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08-13-2003 more letters.. yay me

I've attempted to contact this guy several times to no avail.. and he dosent seem like he's going away.. oh well..
-X69

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RE: YOUR INFRINGEMENT OF PARAMOUNT PICTURES CORPORATION RIGHTS

Dear Sir or Madam:

To date we have not received a response to our letter of July 29, 2003. As you can
understand, this is an important matter to Paramount Pictures, Inc. and we would like
a response at your earliest convenience. Should you fail to respond, we will have no option but
to recommend that our client take further legal action against you.

Additionally, we note that you are aware of your illegal acts, as demonstrated by
the fact that you have posted our prior letters on your web site located at, www.vcdquality.com,
and requested comments from users. As such, you may be liable for additional damages
resulting from your, ongoing, willful infringement.

This letter is not a complete statement of Paramount's rights in connection with this matter, and nothing contained herein constitutes an express or implied waiver of any rights, remedies, or defenses of Paramount in connection with this matter, all of which are expressly reserved.

Very truly yours,

/s/

Dennis L. Wilson
Keats McFarland & Wilson LLP

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One more reason to hate Dennis L Wilson...

http://www.filmtracks.com/special/moulin_rouge02.shtml

And...

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"I love the Power Glove. Its so bad."

http://www.mr-nasty.net/futurama/

And...

http://www.mustreadtv.com/buffyscripts/foxletter.html

And...

http://www.moorstation.org/typoasis/cwars/buff.html
^---there you go x69

And...

http://www.negcap.com/NC3/letter_6.html

And...

http://www.newsaskew.com/supesmail/

And...

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/christian.bruel/cnd1.htm
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/christian.bruel/cnd2.htm

And...

http://www.blauvelt.com/simpsons/

Im am really surprised that Paramount would go to such a bottom feeding lawyer such as Wilson. I will soon be starting a website with resources on how to counter-act such a pathetic, script-reading monkey in a suit...

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"I love the Power Glove. Its so bad."

Dennis L. Wilson is a shemale who talks ouuta hiz ass.. and if he has a problem wit this site or X69 he has a problem wit everyone on this board.. soo Dennis keep it up and I will pay you a lil vist and and wont be where you work.. it'll be at your house and i'll break both your arms and legs and put you in a wheelchair.. so you wont be able to send your lil gay ass letters..feel me?


truly yours
J Sadistik

Bah, just take the damn pictures. Who cares? It's not worth putting the site, or anyone who runs it in jeopardy.. this site is invaluable to many of us and a fucking 100kb .jpeg image isn't going to effect it as much as a lawsuit is.

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Originally posted by DethStar
Bah, just take the damn pictures. Who cares? It's not worth putting the site, or anyone who runs it in jeopardy.. this site is invaluable to many of us and a fucking 100kb .jpeg image isn't going to effect it as much as a lawsuit is.

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hmm is it illegal for me to show my lack of caring if this retard was accidentally killed in a boating accident?

the fact i know he's reading turns me on for some reason.

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563-773-1880

<Dwaggy> i caught you a delicious Bass
<The404> This is because you are an idiot

Dennis why dont you make an account and post with us :P We'd love to listen to you talk out of your ass some more!

He probably doesnt know how to register, i mean hell, he doesnt know how to read that you CANT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING HERE...

anyways, best of luck x69..

yes somehow this is special.

"we will have no option but
to recommend that our client take further legal action against you. "

sounds like he just goes and finds what his 'clients'... find improper in their fine print.. and then.. recommends them to certain sites.. to make a living..

go back to ambulance chasing. u fuck.

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NFO Jones stole my bike

I so wish I lived in Cali. I would just love to make this guy's place of work completely unusable in my own special way. Mmmmm ... dead rodentia.

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Scrobble all you want, we'll make more!

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Additionally, we note that you are aware of your illegal acts, as demonstrated by the fact that you have posted our prior letters on your web site located at, www.vcdquality.com, and requested comments from users. As such, you may be liable for additional damages resulting from your, ongoing, willful infringement.

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"I love the Power Glove. Its so bad."

