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Posted by Leet989 on 08-30-2002 03:27 PM:

Kick ass Quality

TCF u guys have a KICK ass supplier,,. even though this aint a scr itz still good


Posted by Buio_Omega on 08-30-2002 03:39 PM:

*uck yeah!!! the scr was ok, but this *ucking rocks!


Posted by viper505 on 08-30-2002 03:51 PM:

Not SVCD

I find this and other TCF releases great, however there's one problem I find. I believe that since the source of this release is of a very high quality, a telecine to be correct, it should in fact be encoded to 3-SVCDS as it would be much better quality or resolution for those people who wish to watch on large RPTVs of plasmas.

TCF usually encodes their stuff into VCD, and it degrades from the usually high source. I think they believe that more people prefer downloading less than downloading more at a higher quality.

Someone needs to remind them that quality is always more important, of course, that's in my opinion.


Posted by Asterisk on 08-30-2002 04:42 PM:

Best film of the year. I dont care how many releases of this movie there are as long as they improve. Picture's better than the WP, seems a little jerky (assuming that's why they labelled it a telecine), but that doesn't bother me. Sound is similar to WP, but with no glitches and no 30 second gap

Nice one TCF 8/8/9.


Posted by rvwinkle on 08-30-2002 04:48 PM:

-- but once again we get an upgrade of a movie that...didn't need the upgrade!

Who is the we you arte referring to? Me personally I thought the previous versions sucked ass enought that I wanted a better release, and I am cpompletely excited that this fine group has done another great release in keeping with their previous work.

I guess you will be here bitching when the dvdrip comes out too ?
Not all of us convert these to divx and watch them on our gameboy.


Posted by Urkman on 08-30-2002 04:53 PM:

nice telecine Ive been waiting to see a killer release of this movie anyway...

Since, TCF is ruling the scene right now, I wonder if they will rls a better version of ¤[The Bourne Identity]¤

9/9/9

Popcorn Playa™ - «Urkman»


Posted by Puffs on 08-30-2002 05:17 PM:

Question Why

Am i the only one here that gets fed up when so many differant versions of the same movie are released, its true this copy seems to be the best so far but judging from the last so called screener which in my opinion was very good why rls this one? there really does not seem to be much in it except for the clock,and i must also add that its old and will probably be available in Blockbuster soon n e way. Sorry to go on with this being my first post an all but it just annoys me.


Posted by devilbeast on 08-30-2002 05:32 PM:

Fuck yes good job on this one, this is the only rls ive gotten of this movie and im guessing its the best cause its damn nice


Posted by Leet989 on 08-30-2002 06:03 PM:

Sound

the sound is just a little fucked.. its like TS quality sound sounds hollow or something it aint right


Posted by Dr. Poo PhD on 08-30-2002 06:04 PM:

Wow! I just finished watching this and it was very nice. I have to agree with the previous sentiment that this was one of the best movies of the year and to keep good releases like this coming! This one is very nice and I wouldn't even be disappointed if there wasn't a screener after a nice release like this (but would be very happy if there was, of course...). =)

I'd rate this one a 9/9/10.

Thanks again TCF!


Posted by ABlix0 on 08-30-2002 06:18 PM:

I already got the workprint and thought that was exceptional. Should I get this? Is it any better?


Posted by Riddick on 08-30-2002 06:30 PM:

Re: Why

quote:
Originally posted by Puffs
Am i the only one here that gets fed up when so many differant versions of the same movie are released, its true this copy seems to be the best so far but judging from the last so called screener which in my opinion was very good why rls this one? there really does not seem to be much in it except for the clock,and i must also add that its old and will probably be available in Blockbuster soon n e way. Sorry to go on with this being my first post an all but it just annoys me.



dickhead do u think they released it just for u? go back to that rock you have been under....

btw great release just watched cd1 video 8. audio 7, movie 10!


Posted by Azrael626 on 08-30-2002 06:43 PM:

Whats funny is this

If you look at this release and you look at the TC of Stuart Little 2, they are almost identical, and in some cases the SL2 even seems better, though granted MR is a much better movie, I have to ask myself if any of the people who vote on this site actually vote based upon the quality of the movie or simply by the group name next to it? Jesus people.


