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So who's seen LOTR:TTT then?

as its opening today, thought i'd open the thread for those of us who aren't SKINFLINTS and are going to pay the money for this film. damn im lookin forward to it..

atm, i can't decide whether to get a few drinks down me first or not , to enlighten the experience hehe

back to bed for a nice lie down before 3pm arrives

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Nope, i have tickets booked. Me off to see it tonight.

I couldn't watch a Cam/TS or any rls before seeing it at the theatre. Personally though i'm more looking forward to ROTK as it was my fave of the three books.

p.s: Jackson needs to make another movie like Braindead or Bad Taste next.

Just got back from seeing it....it's around 4am cst....ummm well my opinion of it are as follows(i see bad things for doing this) the first half was slow, not a ton of anything...the second half was much, much better, at the time of seeing it i didn't like the interweaving of battle seen with other plot aspects like Frodo's journey, but the parts they built up duing the battle lead to a larger climactic ending, so on the whole it was better to do it that way instead of everything separate. Let's see....if they didn't film this movie a year in advance i'd say the constant comic relief of Gimli was pretty gimicky...but they intended it to be that way before, so they get a pass on that...this movie also continues the homosexual undertones of frodo and sam (i'm sorry it's just the way it is even if it wasn't meant to be that way) as a whole i definatley liked the first one better, but this one had the best part of them so far, that being the big battle. I'll give the movie an 8.5 out of 10, while the first recieved 10 out of 10...uhh that's about it, i forsaked studying for a final to see this so if those are my option again i'd still see the movie....i say go see it on the big screen, cause cam won't do it justice...but then again you all already knew that

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just got back from the midnight screening and welp it rocks, nope it more than rocks it just left me out of breath. The battle scenes are just omg, the story flows alot better too i thought in this part like fotr was all pan to emotional face moment-->action ad nauseum but this just kinda gells better now dont get me wrong i love fotr hell i've watched it enuff but this one really leaves u feeling like u've been on a three hour rollercoaster i was tingling with anticipation b4 it started and well just plain worn out from exhilliration when it had finished, i thought tree beard was cool, and yup like the hype says gollum is really cool, but the battle scenes are what blew my mind man thats just too much to take in in one screening so wether they like it or not my kids r getting to see it tomorrow after skool (a good excuse for me to see it again) i'm just glad i took a day off work tomorrow to rest up cuz its 4am here and i'm tired to say the least.

i thought on a whole fotr extended gave the movie more depth after watching it a coupla times after it all settles in i found the standard was a little too systematic in its delivery the extended version seemed to flesh out the story and give it more substance, but on first impressions with this movie i dont think it suffers from that it all seems to fit perfectly. And if you thought the fight with the cave troll was impressive in fotr u aint seen nothing yet treebeard rocks Aragorn kicks ass and the beginning of the movie is worth every $$ i paid for it just the first 30 mins alone rocks..

So yup i'll be seeing this again in about 12 hours, i better get into bed with the mrs (she declined to come to the screening) cuz she'll prolly take no pity on me and wake my ass up in 4 hours.

my rating 9 outa 10

yes it rocked saw the mid. screening. cant wait for the vcd so i can watch and watch and watch....

Don't have time to write much, but just got back from the midnight showing. TTT is simply amazing, peter jackson has done it again.

for those who didn't appreciate the first half, must have not loved the first installment of the trilogy. I thought the whole film was fabulous and it only got better with the awe inspiring battle at helms deep.

enjoy every moment of this video, and try to see a screening where there aren't people clapping whenever someone shows up in the nick of time and laughing retardedly at goleum's (sp?) schizophrenia.



I can't wait to go back and see this on the HUGE screen at CINERAMA!!!

My scuppered plan for today.....

I was gonna take the afternoon off work and go see it at the big cinema in town. My assistant phoned in this morning saying she was unwell and was staying off. Usually I'm a pretty easy going guy, but I've been walking around kicking things all day. I've had to stay at work, which means I won't get to see this until Sunday night or Monday now. Bollocks.