Send a reply, by certified mail. It looks like he's trying to set you up as being non-responsive. It doesn't count if you call, all that counts is what you can produce....ie: a certified letter with a return receipt.

-K

:: On second thought. I don't know what the hell this guy is doing. It looks like he's jumped firms, or something. Maybe you should demand some credentials like that one guy did. -K::

hahahha i called dennis and left a message on hiz voice mail told him to lick my hariy nutsack lol yeah its kiddish but hes a bitch i wanted to let em know.. if ya wanna call this prick and tell him off (make sure u use *67)

Dennis L. Wilson, Esq.
Keats McFarland & Wilson LLP
9720 Wilshire Boulevard
Penthouse Suite
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
Tel: (310) 248-3830
Fax: (310) 860-0363

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Originally posted by J Sadistik
if ya wanna call this prick and tell him off (make sure u use *67)

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Originally posted by J Sadistik

Fax: (310) 860-0363

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I dont understand this guy. What 'illegal acts' are being 'demonstrated' on this site?

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what a prick, wish i had a fax machine around here...

X69, I would follow kalvaitis's advice and send him a letter through certified mail. At least then you can prove you tried to contact captain fuckhead.

for those that want a cheap fast way of harrassing this guys fax machine...try:

http:\\www.uk-software.com/interfax


:P

mods if ur gonna delete this at least leave me a pm as to why..thx

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Originally posted by PhreakerX
Uh, no... Unsolicated email is your property. X69 could do whatever he wants with it...

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"Allen is having a small problem and needs help adjusting his additude" - Flutterby
"K meet of a the have we come in" - fisher @ SummaDayze '04, wtf?

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Originally posted by ^Om3n
Exactly.

All they are trying to do is scare you into shutting down the site so the general public do not know what is floating around, as a means of reducing the spread of releases. (so they can potentially make more money on ticket/home sales of films)

Its a news site morons, don't see you bitching at film reviews sites that give your films bad reviews, i mean, that would cause more loss of 'potential sales' don't ya think?

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Originally posted by Davy
What you wanna do is get a few A-4 Sheets of paper, write "WE LOVE VCDQUALITY.COM" on it, and then selotape it into a loop (one end to another, to another etc), and then fax it over and over to him :P, waste all his paper etc etc, I'm not in the U.S so i think Long distance would be outta the question for me lol.

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L A B _ R A T

I bet his fax machine is pink too... seriously... with a rainbow sticker that says PRIDE!

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"I love the Power Glove. Its so bad."

X69- Any updates?

I don't understand why he has all these links. These I could consider an infringement, because they are from the original movie.

http://www.vcdquality.com/image.php?id=16662
http://www.vcdquality.com/image.php?id=16581

These I don't.

http://www.vcdquality.com/info.php?id=16662
http://www.vcdquality.com/info.php?id=16581
http://www.vcdquality.com/info.php?id=16571

http://www.vcdquality.com/nfo.php?id=16662
http://www.vcdquality.com/nfo.php?id=16581
http://www.vcdquality.com/nfo.php?id=16571

Only thing that could be infringing would be the "cover", which is hotlinked from imdb. If they have a problem with it, they should contact that site.

As for the letter, you could consider it spam. I'm sure there are laws against that in Cali. If he is serious, he can contact you via snail mail.

I would remove the images if you don't want to get into a legal battle. We could do without images, and might help the ratings on movies, by taking out the pic raters.

Ok Dennis, will keep that in mind. thanks for registering though...

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"I love the Power Glove. Its so bad."

laughing my ass off at PhreakerX hahaha :0

hahaha lol phreakerx , your prolly right, u can never trust these guys with like 1 or 2 posts anymore

You can call Wilson through an operator any time for free.
http://www.sprintrelayonline.com/

scare tactics are so preschool

Let's see... so the lawyer of a big bad movie company who wants everyone to pay money to keep them (movie company) employed dislikes their threatening letters published on a website and won't send you a letter to your home address, yet wants you to send him (read: slimy lawyer, oh careful that might be "slander") a letter admitting to wrong doing? Good thing it's not a classic scare tactic or anything ... ugh.