Posted by Riddick on 08-30-2002 06:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rvwinkle
-- but once again we get an upgrade of a movie that...didn't need the upgrade!

Who is the we you arte referring to? Me personally I thought the previous versions sucked ass enought that I wanted a better release, and I am cpompletely excited that this fine group has done another great release in keeping with their previous work.

I guess you will be here bitching when the dvdrip comes out too ?
Not all of us convert these to divx and watch them on our gameboy.




lmfao! werd


Posted by ub3rk1d on 08-30-2002 06:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Urkman
nice telecine Ive been waiting to see a killer release of this movie anyway...

Since, TCF is ruling the scene right now, I wonder if they will rls a better version of ¤[The Bourne Identity]¤

9/9/9

Popcorn Playa™ - «Urkman»

That would be nice, especially just in time for the UK release over here


Posted by TrV on 08-30-2002 06:57 PM:

Re: Not SVCD

quote:
Originally posted by viper505
I find this and other TCF releases great, however there's one problem I find. I believe that since the source of this release is of a very high quality, a telecine to be correct, it should in fact be encoded to 3-SVCDS as it would be much better quality or resolution for those people who wish to watch on large RPTVs of plasmas.

TCF usually encodes their stuff into VCD, and it degrades from the usually high source. I think they believe that more people prefer downloading less than downloading more at a higher quality.

Someone needs to remind them that quality is always more important, of course, that's in my opinion.



Yeah right!, could you be more gay if you tried.....just dl this excellent TC and be happy you got it for nothing! - Oh I completely forgot, it will be weeks before you have axx to this on kazaa.....Ha.....Lamer!


Posted by TrV on 08-30-2002 06:58 PM:

Re: Why

quote:
Originally posted by Puffs
Am i the only one here that gets fed up when so many differant versions of the same movie are released, its true this copy seems to be the best so far but judging from the last so called screener which in my opinion was very good why rls this one? there really does not seem to be much in it except for the clock,and i must also add that its old and will probably be available in Blockbuster soon n e way. Sorry to go on with this being my first post an all but it just annoys me.


And n00b's without a clue annoy the fuk out of me.....get a grip man.


Posted by Nealo on 08-30-2002 07:06 PM:

Good Realease For A Very Shity Movie

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Posted by Wesb0b on 08-30-2002 07:23 PM:

FUck this movie. they need to release good copies of NEW movies. stop wastein there time on old ass movies and release something new like Feat Dot Com

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Posted by svenbob on 08-30-2002 07:39 PM:

wes... that was the n00best thing you've ever said. Period. Zip your lip child before you put the "bob" at the end of our name to shame! Some peopel like good quality older movies, I for one, will download this movie. And you do relieze when Fear Dot Com comes out, it will be a shitty ass quality silver.... so please... let the "bob" addon not be looked at in shame!

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Posted by Schock on 08-30-2002 08:07 PM:

Great release TCF keep it up.
wesb0b is right in a way i wish first run movies had this quality and would love to see fear dot com released like this.


Posted by Cory on 08-30-2002 08:40 PM:

Ew, Fear Dot Com. That movie looks as fucking corny as Michael Jackson. I would probably dl it but it looks stupid as hell.


Posted by mymusic on 08-30-2002 09:06 PM:

great release but i hate it when groups use hjsplit or what ever app gives *.001 files. please just use winrar like the rest


Posted by Puffs on 08-30-2002 09:21 PM:

Come On Kids Grow Up.

Why the hell are all the kids in here bitching @ me for my fair comments in my earlier post, the only reason they like having a go @ ppl with something to say is that as small children they dont have any brain and lack having a life other than that of being an incredibly brain dead rich kid with no life, And whos parents are obviously Brother & Sister!!!

All i was trying to say was why keep releasing older movies all the time when there are very good versions around already although we do appreciate them it does get a little annoying to see so many versions of the same movie around.
It was not my intention to slag off this or any other group, far from it, its just my observation and opinion..Get It..