Ah well, enjoy.


Billy

PS pHo you can't be seriously thinking about getting tanked up before this????? You'll be bursting for a pish half way through!

I've got my tickets for 8.30 tonight. I thought i'd be a little more excited than i actually am. To be honest i thought the first was a tad over rated!

Ho Hum. We shall see!

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saw TTT at 10pm last night at an advance employee screening. Amazing! I thought the action, the acting, and the story were flawless. Peter Jackson is a god, and nothing can compare to these films. I can't wait to go see it again.

*prays for TCF to release a DVD SCR*

im set to go to the 20:00 screening today... counting the seconds

lets see, its 15:22 now

4 hours 44 minutes until i get to see it, WOO YAY

i could watch Lotr extended to pass the time.. hmmm

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Man, this sucks. When I got tickets to go see the FOTR, I was living in a small town, so it wasn't a problem. I forgot that I was in a college town, and all theatres on opening day are sold out. I'll probably have to see it on Thursday. Me crosses my fingers that something will happen soon

I'm such a procrastinator......

7:41am here, saw it @ 12:01, ended up getting 23 free tickets for 8:00 wednesday showing too due to a fuckup by them :P, wrote a review:

I had one gripe about Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers as did 90% of the people coming out of the theatre did today. We have to wait another whole fucking year to see this finished off.

I would like to start by saying that I was an avid reader of Tolkiens work before the creation of these movies ever began, and being a fan of his works made it harder to like this movie rather than easier. So non-readers should hearten that they'll have no gripes about certain parts in the novel being better than peter jackson has done.

Acting
Superb on all levels, every actor fits absolutely perfectly with their characters, and Andy Serkis has guarunteed himself AT LEAST a nomination for Best Supporting Actor with his voice and motion capture of gollum/smeagol. Aragorn stands out a lot better than he did in Fellowship of the Rings, and you can now really see the hero standing out in him. John Rhys-Davies is the bulk of the movies comic relief with his excellent one-liners, paticularily during the battle at helms deep. Sean Astin and Elijah Wood are at least on par with their previous performances, but unfortunately you do not see too much of Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan.

Cinematography
This is one of the movies many crowning gems. Swooping camera shots that go on forever give you the sense that you're going to fall right out of your seat and into the screen. There is also much fewer close-up shots of the ring it's self, as it's been established in the first movie as the protaganist or antagonist, depending on which way you look at it, in the trilogy.

Graphic Art
Gollum/Smeagol is INCREDIBLE, as you've most likely read in many reviews, he very well could be a real person in costume, this shines paticularily in close-up shots with his face, you see real emotion in his eyes. Throughout the whole movie i could not help but gape at the magnificent work WETA workshop did with him. The Ents while good, just seemed pale when compared to gollum though, so WETA's excellent work diminished much of their other CGI. The 'MASSIVE'system is put into major use in the battle of helms deep and it looks quite awesome, seeing ten's of thousands duke it out, each one actually independently doing their own thing is quite the site to behold.

Musical Score
Probably the weakest point in the movie, i've had an early copy of the score for quite some time and couldn't wait to hear it in sync with the film, but i felt that much of it was an undertone, barring some scenes, whereas in the original film it stood clear and really set the mood to scenes, such as gandalf's death. Howard Shore has still outdone himself and Emiliana Torrini singing 'Gollum's Song' exudes sadness and despair, it would be my personal favorite of the soundtrack.

Overall Impressions
WOW. this movie surpassed it's predecessor in nearly all aspects for me. I had a few minor gripes about the adaption of Faramir, but upon reviewing the matter from Peter Jackson's perspective i can see why he made those changes. I can give no higher praise than PJ has outdone himself and i will walk into Return of the King next december with absolutely full confidence of the movies quality.