The reason he won't send you a letter to your home address is very simple actually... he hasn't got it. They never do. They set the trap with a letter stating all the wrong doing that you've supposedly done, then threaten you to sign and agree to it or else they'll take your website down. If they could take your website down, they would have done it by now. If they were truly interested in prosecuting you, they would have sent you a certified letter by standard U.S. mail rather than by anonymous and unverifiable (and in this case unresponsive) email. The pure and simple truth is that it costs more money to track you down and get your legal home address than it does to simply send you a form letter (read: email) and have you do all the hard work for them (i.e. supplying your home address). For all this "lawyer" knows, you may reside outside of the United States and in fact live in a country in which copyright laws do not exist. It doesn't take a task force to find the email address of the administrator of a website which is dedicated to the sharing of knowledge and information, it takes an IQ of 50 which apparently this lawyer just barely has.

I strongly suggest the following:

1.) Ignore the threats made by the anonymous individual who refuses to acknowledge your emails.
2.) Inform the anonymous emailer that if the spam (non requested emails) continue, their email address will be blocked due to ignoring your request to cease and desist all threatening emails.
3.) If the harassing spam continues, you will have no choice but to report them to their ISP for failure to comply with their ISPs Terms of Service which include a "No Spam" policy as is standard practice for all ISPs.
4.) Retrieve the IP address from the offender's email and block it on your firewall so as to avoid any possible attempts at hacking as inferred by the harassing emails.
5.) As stated in #4 beware of any hacking attempts, you may have no choice but to report the offender to the FBI as a possible hacker or a person affiliated with hackers/malicious computer users.
6.) Immediately implement a new safety procedure to protect fellow site visitors which includes but is not limited to:
a.) Required login prior to entrance to site which includes a "no fault", "privacy" and "harassment" clause which must be agreed upon in order to view materials within site
b.) Block/redirect any known offensive/possibly hostile IP addresses in order to ensure a safe and enjoyable experience for your users
c.) Non-Disclosure Agreement on file for all visitors to your website and all affiliated websites -- may be incorporated as part of (a).

It is further advisable to get in contact with the head of PR and/or Legal at the inferred "client" company to advise them of threatening letters being sent supposedly on their behalf to their customers. I do not believe that the "client" would appreciate letters such as the one the offending individual has emailed to be published in a public forum or newspaper. It is apparent that the offending individual did not want the emails published on your website due to their threatening nature. These emails could significantly hurt tickets sales if submitted to a widely read publication by one of your users or perhaps even by the offending individual himself. It is common courtesy to let the "client" company know the type of potential PR damage and potential revenue loss which is being done supposedly in their name, they may then take appropriate legal action against the offender.

Wow, somebody sure studied their laws.

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"Allen is having a small problem and needs help adjusting his additude" - Flutterby
"K meet of a the have we come in" - fisher @ SummaDayze '04, wtf?

wahoo alex2 is gona save vcdQ

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L A B _ R A T

Ownt.

i had a very similarly worded mail myself a few years ago. not gonna go into details about it, but i told them in kinder words to "go fuck themselves" and i never heard from em again. (wasn't columbia, different studio, similar letter)

don't forget to read BoH for slanderous comments against said dumbass lawyer. boh , where the children run free and say rude and untrue things.

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563-773-1880

<Dwaggy> i caught you a delicious Bass
<The404> This is because you are an idiot

That letter cofferscuffs sent is TOO funny pHo hahahaha everyone should go to boxofhate.com and read that!

Yeah, everyone should check out that phone convo at the end too, that's fucking great.

Pointing oout the obvious, yet again. Removing the pictures or anything else in question could be construed as an act of addmitting guilt. In other words, Fuck you Dennis, you blood sucking bitch.

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:: On second thought. I don't know what the hell this guy is doing. It looks like he's jumped firms, or something. Maybe you should demand some credentials like that one guy did. -K::

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Im am really surprised that Paramount would go to such a bottom feeding lawyer such as Wilson. I will soon be starting a website with resources on how to counter-act such a pathetic, script-reading monkey in a suit...