Come on this quote was written by a small child with no brain!

"dickhead do u think they released it just for u? go back to that rock you have been under..."

Grow Up Kids and except other peoples comments rather than slagging them off...


Posted by Wesb0b on 08-30-2002 09:45 PM:

Fuck you and fuck this movie it sucks balls any way

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Posted by svenbob on 08-30-2002 11:03 PM:

Im sorry wesly, are you on your period..... awww hes getting older every day... this movie owns you FATASS, and get a goddamn life

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One time, my cousin Walter got this cat stuck in his ass. True story. He bought it at our local mall so the whole fiasco wound up on the news, it was embarrassing for my relatives and all, but the next week he did it again, different cat, same results, complete with another trip to the emergency room! So I run into him a week later in the mall and he�s buying another cat and I says to �em "Jesus Walt, what are you doing? You know your just gonna get this cat stuck up your ass too, why don�t you knock it off?" And he says to me "Brodie, how the hell else am I supposed to get the gerbil out?" My cousin was a weird guy....

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Posted by kalvaitis007 on 08-30-2002 11:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by svenbob
Im sorry wesly, are you on your period.....


Sven, if you and your girlfriend are gonna have some sort of domestic dispute please don't do it in public.

Wes, you're an idiot. Stop d/ling movies if you don't get the point of another release.

gallonFREAK, oh geez, another mindless post....(see below)

Everyone else, this is a nice rls. It'll do until a good screener is released (most likely by TCF again ). 7/7/8

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Posted by gallonFREAK on 08-31-2002 12:47 AM:

oh geez ,another minority report

yawn


Posted by svenbob on 08-31-2002 05:35 AM:

i sorry kalavitis... but my bitch needs to know when the keep her.. i mean, his mouth shut

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One time, my cousin Walter got this cat stuck in his ass. True story. He bought it at our local mall so the whole fiasco wound up on the news, it was embarrassing for my relatives and all, but the next week he did it again, different cat, same results, complete with another trip to the emergency room! So I run into him a week later in the mall and he�s buying another cat and I says to �em "Jesus Walt, what are you doing? You know your just gonna get this cat stuck up your ass too, why don�t you knock it off?" And he says to me "Brodie, how the hell else am I supposed to get the gerbil out?" My cousin was a weird guy....

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Posted by ryanrony on 08-31-2002 02:15 PM:

i won't be picking this up because the screener was also very good but still this release is kick ass .

keep up all the good work TCF


Posted by Corrado on 08-31-2002 04:09 PM:

the quality of the picture and sound is fantastic on this rip, except the frame rate is extremely poor and it stutters along. 6/8/9.5

The frame rate drops the first score down.


Posted by Schock on 08-31-2002 04:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cory
Ew, Fear Dot Com. That movie looks as fucking corny as Michael Jackson. I would probably dl it but it looks stupid as hell.


For someone with a scanners avatar you seem like you are a person with some taste in horror, but i guess you are from the scream generation and only chose that avatar because you think its "cool". I bet michael jackson's thriller video scares the shit out of you. LMAO!!!!!!!!!


Posted by kingpin 1 on 08-31-2002 04:40 PM:

WHY?

it really doesnt bother me how many rls they do of a film as long as its better why bitch on how many rls if it takes a hundred to get a good version why not?


Posted by [RaZoR] on 08-31-2002 05:37 PM:

why they dont release this as svcd ... why ...

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Posted by djputout on 08-31-2002 05:57 PM:

Thumbs up

i have all rather buy this dvd in thailand its pretty good
Minority Report (Telecine Vesrion)9.8/9.0 its dvd format nstc
i had buy 100 dvds all rather sold out if dont't belive me
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Posted by vastis on 08-31-2002 07:32 PM:

as long as they include a sample, noone "pays for more than they get" ?

If you look for perfect quality, I recommend the movie theater


Posted by KiNETiK on 08-31-2002 07:39 PM:

Unhappy

Hiya folks,

I just downloaded this movie and was somewhat dissapointed with the quality... the video is a bit choppy and the audio is kinda hollow... you may have a headache after watching it... but, it's still the best rls of this movie to date... how long till the dvd?