Got me tickets for 7:45 showing tonight............just a shame I got flu

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7:41am here, saw it @ 12:01, ended up getting 23 free tickets for 8:00 wednesday showing too due to a fuckup by them :P, wrote a review:

I had one gripe about Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers as did 90% of the people coming out of the theatre did today. We have to wait another whole fucking year to see this finished off.

I would like to start by saying that I was an avid reader of Tolkiens work before the creation of these movies ever began, and being a fan of his works made it harder to like this movie rather than easier. So non-readers should hearten that they'll have no gripes about certain parts in the novel being better than peter jackson has done.

Acting
Superb on all levels, every actor fits absolutely perfectly with their characters, and Andy Serkis has guarunteed himself AT LEAST a nomination for Best Supporting Actor with his voice and motion capture of gollum/smeagol. Aragorn stands out a lot better than he did in Fellowship of the Rings, and you can now really see the hero standing out in him. John Rhys-Davies is the bulk of the movies comic relief with his excellent one-liners, paticularily during the battle at helms deep. Sean Astin and Elijah Wood are at least on par with their previous performances, but unfortunately you do not see too much of Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan.

Cinematography
This is one of the movies many crowning gems. Swooping camera shots that go on forever give you the sense that you're going to fall right out of your seat and into the screen. There is also much fewer close-up shots of the ring it's self, as it's been established in the first movie as the protaganist or antagonist, depending on which way you look at it, in the trilogy.

Graphic Art
Gollum/Smeagol is INCREDIBLE, as you've most likely read in many reviews, he very well could be a real person in costume, this shines paticularily in close-up shots with his face, you see real emotion in his eyes. Throughout the whole movie i could not help but gape at the magnificent work WETA workshop did with him. The Ents while good, just seemed pale when compared to gollum though, so WETA's excellent work diminished much of their other CGI. The 'MASSIVE'system is put into major use in the battle of helms deep and it looks quite awesome, seeing ten's of thousands duke it out, each one actually independently doing their own thing is quite the site to behold.

Musical Score
Probably the weakest point in the movie, i've had an early copy of the score for quite some time and couldn't wait to hear it in sync with the film, but i felt that much of it was an undertone, barring some scenes, whereas in the original film it stood clear and really set the mood to scenes, such as gandalf's death. Howard Shore has still outdone himself and Emiliana Torrini singing 'Gollum's Song' exudes sadness and despair, it would be my personal favorite of the soundtrack.

Overall Impressions
WOW. this movie surpassed it's predecessor in nearly all aspects for me. I had a few minor gripes about the adaption of Faramir, but upon reviewing the matter from Peter Jackson's perspective i can see why he made those changes. I can give no higher praise than PJ has outdone himself and i will walk into Return of the King next december with absolutely full confidence of the movies quality.

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lol i was already cutting out huge amounts, my FoTR review was four pages

just came back, in a total rush to get packed up to go back to my parents place for xmas, and enough people have given some nice indepth reports, so i'll simply say

wow.

darker than the first one, more developed story i'd say (maybe others would say it was "slow" i'd simply say it was more indepth, and the battle scenes were great.

dont have any interest in anything below a dvdscreener or dvdrip, so those moanin for a TS, spend a few bucks for a change eh

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT OWNED


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ps. Emiliana Torrini is icelandic :P
(And it's been hyped up here for months, so bleh)

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Me saw it today too. And it was bloody excellent!

Right...Well i just saw it and... hmm... 'Meh!'

It was ok. Nothing more. Nothing less.

The fight scenes were cool. Those sodding trees were annoying tho.

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i just got home from it... it's goddamn amazing...

like said before gollum is unbelievably realistic... and the action is superb...

the acting is kinda lame, and the orcs talking english is a downer... especially since this is wicked cheesy lines... but other than that.. it's AMAZING the Ent's... i thought they would be horrible.. but they pulled it off, the Inengard Battle is almost better than the Helm's Deep battle.

oops... i smoked when i wrote this... so i was zoning

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Pho i got a Question-first i didnt see any lotr releases right i was thinking great there makeing, it so no one can ruin the movie except for the damn french-- anyways i relized newfxp holey shit, so dvdscr or dvdrip is what i want

I'm sad to say that I'm not all "OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG THAT WAS AWESOME OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG" like I expected to be. It feels like the movie had a much different feel to it, one that wasn't specifically a good feel.

