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Posted by X69 on 08-10-2005 04:10 PM:


IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ

1 NO REQUESTING MOVIES OR SAMPLES (THIS INCLUDES REQUESTS FOR OTHER GROUPS TO RELEASE THIS FILM!)

2 DO NOT DISCUSS WHERE TO DOWNLOAD MOVIES OR SAMPLES

3 NO FLAMING

4 NO "SPOILERS"

5 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE ONLY (AND ONLY IF YOU'VE SEEN IT). THIS IS THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THE THREAD!

6 NO "NOOB" QUESTIONS SUCH AS "HOW DO I WATCH THIS?" ASK IN THE APPROPRIATE PART OF THE FORUM

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Posted by Jackfrost on 08-10-2005 04:35 PM:

Judging by the sample...

V=7 (Alittle dark but not bad)
A=8 Nice and clear
M=? (Haven't watched it yet)


Posted by turk182 on 08-10-2005 04:52 PM:

just watched sample
prob the best one out so far
the audio is alright but the video looks sorta like a cam

A-7
V-6
M-7

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Posted by ou812 on 08-10-2005 04:58 PM:

Hey thats Neelix in the sample from Star Trek Voyager (very cool, and ya I'm a dork).

Pic is alittle dark and on a slight tilt. Cropped a tad too much. Definatly better then the cam. Can't wait to watch it.


Posted by nozafc on 08-10-2005 05:04 PM:

From Sample:-

Looked slighlty tilted, bit blurry and a bit dark but if whole movie is like the sample then best copy so far.

Audio sounded good

6/8/?


Posted by mlp on 08-10-2005 05:27 PM:

Thumbs up

slightly blurred, good colours tho...

it seems to fade in and out gently (gets darker) hard to describe, but it's noticeable. Still watchable mind...

Looking fwd to watching it tonight!

Audio good, slight hiss but dialogue is perfect.

v7/a7/?? will update when i finish watching it.

EDIT
Cropped to fuck, spanish sub in the center of the screen, patchy sound, oh, and missing a shit load of the film!

v5/a5/m7 - possibly the best advert i've ever seen for XBoX/MSN/Nokia/Chrysler - reminds me of I,Robot - an exercise in style over content. Deserves a decent TC/SCR copy tho...


Posted by mattmatt02 on 08-10-2005 05:41 PM:

nice ts, similar to what we've had alot of recently...

8/9/?

:edit: sorry i can concentrate a bit better now, watched the sample again and it seems to be above average pic with the sound having a minor hiss to it

now, as a ts:

7/7/?


Posted by Bullet on 08-10-2005 06:35 PM:

really happy with all the new rlses.. But this just aint good enough for such a movie

i wait for tc. But thx for offering it to us guys

6/7/7

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Posted by Airhead on 08-10-2005 07:22 PM:

Same Video from the iNTERNAL BURGER CAM (ie same silver) , watch the beggining of both and you will see the exact same begginings. Same audio from Prevail CAM heavily filtered. Since same silver as BURGER iNTERNAL CAM its going to be missing scenes half way through the movie.

Dark , blurry , hiss in audio , usual silver

meh ..

4/4/?

quote:
Originally posted by Bullet
i wait for tc.


Opens wide in russia tommorow , shouldnt have to wait long .


Posted by JK1 on 08-10-2005 07:50 PM:

Hmm not very good really, but hey it is a TS..sound aint too bad but sounds hissy..colours very washed and poor and typical dark patches.

5/5


Posted by Zombie Jesus on 08-10-2005 09:33 PM:

looks like the same source as burger's internal which means it has missing scenes.

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Posted by darknez on 08-10-2005 09:51 PM:

Thumbs down

The.Island.SVCD.TS-TheEnd [NUKED] bad.hissing.mislabeled.cam


Posted by NightLong on 08-10-2005 10:40 PM:

CAM

4/6/8


Posted by zerobyte on 08-10-2005 10:52 PM:

Didnt the burger cam have horrible motion blur?? I didnt notice any of that in the sample.The colors appear to be much more rich.The picture looks 2 - 3 x sharper.Good release.


Posted by Liquido on 08-10-2005 11:18 PM:

Seems to me that there were atleast 1 missing scene, could have been more that i didnt notice.

Sound were not to bad except the hissing noise.
The picture seems to be from different sources, some scenes had subs in the middle of the screen.

Personally I should have waited for a TC or better if I knew what I know now.

/Liquido


Posted by bryehn on 08-10-2005 11:56 PM:

as soon as i saw "TheEnd" i knew i was in for crap.

sample looks ok, but sounds like poo.

guess i'll keep waiting

6/5/?