Posted by [RaZoR] on 09-01-2002 11:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Corrado
the quality of the picture and sound is fantastic on this rip, except the frame rate is extremely poor and it stutters along. 6/8/9.5

The frame rate drops the first score down.



i agree , dl'ed full and now i see that the frame rate sux...
should be nuked

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Posted by psilocybinC on 09-01-2002 12:13 PM:

Exclamation

Frame rate is the only problem with this release. Wish it could have been better cuz when people move they look like they're going in slow motion or some shit. Still a nice release... keep 'em coming TCF.


Posted by Redemption on 09-01-2002 12:44 PM:

Are all you people who are saying fantastic quality judging by the jpegs because, this is a perfect example of, only judge it by the sample or the whole release.

On anything slow, it looks great, but as soon as it moves its horrible, looks like when i encode a 15fps quicktime trailer to mpeg, the sound is very muffled and sound like mono, plus the aspect ratio is anamorphic, instead of letterbox, not a bad thing if you have a widescreen tv, but still not to everyones taste.

I agree it should be nuked, i got the 2nd CD, im not getting the first, the last one was better, true it looked like a TS in some bits, and had a few audio glitches (I never had a 30sec gap)but the sound was Dolby Surround, but it was very watchable, this hurts your eyes and your ears, the people leave trails behind, if anyone wants to know what this looks like, find a low framerate avi or quicktime file and use tmpeg to encode it to 29fps and you'll see what i mean.

Im dissapointed TCF, its the first time you've wasted my bandwith.

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Posted by Cory on 09-01-2002 03:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Schock


For someone with a scanners avatar you seem like you are a person with some taste in horror, but i guess you are from the scream generation and only chose that avatar because you think its "cool". I bet michael jackson's thriller video scares the shit out of you. LMAO!!!!!!!!!



Eh, Scanners is a great movie and as for taste in horror I don't think a good horror flick would be "Fear Dot Com". The plot sounds childish and stupid but thats just my opinion and others may think different. And as for the "LMAO!!!!!" I seriously hope you weren't laughing your ass off because I don't think anyone on this board even chuckled at your post. Thank you, come again.


Posted by Dr. Poo PhD on 09-01-2002 05:47 PM:

I thought this release was pretty decent, but yeah, the frame rate problem did show a bit. Anyway, definitely the best release so far so take it if you haven't seen it... December should be the month for this on DVD though...

I'd give this release a 8/8/10.

Thanks TCF.


Posted by djkoolaide on 09-01-2002 07:40 PM:

hmm well i have the workprint, i was dissapointed with that, but if i do get another version of this movie then i will just wait for the dvd


Posted by Subzeroed on 09-01-2002 10:55 PM:

Angry Audio is terrible....

You can not even watch this movie the audio is so bad. Video is pretty good but the screener already released by TCF is much better. Why even try to beat a vhs-screener. Especially if you are TCF who has the best rls with vhs-screener. Loved the screener and hated this.....


Posted by plonk420 on 09-01-2002 11:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cory
Ew, Fear Dot Com. That movie looks as fucking corny as Michael Jackson. I would probably dl it but it looks stupid as hell.


FearDotCom was good... if not almost great (considering the genre) save for the fact that Malone ALWAYS fucks up the end with special fx...


Posted by desertboy on 09-03-2002 04:50 PM:

Angry

Frame rate, frame rate, frame rate.


Posted by fluffykiwi on 09-04-2002 02:53 AM:

The frame rate was a bit choppy but not bad enough to spoil the movie, picture quality was fine otherwise, and i had no problems with the sound either.
not perfect but still definitely worth a look.
I enjoyed the film.