First off, it turned into a bit of a comedy at some point. Gimli was constantly cracking jokes or being put in funny situations, and while they were certainly funny, some hilarious, they detracted from making this movie so much of an epic.
I really didn't like how the orcs suddenly developed language skills and started to act more like beings. I liked them better as mindless killing machines sweeping across the land destroying all that is good.
Somehow, the Battle of Helm's Deep, while being the most fuggin' awesome thing of the year, didn't draw me in as much as I would like. I would've prefered more zoomed out shots that tried to take my breath away rather than a bunch of up close shots of things I could barely decipher. The action, however, was great. When they got into it and started fighting, and would show Aragorn/Gimli/Legolas start to wail on the bad guys, I was very impressed.
There were a bunch of little oddities that didn't make sense, like "WTF, why didn't they just do that in the first place?" One I noted was that Frodo at one point wanted to sneak in behind a small detachment that was going back into Valador while the gate was still open. I found it kinda retarded that he considered it so seriously. There were only about 50 orcs scanning for people and he would've been walking in the middle of a plain flat rocky field, dunno how he planned to just float by all those wandering eyes.
But eh, enough bashing of an otherwise spectacular movie. Go see it now. I'm also submitting plans to local VCD groups to put subliminal programming in their CAMs and TSs to tell all the people useless enough to actually watch that kind of copy to kill themselves. :P

My review puts it at a 9.9/10

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the Inengard Battle is almost better than the Helm's Gate battle.

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I've got to say I got the same response as the rest, and will keep my review short and sweet with my likes and dislikes *THINGS RESEMBELING SPOILERS*

Likes:

Gimli's Jokes
Golem In General
The Battle Sequence at the End
Sam. That Dude is SO cool
Ents
Liv Tyler's Ass
Most everything Else

Dislikes:

Gimli's Jokes
Slow Begining
Everyone dying and coming back... That was worn out on Gandalf.
Wormtongue
Lack of Merry and Pippin
Frodo, hes such a pussy!
That one Elf's death scene.... spittin image of Boromirs!
The fact that it wasn't as good as "Fellowship"
The scene were they're cloak looks like a rock. That was STUPID

9/10

Note, these bashings are mininmal to the whole story, and the movie over was EXCELLENT, i just noticed these things and they kinda bothered me.

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this movie also continues the homosexual undertones of frodo and sam

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I to had a problem with the sudden development of 'proper english accents' among the orcs... I thought the ents looked a little weird but over all were great considering I consider the ents to be almost un filmable and that was a great attempt! I thought all that added stuff with Faramir was just un-needed. I also noticed that every single big character in the movie was resolved to the opposite of what we (the audience) want and then suddenly at the last minute changed their minds (i.e. Treebeard, Theoden, Faramir etc.). Over all it was a great movie and to me seems at least the equal to Fellowship.

Man, I don't see how you can bash the CG used on Golum. It was pretty damn incredible from my point of view. After seeing him for just a few seconds I knew why everyone was so impressed by it. He mixed in with the rest of the movie EXTREMELY well. It's not perfect yet, no CG really is, but it's damn amazing. I love how with simple facial expressions and a voice change they were able to make him alternate between good/evil/good/evil back and forth effectively. His dual personalities almost look like different models all together. Anyways, he rocks.