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Posted by nozafc on 08-10-2005 11:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie Jesus
looks like the same source as burger's internal which means it has missing scenes.


Wasnt the burger one missing 20 minutes??

This has a run time of 125mins

imdb says offical run time 136 mins

11 minutes for credits etc? Sounds about right


Posted by Doomsdayer on 08-11-2005 12:19 AM:

I'd say it's an average TS....
6/6/? - Movie looks awesome and i've heard lots of good reviews... I'm going to wait for a better copy, given all the special effects and fast pace movie... but that's just me


Posted by FATTY BOOM STIX on 08-11-2005 01:14 AM:

7/7/7………watched the Whole movie.
this is my 1st movie rating.
(been here ages but never signed up till now).
has always amazed me how many post ratings after only viewing a tiny sample.
imo (for what it's worth,no disrespect to mods) ppl shouldn't be allowed to post ratings purely on a (ie)30 sec sample.
(taking it as a given no-one rates jpegs)
reasoning is anyone can DL a (ie)25mb sample.
u, me & my grannie has the sample of X movie the day X movie is released.
if everyone was to post a rating after only viewing a miniscule sample the end result can be extremely unhelpfull &/or plain wrong.
samples can be unreliable &/or prejudice.
i've found this out the hard way (many times) after taking notice of sample-ratings off VCDQ.
it often takes the person(s) who watch(es) the whole movie before one finds out a movie has (serious) issues(or not) & then all the sample ratings are made null&void.
am i alone on this or is giving ratings on audio+video+opinion-of-movie via a sample the done thing?
i won't raise this subject again as i don't want to appear argumentative.
i just had to ask coz myself & the majority of ppl i know who religiously come here for quality-guidance wade thru the sample-ratings to find posts from members who've given ratings on the whole-movie.

thx for ur time &/or opinion & thx to the powers that be for such a top-shelf site.


Posted by stryfe2010 on 08-11-2005 02:08 AM:

After watching the full release I didn't notice any audio hissing but did notice that there is scenes missing towards the end of the movie.


Posted by 4NAK8TR on 08-11-2005 04:06 AM:

This is looking very cropped. I can deal with a pic thats a little dark and fuzzy like this one, but when your missing half the screen we might as well be reading the book.

I still appreciate the hell out of any release, So Thanks.


Posted by mmm_2001 on 08-11-2005 04:53 AM:

Let's wait for a better one !

The quality of this release would have been ok for a romantic comedy movie or something similar, not for an action movie.
I'll wait for a better one, like maven maybe, if not I'll wait for the DVD release !
Watched a just part of the movie. Nice movie !

7/7/9 - for a complete release

6/6/9 - for the one that has parts missing.


Posted by Red_Tides99 on 08-11-2005 05:50 AM:

Don't go by the sample on this one guys. It looks much better than the final result.

Video is overly washed and fuzzy (post filter blending?), and from multiple sources with (spanish?) subtitles appering in certian scenes across the entire screen throughout the movie. Its a horrible mess, definitly a splice job between several sources.. And yet still missing a scene or two near the end. Worthy of a 2 for the hack job it is.

Audio is passable and audible enough but see others posts for proper gripes. 5

Movie itself is ambitious, different, and fairly original, it deserves to do better at the box office. Will definitly be looking into a DVD for this. 9

IMO don't waste your bandwidth.


Posted by aweaware2 on 08-11-2005 07:04 AM:

I watched the Hydro version and that was 2 hours and 9 minutes, this one is 2 hours and 5 minutes, so it's not 20 minutes missing like some people have been saying.


Posted by simpy on 08-11-2005 07:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by FATTY BOOM STIX
7/7/7………watched the Whole movie.
this is my 1st movie rating.
(been here ages but never signed up till now).
has always amazed me how many post ratings after only viewing a tiny sample.
imo (for what it's worth,no disrespect to mods) ppl shouldn't be allowed to post ratings purely on a (ie)30 sec sample.
(taking it as a given no-one rates jpegs)
reasoning is anyone can DL a (ie)25mb sample.
u, me & my grannie has the sample of X movie the day X movie is released.
if everyone was to post a rating after only viewing a miniscule sample the end result can be extremely unhelpfull &/or plain wrong.
samples can be unreliable &/or prejudice.
i've found this out the hard way (many times) after taking notice of sample-ratings off VCDQ.
it often takes the person(s) who watch(es) the whole movie before one finds out a movie has (serious) issues(or not) & then all the sample ratings are made null&void.
am i alone on this or is giving ratings on audio+video+opinion-of-movie via a sample the done thing?
i won't raise this subject again as i don't want to appear argumentative.
i just had to ask coz myself & the majority of ppl i know who religiously come here for quality-guidance wade thru the sample-ratings to find posts from members who've given ratings on the whole-movie.

thx for ur time &/or opinion & thx to the powers that be for such a top-shelf site.