Posted by Schock on 09-04-2002 03:55 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cory


Eh, Scanners is a great movie and as for taste in horror I don't think a good horror flick would be "Fear Dot Com". The plot sounds childish and stupid but thats just my opinion and others may think different. And as for the "LMAO!!!!!" I seriously hope you weren't laughing your ass off because I don't think anyone on this board even chuckled at your post. Thank you, come again.
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I'm laughing my ass off at your dumbass


Posted by Antarctica on 09-04-2002 11:32 PM:

I agree the frame rate makes it drag a bit, Ill stick to the screener till the dvdrip.


Posted by Bynemz on 09-05-2002 07:08 PM:

TCF does it again

Once again another awesome release from 1 of the best groups in the biz. U guys are always rockin us with great quality. keep up the good werk. This kills the workprint which was borderline crap but watchable if u want to see it one time and toss the disk away.


Posted by desertboy on 09-05-2002 09:59 PM:

Angry

Having watched the film, I can say the sound is poor, nothing a good amp with noise reduction can't help, but I've already posted about the frame rate, but having watchewd the whole thing I can say that the "Workprint" is better even if the picture quality isn't a patch on this one and it is missing 30 secs.
PS. I was going to drink 24/7's beer but I found out it was actually Kaliber

My advice stick with the "Workprint" or even better go to the cinema and watch it as god intended


Posted by Angkor Wat on 09-05-2002 11:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
Having watched the film, I can say the sound is poor, nothing a good amp with noise reduction can't help, but I've already posted about the frame rate, but having watchewd the whole thing I can say that the "Workprint" is better even if the picture quality isn't a patch on this one and it is missing 30 secs.
PS. I was going to drink 24/7's beer but I found out it was actually Kaliber

My advice stick with the "Workprint" or even better go to the cinema and watch it as god intended



I agree plus you know a dvdrip is coming soon


Posted by xer0mark on 09-08-2002 01:50 AM:

1 - Frame Rate. If you have to convert it to 23 or 29fps in order for it to comply with VCD standards, why the hell dont you shoot it in that framerate in the first place? Maybe TCF was using a slower shutterspeed to achieve the brilliant colors that were achieved in this Telecine, however what is the point when the framerate conversion ruins the watchability of the VCD?

2 - Audio Quality. Crappy encoder? Crappy technique? The audio just plain sucks.

I cant believe anybody would consider releasing this after viewing the final disc.


Posted by gruvn on 09-11-2002 05:24 PM:

not bad

picture quality is great, but strangly jerky.. sound could be much better considering it's a telecine.. 'sounds like you're listening to it inside a barrel or something.. vid = 7 : aud = 6


Posted by VCD XP on 09-13-2002 05:54 AM:

I agree with the others. The framerate is noticeably low, and the audio is difficult to hear. Stick with the Workprint release for now.


Posted by Devnull on 09-15-2002 02:32 AM:

Are we all watching the same VCD? I must say this is very disapointing from what the pics made me think. They should not have released it. First the frame rate is really messed up, isn't that apparent on a computer but sucks on a DVD player. Second the aspect ratio isn't even close. And third the audio is bad to the point where it is painful to watch. I never had the workprint but it had to be better.



Posted by lo.pro on 09-15-2002 10:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by xer0mark
1 - Frame Rate. If you have to convert it to 23 or 29fps in order for it to comply with VCD standards, why the hell dont you shoot it in that framerate in the first place? Maybe TCF was using a slower shutterspeed to achieve the brilliant colors that were achieved in this Telecine, however what is the point when the framerate conversion ruins the watchability of the VCD?

2 - Audio Quality. Crappy encoder? Crappy technique? The audio just plain sucks.

I cant believe anybody would consider releasing this after viewing the final disc.



this post is ridiculous.

first of all, this is a TC, not a TS, so why you're talking about 'shooting' it in the first place is beyond me.

secondly, when you find a video camera that shoots at a frame rate of either 23 OR 29 fps, you let me know. although shutter speed is variable, afaik all video cameras have a framerate of either 25 or 29.976 fps.

the "point" of framerate conversion (if any is done; usually, if the source is ntsc vhs, the framerate is left alone) is to make the vid compliant with vcd standards. in order to do this, it must be either at 23.976 (ntsc-film), 25 (pal), or 29.976 (ntsc).

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