I've seen the movie yesterday. After seeing fotr i read the 3 books, so that changed my view completely on entering the theatre. Offcourse i had created my own views on things, eg. the Ents we're one of my favourite parts of the book. The friendship that grows between Legolas and Gimli were also a part i thought would be great in the movie.
So alot of expections when the movie started. The beginning was great, with Gandalf fighting the Balrog. The riders of Rohan we're also one of my favourite things in the book, and the movie didn't dissapointed me. They looked exactly like i imagined them (gj peter).
I won't go deep into the things i liked about the movie, because they are too many. So i will explain the things i didn't like.
The jokes from Gimli's side were sometimes funny, but sometimes misplaced. The people that didn't read the book will appreciate them i guess. The Ents were, well, in my opinion dissapointing. The split in the book where a part goes to the battle and in the morning suddenly a forest stands behind the orcs is left out. And the attack on Isengard i imagined seeing the forest get to life slowly, moving like a thunderstorm towards Isengard. The few skinny Ents that walk out of the forest in the movie are in my opinion dissapointing.
Gollum is GREAT, no question about it. No remarks on him.
The fake death of Aragorn could have been left out imho. We've allready seen Gandalf, Merry and Pippin return. And the sequence where he rides on his horse, more death then alive back to Helm's Deep is crap.
And there are a few other things, (eg. Elrond/Galadriel telepathy, elves helping in battle, faramir turning evil, history of ents being left out, no emotional impressing introduction of aragorn as future king and more) but i can explain them best with the following explenation: In the fotr things being changed or left out were understandable. I would do the same if i was the director. But in TTT there are too many things which i would have done different, and are not really understandable. (only applies when you've read the book(s). People that haven't read them will have a great time and won't notice it)

lotr: fotr -> 9.5/10
lotr: TTT -> 9/10

i think most of the general criticisms come down to three points :

1. peter jackson is a low budget horror director. hell, near the opening scene where theres about 20 orcs coming thru the hills, could've been right out of Bad Taste!

2. the movie is long enough as it is. if they'd included the points of the books that people would like to be included, they would've had to remove other sections to keep it under about 5 hours long!

3. simply, you can't please everyone. remember, theres always going to be a percentage of people who are there to see a movie, and a percentage of people who are going to see a movie adaptation of a book. the different groups want different things. personally, i've chosen to read the books afterwards as then i can't be disappointed!

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I very much liked the book, and i very much like the movie..

I went in yesterday to see a movie! and i got one! YAY

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ttt is..

after seeing fotr about a thousand times i waited in anticipation of ttt.

pj has blown me away with his visualisation of middle earth. all the people and locations in the film are stunning.

the book was however butchered for this film.

the ents seem like jay & silent bob go wizard whacking compared to the deep and sad creatures you will find in the book.

faramir was the good guy now he's boromirs bastard lovechild.

the elves didn't get involved in this war. the lotr is about the dawn of men. it is not the dawn of men with a few hundred elven archers at helms deep.

however i am a complete tolkein fanatic and read both the lotr and the silmarillion every year and this film still surpassed anything i think i will see until the next one..


matrix2+3 don't count as they are sure to be pure art.

All right, well I finally saw the movie this morning, and so here are my comments:

Overall the movie just blew me away. All the graphics absolutely amazing. Star Wars looked like Pixar movie compared to this. I liked how you could actually see the blood vessel reflections in gollums eyes.

Some of you guys felt that it had a slow beginning. I too felt this at the beginning. (It sped up for me when Legolas jumped on the horse with Gimli when they were attacking the wolves). When this is actually going to be seen like PJ invisioned (1 9 hour block), I don't think that we will notice it at all.

Another thing you guys disliked was that the orcs could actually speak.....Hmmm, PJ didn't make this up, they could speak all along in the book.

Gimli's jokes - True, Gimli did seem like he was never serious, but he was always made to seem that way in the book. I don't know if you guys were upset about the way he acted during the battle for Helm's deep, but that was almost exactly how it was written in the book (Legolas in Gimli having a contest).

The Ents - How can you guys not like them? They ruled big time!
Oh, and there were not just a few skinny ents coming out of the forest to destroy Isengard. If I remember right, I never saw an end.