My first post also, i agree with FATTY BOOM STIX on his comments, imho


Posted by PlasmaWhore on 08-11-2005 08:47 AM:

I watched about 10 minutes of CD1 and I think I'll wait for a better release. If this was just a comedy it would be fine, but for an blockbuster action movie I need better quality.

6/5/?

Video looks pretty cropped judging by how much of the credits are missing from the sides of the screen.


Posted by firecoz on 08-11-2005 10:07 AM:

Thumbs up nice but not the best

best release yet so 7/6


Posted by Liquido on 08-11-2005 11:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by realdeal2004
Just watched it.

The sound works if it wasent for the hissing noise.
Video seems to be from multiple sources, subs keep coming in the middle of the picture sometimes.
Also noticed what seems to be a missing scene in the end, could be more that i didn´t noticed.

If I knew what I know now I would have waited for a TC.

Great upload though.




You know as well as I do that this post is stolen directly from me. I wrote this on another closed forum and you stole it from me, have you even seen the movie or do you just wanna get your post count up?
And why didn´t you edit out "Great upload though.", nothing gets uploaded here ya know!

Moderators, please delete his post, if he doesnt do it himself, I have sent him a PM.
Thanx in advance.

/Liquido


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Posted by A7mag3ddon on 08-11-2005 11:37 AM:

I have to agree with the 2 guys who posted above, ratings should not be given on samples.

I think it should be at least the first disc.

Take this release for example 2.2gb is not a small file. I came here yesterday, viwed the jpeg, read the first few comments then downloaded it. When i checked it i found all the problems everyone else did ( 24 hrs later ! ) what a waste of my time downloading.

Ive been a member of VCDQ for 3 years and have been coming here to check ratings longer than that. I used to respect this sites opinion on quality but now it seems full of over zealous pre teens who want to make the first post.

For what its worth heres my scores on the doors.

A 3
V 6 (subs onscreen)
? Not watching till better quality


Posted by snowy1998 on 08-11-2005 12:22 PM:

Thumbs down

I too must concur that all too often people are posting comments based on the sample, in this day and age of the likes of batman et al where releases are coming out like hack-jobs off a cutting room floor, people should be taking more time to consider the bigger picture (no pun intended ) so we spend less time downloading stuff we later find out to be a complete shambles.

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Posted by ddb on 08-11-2005 05:11 PM:

5/5/5
crap cam for a crap movie
just glad i didn't waste $8.50 at the theater to see this

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Posted by Neversoft on 08-11-2005 05:29 PM:

You folks had to download the sample/movie to know this version was eye-bleedingly cack? Just click on TheEnd's "name" on the front page, see the woeful fuckups they've released... At least they're consistent

Did you honestly expect this to be anything other than a dump of cunt?


Posted by chrispeters on 08-11-2005 09:55 PM:

pretty bad folks.....
NICE movie though

6/5/8

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Posted by kingdazy on 08-11-2005 10:24 PM:

What do I get for not researching a GRP before aquiring a release?
Wasted BW and a craptastic waste of disk. Ack.

A~6 "passable", heard worse I guess.
V~3 cropped, chopped, mixed garbage.
M~8

Rumor has it that it is releasing in Russia soon (tomorrow?), so I am expecting a TS/TC soon....


Posted by danimal39 on 08-11-2005 11:19 PM:

watched a bout 30 min worth couldn't take to much more, 6/7/7 also just checked on what ns said, and 5 of seven releases by this group were nuked,looks like a red flag to me http://www.vcdquality.com/index.php?genre=1&grp=1247


Posted by MsLovelee on 08-11-2005 11:46 PM:

I have one that says [WNS] in the beginning of the name with no group mentioned....it seemed a bit clearer but then I noticed that it was basically a nuke...and it was missing the last 3 minutes. I know it was the last 3 minutes because I used the one that had an ending (i think the one with the spanish across it) and I edited the film to add only the last 2 minutes so I could see the entire film.

I think its an awesome plot and was eye candy but with this blur...you cant feel the full effect.

6/6/9

I agree also you shouldnt comment on the sample especially if parts are missing...how can you rate something that is not complete...


