh of water???

If so how far from the end is the above sequence?



Your missing a good 30 to 40 minutes , dont want to spoil anything for ya ... but your missing quite a bit.


Posted by fluffinator on 08-04-2005 03:55 AM:

lol, technically missing alot of actual minutes and "plot turns"

but as for actual content, not much

Reitterating again, great release of garbage for a movie.

All the Maya 3d cocpit zooms can't save it.

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Posted by ou812 on 08-04-2005 07:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by jebling
sorry to disagree with you this release does not have a bad aspect ratio. the group released the movie correctly, with an original theatrical release aspect ratio of 2.35...



Only way to prove this, is with a visual.

http://kandk.sinfree.net/stealth-diff.jpg

You may have to hit refresh, vcdq dont like links sometimes.

I understand how the movie was originally shot aspect, but this is squished a tad.


Posted by frak on 08-04-2005 09:00 AM:

watched this on the TV last night...

quality is superb, one of the better TC's I've seen in a while.
Video is sharp and the colors are great. Aspect ratio is ok if
your 16:9 tv supports various modes, on my toshiba wide1 looked
"almost" spot on.

Audio is perfect as well.

The movie? quite possibly the worst piece of trash i've seen in
a long time.. Shame we get TC's of junk like this with some good
films lurking out there with only cams. Still great job prodigy..
keep it up.

v:8.5
a:8.5
m: 0


Posted by dvdhouse111 on 08-04-2005 09:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Airhead
Your missing a good 30 to 40 minutes , dont want to spoil anything for ya ... but your missing quite a bit.


yeah cheers Airhead I did stop svcd2dvd to early so cd3 was missing off the video_ts file.....anyway all ok now film was ok and it does pay to watch a film all the way to the end credits (ive always said this)

v = 8

a = 8

m = 6

dvdhouse


Posted by tfc on 08-04-2005 07:00 PM:

video: 7 (bit blurry for a TC)
audio: 8 (not the best ive ever heard)
movie: 5 (watchable, but pretty bad)


Posted by napalmfuzz on 08-05-2005 05:13 AM:

my question is.. should i keep the ts or upgrade.. is this really that much better?

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Posted by BLUE-NEO on 08-05-2005 07:31 AM:

video has nice coloring and everything just blurry as hell and eye screeching. Overall its needs a major repack or recode.

7/9/8 movie was actually kind of good.

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Posted by fluffinator on 08-05-2005 05:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
(it's like a live action Team America!)



hehe yeah that's a great comparision. Key difference being, I think stealth was actually trying to be taken seriously, where as Team America was basically trey & matt asking themselves:
why do the censor boards and movie companies keep letting us make movies?

Then answering, fuck knows, lets just make the most over the top crappy, dick and fart joke movie ever, then laugh at the suckers paying to see it.

I loved team america, and i'm growing to actualy like stealth now.

It's fun, you make it a drinking game, everytime you spot a plot hole, take a drink :P

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Posted by fluffinator on 08-05-2005 08:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by [Admiral]
um. there are more methods for converting pal to ntsc than those two.
if you want a fairly 'newbie friendly' method go grab canopus procoder2.
works real good.
or learn how to use avisynth + cce.



Ok, there are 3 basic methods for converting PAL to NTSC

the patch method, with no encoding, just opening the ifo of a dvd and telling it it's ntsc not pal.

This works in some stand alones, and is the basis for most of the stand alones that play both ntsc and pal.

There is the frame rate conversion, which, when you stop and think about it, kills it.

You are taking a 25 fps file and converting to 23 or 29 fps. Frames are being removed/added

Movies on PAL DVDs play back 4% faster than their NTSC counterparts. The great majority of people will never notice this, but for a small minority, this is an intolerable artefact.

Theres also the "3 -2 pull down" method

The net effect of this is that any image pan is not smooth, but takes place in a series of uneven steps, an artefact known as judder. As with PAL's 4% speed-up, the great majority of people will never notice this artefact, but for a small minority, this is intolerable. Personally, I find this artefact all but intolerable and find it very hard to watch a movie on an NTSC DVD because of it.

Simply, some might not notice the problems, others will. The fact of the matter, no matter what method you use, you are losing quality on that movie.

And a fast paced, action movie like this one, I can't even attempt to watch it like that, I just stick with my s-video out and let VLC deal with it.

quote:
PAL being 25 FPS closest framerate to actual film produces a way better quality picture than NTSC ever would.. and as for ctp, they used french CANADIAN sources im pretty certain. It's not nice to bitch about FREE releases.


Yup, and guess what, I'm canadian, and canada uses NTSC. As stated a billion times before, to the point that i'm ricking being banned.

I NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS RELEASE. I complained about the lack of info in their NFO, dats it.

When the majority of releases have been NTSC, it would be common sense to atleast put that in your nfo, NTSC or PAL. The time it takes the groups to put their "fuck yous" and such, they coulda plopped PAL in there and saved alot of people wasted discs.

As I stated a few times here, I'd PREFER PAL, much higher quality, and for the most part, always play and look better. (with the exception of a few I've downloaded)

All I asked was to be informed, seeing as all groups include an NFO with their release, only fitting to put some actualy INFO in it.

/end rant , ignoring any further posts on this subject as for people apparently can't read the post they are trying to flame

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Posted by bobbull1965 on 08-07-2005 12:17 AM:

hi I,m new and my first vote
good copy
V - 7
S - 8
M - 6
movie get little slow


Posted by chrispeters on 08-07-2005 06:51 PM:

Knight rider in the sky....
really shit !!
good quality though
7.5/7.5/2

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Posted by Methadon on 08-08-2005 09:07 PM:

ok, I know I'm late, but I just got my access back so I can see these again(never pay bills late, y'all). Anyway:

Video - 9
I swear to God I thought I was watching a retail DVD for a minute(although there was a green like substance around, too). Picture is awesome. Lovin' the TC's as of late.

Audio - 9
I had to re-check the audio. On my TV with the stereo hooked up it sounds great, but on my computer with the 2.1, it sounds awesome. Great job on the audio, guys!

Movie - 6
It wasn't bad, but it wasn't that good either. I was really dissapointed with how they did "that one dude". Movie seemed like i,Robot meets Top Gun, but could've been better.


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