All right, there were a few things that I didn't quite like.

First, what the men soldiers for Mordor looked like. I was having major flashbacks of Ninja Gaiden.

Aragorn dying. Didn't quite see the point of it, but I can deal with it.

Faramir's whole role. He completly went on some side story to Osgiligath that made no sense to me. It was cool and everything, but I didn't see what PJ was getting at. Maybe it will fit better with the 3rd one. Oh, that gets me to another point. I think PJ did a great thing by leaving the two ending sequences(Shelob and Gandalf talking to Sauraman) for ROTK. ROTK is obviously smaller, and he was able to fit much more material in this way. Seriously, this movie could of been 9 hours by itself easily.

Oh, I was also dissapointed that I didn't hear the Requim for a dream music in there. That just sounded so cool in the trailer

Besides that, everything rocked.

Overall: 9.5/10
FOTR: 10/10

I think that if it's one thing we learned, if the movie industry wants to make money(edit: a lot more money), they need to a make a movie that will get people to actually pay for a ticket, and buy the DVD. Which is why I suggest if not for this one, then the next one, we should all go to the theatres several times, and give it the box-office record.(Titanic....Seriously, why is it at the top?)

Well I went to go see the movie tuesday night at 11:59 for the premiere.. they had a lot of cool prize give aways, a years pass to UA theatres and a dude actually won a 500$ replica ring.. but I wasnt all that impressed with the movie itself. It seemed to me that they had to rely on CGI and humour( mainly manifested in Gimlie's character) to relate the story line, so i came away with the feeling that the movie could have been much better like the original. But everyone else i talked to thought the movie was really good, so i went back to see it again tonight.. and even after a quarter liter of voodka it wasnt as good as it should have been.. so I stand by my original opinoin that allthough the movie was OK, but it could have been much better had they stuck to the book.

The thing that I didn't really like about Gimli's jokes and the orcs speaking was that it happened so suddenly in the second movie. In the first the orcs were mindless killing machines, and I thought, "Okay, the orcs are mindless killing machines." Now out of nowhere they seem to have individual personalities and emotions beyond the the basic instinct to kill everything. The same with Gimli's jokes, I laughed in the first one because of Gimli's need for battle. Like when they're about to get in the cave troll scene and everyone is kinda worried and preparing to fight and Gimli is just standing there with his axes drawn saying, "Let them come." I was entertained by his need to kick ass. The part of the contest that was in the book was actually funny without detracting from the seriousness of the film. I could've seen Gimli from FOTR doing exactly that. It's just all of the other jokes that involved him that didn't really appeal to me.

So the orcs speaking isn't bad. Gimli's jokes aren't bad. It's just the instant change from one movie to the next that kinda rains on my parade of continuity.

it was pretty close to the book, except for a FEW things, but i still thought the movie was INSANE. whats the BIG deal with orcs speaking? they could speak in the book, so why not in the movie?
someone said something about the movie relying on CGi, well what do u think, how else are u supposed to film 10,000+ soldiers? how else are u gonna bring the ents to life? im a huge fan of star wars and i know that LOTR and STAR WARS are completely different, but imo the LOTR movies completely destroyed EP1 and EP2 in every aspect.

jedi420 is quite correct - amazing movie. But, like anything, you will always get the anally retentive people arguing they are not quite like the books.

holy shit
what a movie

10/10

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dunno why everyone is bashing on the ENTS and CGI. I thought the ENTS were tight, though there were a few scenes where the picture of the dudes riding on the big trees back looked bad... aka it was poorly done.

and i found gollums CGIness almost flawless. it's much better than if a person were to try to reinact (sp?) him.

I saw it yesterday on theather... I never been lotr-fan, and I watched Fellowship of the Ring -DVD a week ago, and excpected the same from TTT... I was a bit disappointed...
the Gollum was beautiful work. 10/10 of it.
but why all the humor??? IMO, this kind of sarcastic humor doesn't belong to this kind of movie.

and the scene where legolas skiis down with medal plate like a snowboard... usch.. =/ They should leave that to JamesBond films and do serious stuff for this movie...