Posted by realdeal2004 on 08-12-2005 01:09 AM:

1st some folks on VcdQ are saying this is the original Burger release and it's missing footage....It is NOT!

Second It does start the same way and has the same tilt and the credits are cut off so you can't tell but the ending is there.

If it is the same source someone did a great job on the encoding because there is much less motion blur in the action scenes than in the previous other releases.

And the sound is not bad at all a little hiss but overall ok

Update 2:

Okay watched the release and....

This release has better audio and video than any previous releases..nice smooth action scenes!!

Once in a while maybe 3-5 times during the movie spanish subtitles come up but other than that I enjoyed this release

IT IS COMPLETE and best yet in my opinion!!

Note: Audio was great I didn't hear any hissing, hehe

REALDEAL


Posted by MoViE JuNkY on 08-12-2005 02:05 AM:

A: 8
V: 8
M: 8



Not bad at all, esp compared to prior releases of this one!

Audio has a very slight hiss..but not bad at all!

Video is descent..

And the movie was better than I thought it would be..


There are some massive lamers here bad mouthing this release group, Why? Is it free? Did you spend the time to en-code - re-encode anything? Did you risk anything or are you risking anything to help out all of us? To me this release/group deserves more credit than what was given here along with all the other groups out there risking their butts to make others happy!

Reguardless of what some of these rude folks say

GREAT WORK TheEnd !! =D




::EDIT:: I agree with and appreciate what you're saying but why release something that is so obviously "broken". It's not this site that makes or breaks a groups reputation, that's up to the group itself Hopefully after their next release (if there is one) I'll have to eat my own words! - NS::


Posted by BLUE-NEO on 08-12-2005 03:10 AM:

not bad just dark as fuck...I had to do alot of tmpgenc adjustments..and its still dark but the colors and clarity are clearer..

Thx TheEnd for at least releasing a watchable copy and good sound could have had more rumble and bass....and no its not incomplete I saw it in theaters and its all here...

6/8/9....until a telecine....

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Posted by Dodgy Del on 08-12-2005 07:44 AM:

Thumbs up

a tad dark,cropped, a slight hiss and a little blurry. apart from that its still watchable. decent movie aswell.

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Posted by swampdogk on 08-12-2005 10:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by A7mag3ddon
I have to agree with the 2 guys who posted above, ratings should not be given on samples.

I think it should be at least the first disc.

Take this release for example 2.2gb is not a small file. I came here yesterday, viwed the jpeg, read the first few comments then downloaded it. When i checked it i found all the problems everyone else did ( 24 hrs later ! ) what a waste of my time downloading.

Ive been a member of VCDQ for 3 years and have been coming here to check ratings longer than that. I used to respect this sites opinion on quality but now it seems full of over zealous pre teens who want to make the first post.

For what its worth heres my scores on the doors.

A 3
V 6 (subs onscreen)
? Not watching till better quality



If you took away posting on the sample that would eliminate 90% of posts here. Sample jockeys are the norm. It would be ideal to stop peeps posting on the sample, however they would still do it and just lie & say the posted it on the completed release.

Having said that, why don't you peeps who come here looking for quality comments just download the sample yourself and make your decision based on your own rating of it !!!! (surely you can spare 10 m/b download). OR wait until peeps who do post on the full version comment which is going to be longer. (given that they need the time to download & actually watch the release).

Cheers


Posted by FrogDawg on 08-12-2005 01:28 PM:

Watched the full release, this is way overcropped all the way around, most noticable in the action scenes especiallly with the blur makes it hard to see what's goin on sometimes, subs that appear all over the screen now and then are real annoying, the hiss is bearable, doesn't spoil it too much. and I thought there was cpl of bits missing, especially toward the end.

Overall a average TS, watchable, if u can hold out I'd wait, wish I had, BUT eh it's free aint it

6/6/8

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Posted by A7mag3ddon on 08-12-2005 02:04 PM:

Please dont take this post as a personal flame because its not.


If we just downloaded the sample we would be no better off than reading the comments based on it, on here.

The problem IS the sample. Anyone can cut a 10mb 2 min sample from a good part of their release. I want people opinions who have downloaded say the first disc.

I personally would rather have 10% good that 90% shit as thats what your suggesting would be lost (no big loss i think).

Nothing will change though as you said, but if enough people moan about it then hopefully the people rating samples and jpegs wont rush to post. Save my bandwidth a little

Hopefully a good TC / TS from Maven will come soon, the trailer for this flix looks good.


Posted by Airhead on 08-12-2005 03:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by A7mag3ddon
Hopefully a good TC / TS from Maven will come soon, the trailer for this flix looks good.