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LOL

LOL, a bunch of children discussing "lame" behaviour. You guys don't really think someone isnt breaking copyright when you publish screenshots like crazy?
Cuz if you do i'm pretty sorry for you.
But I guess the posting of Sic0 made it clear how retarded most guys here are. Just insulting anyone and posing as the 1337 superhero isnt helping a lot, maybe in his own little 14 year old universe, but definately not in a case like that lol.

do you wanna fight ?

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Originally posted by CoWs`
do you wanna fight ?

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yeh really, seriously simson, if you talk shit i will beat the living ass out of you...

Re: LOL

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Originally posted by simson
You guys don't really think someone isnt breaking copyright when you publish screenshots like crazy?

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I haven't been an avid visitor to vcdquality as long as most people here, but I just want to add my 2 cents.

I agree that the letter was very distasteful, and could have been worded differently. But I do see how they can call the JPEG images infringement on their copyrights. If I were in the position of webmaster I probably would remove the JPEGs from the site as the site would still be the great site it is without them.

The latest letter states that "we would like a response at your earliest convenience" but when attempts to contact him prove futile that says to me that these letters are just meant to scare.

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Paramount has recently learned that you are offering and/or distributing unauthorized copies of Paramount Motion Picture Properties through your web site located at "http://www.vcdquality.com."

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This is a release news site only. It is impossible to download anything except jpeg samples from this site. Please DO NOT e-mail me asking where/how to download/buy anything mentioned on this site. Thanks -X69

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::Wrong Answer. We don't need people like you here. -K::

i wanted to see wat simson said

So did i.

I don't believe there are copyright laws that take into account still shots from a film. Unless the shots are taken and distributed by the film studio. However i am not an expert in the least, and could be wrong.

ps. Kal has pMs so please excuse his rashness, ha.

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"Allen is having a small problem and needs help adjusting his additude" - Flutterby
"K meet of a the have we come in" - fisher @ SummaDayze '04, wtf?

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unauthorized copies of Paramount Motion Picture Properties

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Originally posted by BJQStorm
The movie companies say that piracy is why they are losing money.

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No its text messaging on cell phones. Thats their new claim.

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the part i love is that the movie companies try to disguise the failure of poor movies with poor excuses such as "txt messaging ruins the film industry." WHY NOT MAKE QUALITY MOVIES? bastards

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Originally posted by Raver758
yes TELESYNC and CENTR0PY are teaming up!

Alex Wilson (man or weevil?)

Seems strange to me that 3 months have gone by and they've done nothing? A while ago Fox were shutting down sites left right and centre just for printing spoilers about buffy the vampire slayer!!!?

I doubt Paramount would be any different if they beleived that they had a case? surely they would have contacted your host and got them to shut you down while pending investigation at least??

and finally its Tomb Raider 2 for gawd sakes !!

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Originally posted by MavyN
He probably doesnt know how to register, i mean hell, he doesnt know how to read that you CANT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING HERE...

anyways, best of luck x69..

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paramount

Hmm, it seems paramount has some sand in their vagina about you hosting pictures of 'bootleg' movies...
I'd be a dick and burn a cd full of pictures and mail it to them.
It might be worth it to remove the pics and replace them with copyrighted ones...

Re: paramount

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Originally posted by Stroh
Hmm, it seems paramount has some sand in their vagina about you hosting pictures of 'bootleg' movies...
I'd be a dick and burn a cd full of pictures and mail it to them.
It might be worth it to remove the pics and replace them with copyrighted ones...

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Lmao, right!!

Besides, doing that would give them the grounds they need to prosecute, not the smartest of moves to make.

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"Allen is having a small problem and needs help adjusting his additude" - Flutterby
"K meet of a the have we come in" - fisher @ SummaDayze '04, wtf?