Well, the 3rd part is going to be either DVDSCR or DVD for me, not to theatre.

FOTR: 9/10
TTT: 7/10

So its called THE TWO TOWERS....... but yet what Two Towers do they speak of?

Like is the where the red eye is at? Or the bad guy the white wizard guy hangs out at? Or Helm's Deep?

They didnt say nothing bout Two Towers. Id figure it be like the WTC building, side by side doing something.

:: saurons tower and sarumons tower. i apologise for the spelling. they should've named them Chas and Dave to make it easier for me -pHo

Isengard and Bharad^Dum (or something like that, been a while since i read the books)

argh, double post...wouldnt let me delete it

After a discussion I had on here I decided to go back and re-read The LotR, at the end of the fellowship it says "The second part is called THE TWO TOWERS, since the events recounted in it are dominated by ORTHANC, the citadel of Saruman, and the fortress of MINAS MORGUL that guards the secret entrance to Mordor; it tells of the deeds and perils of all the members of the now sundered fellowship, until the coming of the Great Darkness.
The third part tells of the last defence against the Shadow, and the end of the mission of the Ring-bearer in THE RETURN OF THE KING." Excluding Shelob and thus excluding Minas Morgul the movie changed it to Barad-dûr and Orthanc to allow the title to make sense...

I thought this movie was pretty crummy. This could've been a so-so 2 hour movie, but no...Peter Jackson had to make it an "epic." In doing so, the movie became drawn out and tedious to watch in my eyes. Perhaps the second book just wasn't fit for a film adaptation as the first one was. I can only hope that number 3 returns to what they had going on in Fellowship.
Golem was good enough on his own. He was the only character I actually cared for in the whole film. The scene that was funniest to me was the first real conversation he had with himself in the forrest. That was classic. That kind of stuff works...you can laugh at how sincere the scene is, and how well its done, as opposed to the comedy that comes in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Who cares how hyped the picture is. Get real, 2 guys riding around on a tree for 3 friggin hours is STUPID. It looks stupid as well. And the whole notion of the fellowhip's journey is barely touched on. They go around in circles in what seem to be the same landscapes fighting pretty lame battles.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the battle of Helm's Deep was in the third book. No wonder Jackson decided to bring it to the second movie. It needed that extra umph. And IMO, Helms Deep didn't even do that. They turned what should've been a classic scene into an overall uninteresting thing to watch. I'm assuming that that battle was supposed to be the movie's climax. what a joke. It proves that Peter Jackson knew this movie needed something else.
I'm not in any way biased against Lord of The Rings. I thought that the first one was great. And i'm also not one of those guys who read the books and can now appreciate the movies more. I'm just a moviegoer who appreciates good film making, no matter where the story is rooted (plays, novels etc). And I consider the two towers to be an example of loose filmmaking. It was not held together well, and all the respect the fellowship of the ring had garnered in my mind came falling down pretty hard once the credits started to roll on this movie.
The Golden Globe nomination for best picture on this one blows me away. This movie doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell winning that award, and it sure as hell doesn't deserve the nod.

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TWO TOWERS is named for the union between Isengard, stronghold of Sauraman, and Barad Dur, Fortress of The Dark lord Sauron. Nothing to do with Minus Morgul and/or Minus Ithil

uhh helms deep was in book 2
and about them riding the ents, uhh that was in the book also

I think what cccmmm meant when he complained about the Ent-riding was how many scenes we saw of it. Generally, whenever the Ents were around, the mood was set to a slow almost held back sort of environment. I didn't mind the Ents talking or being slow, but it seems like whenever they were on screen the entire movie started to go slow. As we all know, TTT was in no way in danger of being too short. In a movie like this it's more than common to say, "That scene moves a little too slow, drop it." But they didn't seem to do that with this one.