LOL ... i love how this forum swings , 1 month its "i hope theres a good TS from Centropy soon" , next month its SAOSiN , now that VideoCD told us all "Goodbye and Fuckoff" , and maVen has reappeared ... guess it really wasnt a Goodbye ..... everyone is going to say wait for maVen.

Hate to burst yer bubble A7mag3ddon .... read Dukes of Hazzard maVen thread ... they use silvers just like everyone else


Posted by MILF_2006 on 08-12-2005 09:30 PM:

looks ok. 6\5\8


Posted by FDNY on 08-12-2005 11:30 PM:

Yo Airhead,

Earlier in this thread you declared this release being the Burger Cam and it was missing scenes. But ya didn't even watch the damn thing.

I guess we both know now who's too busy "swinging"

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Posted by carlos189 on 08-13-2005 01:19 AM:

just watched.

v:6
a:6
f:9

good film wait for a better copy.


Posted by Airhead on 08-13-2005 03:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by FDNY
Yo Airhead,

Earlier in this thread you declared this release being the Burger Cam and it was missing scenes. But ya didn't even watch the damn thing.

I guess we both know now who's too busy "swinging"



Lets see what i said

quote:
Originally posted by Airhead
Same Video from the iNTERNAL BURGER CAM (ie same silver) , watch the beggining of both and you will see the exact same begginings. Same audio from Prevail CAM heavily filtered. Since same silver as BURGER iNTERNAL CAM its going to be missing scenes half way through the movie.


Actually the middle missing scenes are replaced with another version of BURGER's internal and theres a whole lot of copy'n and pasting going on to make this movie "Complete" , yet its still missing scenes at the end.

Now on that note , would you watch a movie thats missing scene's? Didnt think so .... kthx .


Posted by Doomsdayer on 08-13-2005 01:07 PM:

Would people please stop the bi*ching!!! People on here complain and complain and its so damn old!! Post your reviews on the damn movie at hand... even if it is a sample! I dont care... I know to know even from the sample... 8/8/8 thats my finally review after watching the movie... it rocked!


Posted by FATTY BOOM STIX on 08-13-2005 04:14 PM:

thx A7mag3ddon, was gonna reply but u read (& typed) my mind.
i wasn't complaining at all, i apologize if it came across as such, just an opinion based on experience.
i totally appreciate the point the mod has made & won't entertain the subject again.

thx to all for ur time & opinions on the matter.


Posted by phoremat on 08-13-2005 07:21 PM:

Thumbs down

yeah this release is missing scenes still...too bad...the spanish subs right in the middle of the picture are annoying...and some parts the actors are totally off to the side and your left looking at a wall dammit

the plot of the movie itself is pretty cool


Posted by RUiNU on 08-14-2005 03:46 AM:

just watched it, nice release.

7/7/8


Posted by pedrohead on 08-14-2005 04:24 AM:

Smile

I would say 7/7/7 ,im looking forward to seeing it tonight.


Posted by pHo on 08-14-2005 05:50 PM:

Guide to ratings by pHo:

anyone who thinks this movie is worthy of 7 or above can be set to ignore

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Posted by FATTY BOOM STIX on 08-15-2005 12:55 AM:

a bit harsh but i agree (in my case) i should've taken into account i used VLC to clean it up.
(btw…as-is it's not that far off 7/7 at all)
it only needed minor adjusting w' approp' modules whilst streaming(viewing).
don't want to post ratings after a 'flick-thru' but w' movies that require minor/major cleaning i'll have to i suppose.
(unless flawed movie is SO good i can sit thru start to end (as-is) twice)


Posted by fluffykiwi on 08-15-2005 11:40 AM:

I was really enjoying the movie, till the sudden scene skip at the climax of the movie. Very noticeable.

Video is very cropped but on my standalone player it was watchable. You do feel your missing a lot though as you rarely see the top of anybodys head .

Audio was fine, not the best I've heard, but I had no problems hearing what was going on.


5/5/8

I'd recommend waiting for a better version, unless you are really desperate. At least one that is complete.


Posted by JunqueMan on 08-15-2005 01:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by fluffykiwi I was really enjoying the movie, till the sudden scene skip at the climax of the movie. Very noticeable.


Same here. I thought the release was really pretty good, cropped yes, but still pleasantly watchable, till around 28:28 in part c when it skipped part of a scene. Nothing that your imagination couldn't insert, but yes, annoying. As were the periodically shown subs (not mentioned that it had any that I know)

A - 7
V - 7 (would've been 8 without the skip and the subs)
M - 8.9 (I thought is was really good, damn the film critics )

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