Dennis's E-mail

Dennis L Wilson's e-mail:

[email protected]

Please e-mail this bum

K-Dawg

Lots of Reading

X69, not really sure if you are still receiving those letters. I do believe that they don’t have anything that they can do to your site, just as long as you don’t post those jpgs yourself (let someone else post those jpg for you – with or without your knowledge – as what the following case was presided on).
I am not sure either whether you have read the case of United States of America VS. David LaMacchia, wherein he was charged with copyright laws as being a Sysop of a BBS which was distributing bootleg software, but was later on dismissed. It’s an old case, not sure if the law has changed.
United States of America VS. David LaMacchia
Here are some arguments that his lawyer mentioned:

It is well-known that certain classified
advertisements for "_dating services_" found commonly in
some newspapers are really covers for high-class
*prostitution* rings. Yet only the people who actually
run the prostitution services are prosecuted for those
violations of law. Editors and publishers of the
newspapers are *not* prosecuted on some legal theory
that their classified sections -- and therefore they
themselves -- somehow "aided" or "conspired with" the
prostitution rings in the criminal prostitution
enterprise, even if the editors and publishers were well
aware of the fact that their newspapers were being mis-
used for an illegal purpose.

It is well-known that gambling "numbers" syndicates
utilize newspaper reports of scores of the outcomes of
certain athletic events, as the basis for illegal
sports-betting operations. Only the bookies are
criminally prosecuted for such gambling activity. The
newspapers -- their editors, publishers, and reporters
included -- are never criminally prosecuted for the
illegal activities of those who thus use the published
sports reports.

In nearly every lending library in the country,
there are one or more photocopying machines sitting in
the midst of large number of books, many of which are
copyrighted. Librarians surely understand that a
certain number of people who make photocopies on those
machines are copying *copyrighted* material, perhaps in
violation of the copyright laws. There does not appear
to be a criminal prosecution of any such librarians for
"aiding" or "facilitating" breaches of the copyright
laws.

The owner or manager of a bookstore may not be
criminally prosecuted for the distribution of obscene
material if, in a bookstore carrying a wide variety of
printed materials, a certain quantity of those materials
contain obscene portions. It does not even matter
whether the bookstore owner or manager suspects that
some of the material in the store may contain obscene
matter. It is not his or her legal responsibility to
monitor and censor such materials, according to the
United States Supreme Court. (_Smith v. California_,
361 U.S. 147 (1959))

Additionally, Letters by David LaMancchia’s lawyer

Interesting...

well it's either my firewall or the JPG/samples have been taken out....?

I have done a little research and found that any movie production company "blah blah movies is copyrighted" thus they own all the copyrights and therefore they can "invade" any website displaying "illegal pictures" of that particular movie. Futhermore now the FBI can remotevly take over your machine and control it from a satalite (new PCs i suppose) However the samples where indeed getting a little out of hand maybe that's why they said "that's enough" and contact you. I do not work for them nor do i have any affiliation with them. What google does is index sites and it picks them up from other URLs thefore that is really nothing they can do but contact those particular sites which are hosting that particular contenet personally.


Question:


What if you where to host those images/samples in another country where piracy laws does not exist or is for private use, and if you where to make everyone log in and register there would be nothing they can do about it since you are using this site as private usage, of course that might piss some people off.

Anyways if you have an idea or maybe you could move vcdquality to another country where piracy laws does not exist. If so what country would that be ? a host in Finland ?

or some island near Central America ??

Interesting...

well it's either my firewall or the JPG/samples have been taken out....?

I have done a little research and found that any movie production company "blah blah movies is copyrighted" thus they own all the copyrights and therefore they can "invade" any website displaying "illegal pictures" of that particular movie. Futhermore now the FBI can remotevly take over your machine and control it from a satalite (new PCs i suppose) However the samples where indeed getting a little out of hand maybe that's why they said "that's enough" and contact you. I do not work for them nor do i have any affiliation with them. What google does is index sites and it picks them up from other URLs thefore that is really nothing they can do but contact those particular sites which are hosting that particular contenet personally.


Question:


What if you where to host those images/samples in another country where piracy laws does not exist or is for private use, and if you where to make everyone log in and register there would be nothing they can do about it since you are using this site as private usage, of course that might piss some people off.

Anyways if you have an idea or maybe you could move vcdquality to another country where piracy laws does not exist. If so what country would that be ? a host in Finland ?

or some island near Central America ??

Or use 1-800-fax-back and send him a shit load of junk fax.

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Originally posted by sirghost
for those that want a cheap fast way of harrassing this guys fax machine...try:

http:\\www.uk-software.com/interfax


:P

mods if ur gonna delete this at least leave me a pm as to why..thx

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