Also, The Battle of Helm's Deep was seriously not as good as I had hoped it was going to be. It was still great and all, but after awhile it just got boring. I can only see so many orcs get stomped on before something new has to happen. I guess it's the equivalent of if Gladiator's opening scene had taken up half the movie instead of just the opening sequence. It was a great and massive scene, but kept itself short after it knew we were tired of seeing Russell Crowe roll people.

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errr

TWO TOWERS is named for the union between Isengard, stronghold of Sauraman, and Barad Dur, Fortress of The Dark lord Sauron. Nothing to do with Minus Morgul and/or Minus Ithil

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I thought this movie was pretty crummy. This could've been a so-so 2 hour movie, but no...Peter Jackson had to make it an "epic." In doing so, blah blah blah

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TTT rocked

i've seen it twice in the theaters and have the cam version, i loved it, heh i even watched my extended dvd of fellowship then watched the vcd of towers, hell yeah, does anyone know where to find that new pdvd version, it looks great, heh

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does anyone know where to find that new pdvd version, it looks great, heh

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i've seen it twice in the theaters and have the cam version, i loved it, heh i even watched my extended dvd of fellowship then watched the vcd of towers, hell yeah, does anyone know where to find that new pdvd version, it looks great, heh

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Saw it at the theatre for the 2nd time tonight. A fine movie.

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I once thought that too, but like I said after a discussion on here I went and re-read the books and read the evidence that was given to me http://members.cts.com/king/e/erikt/tolkien/2towers.htm. But you cannot deny what Tolkien himself drew on the original books and what he himself wrote at the end of the Fellowship to conclude it and move on to The Two Towers...

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Great movie I love long movies you get more for your money just wish half way in between they would have like a 10 minute break cuz man your ass fucking hurts after watching that movie in theater chairs that long. Maybe I don't got enough fat in my ass

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The movie is obviously relates the Two Towers to the union of Barad-Dur and Isengard though, it even does a voice-over of it in film when Sauraman is speaking through the Palantir to Sauron, he claims the union between Isengard and Barad-Dur.

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Originally posted by cccmmm
I thought this movie was pretty crummy. This could've been a so-so 2 hour movie, but no...Peter Jackson had to make it an "epic." In doing so, the movie became drawn out and tedious to watch in my eyes. Perhaps the second book just wasn't fit for a film adaptation as the first one was. I can only hope that number 3 returns to what they had going on in Fellowship.
Golem was good enough on his own. He was the only character I actually cared for in the whole film. The scene that was funniest to me was the first real conversation he had with himself in the forrest. That was classic. That kind of stuff works...you can laugh at how sincere the scene is, and how well its done, as opposed to the comedy that comes in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Who cares how hyped the picture is. Get real, 2 guys riding around on a tree for 3 friggin hours is STUPID. It looks stupid as well. And the whole notion of the fellowhip's journey is barely touched on. They go around in circles in what seem to be the same landscapes fighting pretty lame battles.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the battle of Helm's Deep was in the third book. No wonder Jackson decided to bring it to the second movie. It needed that extra umph. And IMO, Helms Deep didn't even do that. They turned what should've been a classic scene into an overall uninteresting thing to watch. I'm assuming that that battle was supposed to be the movie's climax. what a joke. It proves that Peter Jackson knew this movie needed something else.
I'm not in any way biased against Lord of The Rings. I thought that the first one was great. And i'm also not one of those guys who read the books and can now appreciate the movies more. I'm just a moviegoer who appreciates good film making, no matter where the story is rooted (plays, novels etc). And I consider the two towers to be an example of loose filmmaking. It was not held together well, and all the respect the fellowship of the ring had garnered in my mind came falling down pretty hard once the credits started to roll on this movie.
The Golden Globe nomination for best picture on this one blows me away. This movie doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell winning that award, and it sure as hell doesn't deserve the nod.

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